|
Author
|
|
Topic: Woven Trails | Topic page views:
|
|
Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000
|
posted 01-17-2001 08:39 PM
   
Pictures by Phil, North Wisconsin
|
elvis lives
Senior Member
Pismo Beach, California
143 posts, Sep 2000
|
posted 01-17-2001 11:16 PM
Thermit....Phil took some great contrail pictures there. So what else is new?
|
WiseQuakker
Senior Member
Mt. Vernon, WA, USA
141 posts, Aug 2000
|
posted 01-18-2001 05:24 AM
C’mon — Those things were so low they almost clipped the telephone wires...... An awful lot of air traffic for northern Wisconsin......------------------
By itself, science tells us what should be. Only tempered with clinical observation and common sense, does it tell us what is......
|
BEE
Senior Member
23 posts, Dec 2000
|
posted 01-18-2001 10:34 AM
You've got to be kidding that you think those contrails were anywhere near that telephone wire!!! I've got a great picture at home that shows a friend of mine in the back of a pick-up holding his hand up with the moon in his hand. Does that mean the moon suddenly got closer to the Earth? I suggest reading a book about perspective and optical illusions.
|
Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000
|
posted 01-18-2001 11:33 AM
I must concur with Bee, these trail are quite high, probably over 30,000 ft.As an interesting note, these barrel-roll trails have also been reported in Lakeside, MT. Can any aircraft experts testify as to what planes would be able to perform this weaving maneuver? It seems this beyond the abilities of a tanker plane, true?
|
Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
|
posted 01-18-2001 03:06 PM
I have seen these type of chemtrails here in the Okanagan Valley and assumed that the way these DNA-type (spiralling) chemtrails looked was due to their composition, not how the plane moved. But, who knows???
|
LTC8K6
35 HOTEL / MOLE / LAME MORON
Tar Heel State
267 posts, Oct 2000
|
posted 01-18-2001 07:29 PM
Rotor. Horizontal rolling tube of turbulent air. You can definitely get a corkscrew contrail without doing a barrel roll. The 2 contrails twisting together is a good indication of a rotor effect.Bored fighter pilots?
|
LTC8K6
35 HOTEL / MOLE / LAME MORON
Tar Heel State
267 posts, Oct 2000
|
posted 01-18-2001 07:39 PM
I have also heard that propwash can cause this effect. Helicity- A property of a moving fluid which represents the potential for helical flow (i.e. flow which follows the pattern of a corkscrew) to evolve. Helicity is proportional to the strength of the flow, the amount of vertical wind shear, and the amount of turning in the flow (i.e. vorticity).
|
LTC8K6
35 HOTEL / MOLE / LAME MORON
Tar Heel State
267 posts, Oct 2000
|
posted 01-18-2001 08:37 PM
http://www.mmopa.com/Europe.asp "And so it was we were all in the air by 8:00 am, bound for our first stop at Narsarsuaq, Greenland, 679 nautical miles from The Goose. "Andre, your airplane is giving off a contrail!" was heard over the air-to-air frequency. Yes it is true, a Malibu gives off a beautiful contrail which emanates from both exhausts and is twisted into a perfect corkscrew from the propeller wake. Since we were able to see each other in flight during much of the first leg, a Malibu contrail was quite a spectacular and unexpected treat.
Throughout most of the flight, the commercial airlines took particular interest in our group of five. Most would ask if we were ferry pilots for Piper and they thought it was incredible that we would venture such an expedition in single engine aircraft. One Delta captain wanted to meet us for a drink in a London pub and another Boeing 767 pilot responded "Cool Man!" when he heard what we were flying."
|
Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000
|
posted 01-18-2001 09:14 PM
Helicity and Rotor Effect are large scale rotational effects, they don't apply to this localized twisting, with 2 twisted together and 1 twisted on itself. Propwash isn't a factor either since these are jets. There they go... 
|
LTC8K6
35 HOTEL / MOLE / LAME MORON
Tar Heel State
267 posts, Oct 2000
|
posted 01-18-2001 09:49 PM
How did 3 become four, and why couldn't they be C-130's? This effect can be caused by those upturned winglets on the ends of the wings of newer airplanes as well. Can't think of their name offhand. For All I know it could even have been an airshow miles away from the photog. Or it could be military fighter jets practicing jinking maneuvers to avoid SAMS. Since the planes are not in the photos, I would be loathe to connect the 4 distant planes with the 3 twisty contrails. Notice the vastly different background colors. Not that I'm suspicious, mind you. But I am.I personally experienced small scale rotor effects in Denver, Colorado. There is a great picture around somwhere of a small rotor cloud on the leading edge of a stormfront. At any rate, you'd then have to explain the need for such barrel roll chemtrailing. I'm not even gonna' touch that!
