posted 02-05-2001 11:23 AM            

His defamation lawsuit was settled to his satisfaction and his son, who apparently was molested by a teacher, remains HIV-free.

All good news.

Art made a point of reminding them that when he was on the program last year promoting his book, "The Coming Global Super Storm" he was chided for not being a professional meteorologist. Art then proceeded to show them the cover of the recent US News & World Report with a cover article, "Scary Weather".

So a few weeks ago we have Edward Teller on the CBS Evening News saying we should begin spraying the atmosphere "as soon as possible". And now this national magazine "fear mongering" (or is it a reality check?).

In any case, if you think these pronouncements are not with full direction and approval you're delusional. There is a major conditioning program underway and you can expect it to become more intense. Just wait for this Spring's northern latitude ozone readings.

And speaking of "Scary Weather", for whatever purpose they are intended, ChemTrails are definitely affecting our weather...how could they not?

What we need is a real expert on the subject to come forward and explain what is happening. Someone with impeccable credentials, a true scientist, of strong moral fiber.

Whatever happened to the "esteemed" Dr. Patrick Minnis, famed contrail researcher at NASA? Surely he could shed some light on this subject. Given the public's widespead concern about anomolous trails in our skies, shouldn't we expect to hear from "The Best and The Brightest?"

posted 02-05-2001 06:56 PM            

I'm grateful to Art for introducing me to the fact of chemtrails, and to the fact of the existence of aliens: both of which were miserably difficult concepts to accept. I saw my first real live obvious chemtrails the very day after hearing William Thomas's first program. I was furious, but at least I knew what they were.

I went far more relunctantly, kicking and screaming, insofar as the reality of aliens is concerned. I don't blame people one bit for feeling the need to reject this wretched fact out of hand. Accepting it has ramifications which are permanently unsettling. (Please don't bother trying to tell me, if you believe it, how spiritual these little grey nazis are. You know- the ones who molest, abduct, experiment and successfully assert powerful brainwashing and mind-controls on us.) But at least by the time I was actually obliged to register the presence of a UFO in broad daylight, I didn't die of a heart attack on the spot. Thanks to being prepared for the possibility.

What part Art Bell plays in information filtering out to the public is a very interesting question. Between 20 and 30 million people will be tuning in tonight and hearing Peter Davenport report the latest UFO encounters. It's a significant portion of the population, especially when we consider that for every one who stays up listening, several more will be told about the show the next day. He is definitely having a palpable effect on mass consciousness, and this is surely factored into secret and semi-secret levels of planning. For example, he said himself "I have no idea whether or not I am being used to disseminate disinformation. I could be." And he could be used to disseminate truth too. My personal take is that both of these opposite activities happen all the time on his program.

posted 02-07-2001 11:17 PM            

.....(just to mention some that have been in the headlines.)

Gunderson has sort of been an underdog in all of them, in opposition to the eventual outcomes of those cases, for the most part, the man who knows what the media will not or cannot expose.

My guess is that the bad guys found a way to try to make problems for Bell and Gunderson at the same time, but it looks like they've survived whatever was planned for them?

I think I prefer Jeff Rense, but sorry for whatever problems Bell and son have been through. Gunderson has grown used to it, I guess.

posted 05-01-2001 11:25 AM            

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Franklin Satanic Cult/MK-Ultra Sex/Drug Ring http://www.iahf.com/usa/20000629.html

To: IAHF LIST
From: John Hammell
Subject: Whistleblowers Need Your Help: Franklin Satanic Cult/MK Ultra Sex Drug Ring
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:28:08 -0400

IAHF List: Please: mass forward the information below my comments! Your help is
needed to protect the lives of former FBI agent Ted Gunderson, Brice Taylor, and a
large number of other whistleblowers who are trying to expose satanism/drug smuggling/the CIA's MK Ultra Mind Control Program --- crimes of high treason and crimes against humanity. The whistleblowers need for you to tell everyone you know about this the information below. Only through the assistance of the grass roots will they have a chance to avoid being snuffed for what they are trying so hard here to expose.

