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Topic: Does chemtrail clouding steer weather systems? | Topic page views:
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Dick Eastman
Senior Member
Yakima, Washington, USA 33 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 02-12-2001 11:25 PM
In an envrionment of government secrecy the citizen must use the methods of science to uncover abuse and hold officials accountable.Sufficient evidence has accumulated to justify the suspicion that cloud-generation technologies are being used to redirect, attenuate and intensify the natural course of meteorological and oceanographical events by changing lower-atmosphere pressure (air density)-- what the public is begining to call clandestine weather modification. An ezboard web resource for interdisciplinary investigation of the possibility of clandestine weather modification has just been created. People are invited to post anything there which they deem relevant to 1) interpreting the observations and documents that have occasioned the CWM explanation; 2) evaluating soundness of the science that is being attributed to CWM; or 3) refuting or supporting the necessary implications of CWM if it is taking place. The following essay presents one first-hand observer's grounds for suspicion that chemtrails are clandestine weather modification in action. Dick Eastman --------------------- Numerous worldwide "chemtrail" reports ( for examples, see www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm, www.chemtrailcentral.com , and www.rense.com ) support no other explanation than that large-scale operations are underway that are modifying the atmosphere with "treatment" that only the most causal or short-term observer might mistake for the ordinary vapor-trail condensation of jet aircraft or natural cloud cover. And when concerned citizens bring this abnormality, so obviously filling the sky, to the attention of appropriate authorities, including the Environmental Protection Agency -- a bureaucracy often so direct and aggressive in investigating all leads on infractions of air-quality regulations -- we quickly learn that our government is neither anxious to impound airplanes and levy fines, nor willing to ease growing public confusion and fear concerning what is being done to our atmosphere and why. The time has come to subject the following as-yet-unrefuted but also under-tested thesis to every possible criticism and test that disinterested research can bring to bear. The Clandestine Weather Modification Thesis: Since at least 1992 major weather events have been shaped by the application of technologies that alternately heat or cool precise parcels of the lower atmosphere, thereby decreasing or increasing, respectively, the density of those parcels, in order to alter the pressure-system dynamics that otherwise would naturally obtain; this being a means of governing the movement of heat and moisture within the atmosphere, but also of redirecting wind-pushed currents of warm or cool water near the surface of the seas -- the interaction of marine and atmospheric events both monitored and anticipated by real-time sensors, signal-processing, and intervention hardware. Let us consider the two distinct sets of technologies that give Clandestine Weather Modification its directive "push" and "pull" capabilities, technologies involving the generation of cloud, using aircraft, and the dissipation of cloud, using remote high- energy radio-energy generating stations respectively. How "Chemtrail" Cloud "Pushes" Weather Systems If CWM is real, then the non-dissipating cloud-cover-creating contrails/chemtrails terrifying the observant are most-likely being deployed to reduce the amount of solar energy reaching precisely determined patches of the earth's survace, land or ocean, in order to effect lower-than-otherwise surface temperatures and, concomitantly, higher-than-otherwise barometric pressure in the troposphere, or lower atmosphere, immediately above the patch. (Consider a pan on a stove with water heated a-little-short of the boiling point. The heat at the bottom of the pan sets up convection currents,and thus a circulating "weather" system is created in the fluid medium. But if only half of the pan's bottom surface is heated, the pattern of circulation will change in complex, but not wholly chaotic (unpredictable) ways. It is to effect this kind of dynamic pattern change that carefully calculated loci of chemtrailed cloud sunblock are introduced in the thermally driven atmosphere. In this way chemtrailing redirects air-current flows, speeds or slows them, or detains them in places so the air can gain or loose heat and moisture. And when chemtrailing of cloud is done over the sea, the same principle results in a change in the winds that push surface waters --a result that puts the immense heat-energy reservoir of the tropical seas at the disposal of the weather modifiers, giving them the capability of steering great parcels of warm or cooler sea water from one geographical region to another -- an action fertile in catastrophic consequences of terrifying variety. How Applied Radio Physics "Pulls" Weather Systems A second meteorological mystery that the clandestine weather modification thesis explains is the sudden -- almost instantaneous-- disappearance of cloud before the eyes of amazed onlookers. This feat is the work of a second technology, one that yields an effect the opposite of that caused by chemtrailing, i.e, it eliminates high-altitude cloud in order to allow more of the sun's radiant energy to warm a targeted patch of earth surface more than would occur without this intervention. This cloud-busting- effected heating of patches of surface decreases the density of the air immediately above the patch, causing that air to rise, thereby creating a low-pressure cell that will pull in (as wind) higher-pressure air adjacent to the patch. (This is like adding extra heat to just one small spot on the bottom of a pan of water to affect convection patterning. To gain a better grasp of the physics involved, get a wide cake pan, two or three candles, some liquid food coloring and some candle holders. Place the pan of water over an arrangement of lit candles, then drop in some of the food coloring so that you can follow the circulation of water in the fluid "atmosphere." Change the relative locations of the candle-heated spots and see how the convective flow patterns change.) Few meteorologists are familiar with the story of Dr. Florence W. van Straten and her discovery of "cloud breaking." Differential heating of parcels of air to quickly dissipate natural cloud accumulation is a process pioneered in the late 1940's by Dr. van Straten, then a Navy meteorologist. Van Straten hit upon the idea of using blowing carbon black (i.e., soot) into the atmosphere through a section of stovepipe sticking out the opened door of modified Superconstellation "Hurricane Hunter." Carbon black admits almost no light and is more than 99 percent efficient in capturing every bit of light energy falling upon it.Van Straten knew that theoretically "a pound of very finely divided carbon scattered in the bright sunshine picks up enough energy each minute to raise the temperature of eleven tons of water from the freezing point to the boiling point." And even within a cloud, there is still enough light reflected from water droplets and hitting the carbon particles from all sides to heat the cloud sufficiently to undo vapor condensation. In the very first experiment, when a one-pound dose of carbon was ejected into a cloud formation growing from a base of about 2,500 to a top at about 11,000 feet ("with crisp and sharp edges and turrets looking like boiling cauldrons, stretching upward another thousand feet or so") the carbon took a few minutes to warm, but then the results became dramatic, as recorded from several photo-reconnaissance planes monitoring the experiment. Multiple motion pictures from different altitudes show "that after several minutes during which nothing happened, the cloud suddenly spurted upward from a point just above our flight level. A tunnel formed where we had flown though the cloud, opening and widening rapidly until the cloud was sliced in two. The upper section darted up several thousand feet, becoming very wispy and transparent. Moments after its push upwards, it thinned out and was gone. Almost simultaneously, the bottom half of the cloud turned very dark and, as though a giant had wiped a sponge over a slate, it, too, disappeared. The observers were unanimous in testifying that there was nothing gradual about the process. 