posted 09-28-2001 02:02 AM
This just in from a northen light souce
here we go again~"Who Benefits
from the World Trade Center/Pentagon Attacks?
Who Benefits? That's always the first question to consider when a "terrorist" attack occurs. Instead of clenching one's fist, waving one's flag and shouting vindictive slogans, let's just stop for a moment of calm analysis of the basic facts. When we analyze who benefits, we immediately will know with over 99% surety, who did it!
What was the tone of U.S. and world opinion just a week or two before the attacks?
In the U.S., the economy was lagging badly, the stock market was falling, many were questioning if the government's taxes were legal, the Gary Condit case had been poorly handled, people continued to question Waco and the Oklahoma City bombing, they questioned our support of Israel in her policies regarding the Palestinians, and the approval rate of President Bush was low.
What about World Opinion? Just 8 days before the WTC/Pentagon attacks, Israel was stunned by a UN decision equating Zionism with Racism, according to Ha'aretz Daily.com.
Israel was branded a "racist apartheid" state by thousands of non-governmental organizations (NGOs) attending a U.N. World Conference Against Racism in Durban, South Africa. The conference was attended by representatives of 153 governments.
The declaration, adopted by 3,000 NGOs in 44 regional and interest-based caucuses, shocked Jewish groups.
Foreign Minister Shimon Peres called the anti-Israel declarations a disgrace, and said that Israel was "seriously" contemplating withdrawing from the conference in protest. The Israeli delegation to the conference blasted the language of the NGO declaration as an incitement to hatred of Jews.
Jewish delegates walked out. The U.S. delegates followed.
The Forum accused the Jewish state of "systematic perpetration of racist crimes including war crimes, acts of genocide and ethnic cleansing" in its treatment of the Palestinians.
In addition, the head of the Danish Red Cross, Freddy Karup Pederson, told the Danish Parliamentary Foreign Affairs Committee that the lifestyle of Jewish settlers in the Palestinian territories resembles that of whites under the former racist apartheid system. He also criticized Israel's collective punishment of the Palestinian population.
So, just 8 days before the attacks, the overwhelming attitude of the nations of the world was against Israel's policies and in support of the Arab countries' charges against Israel, a nation heavily supported by, and allied with, the U.S.
What has happened to U.S. and World Opinion
SINCE the attacks?
Immediately AFTER the attack, public opinion was turned 180 degrees. Now the Arab countries are being demonized, the U.S. population is overwhelmingly backing the President (according to the Washington Post), urging him to punish, kill, destroy, annihilate the perpetrators of this crime, even though no one really has any proof who did it, the U.S. government is preparing for war, the U.S. and Israel have carte blanche support to bomb nearly every Arab country out of existence.
No one is questioning anymore the "apartheid" policies of the Israelis against the Palestinians. War, as politicians have known throughout history, stimulates the economy and (if the propaganda is handled properly) unifies the population behind the President and squelches ALL criticism.
Anyone who is not 100% behind the President is considered a traitor. President Bush in a televised Speech to Congress, urged global support for his war on terrorists, warning the world: "either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." (Washington AFP) 9-21-01 (An effective way to stifle all dissent!)
If you don't go along with the plan for destruction of the Arabs advocated by the government, you become the target of threats and must have bodyguards, as California Democrat Barbara Lee has discovered. She cast the lone vote in Congress against the use of military force in response to the WTC/Pentagon attacks and now must have Police guarding her Capitol Hill office. (Reuters, AP, ABCNEWS.com
9-18-01)
What ELSE has happened since the attacks?
1) The population has been prepared for a long term war where the number of U.S. casualties will be high (Washington Post Online September 21, 2001).
2) Bush creates a High Office of "Homeland Security" supposedly to protect Americans from attack. The job would involve coordination of government-wide domestic security efforts, including meshing domestic FBI and foreign CIA intelligence, working with U.S. military, emergency officials and state and local governments.
