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Deborah
Take It To The Limit

Flagstaff, AZ 700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-05-2001 07:02 PM
OK - this is the third time I have tried to post this material - let us see what happens this time. My system keeps freezing when I go between this site and Rolando's with copied links, etc. I also can't update Rolando's thread at Clifford's because THAT board is now telling me "I must be registered to post." THE DAY THE NASA INTENDS TO ANNOUNCE THAT THERE IS A LIFE ON MARS: http://deepspace4.freeservers.com/pages/space/pagespace.htm
I can see that I am going to have to input this material one post at a time.

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Deborah
Take It To The Limit

Flagstaff, AZ 700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-05-2001 07:06 PM
This "New Year's Story" by Rolando is a very interesting synthesis of a lot of the material at which we have all been looking: http://deepspace4.freeservers.com/pages/questions/pagequestions.htm 
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit

Flagstaff, AZ 700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-05-2001 07:23 PM
This is an article sent to me last night by Diane [thank you, Diane!]:"Britain working on version of "barbaric" vacuum bomb: report" The direct link to this article is WAY too long to post here, so please go to the following link and type Britain version vacuum bomb into the Search News Box: http://asia.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/world/afp/ The link to the above article will appear on the next page that comes up for you.
I sent this article plus a group of links from a search I did on fuel-air weapons to Rolando last night and received the following e-mail reply from him this morning. I have his permission to post it here: Hallo Deborah. Just read your FAE [fuel-air explosives] post. FAE was first used in the Gulf War. Using such bombs and depleted uranium shells (DU) US jets and helicopters have destroyed some 300+ vehicles escaping from the front in some valley in Iraq desert. Whole job was done in some 30 min. Saw the picture in the Newsweek or Time at the time. Main point was that the majority of the people (not all of them were soldiers) was killed by the lack of the oxygen. It was burnt out of their lungs. This morning on Italian TV was a notice that three more Italian soldiers which served on Kosovo died from the leukemia. Some Italian newspaper has shown that only US units are located as far as possible from DU use areas. US and EU still firmly state that DU ammunition is harmless.
20 years ago I was serving in Yugoslav army as a draftee in anti-tank artillery unit. We had DU gun ammunition also. This ammunition was invented and firstly used by RUSSIAN tank crews during Sinai war in (was it in '60 or '70) when Egypt defeated Israel thanks to this, than new ammunition. When the DU bullet head strikes any barrier it melts a hole through it owing to the high kinetic energy so the melted steel and uranium debris kills everybody inside the shelter/tank at that instant and uranium dust continues to do the some job for many years to come. This kind of radioactive contamination will last much longer that that around Carbonyl because Uranium half life is many times greater than that of iodine or strontium isotopes. In difference from the large caliber anti-tank gun ammunition, whose DU part during the firing does not touch the gun barbell, that used in US/ RUSSIAN/ EU multi-barbell airplane or helicopter guns does, which produces uranium cloud dust in the process. So at some occasions is safer to stand in the front of the gun. Gunner could miss but it cannot be missed. This may signify that at least part of GW vets suffers from radiation illness also because of the large-scale use of DU ammunition by the US. Also, people on the Kosovo and in Serbia shall have somewhat less space to live on for a while. All the best. 01-05-2001 IZAKOVIC CROATIA 
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit

Flagstaff, AZ 700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-05-2001 07:32 PM
Just now sent by Rolando: Silver Bullet: Depleted Uranium http://www.tv.cbc.ca/national/pgminfo/du/index.html
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Depleted Uranium Processing and Storage Facilities http://www.antenna.nl/wise/uranium/dfac.html#AMMFAB
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Article sent by Diane last night [thank you again, Diane!]:
US Agencies Seek To Turn Radioactive Metals Into Consumer Items By Brian Hansen http://www.rense.com/general6/usagencies.htm

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Deborah
Take It To The Limit

Flagstaff, AZ 700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-05-2001 07:37 PM
Link to Rolando Izakovic's Home Page: http://deepspace4.freeservers.com/pagenew.htm

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Deborah
Take It To The Limit