'Now you see it. Now you don,t,' the pilot of a jet plane flying toward the cloud reported." So regardless of its presence or absence in current journals, technology for removal of sun-blocking atmospheric cloud by increasing its interior temperature has been established by the most unassailable criterion; it has been done. (Perhaps not irrelevant is the fact that van Straten was immediately reassigned and her project terminated when the first progress report of this revolutionary experiment (including even more impressive replications) reached the Pentagon; "I was forced to return to Washington because I was needed (?) and the planes were needed elsewhere... (yet) I was sure I had a tool for performing significant work in weather modification." (Note: The question mark in the preceding sentence is van Straten's.) Source: Florence W. van Straten, Weather or Not, (New York: Dodd & Mead, 1966), chapter 12, "Making and Breaking Clouds." Clandestine Weather Modification of course does not rely on broadcasting soot to heat cloud. Advanced radio physics has yielded a technology that permits high-frequency high-energy waves to be projected to the ionosphere which in turn serves to reflect and focus excited (heated) electrons and ions onto 30-mile-diameter targets thousands of miles from the transmission point. This means of heating objects from a distance gives CWM its weather-system "pull" in two ways: 1) By heating cloud enough for cloud dissipation to occur, thereby permitting more of the sun's radiation to reach and heat targeted earth-surface patches; and 2) By heating those land and sea-surface patches (and maybe the molecules and ions of the unclouded lower atmosphere itself) directly with high-energy particle streams focused down through an already cloudless upper atmosphere. (Note: this second technique requires much more transmission energy to achieve a given amount of CWM pull, as it does not rely on the sun to do the additional "the heavy lifting." (It should also be remarked that the vast amounts of electrical power this techology requires can, in fact, easily be supplied in abundance by tapping natural gas at oil wells of Alaska's North Slope. In fact,Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency has long held a patent that includes the design of a 40-mile-square transmitter for ionospheric bombardment utilizing that very source. The problem of signal processing. Data collection, data processing, and the faster-than-real-time modeling-for-prediction of nonlinear dynamical systems (where small changes in initial conditions can have incalculably divergent effects if the "corrective interventions cannot be calculated and applied fast enough are not a problem for CWM given present known scientific capabilities. Often presented as insurmountable obstacles for weather modification, the barriers imposed by tendencies toward fundamental unpredictabilty in systems of organized complexity only exist if one is attempting to change weather too far in the future using only one single intervention applied at time t = 0. Clandestine weather modification, in order to work at all, i.e., in order to beat the tendency of nonlinear dynamic systems to chaotic pattern divergence, must utilize continuous feedback and correction, and this is exactly what existing weather monitoring instrumentalities and high-speed computers and software have been capable of doing at least since 1992. Sociological, Political and Economic Considerations People in authority within the United States Government and various powerful non-governmental organizations (NGOs) during the course of World War II and the Cold War have gained managerial control over secret, originally defense-related applied technologies, including -- as the increasingly complete historical record now shows -- technologies that afford practical control of discrete weather events --as the experience of Florence W. van Straten and the fate of the great weather-modification breakthrough -- what should have been the triumph of her career -- described above, vividly demonstrates.
Unfortunately it is in the nature of secrecy in organizations that those bureaucrats and those CEO's of NGOs who control events through officially secret means, soon come under strong temptation to employ their clandestine power to affect economic markets for the benefit of their own, i.e., for the people who enjoy the privilege of privately networking "inside" systems of governance, people accountable to no one but themselves. It is for such as these that the existence of a secret defense technology for controlling weather would present a great "moral hazzard," a temptation to help one's family and friends to make a lot of money from exclusive knowledge and control of future weather events. Weather is the most powerful and volatile variable in the human food-supply system, and as a consequence of this, in the fluctuations of the commodities and futures markets worldwide. Weather disasters involve billions of dollars in emergency funds, recovery loans, and reconstruction investment. Insurance companies are depleted of capital, marginalizing them as competition for other big players in the financial markets --cut in their supply of loanable funds amounting billions worldwide in the course of the super-weather-disaster- ridden 1990's. Nor should we overlook the suspicious new "weather derivative" created in recent years, a financial instrument that permits big finance to package and sell risk-management "bets" on what buyers assume to be crap-shoot "acts of God" or of randomly bridled and unbridled "nature," never suspecting that the "game" has been loaded by clandestine weather modification. (British financiers developed the first publically offered weather derivatives, by the way.) And finally there is the obvious contingency that giant Wall Street capitalized agribusiness is able to buy up thousands of acres of small family farms and Western ranches following economic distress and foreclosure of securitized first and second mortgages, when crops fail too many years in a row due to drought, flood, or even merely unseasonable "normal" weather onsets. In all of the above one should keep in mind the economic reality that, in an economic disaster, assets are not destroyed, they merely change hands. Bad weather ruins crops, but usually leaves the future usefulness of the land unaffected. What a hurricane destroys in one decade -- temporarily depressing real estate values, may, ten years later, be the jungle-lush site of multi-billion-dollar up-scale resorts owned by a consortium of global investors. In short, if one looks for a "bottom-line" incentive that would motivate development of a CWM system that can simultaneously cover larges fractions of continental and ocean surface with chemtrailed cloud and can utilize 40-square-mile transmitters that suck up tons of North Shore gas volume to bounce high energy off the ionosphere, be aware: more-than- ample economic stimulus exists to make it all worth while. There you have it -- the bare-bones CWM thesis. CALL FOR PAPERS With the help of any who wish to collaborate with me, I have launched an ezboard community named " bclandestineweathermodification " in order to gather in one place documents that people deem relevant to sounding the issue of clandestine weather modification. I hope that numbers of readers here will consider contributing to this permanent search-engine-locatable ezboard site. (So far all I have done is "plant the research flag." Right now you can leave your information in organized subject-matter pigeon holes for others to consult.) If you are registered for ezboard go to this URL web address: http://pub51.ezboard.com/bclandestineweathermodification To register to use the ezboard go to http://www.ezboeard.com/intl/aenglish/index/html Get your password and then fill in the "go to" box with the board name name bclandestineweathermodification . And when you do join this investigation, may you find the rest of us all discoursing in the spirit of John Stewart Mill when he wrote:
"The only way in which a human being can make some approach to knowing the whole of a subject is by hearing what can be said about it by persons of every variety of opinion and studying all modes in which it can be looked at by every character of mind. No wise man ever acquired wisdom in any mode but this." Dick Eastman Yakima,Washington U.S.A. eastman@wolfenet.com dickeastman@nwinfo.net Every man is responsible to every other man.
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit

Flagstaff, AZ 700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 02-12-2001 11:28 PM
Dick - really glad to see you here!
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sedona
Senior Member
Sedona, AZ 86339 149 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 02-12-2001 11:32 PM
Second the motion: Hi Dick- and welcome. What a good idea you had, to post this here. Great work!
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit

Flagstaff, AZ 700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 02-14-2001 08:10 AM
Everyone - Don't let the "ubiquitous presence" of one Mr. Reynolds on Dick Eastman's message board stop you from going through the wealth of information contained therein. If you're interested in weather modification, this is a good place to go and at least read Dick's material, particulary the material that pertains to the "economic considerations" of deliberate atmospheric manipulation. Very interesting, indeed.
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WiseQuakker
Senior Member

Mt. Vernon, WA, USA 141 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 02-14-2001 10:02 PM
Thanks, Deborah, for solving a little mystery for me. Once again, I’ve been checking the bottom of my shoes for the source of that foul stench when all I’ve really had to do is go over to Dick’s EZBoard......------------------ _____________________________ “When walking amongst predators, never lose awareness of your surroundings. By itself, science tells us what should be. Only tempered with clinical observation and common sense, does it tell us what really is......” — The Quakk
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 02-20-2001 09:48 PM
It's nice to see some intelligence Dick. A good question you ask: does chemtrail seeding steer weather systems? From what observing weather satellite sites, I believe that the composition of the chemtrails enhance the EMP/EMF pulse waves which are generated from underground installations and show up on weather tap as rings. It also seems likely that these pulses are causing earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. On February 14/01 I witnessed symetrical rolled bands with skeletal-like ripples within. The bands slowly drifted from N/W to S/E, but the ripples seemed to be originating from the N/E and was a strange sight to see. Between these scattered rippled bands I saw almost transparent tendrils and ripples and patches of segmented lines stacked like a spinal column. All this never changed shape as it traversed the sky. The formations were perfectly the same for the entire half an hour that I watched. It was unreal. I have never seen clouds NOT change shape as they crossed the sky or look so unreal. Can you say reality modification? Is it live or is it Memorex?
