posted 04-02-2001 03:07 PM            

Bankin' and yankin', the whole while. good work.

There is nothing like 2 Falcons, bristling with the latest electronics and air weaponry! Thank you. What a treat!!!

First pass: afterburners, which pulled me out (good idea)
the next four, low and slow: again very nice, dead over.
Last pass: afterburners and wow!

I'm thrilled. I didn't know I rated so highly. I could see the pilots. Did your electronics pod get good photos? Post 'em, I want to see what I look like from 1000ft.

posted 04-02-2001 03:26 PM            

I mean it. Send me some of the pictures. I would like to have them. Really. I will be nice to you if you do...

posted 04-02-2001 04:04 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by nsasucks:
Or go hang out at Nellis, probably where these babies (or Edwards) came from.

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I don't fly out of Edwards or Nellis.

I live in and fly out of New Mexico. I have no idea where you live. You obviously live somewhere near an airport to be underneath the traffic pattern.

As the airspace manager of my squadron, I would occasionally get phone calls from farmers out in the country about us flying over their house. After I would get a call, I'd mark the farmer's house with a red dot on our charts. In turn, the maps on our mission planning computers would get the same treatment. These red dots are "no fly zones" and are to be avoided at all costs. Just us doing our part to be courteous neighbors. This has been our policy for a long time.

No, it wasn't me, or anybody that I know that was "harassing" you. And no offense, but you are not worth spending a lot of flight time and a lot of "dinosaurs" (gas) on to merely fly over your house. Hell, I'm not worth that, either. None of us are.

Maverick

posted 04-02-2001 04:12 PM            

Folks. This was a treat. I feel honored. And the wave from the pilot was an especially nice touch.

I remember watching Phantoms coming and going all the live long day as a kid (that mil life again) but f4s just don't have the same character as an F16.

posted 04-02-2001 04:33 PM            

Tell Yo! Jamal to process the photos and be sure to call the local air base. If there was no good reason for the planes to be there, then these guys will be in a bit of trouble, I guarantee it. I've seen it before. A pilot in my squadron was grounded for the rest of his career after an incident that was a lot milder than the one that you describe. A Wing Commander will have ZERO tolerance for any of his pilots taking his jets out and breaking AF regs. It doesn't happen often, but the brass loves to make examples out of idiots who disregard the rules. Also, be sure Yo! Jamal writes a letter to the local newspaper as well. Provide a copy of the photo, too. You'll definitely get to the bottom of this if the letter is published. Public Affairs hates to have bad press.

Nice detective work, NSASucks. I'm glad that you know it wasn't me. I've got a '79 Monte Carlo that I'm sure you'll look great in. Want to take it for a test drive?

Maverick

posted 04-03-2001 01:40 PM            

Let the attacks begin. I think the most appropriate thing to do, is what I and a few others are already doing:

Every time these two post, we find articles and research that relate chemtrails to the military and post them everywhere. This way, we use their continuing charade of duplicity just like they deserve.

posted 04-03-2001 01:42 PM            

did you miss me?

posted 04-03-2001 01:55 PM            

Did you catch Rush today, by the way? Amazing how us women can't get the hang of geometry.

posted 04-03-2001 02:03 PM            

One more slur, profanity, veiled vulgarity or other violation of the rules and that will be your last post.

posted 04-03-2001 02:14 PM            

How come they can say all that and they don't get any warnings. Have you read their insults, slurs, etc?

posted 04-03-2001 02:18 PM            

well i missed you. by the way, i am a big Rush fan also but i didnt caatch his show today.

once again, i dont carry a camera with me when i fly. i am not here to prove or disprove anything. if i can provide any insight or answers then fine, if not, fine. if you dont want to believe pilots, thats fine also. if you want to believe that you can't see anything with clarity from 38 miles away that is your choice. you would be wrong but thats your choice. even if i showed you a picture of a contrail from the flight deck of a far off contrail and then showed you a pic of the TCAS showing the range to the aircraft, you would still claim that i rigged it somehow. (how can i prove that the TCAS screen shot is related to the contrail photo? i cant) so believe what you want.

posted 04-03-2001 02:28 PM            

Dirk, you write, "even if i showed you a picture of a contrail from the flight deck of a far off contrail and then showed you a pic of the TCAS showing the range to the aircraft, you would still claim that i rigged it somehow."

Nope. I promise right here in front of Thermit and everybody that if you show me a picture of a 38-or-so-miles-away contrail from the flight deck and then show me a pic of the TCAS which you say shows the range to the contrail (or the aircraft right next to it), I WILL BELIEVE YOU.

I'm not kidding about paying for the disposable 35 mm camera and scanning the pix for you when they come back. Deal?

posted 04-03-2001 02:37 PM            

first of all, your "little foray" into geometry didnt prove anything. let me make one last point on this, in order for the contrail in the photo to be 38 miles away, it would have to be at 35,000 ft. correct?

ok, if the contrail was at 23,000 ft then how far away would it be? alot closer than 38 miles. do you get my point? you do understand that contrails can also form in the low 20's ? so in the end all you "proved" was that this photo MIGHT show a contrail 38 miles away. even if this assumption (one of many) is correct it still doesnt mean anything.

if you want to buy me a camera, that is fine. my daughters birthday is coming up. that is more worthwhile for me than taking pictures of perfectly normal contrails.

posted 04-03-2001 02:39 PM            

You mean to say, no one appreciates the fine humor of Sam Kinison or Dice? Who woulda thunk it?

posted 04-03-2001 04:14 PM            

since you are so fired up for me to do your investigation for you, i guess i can count on you to provide me with all those "low-level" chemtrail photos i have been searching for. you know the one's i am talking about, the trails at 500 or 1000 feet over the ground.(sorry mark, this doesnt include your little pic).
and since you havent posted any, i will assume that they do not exist.

thanks for confirming that for me 3T3.

by the way, did you use marks magical formula to figure out how far the trail would be in mark sky's photo if its altitude was only 23,000 ft?

posted 04-04-2001 12:01 AM            

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Originally posted by nsasucks:
Thermit:

How come they can say all that and they don't get any warnings. Have you read their insults, slurs, etc?

What up?

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NSASucks-

Once again, I'll ask you to back up yet another of your claims. Please show us all my insults, slurs, etc.

Wait, I'll do it for you. Here's one of them:
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000012.html

I also can't provide any of NSASucks' insults and my replies from Carnicom's site because NSA's posts were so hateful and derogatory that Cliff erased them. Does the phrase "baby killer" ring a bell, NSA? Clue: it wasn't me who said that.

Your turn.

Maverick

posted 04-04-2001 02:06 AM            

Gee Mr. Falcon pilot, I wouldn't dream of reacting to your taunts, because I have been pistol whipped into online submission. I see the light and realize there are NO chemtrails. It was just my magination. There have allways been lines in the sky. Always. What could I have been thinking. Now, like you advised me to do in the freeform section, I will blow up my rubber doll and hit on my crack pipe, as per your instructions.

posted 04-07-2001 05:22 PM            

Just had a flyover of some kind of military jet.

posted 04-07-2001 06:06 PM            

Really. Don't you know? That was your imagination, cause the AF would never do that to a civilian. What you saw was swamp gas, reflecting off of a weather balloon and the sound was a backfire from a UPS truck down the street.