The Homeland Defense position "would probably not need Senate confirmation, which other Cabinet jobs require, nor legislation to create" White House officials said. So there would be no investigation, oversight nor accountability for this person. (Reuters - Washington 9-21-01) (Perfect conditions to appoint a crony)
3) U.S. orders 40 million doses of smallpox vaccine for $343 million in preparation for a possible bioterrorism assault. The contract has been given to a small, Cambridge-based firm, Acambis, a British biotechnology company who reported a net loss of $8 million in the six months prior to June 30, unchanged from last year. (How convenient to get this huge order! It would be interesting to find out the conflict of interest issues here.) (Reuters News, London 9-20-01) PREPARING THE POPULATION TO EXPECT BIO-TERRORISM.
4) "America and Britain are producing secret plans to launch a ten year "war on terrorism" - Operation Noble Eagle - involving a completely new military and diplomatic strategy to eliminate terrorist networks and cells around the world." (The Times - London 9-20-01)
5) The Senate OKs FBI Spying on the Internet: FBI agents soon will be able to spy on Internet users legally without a court order. Two days after the terrorist attack, the Senate approved the "Combating Terrorism Act of 2001" which enhances police wiretap powers and permits monitoring in more situations. The FBI's surveillance system is called Carnivore. (Lycos Network 9-20-01) MORE CONTROL!
6) The U.S. Plans to overthrow Taliban and put Afghanistan under UN Control, according to The Guardian - London (9-21-01) NOTE: Yugoslavia is ALREADY under UN control. (MORE UN CONTROL)
7) A global surveillance system known as Echelon exists and has the ability to eavesdrop on telephone calls, faxes and e-mail messages, a European Parliament committee has concluded. (Lycos Network 9-20-01) MORE CONTROL!
8) Face-ID Technology gains new support. "State lawmakers who were planning to sponsor legislation restricting its use now say they are reassessing their plans." MORE CONTROL! (Denver Post Capitol Bureau, 9-20-01)
9) "Experts See a High-Security America of Surveillance & Seizures": New York: Security Experts in the United States are describing a new kind of country that could emerge, where electronic identification might become the norm, immigrants might be tracked far more closely and the airspace over cities like New York and Washington might be off-limits to all civilian aircraft." (The International Herald Tribune 9-19-01) MORE SURVEILLANCE OF U.S. CITIZENS.
10) "Lawmakers See Need to Loosen Rules on CIA" Congressional leaders who oversee the nation's intelligence system have concluded that America's spy agencies should be allowed to combat terrorism with more aggressive tactics, including the hiring of unsavory foreign agents, including revived discussion of reversing the US 25 year ban on using covert agents to assassinate foreigners. R. James Woolsey, the former director of the CIA said that "Washington has absolutely undergone a sea change in thinking this week." (New York Times, 9-16-01) MORE SURVEILLANCE OF U.S. CITIZENS!
11) NATO Announces a Third World War is Almost Upon Us. A pentagon spokesman hinted towards potential targets being Libya, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, North Korea, Syria and others. (NATO Secretary-General Lord Robertson)
12) California Congresswoman, Mary Bono, R-Palm Springs warned that the country should prepare for a fight against international terrorists that will likely include personal sacrifice, the use of ground troops overseas and the risk of retaliation against civilians by the enemy. She also predicts intense scrutiny of airline passengers, a national system of fingerprinting and identification cards and the specter of chemical and biological attacks on the U.S. (The Desert Sun 9-18-01)
13) An enemy is needed to justify a $344 Billion War Budget, when the federal government currently spends only $42 billion on education, $26 billion on affordable housing and $1 billion on school construction.
14) President Bush sent his anti-terrorism bill to Congress one week after the WTC/Pentagon attack, launching an emotional debate that will force U.S. politicians to choose between continued freedom for Americans or greater security. (Lycos Network 9-20-01) DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES TO WRITE ONE OF THESE BILLS? IT TAKES MONTHS! They are hundreds of pages long. THIS ONE WAS OBVIOUSLY WRITTEN BEFORE THE ATTACK! How convenient! Wake up America!
15) "President George Bush focused his energy on building a GLOBAL ALLIANCE for a fight against terrorism..." (MSNBC 9-18-01) Here comes the New World Order!
16) Fast-Moving House Bill Restricts Liberties - Much of it Unrelated to Terrorism! Congress is being asked to rush to pass emergency anti-terrorist legislation written by the Department of Justice, but much of the legislation turns out to have nothing to do with fighting terrorism. Instead, the legislation contains a host of items which have been on the bureaucratic wish lists for many years.