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cydoniaquest
nobody
nowhere 803 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 02-21-2001 03:17 AM
Sounds like you might have seen standing waves Lulu...(who knows what the causes). Standing wave lenticular clouds are common down wind from mountain ranges. They appear to be stationary but have very high speed winds within. It's interesting you mention EMP, because electromagnetic waves, like all forms of waves, can interfere in phase to cause standing waves. In water, we can see freak ocean waves when many wave peaks happen to occur simultaneously with each other. By themselves, they are normal, smaller waves and if they are 180 degrees or so out of phase, they even cancel each other out. But when the situation occurs where all peaks of the waves meet at the same time, you get a standing wave condition of combined energies. Same principal is true with electromagnetic wave amplification....as it is with waves of air in the atmosphere. Maybe there is a connection of phenomenon here. Atmosphere modified by EMP energy (microwave perhaps?)....interesting concept. 
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Thermit
Tech

Houston, TX 2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 02-21-2001 09:23 AM
Submitted by msswv123: -Caveat Lector- To: *OBRL_News From: James DeMeo Subject: OBRL - Environmental warfare, Chossudovsky Please copy and distribute to other interested individuals and groups ********** From: Peter Robbins From: Mannionabc@aol.com The Americans and the Russians have developed capabilities to manipulate the World's climate. Dr. Rosalie Bertell confirms that "US military scientists are working on weather systems as a potential weapon." Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 From: Michel Chossudovsky Climate Change: Washington's New World Order Weapons IT'S NOT ONLY GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS: WASHINGTON'S NEW WORLD ORDER WEAPONS HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRIGGER CLIMATE CHANGE by Michel Chossudovsky Professor of Economics, University of Ottawa, author of The Globalization of Poverty, second edition, Common Courage Press, 2000. The important debate on global warming under UN auspices provides but a partial picture of climate change; in addition to the devastating impacts of greenhouse gas emissions on the ozone layer, the World's climate can now be modified as part of a new generation of sophisticated "non-lethal weapons." Both the Americans and the Russians have developed capabilities to manipulate the World's climate. In the US, the technology is being perfected under the High-frequency Active Aural Research Program (HAARP) as part of the ("Star Wars") Strategic Defence Initiative (SDI). Recent scientific evidence suggests that HAARP is fully operational and has the ability of potentially triggering floods, droughts, hurricanes and earthquakes. From a military standpoint, HAARP is a weapon of mass destruction. Potentially, it constitutes an instrument of conquest capable of selectively destabilising agricultural and ecological systems of entire regions. While there is no evidence that this deadly technology has been used, surely the United Nations should be addressing the issue of "environmental warfare" alongside the debate on the climatic impacts of greenhouse gases. * * * * * * * * * * * Despite a vast body of scientific knowledge, the issue of deliberate climatic manipulations for military use has never been explicitly part of the UN agenda on climate change. Neither the official delegations nor the environmental action groups participating in the Hague Conference on Climate Change (CO6) (November 2000) have raised the broad issue of "weather warfare" or "environmental modification techniques (ENMOD)" as relevant to an understanding of climate change. The clash between official negotiators, environmentalists and American business lobbies has centered on Washington's outright refusal to abide by commitments on carbon dioxide reduction targets under the 1997 Kyoto protocol.1 The impacts of military technologies on the World's climate are not an object of discussion or concern. Narrowly confined to greenhouse gases, the ongoing debate on climate change serves Washington's strategic and defense objectives. "WEATHER WARFARE" World renowned scientist Dr. Rosalie Bertell confirms that "US military scientists are working on weather systems as a potential weapon. The methods include the enhancing of storms and the diverting of vapor rivers in the Earth's atmosphere to produce targeted droughts or floods."2 Already in the 1970s, former National Security advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski had foreseen in his book "Between Two Ages" that: "Technology will make available, to the leaders of major nations, techniques for conducting secret warfare, of which only a bare minimum of the security forces need be appraised... [T]echniques of weather modification could be employed to produce prolonged periods of drought or storm." Marc Filterman, a former French military officer, outlines several types of "unconventional weapons" using radio frequencies. He refers to "weather war," indicating that the U.S. and the Soviet Union had already "mastered the know-how needed to unleash sudden climate changes (hurricanes, drought) in the early 1980s."3 These technologies make it "possible to trigger atmospheric disturbances by using Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) radar [waves]." 4 A simulation study of future defense "scenarios" commissioned for the US Air Force calls for: "US aerospace forces to 'own the weather' by capitalizing on emerging technologies and focusing development of those technologies to war-fighting applications. From enhancing friendly operations or disrupting those of the enemy via small-scale tailoring of natural weather patterns to complete dominance of global communications and counterspace control, weather-modification offers the war fighter a wide-range of possible options to defeat or coerce an adversary... In the United States, weather-modification will likely become a part of national security policy with both domestic and international applications. Our government will pursue such a policy, depending on its interests, at various levels. 5 THE HIGH-FREQUENCY ACTIVE AURAL RESEARCH PROGRAM (HAARP) The High-Frequency Active Aural Research Program (HAARP) based in Gokoma Alaska --jointly managed by the US Air Force and the US Navy-- is part of a new generation of sophisticated weaponry under the US Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI). Operated by the Air Force Research Laboratory's Space Vehicles Directorate, HAARP constitutes a system of powerful antennas capable of creating "controlled local modifications of the ionosphere". Scientist Dr. Nicholas Begich --actively involved in the public campaign against HAARP-- describes HAARP as: "A super-powerful radiowave-beaming technology that lifts areas of the ionosphere [upper layer of the atmosphere] by focusing a beam and heating those areas. Electromagnetic waves then bounce back onto earth and penetrate everything -- living and dead." 6 Dr. Rosalie Bertell depicts HAARP as "a gigantic heater that can cause major disruption in the ionosphere, creating not just holes, but long incisions in the protective layer that keeps deadly radiation from bombarding the planet." 7 MISLEADING PUBLIC OPINION HAARP has been presented to public opinion as a program of scientific and academic research. US military documents seem to suggest, however, that HAARP's main objective is to "exploit the ionosphere for Department of Defense purposes." 8 Without explicitly referring to the HAARP program, a US Air Force study points to the use of "induced ionospheric modifications" as a means of altering weather patterns as well as disrupting enemy communications and radar.9 According to Dr. Rosalie Bertell, HAARP is part of an integrated weapons' system, which has potentially devastating environmental consequences: "It is related to fifty years of intensive and increasingly destructive programs to understand and control the upper atmosphere. It would be rash not to associate HAARP with the space laboratory construction which is separately being planned by the United States. HAARP is an integral part of a long history of space research and development of a deliberate military nature. The military implications of combining these projects is alarming. The ability of the HAARP / Spacelab/ rocket combination to deliver very large amount of energy, comparable to a nuclear bomb, anywhere on earth via laser and particle beams, are frightening. The project is likely to be "sold" to the public as a space shield against incoming weapons, or, for the more gullible, a device for repairing the ozone layer. 10 In addition to weather manipulation, HAARP has a number of related uses: "HAARP could contribute to climate change by intensively bombarding the atmosphere with high-frequency rays... Returning low-frequency waves at high intensity could also affect people's brains, and effects on tectonic movements cannot be ruled out. 11. More generally, HAARP has the ability of modifying the World's electro-magnetic field. It is part of an arsenal of "electronic weapons" which US military researchers consider a "gentler and kinder warfare". 