posted 02-15-2001 01:14 PM            

I watched the aircraft making a chemtrail line alongside another one, and I watched until it stopped (coming from the aircraft), and I watched the aircraft stream on with no chemtrail behind.

They are laying them down in patterns in two areas, one is over Napa county and the other looks to be over San Francisco itself.

I have also observed similar patterns here on Feb 1, 3, 4, and 5th. It had been rainy since this period (con to the weather modification theory) until a few days ago.

posted 02-15-2001 08:26 PM            

Thank Thermit that we are now spared such groundless, mindless pabulum, and blatant disinformation.

And yes, what you are seeing is what we have been reporting as ChemTrails for the past two years. Welcome to the new world order.

Tell a friend.

posted 02-16-2001 12:13 PM            

Then again, it is most dismaying to see such little response (I mean how few people take the time to think about what they have and what has happened right in front of their eyes. We appear to be the most brainwashed society in the history of mankind. It's good to hear that a few of us are still thinking properly.

Today, at 8:30 AM (when I first got a chance to check the skies) I was dismayed to see that they are at it again. And, it looks like they started early for there are streaks in three different areas and they are indeed extensive. Note: I didn't see these actually being made, but I did see two being made in the same vicinity and they are at it right now as I type.

Was wondering if any of you have suffered any symptoms from the spray? So far, the only thing bothering me or my kids is itchy eyes (I've got them big time today). I do realize this could just be allergies.

Also, have any of you tried using any air filtration equipment in your homes or businesses. Here at my home I use an ozone generator.

Questions remain: Will California suffer the worst drought in 50 years? Will people begin to flood the local hospitals? I'll try to post anything pertinent that I can find or observe.

Anybody considering moving? (Where to?)

posted 02-17-2001 12:57 AM            

There has been so many people that I know affected with this so called virus that the doctors office is filled. My husband has been ill for over two weeks and kids in the schools are affected too. My son in LA area said all the kids in his college have this virus too. It isn't the flu, but what and where is it coming from.

I try to not to work outside during heavy spray days and try to keep my immune system up with vitamins, colloid silver, etc. Wisewoman has been helpful with assisting us with herbals.

posted 02-26-2001 01:22 PM            

At 8 am I looked across the horizon and saw the most concentrated spray patterns yet. They appeared to be over Suisun or Fairfield. Interestingly, this would make them almost directly over the Travis Air Forc Base. I wonder if any of these airmen notice and what they are thinking. It can't go unnoticed by them (can it?).

Also had an unnusual sighting of a chemtrail jet going into an existing chemtrail. Now listen closely (since you won't believe me): the existing chemtrail (which was now quite wide) was being parted ahead of the plane. That's what I said! At a distance of approximately 50 plane-lengths there was a clear path IN FRONT OF WHERE THE JET WAS FLYING TOWARD! It was a narrow path, about the width of a new chemtrail and it continued to form, maintaining a leading edge at about the same distance of 50 plane-lengths or so.

I have read about black lines preceeding chemtrail planes (from Rense.com) but this was blue. By the way, when the plane made a turn the leading edge of the "fore trail" stopped advancing, and the plane turned out of it (back into chemtrail and proceeded).

posted 02-26-2001 10:42 PM            

Illian was adopted by monica and OJ.
WELCOME back goldrush

posted 02-27-2001 01:04 PM            

I have no doubts about the traffic build-ups you mention. Which areas were you suggesting for examination? And what is your theory exactly with regards to this?

posted 03-02-2001 07:39 PM            

What I described is a grid pattern being layed down, not a few trails from planes leaving, turning or approaching. Now just how do you get a grid pattern over a 10 x 10 mile square area? Are you saying that it is accidental that this pattern occured from normal comings, goings, and pattern holding (generally done in large circles)? The odds of this are zero, pure and simple.

Not to mention that the chemtrails don't dissipate for hours, meanwhile commercial jets are flying in the same vicinity leaving little or no trails. I also observe the chemtrail planes have the ability to abrubtly stop the formation of a contrail/chemtrail.

Regarding getting well: If you are drinking fluoridated tap water, I suggest it's time to stop as this could be one of the causes of your illness and lack of mental flexibility. This is the most helpful advice that I can give YOU (seriously), unless of course you believe this practice is also for our own good.

posted 03-02-2001 08:09 PM            

This is a cruel thing to say N4wind. I think you're making mountains out of molehills when it comes to your interpretation of what Goldrush is saying. Read again what she said:

"Thermit? Have you checked my area, in the times suggested? The traffic patterns, seem very consistent to me, when the contrails are visible. Even consistent when they are dissipating ones. I thank you for you interest. The weather here has been variable day to day. Tomorrow may be too cloudy to check for trails. I do think much of it is commercial, scheduled traffic."

Notice that there is nothing impolite in this statement.....yet you come back with an attack. She is a pilot and in a position to know normal traffic patterns and separate them from abnormal. She says that she thinks much of it is normal schedualed traffic. Notice that "much" does not mean all. How can you find anything about this statement that is unreasonable, or offensive. Are you so thin skinned that you feel you must attack anyone who varies slightly from your belief system!

posted 03-04-2001 12:40 PM            

Please forgive me for having a difficult time walking outside with two boys, aged 2 and 4, looking up and seeing another assault on my well-being then losing my patience with somebody who’s own mind isn’t satisfied enough to acknowledge that we have a problem that is in need of immediate attention.