17) "We Must Ignore the Peace Lobby and Show No Restraint" says The Independent - London (9-24-01)
18) Bush Suspends Habeas Corpus: Legal Immigrants May Be Held Without Cause: "The Bush Administration today announced it is using its powers under the National Emergency Act to suspend the right of Habeas Corpus for all immigrants in the country, including legal immigrants, meaning that any immigrant in the U.S. right now can be held INDEFINITELY by the police or government WITHOUT TRIAL OR DEMONSTRATION OF CAUSE TO HOLD THEM."
Though no one has yet suggested infringing the rights of U.S. citizens, the move is a frightening first step to a national tyranny, based on perpetual suspension of the Constitution in the name of fighting perpetual war."
19) President Bush has agreed to bail out the airlines with BILLIONS of dollars, an industry that was swimming in red ink LONG BEFORE the WTC/Pentagon attacks.
What was known BEFORE the attack -
and by whom?
1) Echelon Gave Authorities 3 Month Warning of Attacks - German Paper: Frankfurt, Germany - U.S. and Israeli intelligence agencies received warning signals at least three months ago that terrorists were planning to hijack commercial aircraft to use as weapons to attack important symbols of American culture, according to a story in Germany's daily Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeiung (FAZ). Newsbytes.com
2) U.S. planned to attack Taliban BEFORE WTC/Pentagon Attacks: A former Pakistani diplomat has told the BBC that the U.S. was planning military action against Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban even before last week's attacks. Niaz Naik, a former Pakistani Foreign Secretary, was told by senior American officials in mid-July that military action against Afghanistan would go ahead by the middle of October. (BBC News 9-18-01)
3) Expert - Russia Knew In Advance...Encouraged Citizens to Cash Out Dollars:
Russian press accounts and other activities by the Russian government this summer indicate that the Russians knew in advance that something would happen to America, including a "financial attack" against the U.S. During the past three months, Russian media and officials have encouraged citizens to cash out of U.S. dollars pending an economic collapse there after an "attack." (NewsMax.com 9-17-01)
4) FBI tracked man in custody 2 weeks before attacks: "Two weeks before the terrorist attacks in New York City and Washington, D.C., FBI agents were at a flight school in Oklahoma asking questions about a man now suspected of having a link to those attacks", according to CNN.
"The fact that FBI agents were at the Airman Flight School in Norman, Oklahoma, two weeks before any attacks would seem to contradict the agency's assertion that it was not aware of any connection between aviation schools and suspected terrorists. FBI Director Robert Mueller has stated publicly, "There were NO warning signs that I'm aware of that would indicate this type of operation in the country," (CNN.com 9-18-01) SOMEBODY IS LYING!
5) U.S. Pulled Plug on 500 Arab/Muslim Websites the Day BEFORE Jetliner Attacks: Five hundred websites - many of them with an Arab or Muslim connection - crashed when an anti-terrorism task force raided InfoCom Corporation in Texas. The 80-strong task force that descended upon the IT company included FBI agents, Secret Service agents, Diplomatic Security agents, tax inspectors, immigration officials, customs officials, department of commerce officials and computer experts. (Brian Whitaker 9-12-01)
6) U.S. was warned in 1995 of plot to hijack planes, attack buildings: The FBI was warned six years ago of a terrorist plot to hijack commercial planes and slam them into the Pentagon, The CIA headquarters and other buildings, Philippine investigators told CNN. The plan was termed Project Bojinka. (Manila, Philippines CNN 9-18-01)
7) "U.S. Government Had Prior Knowledge of Emergency: The most massive so-called "terrorist" attacks on U.S. soil since the Oklahoma City bombings of 1995, were known, a week ahead of time, by the American CIA. Among the foreign intelligence agencies who penetrated the plots were the French CIA and Israel's The Mossad, units of both often working with one another.
"Foreign intelligence sources confirm the validity of this story. And they state that they informed the U.S. secret police who absolutely failed, neglected, and outright refused to take action as to known prior specifics of which the top-level of the CIA were informed in advance." (www.skolnicksreport.com 9-13-01) HOW INTERESTING!