12 WEAPONS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER HAARP is part of the weapons arsenal of the New World Order under the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI). From military command points in the US, entire national economies could potentially be destabilized through climatic manipulations. More importantly, the latter can be implemented without the knowledge of the enemy, at minimal cost and without engaging military personnel and equipment as in a conventional war. The use of HAARP -- if it were to be applied-- could have potentially devastating impacts on the World's climate. Responding to US economic and strategic interests, it could be used to selectively modify climate in different parts of the World resulting in the destabilization of agricultural and ecological systems. It is also worth noting that the US Department of Defense has allocated substantial resources to the development of intelligence and monitoring systems on weather changes. NASA and the Department of Defense's National Imagery and Mapping Agency (NIMA) are working on "imagery for studies of flooding, erosion, land-slide hazards, earthquakes, ecological zones, weather forecasts, and climate change" with data relayed from satellites. 13 POLICY INERTIA OF THE UNITED NATIONS According to the Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) signed at the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro: "States have in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations and the principles of international law, the responsibility to ensure that activities within their jurisdiction or control do not cause damage to the environment of other States or of areas beyond the limits of national jurisdiction." 14 It is also worth recalling that an international Convention ratified by the UN General Assembly in 1997 bans "military or other hostile useof environmental modification techniques having widespread, long-lasting or severe effects."15 Both the US and the Soviet Union were signatories to the Convention. The Convention defines "'environmental modification techniques' as referring to any technique for changing--through the deliberate manipulation of natural processes--the dynamics, composition or structure of the earth, including its biota, lithosphere, hydrosphere and atmosphere or of outer space." 16 Why then did the UN --disregarding the 1977 ENMOD Convention, as well as its own charter, decide to exclude from its agenda climatic changes resulting from military programs? EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT ACKNOWLEDGES IMPACTS OF HAARP In February 1998, responding to a report of Mrs. Maj Britt Theorin --Swedish MEP and longtime peace advocate--, the European Parliament's Committee on Foreign Affairs, Security and Defense Policy held public hearings in Brussels on the HAARP program.17 The Committee's "Motion for Resolution" submitted to the European Parliament: "Considers HAARP by virtue of its far-reaching impact on the environment to be a global concern and calls for its legal, ecological and ethical implications to be examined by an international independent body...; [the Committee] regrets the repeated refusal of the United States Administration... to give evidence to the public hearing into the environmental and public risks [of] the HAARP program." 18. The Committee's request to draw up a "Green Paper" on "the environmental impacts of military activities", however, was casually dismissed on the grounds that the European Commission lacks the required jurisdiction to delve into "the links between environment and defense". 19 Brussels was anxious to avoid a showdown with Washington. FULLY OPERATIONAL While there is no concrete evidence of HAARP having been used, scientific findings suggest that it is at present fully operational. What this means is that HAARP could potentially be applied by the US military to selectively modify the climate of an "unfriendly nation" or "rogue state" with a view to destabilizing its national economy. Agricultural systems in both developed and developing countries are already in crisis as a result of New World Order policies including market deregulation, commodity dumping, etc. Amply documented, IMF and World Bank "economic medicine" imposed on the Third World and the countries of the former Soviet block has largely contributed to the destabilization of domestic agriculture. In turn, the provisions of the World Trade Organization (WTO) have supported the interests of a handful of Western agri-biotech conglomerates in their quest to impose genetically modified (GMO) seeds on farmers throughout the World. It is important to understand the linkage between the economic, strategic and military processes of the New World Order. In the above context, climatic manipulations under the HAARP program (whether accidental or deliberate) would inevitably exacerbate these changes by weakening national economies, destroying infrastructure and potentially triggering the bankruptcy of farmers over vast areas. Surely national governments and the United Nations should address the possible consequences of HAARP and other "non-lethal weapons" on climate change. NOTES 1. The latter calls for nations to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by an average of 5.2 percent to become effective between 2008 and 2012. See Background of Kyoto Protocol at http://www.globalwarming.net/gw11.html 2. The Times, London, 23 November 2000. 3. Intelligence Newsletter, December 16, 1999. 4. Ibid. 5. Air University of the US Air Force, AF 2025 Final Report, http://www.au.af.mil/au/2025/ (emphasis added). 6. Nicholas Begich and Jeane Manning, The Military's Pandora's Box, Earthpulse Press, http://www.xyz.net/~nohaarp/earthlight.html See also the HAARP home page at http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/ 7. See Briarpatch, January, 2000. (emphasis added). 8. Quoted in Begich and Manning, op cit. 9. Air University, op cit. 10. Rosalie Bertell, Background of the HAARP Program, 5 November, 1996, http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/envronmt/weapons.htm 11. Begich and Manning, op cit. 12. Don Herskovitz, Killing Them Softly, Journal of Electronic Defense, August 1993. (emphasis added). According to Herskovitz, "electronic warfare" is defined by the US Department of Defense as "military action involving the use of electromagnetic energy..." The Journal of Electronic Defense at http://www.jedefense.com/ has published a range of articles on the application of electronic and electromagnetic military technologies. 13. Military Space, 6 December, 1999. 14. UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, New York, 1992. See complete text at http://www.unfccc.de/resource/conv/conv_002.html (emphasis added). 15. See Associated Press, 18 May 1977. 16. Environmental Modification Ban Faithfully Observed, States Parties Declare, UN Chronicle, July, 1984, Vol. 21, p. 27. 17. European Report, 7 February 1998. 18. European Parliament, Committee on Foreign Affairs, Security and Defense Policy, Brussels, doc. no. A4-0005/99, 14 January 1999. 19. EU Lacks Jurisdiction to Trace Links Between Environment and Defense, European Report, 3 February 1999. ........ ......... ......... ......... C Copyright by Michel Chossudovsky, Ottawa, November, 2000. All rights reserved. Permission is granted to post this text on non-commercial community internet sites, provided the essay remains intact and the copyright note is displayed. To publish this text in printed and/or other forms contact the author at chossudovsky@videotron.ca, fax: 1-514-4256224. Michel Chossudovsky Department of Economics, University of Ottawa, Ottawa, K1N6N5 Fax: 1-514-425-6224 E-Mail: chossudovsky@videotron.ca; (Altern. E-mail: chossudovsky@sprint.ca) ********** OBRL News is a product of the non-profit Orgone Biophysical Research Lab Greensprings Research and Educational Center PO Box 1148, Ashland, Oregon 97520 USA http://www.orgonelab.org Building upon the discoveries of the internationally acclaimed natural scientist, Dr. Wilhelm Reich To subscribe to OBRL-News, send the message: subscribe obrl-news to the following address: Majordomo@lists.village.virginia.edu (Plain text email only! No "HTML-mail"!) To unsubscribe, or change to a new email address, firstly: unsubscribe obrl-news to the same address above. Then re-subscribe with your new address. subscribe obrl-news www.ctrl.org DECLARATION >> __________ EcoNews Service - Always online for Ecology, Consciousness & Universe Exopolitics. 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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 02-21-2001 10:07 AM
Hey CQ, where ya been hidin? Microwaves no doubt faction into the equation. That slow moving bizzare cloud formation on the 14th slowly made it's way down the coast into to northern Washington where it seemed to hover endlessly. Sure enough, another overcast front was approaching on the wake of this guiding horror...with lightly falling snow for 2 days, then mainly blue skies for 2-3 days, now I look up and see the dripping grid they are laying above for sleepy-town Kelowna not to see. Perhaps another *weather system* is on the way? Not only have I seen the small blurry (fast-moving-particles) puff-ball type, but lately bigger, squarer, rows of symetrical clouds, that ripple in waves as if radiating like spokes from a source. The satellite shows ripples here and there in varrying directions as determined by their point of origin underground or above.A real cloud one can halt with the mind and 'bust' at will, but with this holographic-like formation on Valentine's Day , I could halt for only 10-12 seconds and could not 'bust' or alter at all. Not Mother Nature's Creation. ms~ thanks for the awesome info and links on HAARP. As always you are a wealth of knowledge. I would have to agree, HAARP is mankinds *destiny*. 