|
mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
|
posted 01-19-2001 01:47 AM
ex plane this Thermit?
my rotor got stuck and i have seen this cloud before i was born
and my great grand daddy had a picture of this before film was invented
or chemtrails screwed the sky
up
|
mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
|
posted 01-19-2001 01:54 AM
its all normal dude
so give it up
i saw these when i was a pup
then i threw up
i got a new brain
and now i know that you chemtrail believers
are quite insane
|
mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
|
posted 01-19-2001 02:01 AM
i am telling [teller] ing you dude
if you think this is a cloud
you have taken too many qualudesman get with the program these are the international flights
that circl;e BROOKINGS OREGON
and dump fuel
before landind in san~francisco
300 miles away
don't cha know...
|
mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
|
posted 01-19-2001 02:12 AM
listen to that chump sound
put your feet upon the ground
and reel in
the ltc8kgb35horetel/mole
(from the tar heeled state)
and take a deep breath that suck as he?
sees fit to ply your site
with impunity
and post pictures of world war two
what a DUDE
who posts so freely
|
mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
|
posted 01-19-2001 02:23 AM
a liniare eqasion of "normal contrail"
you want to breath
and for this want it assails
the EPA sees no iniquitity
eat gene spliced corn mash
and monsanto air@TM
go run and peayour DNA is theirs you see
registared and patened
have you got a licence
to be?
|
LTC8K6
35 HOTEL / MOLE / LAME MORON
Tar Heel State
267 posts, Oct 2000
|
posted 01-19-2001 05:58 AM
Dunsmuir. I5. Prepass.
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum9/HTML/000039.html 'nuff said.
|
mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
|
posted 01-20-2001 10:26 PM
bombarded and mislayed
a name of numbers seeks to dis~play
picking apart putting words in your mouth
singing fears and telling stories
in your ears
afraid trembleing
scurrying
worryied
bout a hiway bypass
thinking it may make
me pass out
combined with personal degrade
laid at my door
|
mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
|
posted 01-20-2001 10:37 PM
tankers by the score roll by
on yonder hiway
yet unmarked they ply their tradeas silver jets spray
and un named by the FAA
they circle
they X, Y and Z
they fly towards eachother they puck out muck
they cast dispersion
and sickness upon the land they sink the sky into dark despare
clouding and choking the air twingling all who care
grounding every effort
sucking up, confuserating, manipulating
master~baiting every thing good and true fainting back and pretending to be confused
striking out and being lude
|
mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
|
posted 01-20-2001 10:40 PM
caragorically con~strued
taken off to the limits
|
mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
|
posted 01-20-2001 10:51 PM
such a good truck down your street ply
such a good blue sky its cargo
fly
embar ass your self dude
i can fly quite naked
and survive buttit will be a trial for you
|
mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
|
posted 01-20-2001 10:55 PM
my reply to you tirade is http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailschemtrails.showMessage?topicID=919.topic
|
marcinko
Senior Member
orlando, fl, usa
31 posts, Jan 2001
|
posted 01-22-2001 12:03 AM
hey mark sky,reference your first photo in this thread, what aircraft do you think could perform the maneouvers required to make that pattern? obviously there isnt one. those patterns were not mad by an aircraft (maybe a UFO). they were made by winds d.m.
|
speakingwind
New Member
22 posts, Jan 2001
|
posted 01-22-2001 08:24 PM
OR.....Maybe an easier explanation is that they're !!!!!!CHEMTRAILS!!!!! (EVER THINK OF THAT??) you nimrod
|
marcinko
Senior Member
orlando, fl, usa
31 posts, Jan 2001
|
posted 01-22-2001 09:00 PM
speaking wind,nice post. humerous but pointless. do you want to explain why a chemtrail would take the form seen in the first photo? you know, i think that all chemical compounds are still subject to the same laws of physics. please explain why the "chemtrail" chemical being sprayed would spiral like this, but your everyday wator vapor would not. please respond with more than "nimrod" if you can d.m.
|
Chemtrail Central Forum
UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! 
This topic is 3 pages long: 1 2 3 