Slightly over a year ago I was forced to leave S.Florida for being a whistleblower
myself. My efforts to expose the Pharma Cartel over the Codex vitamin issue pose a
huge threat to some very powerful people and I too am in Gunderson's situation. One morning at sunrise I was awakened by a black, totally unmarked helicopter hovering directly over my house. It was down so low the whole house shook, and the windows rattled so hard I thought they'd break. It stayed over my house for a full half hour. It was down so low I could see the faces of the two pilots. Clearly they were trying to scare the hell out of me.They might have been doing an infrared scan on my house for metallic objects, I'm not sure. I moved. They could easily find me and kill me right here where I've moved to but it wouldn't be as easy as when I was around Miami.

At the Codex meeting in Berlin, just days before the meeting, and our counter meeting
and demonstration,German TV did a piece which attacked Matthias Rath in an effort
to assassinate his character due to his efforts to expose Codex. He had bodyguards
everywhere he went in Berlin. He had to. I'm sure the drug cartel probably had someone videotape all of us who were in Berlin demonstrating in an effort to identify
all of us, and Dr.Rath had a lot of courage to hold his demonstration. http://www.rath.nl

I have a body guard too. Jesus Christ, and He can be your guide to if you just ask Him
into your heart.

We oppose secret combinations of men, acting clandestinely, and the truth is not in them. The Codex vitamin war is a war between forces of light and forces of darkness.
There is no justice on this earth, but after we die, there is a Judge who can't be
bought, and who sees EVERYTHING. All of us will be judged. After you read the information below, forward it to more people, and please start praying harder than you ever had in your life, and if you don't pray, you'd really better strongly consider
starting because what is discussed below is no joke and its not the "X files" its all too real, and its happening right now, today in America and all over the world.

Private investigator Ted L. Gunderson was dragged kicking and screaming into the
netherworld of Satanism, child kidnapping, drug smuggling and other corruption.

Before he retired in 1979, Gunderson was the FBI Special Agent in Charge (SAC) in Los Angeles. He headed the FBI office, where he had 800 people under him and a yearly budget of over US$24 million. Since then, Gunderson's role as a private investigator and security consultant has led him to expose CIA drug dealing, child kidnapping and trafficking, mind control, and satanic murder-for-hire groups. He has also investigated many high-profile cases like the Dr Jeffrey McDonald case, the McMartin Preschool case, Nebraska's Franklin Cover-up case, the Oklahoma City Bombing case, the Inslaw/Octopus case, and many other real-life criminal conspiracies.

"Shortly after my retirement, I was asked to investigate the Jeffrey R. McDonald case
as a private investigator," said Gunderson in a recent interview. "He's a doctor who
was convicted of murdering his wife and two children at Fort Bragg, North Carolina on
February 17, 1970. I put in about 2,000 hours on the case. He had been convicted and
sentenced to three consecutive life sentences. Much to my surprise, the evidence
that I read, the information I developed...I've established beyond any question of a doubt that this man is absolutely innocent."

Jerry Allen Potter, author of Fatal Justice, a powerful point-by-point refutation of Joe
McGinnis's cover-up book, Fatal Vision, agrees. His book exposes McGinnis's
best-seller as pure fiction.

Gunderson continued: "I obtained a signed confession from Helena Stokely, the girl in
the floppy hat, for those who are familiar with the case. She said Dr McDonald did not
commit these crimes. They were committed, she said '...by my satanic cult group. It
was my initiation into the cult that night,' she said."

After a while, Gunderson realised that the McDonald case was a classic case of US
Government crime and cover-up.

"She gave me detailed information about movements within the house. She told me
she attempted to ride a rocking horse in the child's bedroom that night, but she
couldn't ride it because the spring was broken. The only way she could have known
that was to have been there that night.