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Rt
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posted 02-21-2001 11:02 AM
Lulu, H.A.A.R.P. has been operating at full power with all attenae the last 5 days
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cydoniaquest
nobody
nowhere 803 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 02-21-2001 11:25 AM
Ahhh....you're into Reich cloud busting, bio-energy I see, Lulu! Actually, whatever it's cause, I love the rain. (Often in winter, we in Northern CA get a lot of the same systems coming through as Oregon and Washington...degree of wetness varies). I know you aren't as thrilled with rain as we are down here, Lulu....but I enjoy it. I hauled much lumber (hardwood flooring) out of Washington, and I know it can go months on end without sight of the sun....but without all that rain, you wouldn't have all those beautiful, lush, green forests up there!! (I guess there's a trade-off )Great info on HAARP Mark, It's going to take some time to get through all those links. My own theory is that HAARP may be a combination of things. They also refer to it as an (IRI) Ionospheric Research Instrument....so it may be a tool designed to research many things. I've even postulated the idea on the Chemtrail and CO board that it might be used in reverse than what most people assume.....to extract electricity from the atmosphere rather than just add to it. But I'm now starting to think that a Star Wars application is the biggest probability for its use. EMP technology is the warfare of the future. We will most likely begin all wars in the future like we did with the Gulf War. First we will attempt to destroy the enemy's electronic infrastructure with some form of Electromagnetic Pulsed energy. Many fighter jets are even equipped with EMP emitters designed to fry military computer hardware and electronic circuitry on the ground or airborne. In the same respect, my guess is that HAARP technology will probably be employed as a weapon (as most military contracted projects usually are)....and I believe it is an electronics warfare EMP weapon. Electromagnetic Pulse, can be generated with a nuclear explosion, of course, but what that lacks is directional accuracy. HAARP may fill the need to apply more focussed directional EMP energy at a target like an incoming missile. In addition, the world gets upset when we start using nuclear weapons to generate EMP, but with HAARP this can be done on a regular basis, and hardly anyone even notices. “Shield” at the Chemtrail and Co. message board, posted and interesting article that linked HAARP to an SDI defensive type weapon. It could be used to destroy the fragile electronics of incoming enemy ICBMs and render them harmless before reaching targets in the US. Now if that’s it’s purpose…..God bless it….I have no problem with that! I think this is indeed its most probable application....but that is just pure speculation on my part…..one shouldn’t loose sight of the more negative and dangerous applications as well. I'm of the opinion we shouldn't trust our friendly neighborhood government too much.....especially when they say; "We only want to help you"! 
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Dick Eastman
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Yakima, Washington, USA 33 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 02-21-2001 03:34 PM
The paragraphs below discusses the possibility that there is a criminal relationship among Clandestine Weather Modification, Commodities Markets, global organized crime, China's Princelings, and recent Presidential Pardons. I am sending this rough, but essentially complete analysis to newsgroups. I want it in many hands before anyone can react to quash it. A polished and elaborated version will follow. -------------------------- I am not sure that "New World Order" is a productive concept, since, like the label "El Nino" in meteorology, the term encourages people to stop looking for detail, for controlling variables and relationships, merely to settle on a near-meaningless blanket term that does nothing but polarize discussants. The paragraphs below uncover a terrifying relationship among Clandestine Weather Modification, Commodities Markets, global organized crime, China's Princelings, and recent Presidential Pardons. But first, let me illustrate how the public can be deceived by disinformation campaigns --and "global warming" is a disinformation campaign to cover CWM manipulations by organized crime of weather-sensitive commodities markets -- campaigns to create a spurious "urgent good cause" that compells legislatures and organizations, scientists and activists to participate unknowingly in creating disasters for the clandestine purpose of control agricultural commodities markets, futures markets, and the prices of weather-sensitive derivatives and so forth. (Sorry about the slipshod sentence structure -- I'm in a hurry.) Let me illustrate this disinformation "spin" technique with the recent national campaign against cigarettes: The war on cigarettes was fought by a President and Justice Department owned by 1.) drug lords, 2} the Chinese globial espionage apparatus that seeks to subvert nations that give sociopathic Beijing Princelings an inferiority complex by deluging those nations in illegal narcotics (a plan conceived by the late Zhou En-lai in the early 1950's and never repudiated or discontinued); 3) lawyers who earn big money defending drug criminals (Only small-time drug pushers go to prison in the United States.) : 4) the "social services industry" (social workers, counselors, psychologists, probation officers, treatment facilities) all of whom would be out of jobs (with no skill that is marketable)if the people suddenly adopted middle-class anti-drug values and had bright prospects for a good future if they practice middle-class virtues. It is rock-solid economics that if a "good" (like cigarettes) becomes more expensive and harder to get -- then suppliers of substitute goods (like illegal narcotics) will enjoy an increase in demand for their product, i.e., a shift of the substitute product's demand curve to the right; especially if the two "goods" are close substitutes. And of course since drugs and cigarettes are both a means of coping with stress, of immediate short-term relief and distraction from situations they cannot escape and don't know how to cope with (lacking culturally buttressed inner fortitude), it follows that when one of two ways out of immediate stress (cigarettes and hard illegal narcotics) becomes harder to get, the other good, other things being equal, will experience an increase in demand and usage. And this is not refuted by the argument, "If that were true, Clinton would have moved to legalize drugs." If he did had then his sponsors (organized crime, China, Cuba, and Columbian narco-terror) would no longer enjoy their now-firmly established monopoly position and monopoly revenues and profits. (And yes, the CIA and Mossad are also benefactors of the drug trade -- but keep in mind: (1) the Mossad operates in the U.S.A. on behalf of the CIA, and (2) that the CIA has nothing to do with Americans (tyhey know nothjing of its agenda or its operations) and Mossad has nothing to do with Jews or Israel (for the same reason) -- they are the covert tools of Pirates (merchant bankers, currency traders,and other big brokers and dealers of Wall Street, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Frankfurt and The City (a network of some the worlds richest families)-- an operating network of interests that goes back 500 years -- think of them as history's East India Tea Company gone global. (It was the East India company that pillaged India and pummeled China with its opium trade and monopoly lock on east-west commerce since the 19th century) -- and, I may as well add, this global establishmentazzi will never be defeated without Jew and gentile uniting, without Jews and Arabs of good will realizing the true instigators of their antagonisms, without black and white, without yellow and brown --all cooperating to defeat the establishmentazzi. (It will require a rebirth of the common man's faith in the Common Man and acceptance of the principle that "Every man is responsible to every other man." (Not likely for today, but not altogether hopeless either, if you can see past what the media toss in our eyes.) Now, with this orientation, let us take a look at some very bad news. Connect Clinton, the CIA, the Chinese domination of the Chicago commodities exchanges (biggest in the world), Hillary Clinton's impossible 30-million to one killing in commodities from one investment (on her first and only try!), and Clinton's recent pardoning of commodities traders--in particular, Marc Rich, billionaire a Mossad agent who ammased over a billion dollars in commodities, futures and derivatives markets even while a fugitive from United States justice. (Do you really think that Marc Rich was such a resourceful entrepreneur and servant of consumer sovereignty in the markets that he got that money by promoting "better mousetraps? Impossible!) Add that matrix to this one: Clandestine Weather Modification is being conducted in secret by rouge agents