posted 03-17-2001 06:15 PM            

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posted 03-18-2001 12:05 AM            

This sucks.

Biologicals. No hoof and mouth here, as they are NOT desiccated blood cells but viral - something much different. Check your insides, your eyes, how you feel when you go out, how sick the people are...

...these are the indicators of just what those blood cells are doing inside our lungs, and noses, and eyes, and every damn place they can land and reconstitute with human mucuos/moisture.

posted 03-18-2001 03:01 AM            

It wouldn't surprise me therefore if someday in the future, we don't have another author like Len Horowitz tracing "Mad Cow" and "Hoof and Mouth" origins to a lab research facility somewhere...Bethesda MD, maybe??

posted 04-14-2001 02:58 PM            

Patricia Doyle
Foot-And-Mouth Disease, Why is the UK outbreak different?
Thu Apr 12 13:20:13 2001

Prologue:
Why would a top secret lab, Porton Downs, keep a benign virus, like simple FMD, in a biolevel 4 unit with SMALLPOX, EBOLA, ANTHRAX,
AND A VERY VIRULENT AND I BET ALTERED STRAIN OF TB? Why? FMD virus is usually kept in biolevel 3 unit.
So, why is this one, the one that had been stolen from this high security, top secret facility, so different that it must be kept in level 4 with
bioweapon pathogens? Have they discovered HOW to make FMD jump the species barrier?

....

I think that FMD outbreak in England is a field test.

posted 04-14-2001 04:47 PM            

I think you may be right IZAKOVIC. Makes one wonder.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by Lulu on 04-14-2001]

posted 04-16-2001 09:18 AM            

I'm not sure I agree with your millionth monkey concept, however. I don't want to be herded anywhere.

We have a bunch of people in my city who want to ban smoking in restaurants "for the children." They don't seem to have the concept that responsible parents don't take their kids to dangerous places. If a parent feels that putting their child in a smoke-filled environment is dangerous to the child, the parent will see to it that the child doesn't go there.

However, the smoke-free contingent feels that they have the right to impose their idea of healthful living on everybody else. They don't have to invest their own money in smoke-free restaurants--they just have to force the people who already own the restaurants to make all of them smoke-free.

posted 04-16-2001 11:26 AM            

Once again, I'm sorry, but it sounds as if your definition of peace and love may not exactly match my definition. I don't notice lots of mass murders happening at gun shows. Do you suppose gun control might be a facile answer to the problem of gun violence? My husband prescribes Ritalin (or drugs like it) to kids who really, truly have significant difficulty with neural executive function. Would you take that medication away from people who fall under the legal definition of "handicapped" [see IDEA and Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973]?

posted 04-16-2001 11:47 AM            

I agree %100 with you about the 'gun control' issue, thanks for bringing it up. Many people have been conned into thinking gun violence is a result of the 2nd ammendment. In a way it is because enemies to the U.S. are using it to destroy another part of our freedom. Taking away our right to keep and bear arms would amount to 'another brick in the wall' for a complete totalitarian form of goverment that some think we are destined to become a part of.

But I disagree on Ritalin usage. Why all of a sudden is there an epidmeic in ADA, diabetes and other diseases? Chemtrails, food additives?

In my opinion, the FDA is one of the biggest frauds perpetrated by the Shadow Govt and should be examined and dismantled in favor of a fair and legitimate organization that is truly interested in the welfare of U.S. citizens.

posted 04-16-2001 06:24 PM            

Sorry if I sound too opinionated, I think the system is geared to keep us at odds, everywhere you look it seems we're inundated with points, counterpoints etc... Sometimes the world is just a 'ball of confusion'. (remember that tune, anyone over 30, or 40?)

The mass media is constantly injecting us with opinions and ideas....I'm way too into it lately, I think.

posted 04-17-2001 10:04 AM            

Here are two quick answers to your previous questions. I am not giving you the last word on either topic, but rather some aspects of both issues which you might not have considered.

The risk factors for Type II (Adult Onset) Diabetes include age, trunkal obesity, and lack of exercise. All of those are increasing in the U.S. population, so an increase in Type II diabetes would not necessarily be surprising.

It is possible that the perceived increase in incidence of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) has to do with societal changes. To use an example, my grandfather only finished the third grade because he was an intelligent man and didn't need more than basic reading, writing and arithmetic to be a successful dairy farmer at that time. If he had had ADHD, nobody would have noticed it--he wasn't in school for very many years, and attentional focus isn't a vital aspect of milking cows.

However, if he had lived today, mandatory attendance laws would have kept him in school until he was at least 16. If he had had ADHD, it would have been recognized and very likely it would have been treated because he could not have performed successfully in an academic environment without it. Once he had finished school and the pressure to meet academic expectations was removed, he would have been able to discontinue his medication and spend the rest of his life on the farm.

posted 04-17-2001 12:31 PM            

quote:

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Here is the story of the Hundredth Monkey:

The Japanese monkey, Macaca fuscata, has been observed in the wild for a period of over 30 years.