Flagstaff, AZ 700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-07-2001 08:47 PM
Jan 7, 2001 - 02:28 PM NATO Warned of Depleted Uranium Danger Months Ago By Burt Herman Associated Press Writer BERLIN (AP) - NATO warned countries with armies and aid workers in the Balkans months ago about the possible dangers of depleted uranium ammunition, which has recently sparked concern as a possible cause of serious illnesses in soldiers who served there. The German Defense Ministry confirmed Sunday that it received a warning in July 1999 of the risks from the ordnance, used by the United States during air campaigns across Yugoslavia for its armor-piercing qualities. According to an internal Defense Ministry document obtained by the Berliner Morgenpost newspaper and dated July 16, 1999, NATO had warned soldiers and aid workers that month of a "possible toxic threat" and advised them to take "preventative measures." The ministry has previously said it began health checks on soldiers who had come into possible contact with the depleted uranium ammunition that same month - as U.N. peacekeeping forces were still entering Yugoslavia's Kosovo province after NATO's 78-day bombing campaign.... http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA60885PHC.html 
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit

Flagstaff, AZ 700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-10-2001 01:51 PM
UPDATE 1/10/01>>>Just to let You know I have checked in the Chemtrails Central this evening ... morning. Thanks. This evening on Croatian television was announced that 17 Croatian soldiers died from leukemia so far. They have fought in 1992-93 in Slavonia (Croatian province facing Serbia). That was prior that the war spread in the Bosnia 1993 and later to Kosovo in 1999. To no one of them a real cause of the sudden illness was explained although almost all physicians were of the opinion that it was radiation related. During the transmission it was also announced that, as the incubation period of the leukemia is 7 to 11 years, more victims from the NATO troops are to be expected. State of the Kosovo/Bosnia population related to this issue is unknown. First chart of DU ammunition targets was released by NATO on 02-07-2000, almost a whole year before. Best regards. 09-01-2001 IZAKOVIC CROATIA 
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit

Flagstaff, AZ 700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-22-2001 03:37 PM
UPDATE 1/22/01From Rolando Izakovic: BOSSIER, LOUISIANA CHEMTRAILS Linked together by the nation's largest neon-lit bridge, Shreveport and Bossier City serve as the trade and cultural center of the 200-mile radius extending into Arkansas, Louisiana and Texas, known as the Ark-La-Tex. Bossier City's name has always been unique. It was first officially named as the Village of Bossier City, then the Town of Bossier City to finally become, after a legislative action against the United States Postal Service whose employees refused to deliver mail addressed to the Town of Bossier City, declaring it was just a town, not really a city, the City of Bossier City. City has thrived because it is transitional. First a cotton exporting river landing, next a railroad town, then an airbase and oil-boom town, it now garners attention with North America's largest park dedicated to the rose, recreational facilities, restaurants, shopping areas, museums and the best in riverboat gaming. And with chemtrails leaden skies. New site section is dedicated to the stunning Bossier, Louisiana chemtrail images and comments made by one of city's residents, Joanne Meehan. http://deepspace4.freeservers.com/pages/chemtrails/bossier/bossier.htm Folks, I have to tell you, I just ordered a delicious pizza for delivery prior to going in and looking at these images while waiting for it to arrive. At this moment, not only is my appetite completely gone, but I am literally sick to my stomach. I do not know, for the life of me, how anyone could look at these photos and continue to insist that there is nothing wrong. I don't know what else to say.

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Deborah
Take It To The Limit

Flagstaff, AZ 700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-22-2001 03:45 PM
UPDATE 1/22/01Here is the link to other recent material added by Rolando to his site: http://deepspace4.freeservers.com/pages/chemtrails/bossier/bossier.htm 
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit

Flagstaff, AZ 700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-24-2001 12:47 PM
UPDATE 1/24/01My hypothesis about prions and mycoplasma/viral contraception vectors being ideal for global population control through aerial dissemination and the real purpose of chemtrail sprayings operation makes me to look at things in little bit askew way. In this sense, remembering first mad cow case in Germany last year when bewildered farmer insisted that his crazy cow got it from the pure grass, while inspector was taking sample with 0,5 m long ground probe, I find this article excerpt somewhat interesting:ABC NEWS.com By Amanda Onion Jan. 22 - Mad cow disease is so terrifying and perplexing that some researchers have begun to believe it could have alien origins. Two astronomy and mathematics professors in England announced last month that cows in England and Wales may have picked up the disease after eating grass laced with a sprinkling of interstellar dust. The dust, the scientists proposed, fell as the Earth was bombarded by comets which hosted infectious, extraterrestrial matter. The notion may seem outlandish (and many scientists think it is), but research shows the disease, itself, is outlandish..... http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/DailyNews/madcowresearch010119.html No more details about reasoning or source are given. Afterwards article, at length, lists usual general BSE facts, as if it was expected from the reader to get used to them. My problem with this article is that it is difficult to understand how someone with such background could expect from a stray galactic molecule to perfectly infiltrate and fit into the cow/human brain structure making an unusable sponge out of it. On the other hand, it is not so rare that some human? beings like to send messages which can be understood only by their framed opponents. Comets were regularly blamed for similar things in the past. Last one for the whole middle age. Does anyone have similar opinion about this? It should be best if I could exterestriate (I know that last word does not exist).
All the best. 01-24-2001 IZAKOVIC CROATIA Note: "BSE" = Bovine Spongiform Encephalitis

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sedona
Senior Member
Sedona, AZ 86339 149 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-24-2001 01:10 PM
We all change our minds as a way of life, especially lately, so I don't know if what I think today I will think next week. But what research into this I have done seems to clearly indicate, to me anyway, that BSE is the direct result of human greed carried to insane levels. Just as CJD was first identified in New Guinea cannibals, as the result of devouring the brains of their enemies, the BSE variant seems definitely to have been the result of feeding cows to cows, ground up in their feed. To force herbivores into cannibalism is unthinkable, and yet that's what greed has done for years. It is easy to see how such an insane idea would have very drastic physiological results in the organisms of cows. Which humans would of course then directly be eating and drinking.
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit

Flagstaff, AZ 700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-24-2001 08:50 PM
The following material is also of great concern, in my opinion:Most deadly virusBy Stephen Reucroft and John Swain, Boston Globe: 1/23/2001 The most deadly virus may be just around the corner, waiting for some deranged scientist to make it. In what is easily one of the most disturbing findings we've ever seen, Ian Ramshaw of the Australian National University in Canberra, Australia, and Ron Jackson of the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization, also in Australia, inserted a gene for interleukin 4 into a mousepox virus. The idea was that, since interleukin 4 can stimulate the immune system, it might improve vaccines designed to make mice infertile by causing them to reject their own eggs. But interleukin 4 has a dark side to it, as it suppresses killer cells that are needed to fight viruses, and the new virus the researchers made actually killed all the mice to which it was given. Similar tinkering with other viruses could, with relatively little effort, make new strains with unprecedented lethality to humans. The researchers announced their results hoping that other scientists will be careful not to repeat their error with human viruses, but there are clearly very ominous possibilities lurking in the future. ref: New Scientist, Jan. 13, 2001. http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/023/science/Most_deadly_virus+.shtml This story was aired several times on WBZ News Radio yesterday morning. I remembered hearing the same story around December 28. A search for the original story was unsuccessful, but I did find the Boston Globe "summary" above.
The report yesterday on WBZ radio referenced rats, not mice. It also referenced a doctor from St. Jude Hospital who was quoted to be "very concerned" about this particular study. He was interviewed by phone, and in an excerpt from that interview, expressed his very up-front concern that similar studies could very possibly be done for the deliberate purpose of creating new viral strains. I am personally most concerned that the focus of this study seems to have been an exploration of methods for negating fertility in the animal subjects. It is not difficult to imagine that this line of inquiry is perhaps related to the issue of human over-population and possible methods for its future management. Anyone who knows me knows I would not make this connection lightly. I am rather upset about this study and do not feel like posting this information publicly. Here is another, related story:Protovirus Aims to Detect Molecules http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24367-2001Jan20.html I'm going to send this material to Rolando as I think his feedback would be very interesting.