within the U.S. government and other organizations, operations concealed by a pseudo-scientific disinformation program -- the "global- warming" scare that requires the complicity of individuals in the leadership of many of the nations leading scientific and information organizations, both public and private. The technology (involving the HAARP system that projects energy off the ionosphere to heat cloud or affect other wave patternings and particle energies influencing the biosphere -- effecting small perturbations at catastrophe-theoretic critical points that result in vast changes in the convection cells of the atmosphere, oceans, and sub-crust mantle --causing shifts in air and atmospheric moisture and heat flows, shifts in ocean-surface currents, and earthquake shifts in the earths crust, respectively. (reference below) What has happened is that the services of a secret defense weapon (weather modification) has been sold to organized crime and rogue factions of secret government agencies -- Mossad and the "red" faction of the CIA; including, I suspect, Marc Rich-- and the People's Liberation Army (which is in fact the Princeling's super-monopolistic transnational corporation and "establishment" rolled into one. Consider NASA's Earth Observing System (EOS) which provides Clandestine Weather Modification with its real-time feedback on millions of atmospheric, oceanic, and land variables, became operational at exactly the time that the first multi-billion-dollar super disasters began occurring around the world. Not even academia and the normal U.S. weather establishment receives the satellite algorithms needed for receipt and analysisof EOS remote-sensing data. Instead they receive pre-processed interpretations and color-coded maps, i.e., pre-digested, "dumbed-down" and unverifiable computer-generated "interpretation" of that data. Meanwhile the real-time on-line remote-sensing algorithmic data is shared with Chinese researchers (the People's Liberation Army) and the National Science Foundation (the "establishment's secret chemistry set," in the same way the CIA is capitalism’s invisible army. Got to send this fast -- skip further exposition -- here is a recent letter summarizing what I wanted to say: Dear "Giles", These are the right questions to ask. Here are answers that so far satisfy me: > Q1. Since such technology as you describe could > only have been produced with the cognisance > and co-operation of the G7 governments, why > have we in Britain been having such bloody > awful weather recently? I can't see any > economic benefit for anyone resulting from this. > All of the major banks and insurance > companies, as well as the rest of industry, must > have lost many millions of pounds as a result of > the recent floods, not to mention the loss of life. A: First the short answer: In an economic disaster assets are not destroyed, they merely change hands. And even in physical disasters, some individuals gain. (On a small scale think of arsonists and insurance. But on national scales, think of those who will lend the money that will be needed to finance rebuilding and to give emergency assistance. Look at the politicians who before the disaster had no influence with middle-class voters, who suddenly have the tremendous power of the "carrot on a stick" in the form of disaster aid "with strings." (In my own state forest fires were deliberately fought in inept ways, because the economically distressed population knew that there would be disaster aid.) Elaboration of this concept: It would be nice if everyone shared your understanding of Britain as having one social welfare , one "common good" that Her Majesty's government attempts to maximize "for the good of all" and so forth. But age old is the problem of private interest and private power bending the trajectory of the common good towards self-aggrandizement. I do not know your politics, but I think it likely that you will agree that the common good has often been betrayed for the benefit of powerful individuals. I do not know if British history books recount the controversy of the "Corn Laws" in exactly the same way American history books tell it -- but here is a case in which the importation of corn from the United States was deliberately restricted to raise prices of food grown by tenant farmers on the landed estates -- so that the increased total revenues could then be transferred to the landowners by means of correspondingly higher rents -- while many in Britain and Ireland went hungry and later starved -- and in the face of the greatest appeals to humanitarian considerations from the mouths of Cobden and Bright and other liberals the House of Lords persisted in "not seeing the point." Or consider the possibility that World War One was allowed to continue in stalemate on the Western Front in order that geopolitical objectives (the conquest of oil lands from the Ottoman Turks) might be realized (and so we have the Gallipoli campaign and the exploits of T. E. Lawrence); we have an American breakthrough -- German's surrendering as soon as they knew it was Americans who were advancing, i.e., theAmericans "of the "Fourteen Points" -- actually called back and the advancing Americans thrown into the Argon forests to keep the war from ending, to keep the Americans from winning the show before the right time. An American example: The richest families of the last 150 years made their original fortunes in Civil War profiteering -- the Vanderbilts, Morgans, Belmonts, Goulds, Astors, Harrimans, Davidsons, Villards, and Vanderlips come to mind. After the war they used that money to create monopolies. The Spanish American war -- was simply another money maker cooked up for that purpose only (it may have been American- sent agents who blew up the Battleship Maine in 1898). Note how the Federal income tax and the Federal Reserve banking system came in 1913, under a President who was soon promising to keep us out of World War One -- but always refused to initiate mediation! -- and only "forced himself to do the moral thing," i.e., enter the insane war, when signals were received by Edward House from The City through the J.P. Morgan that the time was right. You may also not know that Churchill and President Franklin Roosevelt were intending to enter America in the European war begun in 1939, even as Roosevelt was promising American mothers that "your boys will not go to war." Another feast for investment bankers who lend money to governments. Furthermore, it was "conservative" Winston Churchill (according to John Kenneth Galbraith, former Ambassador to the Court of St. James in the Kennedy years) was "visiting" in the spectator's gallery of the New York Stock Exchange at the exact moment of the October 29 crash! (The crash "corrected" Churchill's error of setting the pound at its pre-WWI gold value after the WWI-- the crash deflated the dollar --( a third of the money supply was destroyed due to the crash and the "money-multiplier" effect -- but -- supposing you could possibly believe any of this as I do -- consider the scale of this tragedy that a secretive elite permitted to happen merely to insure their own aggrandizement. Some say that Kennedy was killed, that China was given to Mao (actually pushed in his lap -- by deliberate economic and political sabotage of Chiang Kai-shek) -- merely to secure continuance of the monopolistic economic power of Hong Kong in china-west trade (Hong Kong would not have been be worth a hill of beans had China been opened up on the principles conforming to the economic doctrines of the Chicago School of Economics model in 1945 -- as Chiang Kai-shek is said to have been intending (which explains the strong opposition, even sabotage, he got from elite-family officials in the State Department (especialy Gen. George C. Marshall). The financial families that are so powerful today are unknown to you -- and so when you try to imagine them to be motivated as you are, to share your ideals and hopes for your country and for mankind. But we are a species with as much variety of temperament as exists between cocker spaniels and pit bulls -- and a cocker can't imagine the dreams and schemes of a pit bull. I , an American mut raised in classless California in the 1950's, for one, could never imagine this gulf to exist, until I saw if first had in New Haven and later at Lake Forest and Westport. I especially was deluded into thinking that the patriotism of the American rtuling classpatriotism would be stronger and more systematic and thorough than that found in middle America. Then I saw Clinton -- and I had to ask how such a man with such a temperament could possible pass muster with this nation's power brokers to become President of the U.S. (Tony Blair, in Britain, is a much better politician than Clinton, simply because he has not stirred up militias (and whatever I am) against his agenda -- but he is working for the same "firm" Clinton has served so faithfully -- Clinton kept all the promises to those he intended to keep promises to. (In Britan, The City owns more control of the Labour Party than organized labor itself (and of the Conservative Party than the hereditary nobility, or so it appears to me fromYakima Washington), since