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nsasucks
Chemtrails suck - alot!
Earth
530 posts, Jan 2001
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posted 04-13-2001 11:07 AM
  
Back in a few hours. (for the agency: I have a house sitter today - two of them - so no, you don't get to B&E me.)Yeah...I found the information quite informative. Real eye-openers, if you follow me. It seems there is a great deal more to this blood biz than we have been led to believe. I mean, the library alone, PCC, has over two hundred books on the topic -with GREAT COLOR PICTURES! Mighty big topic, the human blood and its chemistry (and that is why, in college, I went for astronomy instead of the physical sciences!) Ooops. 
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IZAKOVIC
Senior Member
Rijeka, Croatia (Europe)
128 posts, Jan 2001
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posted 04-13-2001 06:11 PM
Hemopure is made using hemoglobin from cow's blood, taken at a Pennsylvania abattoir. The cows, which are raised and monitored from birth in controlled conditions, are raised for food. At the slaughterhouse, the animals are butchered for hamburgers and steaks, while the blood is removed to make Hemopure.
The raw blood is stripped of all its proteins and then purified. The process eliminates the possibility of passing diseases like bovine spongiform encephalopathy to humans, Hazel Forney of Biopure said yesterday. BSE, also called mad cow disease, is caused by a mutated protein.
Biopure will file an application by the end of this year to sell and use Hemopure in the United States and anticipates selling the product for worldwide use, Miss Forney said.
It can be stored at room temperature for two years.
http://washingtontimes.com/world/default-2001411223914.htm
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RidesTheWind
visionary
The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 04-13-2001 06:29 PM
I guess we can trust them with purifying the blood into hemopure just like we can trust them not to get starlink corn mixed in with people food right? Or the aids kept our of the blood supply...Who in Gods name would allow themselves to be injected with cow blood? Am I reading that right?
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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts
Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 04-13-2001 09:30 PM
It's possible that they are just using the hemoglobin, which would explain why the product only lasts a few hours after it is injected. I couldn't determine the composition of Hemopure from the article, but I would guess that it does not include intact bovine erythrocytes.Yup. Here's the link: http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/163cb2.htm One unit of Hemopure contains 30 grams of ultrapurified, chemically cross-linked hemoglobin in 250 milliliters of a balanced salt solution. This linked hemoglobin circulates in the plasma (the fluid part of blood) when infused, and has a lower viscosity (resistance to flow) and more readily releases oxygen to tissues than blood. Hemopure is uniquely stable at room temperature for at least 30 months, is compatible with all blood types, and is purified through patented techniques that are validated to remove infectious agents, including bacteria, viruses, prions and other potential contaminants.
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RidesTheWind
visionary
The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 04-14-2001 06:16 AM
What a great way to get all kinds of goodies implanted into bodies of poor sick people.As if their lives aren't already bad enough,
they have to come along and take advantage of their situation.Does anyone else have that feeling deep within of shame at being American? We are such bullies and overtakers.
Has anyone here read the book ISHMAEL by Daniel Quinn? A great read.Rush out and get a copy.
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 04-14-2001 12:02 PM
Hi RTW,I hate to sound like I'm prosteletizing (?) or preaching, but don't blame yourself for being an American. The media, and 'the powers that suck' (and these are certainly not confined to the U.S.A.) spend billions of our tax dollars, not to mention illegal arms/drug profits to keep us in the dark. If anyone feels that we as Americans are to blame for all the problems in the world, then TPTS have succeeded. They use, for example; TV advertising, and seemingly innocuous sitcoms and docu-dramas, special interest/govt-appointed political pundits, authors, producers and 'experts' to tell us we are not good enough, that we are racists and sexists and that, if only we would vote, our problems would be over... That we deserve the kind of government we get because less than %50 of us vote for the pre-determined 'candidates' that they shove down our throats every 4 years with illegal campaign financing. And on top of that, they get us to blame ourselves for the crimes and lies that they commit!..Like it's our fault for not voting. Corporate America does suck, but it's also the World Trade Org and pirates around the globe who come here to rip us off and then go back to their countries of origin! As Americans, we still have some rights, like freedom of speech (at least on the Internet), freedom to keep and bear arms (one of the last free countries in the world that 'allows' and 'trusts' it's citizens enough not to confiscate them). And I'm still proud to be an American, but I'm not proud of what TPTS are doing to us. We live in a time when America has become what I believe is a plutocracy, rule by the wealthy.
Anyway, I could go on and on, but I'll shut up since I know that to some of you, I'm "preaching to the choir". If you don't agree with me, that's okay. But I hate to see people, American citizens blaming themselves for something they really have little control over.Communicating via Internet to each other, and whoever will listen is more than a lot of people can or will do, but I guess, it's less than a few will do too? Some people have just never taken the 'red pill', or even realized there is one to be taken.
P.S. I don't know who coined that phrase, "The powers that suck" but it's a good one. P.P.S. CQ, by 'red pill', I'm not making any reference to the commies, just to "The Matrix". As I've said before, NWO can also be a term that can be interchangeable with any authoritarian type of system, including one that masquarades as a democracy.