Do I have a thin skin? No, just worn. It’s a matter of patience. Chemtrail spraying is just another one of many intrusions to our freedoms and general health (and longevity), added to the current list which includes fluoride (poison) in our water, microwave and electro-magnetic radiation (cell phones and television), radar waves (airports, scanners, home sensing devices, military secret installations), HAARP, bad tissue in our vaccines, mad cow disease (now in everything from sugar to medicines), aids (AZT and “cocktails” are killing us (read Peter Duesberg, “Inventing the Aids Virus”)), MK ultra (mind control has been around since the 40’s and is definitely here now), car exhaust (vanadium, ammonia gas, benzene and MTBE), depleted uranium weapons (now having been dropped in three different regions by the UN), unbridled nuclear proliferation, nutri-sweet/aspertame, MSG, milk and beef hormones, pesticides and currently the worst one of all (happening right under our nose and claiming more lives than anything else) chemotherapy radiation ( I know of three cures for cancer, all of which have been brought to the FDA/AMA and mythodically destroyed (let me know if you desire one and I’d be happy to forward and direct)).

I’d be happy to supply information regarding any one of these “assaults” listed above, but debate the method of verification? Give me a break. There isn’t time for this any longer.

We have to realize that we ARE affected. But it is our seniors who are both affected by these and have “missed” them totally. Their trust has resulted in our liberties being assaulted to the point that few can possibly even begin to believe the extent of any single one of them. So they are no longer credible visionaries of our future. The denial has gone on too long. The current teaching of securing more for their children (reaganomics) has only resulted in the guaranteed destruction of this planet’s life support. To continue on, questioning moot points while assuming that tomorrow will offer the same kind of living is madness.

posted 03-04-2001 02:03 PM            

I do share your concerns with the poisons and diseases we now find in our everyday lives, because they do affect us all. (I’m surprised that the average life span continues to increase). Whether these things that kill us are introduced by design or by carelessness is up for debate though, but one thing seems evident, we are a suicidal race.

I am of the mind-set that AIDs and Ebola were intentionally introduced, to targeted populations. The jury is still out for me on "Mad Cow" whether that was intentional or not, but one thing is certain; it is propagated through stupidity, when we continue to feed livestock with feed that contains ground up animals possibly containing the same disease. If you're a beef eater, maybe looking for "corn fed" on the label might help. I’ve become a bit of a vegetarian myself since the news of mad cow.

As a pilot, I've known about the perils of aspartame for over ten years now, because it was recommended by the FAA that pilots avoid it....(so you know that government does realize its negative affects). I do believe that aspartame is an example of corporations profiting at the expense of humanity. They’ve known the negative effects since perhaps the beginning of its production. If I drink the stuff in coffee, I get an instant headache....so I know that it is not just hype that the stuff is dangerous. I've pleaded with my mother to stop using it, and gave her the statistics and she's since stopped.

As for the carbon emissions poisoning our air, hey I know all about that. As a truck driver I slept in a polluted truck stop so thick with diesel smoke you could cut it with a knife, on many occasions. If I opened the window in the sleeper cab, often some other truck would belch smoke into my bunk while I slept....because his smoke stacks happened to be aligned with the window (I often wonder why I'm not dead from carbon monoxide poisoning!).

I've long been a proponent of alternative energies. I think right now, with slight, relatively inexpensive modifications to current vehicles we could burn ethanol. Now I'm not talking about "gasohol" which is a hybrid fuel composed of gasoline mixed with ethyl alcohol, I'm talking about pure ethyl alcohol....or at least 180 proof. Ethyl alcohol burning engines have the same power output as gasoline...with slightly less range (because greater volumes of fuel is required). The by-product of combustion is water vapor. It can be made from waste products like wood pulp with enzyme technology improving all the time. But mostly it is made from corn which seems to be most efficient at yielding the most ethanol per bushel. The only by-product of combustion is water vapor, and, in addition, it keeps American farmers in business and ends our dependence of foreign oil. The established oligarchies know this and will fight to prevent the marketing of ethyl alcohol powered cars. So I agree that we could clean up this place, if we wanted to. I've got some personal ideas about how to do this from the private sector. We need to forget about government and get them off our backs to do it though.

That's why, after all this agreeing, I have to take you to task with your Reaganomics statement. You probably know what I think....but let me ask you: Why in the world would you think supply-side economics is a bad thing? Reagan's goal was to limit the size and scope of the federal government. Why would anyone be against this, given what we know about how government wastes money, and seeks absolute power? By providing tax cuts (with a democratic majority in congress), Reagan demonstrated for all to see that tax cuts boost the economy. When a business owner (small or large) gets a tax cut, he/she is able to hire more employees, or increase employee wages, so that maybe one day, one of those employees might be able to save enough money to start a business of their own. A tax cut gives the average Joe more money to spend on whatever he wants. If he goes out and buys a set of new tires with the money he saves, he brings more business to the tire company, which then can expand and produce more product, and employ more people. A tax cut boosts the economy in a thousand different ways no question about it.