In 1952, on the island of Koshima scientists were providing monkeys with sweet potatoes dropped in the sand. The monkeys liked the taste of the raw sweet potatoes, but they found the dirt unpleasant.

An 18-month-old female named Imo found she could solve the problem in a nearby stream. She taught this trick to her mother. Her playmates also learned this new way and they taught their mothers, too.

This cultural innovation was gradually picked up by various monkeys before the eyes of the scientists.

Between 1952 and 1958, all the young monkeys learned to wash the sandy sweet potatoes to make them more palatable.

Only the adults who imitated their children learned this social improvement. Other adults kept eating the dirty sweet potatoes.

Then something startling took place. In the autumn of 1958, a certain number of Koshima monkeys were washing sweet potatoes — the exact number is not known.

Let us suppose that when the sun rose one morning there were 99 monkeys on Koshima Island who had learned to wash their sweet potatoes.

Let's further suppose that later that morning, the hundredth monkey learned to wash potatoes.

THEN IT HAPPENED!

By that evening almost everyone in the tribe was washing sweet potatoes before eating them.

The added energy of this hundredth monkey somehow created an ideological breakthrough!

But notice.

A most surprising thing observed by these scientists was that the habit of washing sweet potatoes then jumped over the sea —

Colonies of monkeys on other islands and the mainland troop of monkeys at Takasakiyama began washing their sweet potatoes!*

(*Lifetide by Lyall Watson, pp. 147-148. Bantam Books 1980. This book gives other fascinating details.)

Thus, when a certain critical number achieves an awareness, this new awareness may be communicated from mind to mind.

Although the exact number may very, the Hundredth Monkey Phenomenon means that when only a limited number of people know of a new way, it may remain the consciousness property of these people.

But there is a point at which if only one more person tunes-in to a new awareness, a field is strengthened so that this awareness is picked up by almost everyone!

Your awareness is needed in saving the world from nuclear war.

You may be the "Hundredth Monkey" . . . .

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Mass conciousness is real...visualizing World Peace is better than visualizing Whirrled Peas.

posted 04-17-2001 08:10 PM            

I didn't even know you had a website. How do I get there? Even if we have different opinions on the 2nd Ammendment, I'm sure it's a worthwhile effort judging from your posts.

(I see 60 minutes has more about Columbine tonite, maybe some of that ice maybe thawing?... or just a different spin. Wonder if they'll even mention Ritalin? but maybe that was a different shooting?)

3T3L1

I don't even want to go there about diabetes and the medical profession. Diabetes increase is really evident in lower income neghborhoods which is partly due to your explanation and probably related to diet of junk food and food additives. Remember cylcamates they were using in diet sodas in the 60's discovered to cause cancer, then it was sacharrin..also found to cause cancer in the 70's and more recently it's aspartame/Nutrasweet (lots of websites about this Monsanto nightmare).

There is a totally natural sweetener called Stevia a white powder found in China and South America that the FDA has tried to suppress because they have become an arm of the pharmaceutical industry. That's just one example. Also a doctor in Houston has great success in treating cancer has been harrassed by the FDA and their attnys.

FDA has suppressed the concept of food allergies that is taken for granted in Europe. Food allergies and chemicals found in food additives may cause things like diabetes, cancer, schizophrenia, multiple-sclerosis, etc. but the average American has never been educated about the wide range of food allergies. The evidence is out there.

This gets into a subject that will really upset anyone in the medical profession because they've been trained a certain way for decades. I feel strongly that there is a lot of suppression going on through organizations like the AMA and FDA, but I don't want to try to convince you or shake up your belief system since your husband is a doctor. I don't mean to slam all doctors or anything like that, and like everything else, its just my opinion. There are plenty of websites about medical deception, phamaceutical crimes, links to I.G. Farben. Others can explain it all much beter than me. I have a good friend who does medical research and she says that people here in the states and worldwide are aware of the medical fleecing of Americans. Maybe the millionth monkey will wake America up to the injustices there?

I've come to believe that the medical system here in U.S. especially needs exposure and cleaning up. We are ranked below most of the free world countries because the phamaceutical industry along with their advertising has run amuck(?). Hospitals and the med profession in many cases here are all about TREATING illness and not CURING it. Pharmauetical companies would be out of business if diseases were cured. Hospitals make money off sick people, not healthy people. Its like the criminal justice system needs crime and crooked judges and attnys to stay in business. But it's like institutionalized crime, deception for the sake of profit. And the instigators are high in the chain of TPTB.

It's a group thing, not pointed at individual doctors like your husband. Most people (in my opinion) are not aware of this kind of thing, but thats a huge can of worms.

Thermit

Hope the hundredth monkey theory is true, I'm not familiar with that group consciousness idea, but I've heard of a the concept of 'critical mass' where a secret can't be kept indefinitely, and eventually crumbles when enough people are clued into the reality of the secret (or lie).