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 02-13-2002 10:02 AM
Even if activist groups aren't infiltrated, the idea planted that they have been is enough to cause problems within the targeted group. With the amount of money available to black ops groups, foreign and/or domestic, if they can't beat'em, they can sometimes, buy'em... as in corporate take-overs. I believe that's what happened with the Christic group that disappeared after investigating the murders of two American journalists in La Penca, (can't reall the country in South America), though in that case it wasn't a question of a buy-off or sell-out, but actual assassinations related to independant investigations of illegal CIA involvement in Nicaragua in the '80's. There's always the 'plausible deniability', CIA, etc can claim (true or not), 'national security' as a reason for no investigation into a particular assassination. They can always claim it was a foreign enemy to the US (as opposed to the CIA!), that executed someone to throw a moneky wrench into an American operation or interest. Just because mainstream media ignores these stories, senate subcommittees, govt watchdogs and in some cases, the org itself will do the right thing when they can, or have to. In the case of a covert chemtrail operation, the offending org can sometimes rely on the ignorance and/or brainwashing of a select segment of the population (deb/seeker/canex, etc.) who can, in effect, do the job of disinformation for the org itself, without the org having to; a. pay the (often) unwitting target segment
b. have any official or even unofficial record of contact with that segment
c. recruit agents they already have on the payroll for the operation
d. admit any knowledge (plausible deniability) of the group Using segments of the American population to deceive, mislead, misinform, lie to another segment, (the real targeted segment) of the American/world population (chemtrail activists) is something we used to expect of a fascist nation, like Nazi Germany, former Soviet Union. When we see it happening here, we as a nation really need to stand up and point it out as part of our duty to remain vigilant as American/world citizens. Ask yourself why this 'debunker' group is so determined to shut down our attempts to understand and confront the only orgs that have the power and authority to circumvent our Constitutional rights. What do they have to lose? To me, that's become as big a question as to the true purpose of chemtrails.
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 03-17-2002 12:27 PM
I was talking with someone lately when the idea that Greenpeace may have been compromised recently by someone like FBI for COINTELPRO purposes, use of agents provacteur and disinformation.Does Greenpeace seem any less 'green' lately? I know they, or someone allegedly w/Greenpeace came out in favor of something that seemed totally out of character for them.
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 03-17-2002 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by nsasucks:
Greenpeace...sounds like they have a mole very high up in the Greenpeace food chain. The FBI has been bragging for over forty years that every activist group in America of any substance has been infiltrated. They actually brag about that. Imagine being a member of one of these orgs and hearing that lovely statement?Imagine being a member of one of those orgs, than judging by the self-destructive and comprimising actions of your leadership, you realize the FBI is actually telling the truth when they say that?
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 03-17-2002 02:45 PM
I was wondering who sux recruited for this pic and now I know...nice smile defender...
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 03-17-2002 02:59 PM
Bad try sucker, anyone reading my posts knows your attempts to disinform are %100 backwards. You guys are the fascists here, if anyone is.Don't you believe in our rights to question our own government? Obviously not. Your posts are just about as unAmerican as they can be. You just want to bend over, and let the authorities do whatever they want, even trying to stop anyone who questions what they do. You're not interested in the truth, only cover-ups and deception. The feds/govt are supposed to work for us!, not the other way around. You work for the bad guys, and you may not even know it! That's almost worse than knowing you work for them.
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 03-17-2002 03:01 PM
kinda looks like Don Knots...from the Incredible Mr. Limpid era
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 03-17-2002 03:05 PM
Yeah, that's what I thought! Leave it to seeker and his jpegs to try to steer us away from the facts. Like I always say, when the going gets tough, the debunkers (seeker that is) post jpegs, it's way easier than responding with a legitimate post. Which # was that? quote:
In the case of a covert chemtrail operation, the offending org can sometimes rely on the ignorance and/or brainwashing of a select segment of the population (deb/seeker/canex, etc.) who can, in effect, do the job of disinformation for the org itself, without the org having to; a. pay the (often) unwitting target segment
b. have any official or even unofficial record of contact with that segment
c. recruit agents they already have on the payroll for the operation
d. admit to any knowledge (plausible deniability) of the group
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Deborah
Take It To The Limit
Flagstaff, AZ
700 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 03-17-2002 03:19 PM
Defender wrote [to quote nsasucks]:....The FBI has been bragging for over forty years that every activist group in America of any substance has been infiltrated. They actually brag about that. Imagine being a member of one of these orgs and hearing that lovely statement?....
Yes. I can very EASILY imagine this.
The longer people of good-will continue to putz around under the illusion that they are actually _accomplishing something_ by preoccupying themselves with staying one step ahead of those whose sole intent is to infiltrate and ultimately render impotent ANY group effort, the less likely it is that the original goals of the group will ever be fully realized. We are now moving into a time when those in oversight of and actively participating in perhaps the most comprehensive, broad-based and meticulously-orchestrated Public Perception Management Project in human history are definitely beginning to trip over their own lies. Concrete evidence of this is cropping up all over the place - and it is not all that difficult to pick up on it.
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Never name the well from which you will not drink. -Spanish proverb
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Duncan Kunz
Senior Member
582 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 03-17-2002 03:24 PM
Jeff Rense is a CIA agent; we're on the same payroll, and I see him at the Bilderberger picnic every year.
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David
Chemtrail Information Agent
1290 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 03-17-2002 03:30 PM
Well from my point of view, the debunking is working. The information on CTC has slowed to a dribble. This used to be one of the foremost sites for the exchange of information and research. Now it seems that most of the time is spent on defending the chemtrail view point.
If I'm am not mistaken that is the aim of the debunking crowd. Would it not be easier to just tell them to take a hike and get on with the business at hand.Yeah,I know, opposing view points and all that,but figure up all the hours wasted in defending our views, time that could be spent doing research or exchanging ideas, well you get the point. The distraction thing happened last evening at another board, causing a halt to all communication between the board members and driving away potential new members and a couple of established ones.
Soooo, even though they may not be correct, they sure do know how to throw a wrench into the works and bring things to a screeching halt. Works every time.
Just tell um to piss off and leave.
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