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IZAKOVIC
Senior Member
Rijeka, Croatia (Europe) 128 posts, Jan 2001
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posted 01-28-2001 01:02 AM
Hallo All.One of the first articles on my site, which I have put-up in hurry last Jun to honor the NATO for the start of the chemtrail sprayings of Croatia (Europe), was that one about Australian environment research agency, CSIRO Wildlife Ecology introducing viral-vectored immunocontraception of local wild European rabbit, house mice and red fox population in in-filed research phase. I have been following their efforts for some time prior to this. They have attracted my attention because of the targeted, but globaly aplicable birth control of mammals they chose to call vertebrate. My first tought was: And what about particular segments of human population as targets? Recent New Scientist January 2001 article about killer virus was incorporated in to my story on 01-16-2001. Here is the leading column (frames page). http://deepspace4.freeservers.com/pages/main/pagemain.htm No frames: http://deepspace4.freeservers.com/pages/main/main1.htm Direct link to the article (no frames): http://deepspace4.freeservers.com/pages/science/geneticmanipulation/vertebratebiocontrol.htm It is my opinion that their work fits well in to the much larger picture, of which chemtrail sprayings are the most visible part. Sorry to post only now. I am just involved with to many oblogations. Today I am taking the advantage of the frequent fact that I could not sleep mutch. Deborah thank You on Your great help and everybody else on Your patience. All the best. 01-28-2001 IZAKOVIC CROATIA

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mark sky
bin Rydin

SW coast of Oregon 1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 01-28-2001 04:09 AM
well my e mail here shows 2 new messages but they wont come up for me to see so post your reply here as acorns fall upon falgone
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit

Flagstaff, AZ 700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-28-2001 08:56 AM
Good to see you here, Rolando! Maybe you are sleeping right now - I hope so! This excerpt from your post above is very distressing:"...CSIRO Wildlife Ecology introducing viral-vectored immunocontraception of local wild European rabbit, house mice and red fox population in in-filed research phase..." It relates directly to the material posted above on Australian studies involving negation of fertility in laboratory rats/mice.The following material was sent yesterday by Rolando. After I read it, I did a kamikaze search on each of the points he covered in his message, and I include that in the following post. From Rolando1/27/01 I came across the January 25th interview conducted by Jeff Rense (Sightings) with Donald W. Scott, M.Sc., the founder of The Common Cause Foundation, Ontario, Canada who, on December 12, 2000, has published a letter in which he summarizes results of the 5 years long research on chronic fatigue syndrome, or CFIDS or myalgic encephalo-myelitis or fibromyalgia or Aids.... Here are some interesting excerpts of his findings and those of his colegues which point to the global population control. 1946: Dr. George Merck, head of the biological research in the U.S. reported in a secret memo that his researchers had learned how to extract the disease toxin from brucellosis bacteria in a crystalline form suitable for aerosol diffusion, blood transfer (including the insect vector and blood transfusion), and by food and water contamination. 1969: The Pentagon's chief researcher asked Congress in a secret meeting for ten million dollars to develop a new weapon which would be 'refractory' to the human immune system and for which ..."No natural immunity could have been acquired." In other words, the victims would have a DEFICIENCY of ACQUIRED IMMUNITY. At the same Meeting Dr. MacArthur stated that his researchers were going to try to 'mutate bacteria and viruses' to create new microorganisms which 'did not naturally exist'. He emphasized two classes of weapon: one to [?] and one to kill. 1974: Henry Kissinger wrote National Security Memorandum 200 in which he advised Ford that the world's population would have be limited as far as its growth was concerned. Such limits would require an increased death rate or decrease in birth rate. Years of CIA/military/NiH/CDC refinement, bacterial mutation, and testing followed until in 1984 aerosol, insect vector and food dissemination tests at Tahoe-Truckee, Lyndonville, and the St. Lawrence Valley (Canada) were conducted... During the period between 1985 and 1989, U.S. sells several hundred units of bio-weapons to Iraq for use against Iran. Included in shipments were deadly anthrax and disabling brucella agents melitensis, suis and abortis. The latter caused "chronic fatigue" as well as disabling damage to major organs. 1991: Desert Storm Forces attacked by SCUDS. Several hundred thousand U.S., British and Canadian troops become ill with symptoms of mutated brucellosis. Allied attack halted immediately. Sub-viral particles variously called "amyloid", "prion", or "stealth virus", and consisting of DNA particles of some antecedent disease (probably mutated brucellosis) are able to penetrate human cells where they lodge in the nucleus or mitochondria. These particles have the ability to lie inactive (in some cases for several years) until stimulated to begin a process of protein fibre nucleation. Disease is extremely contagious but one did not present with illness unless: 1. a certain level of concentration of pathogen in the blood had been realized; 2. one's immune system was compromised; 3. one had a genetic pre-disposition and 4. one experienced some sort of trauma. The stimulation can consist of any sort of trauma: a car accident, a fall, a vaccination that doesn't go right, the birth of a baby, the death of a friend, etc. Gulf War illnesses appear to be a problem only of those troops who received multiple and in many cases unidentifiable inoculations and vaccinations prior to their departure for the Persian Gulf. Members of French armed forces did not receive special inoculations prior to leaving for the Gulf and members of the French armed forces have not developed Gulf War Illnesses. 1999: Veterans told "Pay for your own treatment". GW vets were/are subjects in a massive in-field test prior to the global application of the agent. His site is at: http://www.carolsweb.net/ccf/# January 25th Sightings interview at: http://broadcast.com/shows/endoftheline/01archives.html All the best. 01-27-2001 IZAKOVIC CROATIA 1/28/01 Personal statement deleted for transfer to Public Venue.
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit

Flagstaff, AZ 700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-28-2001 09:18 AM
Here is some additional research material to back up Rolando's points above:THE U.S. BIOLOGICAL WARFARE AND BIOLOGICAL DEFENSE PROGRAMS [Dr. George Merck's work is referenced in this material]: http://ccc.apgea.army.mil/Documents/HTML_Restricted/chapters/chapter_19.htm Was There an AIDS Contract? [Morrissey, University of Pennsylvania]
[Dr. MacArthur's testimony of 1969 is referenced in this paper]: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/African_Studies/Urgent_Action/AIDS_Contract.html World Population Growth and U.S. National Security
[Henry Kissinger's 1974 comments regarding "population control" are referenced in this material]: http://wwics.si.edu/organiza/affil/WWICS/PROGRAMS/DIS/ECS/report1/sherb.htm NIH Guidelines for Research Involving Recombinant DNA Molecules: Appendicies http://www.oehs.upenn.edu/bio/rDNA/Guidelines_Appendix.html
SHAPING GENES: Ethics, Law and Science of Using New Genetic Technology in Medicine and Agriculture http://zobell.biol.tsukuba.ac.jp/~macer/sg/SG8.html
[I was unable to find anything which specifically references the trials conducted at Tahoe-Truckee, Lyndonville, etc.]
Arming Iraq: Senator Don Riegle's Statement to the Senate Unofficial Version, Congressional Record (Senate) February 9, 1994 http://home.earthlink.net/~founders/armiraq.cfm
Gulf War Syndrome Military Made? Outrageous U.S. Germ Warfare Program Backfires While Military & Media Stage Cover-up http://www.alternativemedicine.com/digest/issue15/15700.shtml
End of references
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit

Flagstaff, AZ 700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-28-2001 07:40 PM
From Rolando:1/28/01 Here I go again. To conclude this day here is a link of post to Viewzone from a Serbian citizen which states that, during the NATO attack on KOSOVO in 1999, they had the same heavy cloud, no-rain, electric weather as we had during the USS SAIPAN visit: http://www.viewzone.com/serbiasky.html It corroborates my conclusions in USS SAIPAN article about USAF 2025 weather control and VTRPE radar technology being born prematurely: http://deepspace4.freeservers.com/pages/military/saipan/saipan.htm You can forward this to Mr. Carnicom if You think that it can be of use to him. Good night. 01-28-2001 IZAKOVIC CROATIA

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Deborah
Take It To The Limit