8) Spy in the White House? "Terrorists" had Ultra Secret Codes on 911: (DEBKA Intelligence Files 9-22-01)
9) More Unusual Market Activity Reported BEFORE Attacks: "Chicago traders on Wednesday cited unusual activity in airline options up to a month before attacks on U.S. landmarks, and German bankers reported brisk activity in reinsurer Munich Re shares, adding to speculation that those behind the attacks tried to profit from their acts. (Reuters 9-20-01)
So how come EVERYONE else knew this was going to happen? Why would the U.S. refuse to investigate when told, unless it was their own plan all along?
BIG CLUE!!
Why did the Towers IMPLODE instead of EXPLODE?
The towers came down as gracefully as a fountain of water. "Too methodical to be a chance result of airplanes colliding with the structures" said Van Romero, vice president for research at New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology.
"My opinion is that after the airplanes hit the World Trade Center there were some explosive devices inside the buildings that caused the towers to collapse," Romero said. Romero is a former director of the Energetic Materials Research and Testing Center at Tech, which studies explosive materials and the effects of explosions on buildings, aircraft and other structures.
The Towers IMPLODED! They did NOT explode! A fuel fire causes an EXplosion, not an IMplosion. Explosions explode OUT. Implosions, implode IN!
IMPLOSIONS can ONLY occur with immense planning by a highly skilled group of craftsmen educated in the unique skill of demolishing buildings by strategically placing explosive devices within the building. This requires many experts, much time and significant access to the building beforehand.
The skill of implosion of buildings was developed primarily to demolish buildings in areas of high building density, so the destruction of the structure will not cause damage to the surrounding buildings.
In addition, the towers came down long after the planes struck. To suggest that fuel dumping from the airplanes caused a fire hot enough to melt the inner structure is ludicrous.
First of all, who can prove the planes dumped all of their fuel into the core of the building?
Second, why did the fuel take so long to catch fire?
Third, fuel-fires cause EXplosions, NOT IMplosions!
Fourth, the structure was built to withstand temperatures of 2000 degrees Fahrenheit, according to the architect and designer of the building, a man who is now deceased, but who preserved this nugget of information in an interview he recorded in 1998.
Hyman Brown, a University of Colorado civil engineering professor and the World Trade Center's construction manager, watched in confusion as the towers came down. "It was over-designed to withstand almost anything including hurricanes, high winds, bombings and an airplane hitting it," he said. (Scripps Howard News Service 9-11,01 and 9-12-01)
So, why was it necessary to implode the whole structure? To eliminate evidence, just as was done to the Murrah building in Oklahoma City, before the forensic specialists could get in to examine the evidence.
Just like the Branch Davidian compound at Waco was bulldozed by the government before any evidence could be examined.
Conclusion: This was a highly skilled endeavor by a large group of well-trained people with access to the buildings, the airplanes and the explosives. They would have had to blend into the population and not look suspicious.
Question: Who would have these qualifications? Certainly not a large group of Arab "terrorists"!
Where are the "Indestructible" Black Boxes?
All four Black Boxes were supposedly destroyed and rendered unusable in spite of the fact that they are designed specifically for plane crashes which result in insurmountable conditions. In fact there are reported to be TWO Black Boxes on each plane, but apparently ALL EIGHT of the Black Boxes are completely destroyed.
Strange indeed!
ABC News Reports: The Black Box is "ALMOST INDESTRUCTIBLE. IT IS DESIGNED TO WITHSTAND HEAT OF UP TO 2,000 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT FOR ONE HOUR, salt water for at least 30 days, immersion in a variety of liquids such as jet fuel and lubricants, AND AN IMPACT OF 3,400 G's. By comparison, astronauts are typically exposed to up to six Gs during a shuttle takeoff."
Yet CNN reported that "In New York, several blocks from the ruins of the World Trade Center, a passport authorities said belonged to one of the hijackers was discovered a few days ago, according to city Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik."
The paper passport apparently survived intact!
The "indestructible Black Boxes were destroyed!
Hmmm!
Who Has Claimed Responsibility?
Within HOURS after the attack the U.S. was aggressively touting Osama bin Laden as the "terrorist" responsible for this dastardly deed. As one writer to a popular website noted, "I find it laughable that the agency notorious for its inability to find a bleeding elephant in a snowbank suddenly (within hours of the attack) has the culprit pinpointed!"
