posted 01-07-2001 05:26 PM            

snipped from an online article

"At the end of the Second World War, the United States Government sent Charles Eliot Perkins, a research worker in chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology, to take charge of the vast Farben chemical plants in Germany.

"While there he was told by the German chemists of a scheme which had been worked out by them during the war and adopted by the German General Staff.

"This was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water. In this scheme, sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place.

"Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination by slowly poisoning and narcotising a certain area of the brain and will thus make him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him.

posted 01-07-2001 10:46 PM            

"Both the Germans and the Russians added sodium fluoride to the drinking water of prisoners of war to make them stupid and docile."

posted 01-08-2001 01:14 AM            

Thermit did a study of posters when Jay Reynolds posted here to show the difference between Jay's and Thermit's....only debunkers were included in this study...

The point was that Jay was talking more than the board owner....and shitting on the floor or something like that (not my words)....

'sucks' you average 12 post a day....

Thermit averages 3.9 a day....

I average 2.1.....

ruffly...bow wow....

intent is clear

posted 01-09-2001 03:38 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by nsasucks:
Bee: my suggestion is to take some time and do research on flouride, flouridation, and sodium flouride. I used to work for the largest mfgr of that crap, and they considered absolutely deadly and toxic. Get online and check it out, you'll either be surprised or you'll attack this post, which is my guess anyways.

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Well, actually, it seems like you are the one who needs to do the research before lashing out at a posting. Could I ask what the name of the company you worked for is? Because sodium fluoride is indeed one of the 3 ways that drinking water is fluoridated. Check out the American Water Works Association (AWWA) fact sheet at http://www.awwa.org/pressroom/fluoride.htm and the CDC recommendations for how to manage fluoridation systems at http://www.cdc.gov/epo/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00039178.htm (the info in this site is quite a ways down in the document) The AWWA is the industry organization which sets the recommended procedures and standards which are followed by the operators of drinking water systems.

And anything is toxic in sufficient amounts. The dose makes the poison. You can even die from drinking too much water. (I can provide specifics if anyone doesn't believe this.)

posted 01-12-2001 01:52 AM            

Do some real research. It is not that hard to do. After 40 or so hours, maybe you will start to see the truth. I just hope you are not too brainwashed to recognize the truth when you see it.........

Please read the entire document, it is very important!
http://www.trunkerton.fsnet.co.uk/fluoride_fantasies.htm

"...ll surveys both here and in Western Europe show that the reduction in (dental) caries over the past 20 years is just as great in unfluoridated as in fluoridated communities."

John R. Lee, MD.

Even "...the Journal of the American Dental Association (states) that 'the current reported decline in caries in the US and other Western industrialised countries has been observed in both fluoridated and non-fluoridated communities, with percentage reductions in each community apparently the same."

Chemical & Engineering News, August 1, 1988.

A computer analysis of the data from the largest dental survey ever done - of nearly 40,000 school children - by the National Institutes of Dental Research revealed no correlation between tooth decay and fluoridation. In fact, many of the non-fluoridated cities had better tooth decay rates than fluoridated cities. The city with the lowest rate of tooth decay was not fluoridated. Of the three with the highest rate of decay, two were partially fluoridated.

The Missouri State Bureau of Dental Health "had conducted a survey of more than 6,500 lifelong resident second- and sixth-grade children in various parts of Missouri and found that overall.. 'there were no significant differences between children drinking optimally fluoridated water and children drinking suboptimally fluoridated water."

Albert W. Burgstahler, PhD., Professor of Chemistry, University of Kansas

"...school districts reporting the highest caries-free rates, were totally unfluoridated. How does one explain this?"

A.S.Gray DDS., Journal of the Canadian Dental Association, no.10,1987.

INFANT MORTALITY RATES ARE HIGHEST IN FLUORIDATED CITIES

Figures released by the National Centre for Health Statistics reveal that infant mortality is a big problem in the United States. This data shows that the ten cities with the worst rate of infant mortality have all been artificially fluoridated at least 17 years or longer!

After the first full year of fluoridation Kansas city, Missouri's infant mortality increased 13%.

The Kansas City Star, November 21, 1982.

After the fifth year of fluoridation in Kansas City, infant mortality increased 36%

The Kansas City Star, February 26, 1987

posted 01-12-2001 02:59 AM            

the last statement brent is a little condescending...don't you think...

I know some ground water already has flouride in it.... also I personally refrain from adding flouride to my diet...

The real question is why is this pushed, when the facts in many studies show it is not terribly harmful in small doses, but the return in adding it is not much benefit in prevention of cavities when added to water supplies, certainly no benefit in adults .....the effort of of municipalities to add flouride to the water, is curious...

Do dentists have union's ?

posted 01-12-2001 03:16 PM            

If you go to nofluoride.com this is a great starting point for readin up on this issue.

The link posted above doesn't work for some reason, but if you type it in it works.

Sorry for my attitude earlier.

Please do some reading, you will be amazed at what you learn.

Brent

posted 01-13-2001 12:22 AM            

Pulled up some old links and found this....

I guess I was wrong in the assumption that I don't have flouride in my diet...

1 cup tea-0.24-1.008mg
1 oz canned fish(with bones)- 1.136 mg
1 cup cooked kale- 0.205mg
1 cup cooked spinach- 0.180mg
1 apple- 0.093mg
1 cup milk- 0.074mg

Ack !!!

The optimum amount of fluoride is said to be
around 1 ppm (parts per million). ppm equals
mg per litre ie. at 1ppm one would drink 1 mg
of fluoride in 1 litre of water.

I will revise my statements...to say that I do not use flouride in toothpaste or water :/

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