middle-class oriented Margaret Thatcher was put aside. In my opinion, G7 leaders are all imposing-looking hand-picked yes men -- given the outward mantle of power and status -- in a charade to impress and deceive the the little people. (The U.S. is administered by top people all belonging to the Council on Foreign Relations, a group founded by David Rockefeller in the 1930's to represent American financial interests in the dominant American institutions. If the purpose of the CFR (and the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderbergs, was really to promote the common good and elevate the commonman) -- they would not resort to secrecy as they have. In my keynote ezboard essay, I described how powerful private interests gain from public calamity. > Q2. You mention "advanced radio physics" as a method of heating > large areas of land to produce massive thermals. Do you have any > documentation to support this assertion? A: Yes. At this web site of the man who shaped and headed the still-very-much-with-us HAARP program: www.eastlundscience.com/currentd/html Click on: Item 3: Weather modification with high-power electro-magnetic radiation" > Q3: Are you in fact referring to the experiments in > satellite-based microwave transmitters carried > out by both the US and USSR in the late 80s? Not to my knowledge. I am referring to existing technology now in place in Alaska -- and recently acknowledged albeit very vaguely and guardedly in the magazine Popular Science by the head of the National Security Agency. (HAARP, like area 51 is a subject of much speculation -- since both are "above top secret" and that makes people suspicious and wary. (Smart people >Q4: If this technology has been improved, mere > weather modification might be the least of our > problems. Anyone for orbital mind-control lasers? A: Well if they have the power to get a system of mind control lazars up there, then they don't need mind control lazars -- they already rule. (And it is expensive to operate us all like so many synthetic warriors and monsters in a Super Nintendo game. Weather is a weapon of mass destruction. And the super rich have--since the East India Company wasfirst chartered -- been extremely "Malthusian" in their thinking. You and I, like Dicken's Tiny Tim, are just part of the ugly unsustainable surplus. (It is this ideology that justifies their not wasting their great capital accumulations for which they are "responsible", by merely throwing it away inferiors who cannot check their own procreation and who overburden the world's resources already etc. etc. and must be compressed into cities so as not to bring down property values by spoiling the natural scenery off the rich man's thousand acre terrace. (You have to know that acceptance of "abortion on demand" began at the top -- since in America fortunes are divided among all the heirs.) > > 3. I'm a little unclear on the motivations for > whoever might be behind such a project. > Surely you can't be suggesting that insurance > companies are in the habit causing major > disasters to undermine each other in some > sort of global 'hostile takeover' game? If you re-read the CWM-thesis paper, you will see that insurance companies are mentioned as intended victims, not as the perpetrators. Their accumulated capital competes with the loanable capital of the merchant banks and commercial banks. And when the insurance companies are drained, the money goes to the corporations that participate in the reconstruction -- and all of the corruption, economic and political, attached to the awarding of those contracts > > 4. My biggest problem is one which undermines > all 'massive conspiracy' theories. As anyone who reads the > newspapers knows, governments are notoriously bad at keeping > secrets. Yes, but investment bankers, currency traders, corporate CEO's, big lawyers etc. are notoriously good at it. The government is not the agency doing it, if it is being done. Governments are the organizations that the real elite controls through private channels of influence. AMERICANsociologist wrote the highly-respected analysis of the U.S. ruling class, called "The Power Elite." Unfortunately the idea of governments working as the civics text books discuss is just not true. The corruption is the real purpose, the legitimate stuff is window dressing. (Sorry to break the news.) In every country, hardly a week goes by > without some new political scandal resulting from someone saying the wrong > thing to the wrong person. Consequently I have difficulty in believing that > any government could keep something as big as global clandestine weather > modification a secret for decades. The same can be said of secret alien > bases, the Ancient Order of Illuminati and the plot to assassinate JFK. > However I still reckon Oswald was a patsy! On all of this I agree. All of it. (See above.) > > > Yours from England, where it's still raining... > ............. Thank you for the thought provoking questions-- I never put this into words before. ....... Your friend, Dick Eastman (I intend to polish this letter and post it ---- without your name, of course. In the meantime feel free to use this draft as you wish. note: I refer readers to an essay posted at www.rense.com and www.chemtrailcentral.com and to several articles at ezboard: bclandestineweathermodification at www.ezboard.com. (None of these sites are in any way responsible for or identified with the views expressed in this post.) Dick Eastman Yakima U.S.A. Every man is responsible to every other man.

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Dick Eastman
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Yakima, Washington, USA 33 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 02-25-2001 03:08 PM
Here is a kind of circumstantial evidence that I find very compelling.First, you need to know this: Our government is spending billions on climate prediction and exactly "zero" on weather modification. Also, "climate" gets the big research money while weather gets very little. Now read this: Because of the famous limitations imposed by "sensitive dependence on initial conditions," even with the best high-speed computers and with EOS and later remote sensing systems around the globe computer weather prediction is limited to about three and a half weeks maximum. In contrast the climate models are just about as reliable as econometric models, which is to say "not-at-all-but-who-cares-since-the-prediction- will-be-forgotten-when-the-prediction-comes-due." Yet the billions of pounds (dollars) thrown at climate modeling, and motivated by "concerns" and can't-afford-to-wait-and-see "possibilities" and "potentials." (And notice that the advocates are not geophysicists and meteorologists, but "global warming experts" speaking from platforms paid for by transnational-corporation supported NGO's -- even as once-respected critics of the global-warming hypothesis are shut out of the conferences that are got up -- like the recent one in Shanghai...Shanghai, there will not be nosy reporters asking sticky questions etc. ... At any rate, my question is why do we throw our money at climate research, when the possibility of return benefit is so much greater in short-term weather prediction and control. Even if the dire global warming scenarios are correct (a big "if") the climate models offer no hope for a technology to control the problem. But the three and a half weeks (or even two weeks!) of accurate weather prediction permits continuous weather modification. (And if the weather modification interventions are also continuous, control can be continuous too.) If climate changes drastically, weather modification would be our best hope of seeing that the macro effects (of higher general temperature, for example) could be distributed in the least damaging way, or even in the most beneficial way. For example, if increased carbon dioxide does cause in increase in temperature -- and a concomitant increase in the vapor the atmosphere carries at any time, is there not therein the opportunity for greater use of cloud seeding than otherwise -- perhaps causing deserts to bloom even as average temperatures do rise. Perhaps yielding Russia its ice-free ports at last, or filling the sinking ground water of central China? I ask this of those of you who reject the idea that the international agencies are already modifying the weather clandestinely -- to consider the sense of the question posed above. Then ask yourself why weather modification technology has disappeared from the media and from textbooks. (Officially the U.S. discontinued a weather modification involvement that had been growing every year since the 1940's -- so that today the U.S. spends "zero" on weather modification. (While, Israel, according to an Israeli meteorologist currently obtains 22 percent of its rain from weather mod.) Climate is not where we should be putting all of our atmospheric science research. (And of course, there is the possibility that "global warming" is just a scare story to get funds to by the equipment used in ongoing "clandestine weather modification" systems. If you post a comment on this here, please e-mail it to me as well. Dick Eastman Yakima, Washington U.S.A. 