The media continuously whips up the public to indiscriminate hatred of almost any Arab. On radio, on TV, in the newspapers and in magazines, all one hears or reads is HATE towards Osama bin Laden, or any other Muslim. The Globe, a well-known grocery store rag, contains pictures of Osama Bin Laden with rifle "cross-hairs" targeted over his face and a soldier in fatigues pointing an automatic rifle at his head. Yet these same media outlets pompously demand the elimination of "hate!"
It is USUAL and CUSTOMARY for Terrorist groups to claim responsibility for an attack. Yet no such claim has been made.
Osama bin Laden says he didn't do it. "We have been blamed in the past, but we were not involved," he said. (The Guardian - London 9-17-01)
"Egyptian President Mubarak still has not seen bin Laden proof," according to a Paris AFP report. "Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak says he has not seen any proof of Osama bin Laden being "the brains" behind the terrorist attacks on the United States and warns Washington against over-hasty reprisals, in a newspaper interview published on 9-24-01.
Saddam Hussein, in a letter to the American People noted that "when the event took place, Arab rulers and the rulers of countries whose religions is Islam, rushed to condemn the event." (Iraqi News Agency 916-01)
There are even reports that Osama bin Laden has been, and may still now be, an operative of the U.S. CIA.
And now, according to The Washington Post (9-25-01), The U.S. is now "Unsure" of Going Public with the "Proof" of Osama bin Laden's responsibility for the "terrorist" attack. With the U.S. public, and other nations, demanding proof, the Bush administration is hiding behind the cloak of "National Security."
Secretary of State Colin Powell promised that the U.S. "soon" would "put out a paper. . that will describe quite clearly the evidence that we have linking" bin Laden to the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon. But Rep. Porter Goss (R-Fla), chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, said that the administration cannot present its full case "without revealing some sources and methods that we would not want to reveal." HOW INTERESTING AND CONVENIENT FOR THEM!
Now Let's Consider -
Are There Other Countries, besides the Arabs,
who have ever been involved in terrorism?
According to the Washington Report, "In 1967 on the fourth day of the Six Day War, the armed forces of Israel attacked the American intelligence ship USS Liberty for 90 minutes in international waters in broad daylight following several hours of close, low-level reconnaissance. Thirty-four men died, 171 were hurt, and the ship was so badly damaged that it had to be scrapped.
The government of Israel has lied about the circumstances ever since, telling a story markedly different from that told by American survivors. Congress has refused to question Israel's demonstrably false account.
Why would Israel risk alienating its American friends? Why did Israel attack?
According to eyewitness accounts by Israeli officers and journalists, the Israeli Army executed as many as 1,000 Arab prisoners during the 1967 war. Historian Gabby Bron wrote in the Yediot Ahronot in Israel that he witnessed Israeli troops executing Egyptian prisoners on the morning of June 8, 1967, in the Sinai town of El Arish, including about 150 Egyptian POWs. They made the prisoners dig their own graves then they were shot as they stood at the edge of the grave.
As those executions were underway, America's most sophisticated intelligence platform, USS Liberty, was less than 13 miles from El Arish, close enough to see the town mosque with the naked eye. With binoculars one could make out individual buildings and might have seen the executions if one had looked in the right place.
The attack on the USS Liberty lasted 75 minutes. It was not brief nor accidental as Israel claims. The Israelis wantonly destroyed life rafts in the water and they jammed international radio distress frequencies while Americans, who might have been saved, died!
The United States is no stranger to perpetrating acts of terrorism against other countries. The U.S. bombed Iraq unmercifully during the Gulf War. Thousands of private citizens were slaughtered. Then a deadly embargo was put in place to destroy them slowly by illness and starvation. What was the crime of the common people?
The U.S. CIA has also been involved in covert wars all over the globe, raping and pillaging entire economies of Central American and other countries.
In addition, the U.S. is not above turning on its own citizens with vengeance.
FDR Knew About Pearl Harbor: John Flynn made a sound case for Roosevelt's foreknowledge in 1946, the historian Charles Beard confirmed it in 1948 with his book FDR and the Coming of the War 1941. John Toland told the story in Infamy in the early 1980s, and John Stinnett followed with Day of Deceit. They all understood FDR's manipulation of, and complicity in, the attack on Pearl Harbor. It was done to incite the U.S. citizens to hate the Japanese and push them to support the U.S. entry into World War II.