Flagstaff, AZ 700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-28-2001 09:49 PM
Additional research to support Rolando's submission of 1/28/01: 29 September 1998 - Serbia
HYPOCENTRE PARAMETERS Date: 1998/09/29 Origin Time: 22:14:49.7 UTC Latitude and Longitude: 44.194N 20.037E (NEIC) Depth: 10.0 km (NEIC) Magnitude: 5.1 ML Maximum Intensity: 8 (5 in Hungary) DISCUSSION The Serbia earthquake of 29 September had intensity about 8 at the epicentral area. One person died from a heart attack, 17 injured and damage in the Valjevo-Belgrade area, Yugoslavia. Felt in much of central Yugoslavia and in the Vidin area, Bulgaria. Also felt in the Sarajevo area, Bosnia and Herzegovina as well as in parts of Croatia, Hungary and Greece. The event produced reports of intensity 5 EMS from the border region in Hungary... http://georisk.seismology.hu/Bulletins/4.Significant/1998_09_29.html Odraz Radio B92
DAILY NEWS 30 SEPTEMBER 1998 EARTHQUAKE IN SERBIA BELGRADE, SERBIA. Thousands of Belgraders slept out of doors, mostly in cars, last night after an earthquake hit the city at about 12.15 am. The quake, which registered 6 degrees on the Mercali scale, was centred between Valjevo and Cacak, about 100 kms south of Belgrade, where it registered 8 degrees. ANEM reports that Valjevo residents were panic-struck, and that one person died of a heart attack. There were no other casualties. Sections of central Belgrade were left without power for about an hour after the earthquake. A number of older buildings suffered slight damage. http://www.suc.org/news/b92/archive/SEPTEMBER_30_1998.html SPECIAL REPORT
FAO/WFP CROP AND FOOD SUPPLY ASSESSMENT MISSION TO THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF YUGOSLAVIA (SERBIA AND MONTENEGRO) 10 August 2000 http://www.fao.org/WAICENT/faoinfo/economic/giews/english/alertes/2000/SRFRY80.htm FAS Online FEATURE COMMODITY ARTICLES
Eastern Europe: For 2000/01, Eastern Europe is forecast to produce 27.0 million tons of wheat, down 1.7 million tons or 6 percent from the lackluster 1999/00 crop. Harvested area is forecast at 8.6 percent, up 0.3 million hectares or 4 percent from last year's dismal season. Area planted to wheat increased in 2000/01 primarily for two reasons. Less oilseed area was planted (due to low market prices), and a repeat of last season's wet spring that ruined much of the winter crop area did not reoccur. A dry, late winter in the Balkans was the beginning of an extensive period with little rain. A severe drought has gripped the entire region throughout the spring and summer with some regions of the Balkans averaging only 20 percent of normal rainfall. The countries of Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary and the former Yugoslavia were subjected to the worst of the weather. In the north, Poland, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia have fared somewhat better with slightly lower temperatures and rainfall approaching up to 70 percent of normal. Although temperatures have averaged above normal throughout eastern Europe, the Balkans have set many records and have been consistently well above average... http://www.fas.usda.gov/wap/circular/2000/00-07/wap2.htm
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sedona
Senior Member
Sedona, AZ 86339 149 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-29-2001 10:03 PM
Good thing I knew this might happen. I see I am far behind the curve in this subject, but I am now picking myself up off the ground where I recently fell off the turnip truck. Listening to Dr. Scott on Jeff Rense, I have been convinced by his research that mad cow etc. was not naturally occurring after all, but a deliberate introduction into those tribes by Japanede bioweaponeers. Dr. Scott has quite a surprising list of bioengineered diseases: and quite good documentation to back it up.
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit

Flagstaff, AZ 700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-29-2001 10:59 PM
I see I am far behind the curve in this subject, but I am now picking myself up off the ground... This subject material is probably the toughest aspect of the Big Picture for me as I find it so inexpressibly disturbing. Paranoia? I don't think so. I actually break into a sweat reading and posting this stuff and am very grateful for the work of those who are braver than I am. There are certain cultural issues, such as incest, for example, which elicit from the majority of people an instantaneous gut response called, "We do not go there - not a good idea." This is the exact response I have to issue(s) involving interference with delicately interdependent processes at the molecular level for purposes of manipulating/controlling human behavior, health, reproduction, etc.
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