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Dick Eastman
Senior Member
Yakima, Washington, USA 33 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 02-27-2001 12:45 PM
Like the weather and the oceans, the mantle beneith the floating tectonic plates also involve convection cells, but in a plastic medium that sets up wave patterns that may may be modified by superimposition of additional waves.It is that fact that makes the following interesting: ENVIRONMENTAL WAR & GLOBAL EARTHQUAKES > > Have not seen the book referenced below, > but could the abnormal activity on > 3.39 MHz February 20 and prior be > linked to the Seattle quake? If so, why > would HAARP (supposedly funded by U.S. > sources) be used to create quakes > or other assorted EM mayhem on U.S. > property? I picked up a > signal so strong it went right off the S > meter on my SW set at that frequency at > 6:00 am on Feb 20th. Took an audio > sampling of half an hour but can't make > hide or hair of what > HAARP is broadcasting, just that it's > STRONG. Answer: HAARP is operated by the unaccountable secret organizations, a group that long ago made its own peace with the enemy and today merely carries on the charade of protecting the U.S. For example, the CIA, Mossad and the Peoples Liberation Army together act as one giant transnational corporation and NGO in a host of secret "research" ventures, including weather modification and other geophyscial science. But this alliance also has a mercenary side to it as well (see article on weather modification, following the book notice, below). > econews@ecologynews.com wrote: > EARTH CHANGES: ENVIRONMENTAL WAR & GLOBAL EARTHQUAKES > > VANCOUVER, BC - In the aftermath of the Seattle, WA > earthquake of 28 February 2001, Universebooks.com is > immediately releasing a review pre-publication version of > its new eBook on Environmental War and Global Earthquakes. > You can now read a review copy of the challenging new eBook > EARTH CHANGES (Universebooks.com) at: > http://www.universebooks.com/earthchanges.html > EARTH CHANGES explores the disciplines of catastrophic > geology, seismology, vulcanology, parapsychology, and public > interest policy analysis. Author Alfred Lambremont Webre > develops a new field theory explaining how an age of global > earthquakes might be fulfilled -- not by earth system > mechanics, but by the deployment of a new generation of > electromagnetic weapons, used in environmental warfare. > > Electromagnetic (EM) weapons are a possible trigger of > cataclysmic earth events. EM fields can superheat the > ionosphere, devastating magnetic bands around the earth, and > in turn causing massive disruption of the earth's Tectonic > plates. A January 17, 1995 earthquake in Kobe, Japan may > have been triggered by clandestine deployment of EM weapons. > EM strategic warfare includes weather, climate and earth > event warfare. Researchers have reported the use of EM > weapons in anti-population mind-control operations over > major cities. >....... > Author Alfred Webre, a Yale Law School graduate, is a former > member of the Governor's Emergency Task Force on Earthquake > Preparedness, State of California, and author of the classic > work on Earth Changes, THE AGE OF CATACLYSM (G.P. Putnam's > Sons 1974). > CONTACT: Geri DeStefano, PhD, editor@universebooks.com > EcoNews Service > http://www.ecologynews.com ------------------------------------ Letter #2: Dear Mr. Eastman:
There is no such thing as clandestine weather modification going on in the US or elsewhere. There have been some NASA funded recent studies on aircraft generation of contrails. Because of the increasing density of commercial air traffic contrail formation is getting to be more and more of a concern as to its impact on weather and climate, but there is nothing clandestine about it. If you fly in commercial aircraft you are a contributor just as I am. As to cloud dissipation, there have been limited studies of using a very high-powered laser to dissipate layer clouds for the purpose of making military targets visible and laser guidance systems operational. I believe there has been only one such investigation at Los Alamos Lab and I don't believe the system was ever tried. Living on the eastern slopes of the Cascades, you are likely viewing natural cloud dissipation as the air subsides on the lee side of the mountains warming and drying the air which then causes clouds to dissipate. Nothing clandestine and all quite natural. Bill (Dr. William Cotton) Colorado State University Dept. of Atmospheric Science Fort Collins, CO 80523-1371
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Dick Eastman
Senior Member
Yakima, Washington, USA 33 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 03-13-2001 04:10 PM
If prediction is worth this much, how much more must control be worth?"Predicting Weather Economics" ... Forecast: Events such as snowstorms can have an important financial impact on businesses, even when the predicted storm goes elsewhere or fails to materialize. (Source: Baltimore Sunpapers, 3/13/01) With temperatures rising and skies brightening into blue, most people have forgotten about last week's predicted big snowstorm. Everybody, that is, except the accountants. As many companies are learning, a snowstorm - even one that misses its predicted target - can have major economic consequences. Before the first flakes fell last week, major businesses in the Northeast told workers to stay home. Airlines at New York's three major airports grounded more than 2,000 flights, nearly 30 percent of their schedule. "There' s been a bit of an awakening in American business with regard to weather," says Mike Smith, chief executive officer of WeatherData, a private forecasting firm in Wichita, Kan. "In the past it was considered an act of God. Today we have the technology and science to both save lives and minimize losses." Studies have shown that issuing a hurricane warning costs local economies roughly $1 million dollars a square mile. In 1999, when residents along nearly 2,000 miles of Florida coastline were warned of Hurricane Floyd's approach, "the impact of the forecast rivaled that of the storm," says Roger Pielke Jr., a researcher at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colo., who studies the economics of weather. Full text: http://www.sunspot.net/news/printedition/bal-te.journal13mar13.story

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Nirvana
Senior Member

Seattle, WA 180 posts, Nov 2001
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posted 04-25-2002 12:28 PM
I found this write-up by Dick Eastman. I’m posting to the thread to resurrect it since it’s not been touched for a year.This concerns the information above about: How "Chemtrail" Cloud "Pushes" Weather Systems. This theory makes sense to me. They may be trying to ‘pump’ the atmospheric current to bring air and moisture from the Pacific (on the west coast) over more parched parts of the country. The jet stream and other typical atmospheric currents may have been disrupted or stopped by global warming. This may be a desperate attempt to get them on track again. Or, for those that believe in diabolical intentions, they may be trying to screw up the weather, but I tend to believe the former. Maybe the chemtrailing is just not working that well. Yesterday we were chemmed. Before the chemming began, there was no perceptible wind, no clouds, and relatively warm outside. After chemming, additional non-chem clouds formed, and within a couple of hours the wind was strongly blowing eastward. I suppose if the spraying were timed properly with Eastern Washington, a chain reaction of air current into the central US and Canada could be created. If you look at http://www.goes.noaa.gov/browsw.html, the jet stream often passes over the Seattle area. That’s probably why it’s so cloudy here most of the time. Art Bell has mentioned hearing about the possible use of Tesla Technology too as part of the chemtrailing. Maybe they combine the two for a better effect. I saw on the news last night that much of Colorado is getting the worst drought in a century. So is the East Coast. A big area of concern may be holding together the North Atlantic current as well. That would entail slowing down any unusual ice melting off NE Canada to Greenland. I’ll bet that would be mandated by the UN and NATO due to the potential effects on Europe.

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Deborah
Take It To The Limit

Flagstaff, AZ 700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-25-2002 12:37 PM
.....A big area of concern may be holding together the North Atlantic current as well. That would entail slowing down any unusual ice melting off NE Canada to Greenland..... Yep.
Great post, Nirvana. 

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