And it worked beautifully! Americans willingly gave their own lives and the lives of their sons to fight a war that had nothing to do with them.
FDR knew in advance of the attack on Pearl Harbor. Not only did he refuse to stop it, he encouraged it by his manipulative treatment of Japan prior to the attack, and his stationing of ships in the Hawaiian port, an easy target for the Japanese. (Antiwar.com)
It worked magnificently then - and it is working magnificently now!
Other acts of violence that must be considered are: The Randy Weaver family killings by the U.S. government in Idaho, the Waco horror where the U.S. shot, bulldozed and set on fire its own citizens, and the Oklahoma bombing, where there is abundant information pointing to U.S. Government involvement .
Why would a government plan an attack its own citizens, while blaming another?
What would it have to gain?
The answer is: EVERYTHING!
Go back and review what has happened
SINCE the attack:
The U.S. Government has dramatically increased its control over the American population while destroying the rights of the people, a situation necessary for the takeover of the U.S. and eventually, all other countries, by the New World Order to be run by the United Nations. And they're doing it with the citizens' complete support.
"The President has the power to seize property, organize and control the means of production, seize commodities, assign military forces abroad, call reserve forces amounting to 2 1/2 million men to duty, institute martial law, seize and control all means of transportation, regulate all private enterprise, restrict travel, and in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of ALL Americans...While the danger of a dictatorship arising through legal means may seem remote to us today..."
--A Joint Statement by Senators Frank Church (D-ID) and Charles McMathias (R-MD) September 30, 1973. HOW PROPHETIC!
A SURE ROAD TO DICTATORSHIP!
U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft Seeks Sweeping Powers!
"The United States will remain vulnerable to terrorist attacks unless law enforcement agencies are given a wide range of new counterterrorism tools, including improved wiretap capabilities and easier access to voice mail and Internet user's personal information, Attorney General John Ashcroft told lawmakers Monday." (MSNBC
9-25-01)
A third of New Yorkers support internment camps (concentration camps) for "individuals who authorities identify as being sympathetic to terrorist causes," according to a poll form the Siena College Research Institute. (Newsday.com 9-25-01) (Remember that President Bush has said that if you don't support the U.S. government 100% in their handling of this situation - - - YOU ARE SIDING WITH THE TERRORISTS!)
Public Opinion has overwhelming turned from support for the Arabs and against Israel, to supporting Israel and their ally, the U.S. and hatred against the Arab countries.
And now the U.S. has the support of the entire nation, and much of the world, for its unrestrained unleashing of vengeance on ANY and EVERY Arab nation.
But it's not surprising that the U.S. and Israel are the ONLY countries where the majority backs a military strike (Reuters 9-22-01).
From Stern.Intel: Israeli Mossad Links to World Trade Center Attack: "A U.S. military intelligence source revealed details of an internal intelligence memo that points to the Israeli Mossad intelligence service having links to the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks...
"The attacks have certainly turned U.S. public opinion firmly back in Israel's favor after eleven months of Palestinian uprising, heavy criticism of Israel over war crimes allegations and racism by a UN conference in Durban."
Lebanese Druze Leader Believes CIA, Mossad Responsible for U.S. Attacks! Lebanon's anti-Syrian Druze leader Walid Jumblatt believes the CIA and Israel's secret service Mossad are behind the terrorist attacks in the United States, and that Saudi extremist Osama bin Laden is an "American agent," newspaper reports said. (Beirut AFP 9-15-01)
Fake Terror has been the Road to Dictatorship
for thousands of years.
It's the oldest trick in the book, dating back to Roman times.
Create the enemies you need!
A wise philosopher has unveiled the irony of it all: "To restore our freedom, we will need to be deprived of it. To recover from senseless murder, we will need to perpetrate more of it," or so says the President.
So, Who's Responsible?
The Answer is: Who Benefits?
You figure it out!
Note: If all of this is discouraging to you, there is a Bright Side. Human governments ARE NOT MEANT to work well. They will ALL fail. To find the Bright Side, study the other topics on this website:
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