"I submitted an 1100-plus page report in March 1981 to Judge William Webster, who w
as then the head of the FBI, with a personal letter to him and to the US Department of
Justice. Much to my surprise, my 19 witnesses including Helena Stokely started
calling me and telling me, 'Hey Ted, they're trying to get me to recant.' And I'm telling
myself, 'That isn't the responsibility of the FBI. The FBI is supposed to gather
information, not destroy it.' And that was my first clue that we had a serious problem
in that case and in the other cases I handled. I noticed in each instance that evidence was destroyed, lost, stolen; that there were strong indications of corruption.

"So I asked myself, 'What's going on here?' And over the years I started gathering
materials. Up until about two years ago, I kept saying, 'There's a loose-knit network
operating in this country, involving drugs, pedophilia, prostitution, corruption, etc.

From my research, I'm convinced it's much more serious. It's much more than a
loose-knit network. It is a conspiracy. And you know how the media goes after you when you use that 'c'-word. And I'm going to prove it to you. By the way, this conspiracy involves pornography, drugs, pedophilia and organised child kidnapping.

"My 'missing children' lecture documents that the Finders, an organisation in
Washington, DC, is a CIA front," said Gunderson. "It's a covert operation involved in international trafficking of children."

He was referring to a US Customs Service report which states that the Finders case
is to be closed because it is "an internal CIA matter".

Gunderson added: "These people - the satanic movement in the world - have set up
preschools for the purpose of getting their hands on our children. The parents drop
them off at nine in the morning and pick them up at night."

Far-fetched? Think again. In The Law Is For All, Aleister Crowley writes:
"Moreover, the Beast 666 [Crowley's reference to himself] adviseth that all children shall be accustomed from infancy to witness every type of sexual act, as also the process of birth, lest falsehood fog and mystery stupefy their minds whose error else
might thwart and misdirect the growth of their subconscious system of self-symbolism."

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posted 05-02-2001 12:25 AM            

Okay, who here is a member of a race of beings that has mastered interstellar travel? Now...don't be shy...No one?

Okay... who here can claim to be part of a race of beings that drops nuclear weapons on it's own cities? Ahh...I see...

Now, if I am not mistaken, the Nazi party was conceived by and comprised of human beings. Those weren't alien monsters running the death camps, 'ya know. All to human I'm afraid.

It seems to me that before we start characterizing an entire species as "nazis' we better take a close, hard look at ourselves.

By way of comparison, how would you characterize the human race? Benevolent or pathologically destructive?

The answer is right over you heads and in the air you breathe.

posted 05-02-2001 05:37 PM            

I agree with you, I don't think greys are responsible for the Nazi atrocities that have been perpetrated on human beings even as we speak either. I CAN believe that it's more disinfo to steer focus away from the human nazis who ARE doing all of these things. Though I do believe, on a spiritual level (and maybe an extra-terrestrial level if you see it that way) that there are other influences at work too. That takes me back to "The Gods of Eden" which I think is very worth considering. Greys may be a very small part of the picture as far as E.T.'s go. I doubt if they're connected to the human nazis we have here, though TNPTS would like us to think they are. It might be important to them for us to think they are in control of everything... even aliens! That even though we may have touched on some truth, we are in a hopeless situation.

So, as far at the Art Bell vs. Ted Gunderson/radio station lawsuit, If we put 2 & 2 together, I think we can picture a scenario in which the Nazi Powers That Suck (TNPTS?), decided to unleash one or more of their pedophiles to target Art Bells son. One of the conditions of his release would be that Art Bell would agree to a lawsuit against Ted Gunderson, a major thorn in the side of the nazis. This would help to create more doubt in the minds of all of us who are trying to make sense of the secret history happening all around us so that both Ted Gunderson AND Art Bell would lose credibility among their supporters!

In addition, it may be that the Nazis have also commandeered Art Bells radio show with a continued threat against Bells son in order to supress some stories he may have covered and possibly to also promote some disinfo that might further their agenda? Nazis/CIA are well-known for taking over networks, magazines newspapers via assassination, blackmail, murder if it's in their own interests.