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Chem11
megasprayer news


The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-21-2001 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I must say I'm a bit perplexed by the recent lockdowns at the Carnicom board. The Strieber thread, in particular. Aside from a couple instances of name-calling by one of our more juvenile participants, I can see no good reason to lock-up this thread.

My fear is that this may be politcally motivated. Some serious heat was directed towards the man and I can certainly imagine a few well-placed phone calls being made.

I hope I am wrong. Regardless, the recent action has had a rather chilling effect on participation.

We just starting to really get rolling, too.

Anyway, I've been posting over at Cliff's for quite some time now an I respect his judgement, even if I don't always agree with it. This forum appears to be a bit more open-minded and perhaps better suited to the direction many of us are now heading.

I was much impressed by Thermit's response to the situation at the unkowncountry forum.

That's activism. Or at least a start...

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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts


Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 04-21-2001 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome, Chem11! Don't mind us. We're reeling from what happened over there, too.

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nsasucks
Chemtrails suck - alot!

Earth
530 posts, Jan 2001

posted 04-21-2001 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nsasucks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't mean to be the welcome mat (oh GOD, not sucks!!!!) but hey I dig your posts.

No ads and excellent poetry by MS, so hey...life could be worse, all around.


...now...where were we? Before the censorship hammer fell?

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Chem11
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The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-21-2001 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I was feeling a bit adventuruous and decided to brave the great outdoors an it's perpetualy falling sky to get some fast-food, which always cheers me up.
On the way out, I ran into my neighbor and her little niece, who's only a few months old.

And she was so beautiful, you know? And I get outside and I'm scared. I'm literally scared to look at the sky, for chrissake.

I wonder what it must be like, climbing into one of those megasprayers, knowing you were dumping this poison on children like her.

I would think that I would cry myself to sleep, if sleep were possible. Eventually, I'd have a nervous breakdown, I think. I'd probably go totally numb.

Then one day, I'd look in a mirror and finally put the gun in my mouth.

Mothers, don't let your children grow up to be sprayplane pilots.

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Thermit
Tech


Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 04-21-2001 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks and welcome Chem11.

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The Military Lies
Senior Member


90 posts, Jan 2001

posted 04-22-2001 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Military Lies     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chem 11

You WERE one of the more juvenile participants at Cliffs board. Even though you refuse to admit it, You were the one who kept starting trouble. Other people there were simply defending themselves from your baseless rubbish. YOU were the one who created the bad blood situation over there, and wanted to CENSOR other people because you didn't agree with them. So stop whining about censorship. You REFUSE to go back and look at who STARTED the "juvenile" attacks. Let me give your selective memory a quick refresher.

-YOU-


I back Cliffs decisions all the way.

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Chem11
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The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-22-2001 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey TML, thanks for you post. Funny, I don't recall even using the word 'censorship' in my posts here...

Nor do I recall any bad-blood, with the possible exception of one mentally unstable poster who claimed to be nothing less than the "Messenger of God". This particular individual never posted any research or data, he justed ranted and raged about the chemtrail operation all being "part of God's plan" which I find to be patently ridicu...

Oh no. NOOOOOO.... please God, tell me this isn't happening!!!!! Does Chickie Deb post here too?

AAAAAAAARGGGHHHHHHHHH.

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cydoniaquest
nobody

nowhere
803 posts, Aug 2000

posted 04-22-2001 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chem11,

If you're talking about one with the initials GM....I concur! He seems to interpret anyone who has a disagreement with him as having a disagreement with the almighty Himself!

Itís damn near impossible not to have a run-in with that guy and not be considered an agent of the devil if you have a belief system that differs slightly from his own!

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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL


Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000

posted 04-22-2001 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for defender     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, I resemble that!... but only when it comes to the demonic half-witted nodeb entity!

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nsasucks
Chemtrails suck - alot!

Earth
530 posts, Jan 2001

posted 04-22-2001 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nsasucks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, four friends have come over from Carnicoms' board and two more have emailed me and are on their way!

Yeah...I have never had a thread killed here on me. And some real bitchin' stuff has come out too.

Now, if Thermit will explain to me how to do those colors, I will be most happy.

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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts


Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 04-22-2001 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CHECK YOUR MESSAGES, NSA!!!!!

Whew. I feel better now. Do you need help with colored text or some other kind of colors? If it's text, here's an example:
Just put <font color="red">in front of the text you'd like colored red and put </font> after it. Versteh?

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nsasucks
Chemtrails suck - alot!

Earth
530 posts, Jan 2001

posted 04-22-2001 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nsasucks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I "understand." Thanks.

I will check those messages but haven't received any from you.

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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts


Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 04-22-2001 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So you do speak German? Hmm. It was the spelling of Neu-Schwabenland that threw me. Took me a long time to get to that from New Swabisland. It's not on the maps anymore, either. They call it Queen Maud Land. Is there still a New Berlin?

You should have 2 messages in Thermit's Messages area. If not, I will ask him what I have messed up this time.

I have a nice picture of Neu Schwabenland. If anybody's interested I'll start a new thread on it.

Did that. See "Waaay OT: New Schwabenland."

[Edited 6 times, lastly by 3T3L1 on 04-23-2001]

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nsasucks
Chemtrails suck - alot!

Earth
530 posts, Jan 2001

posted 04-22-2001 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nsasucks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, for some reason I can read and write German. I wrote the spelling of NEW BERLIN and der Nue Deutchland because I am lazy, never spell check, often drop prepositions - type about 80 wpm, and never look back.

I'll check the message area. I didn't even knew one existed.

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Chem11
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The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-23-2001 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
3T3L1, I keep stumbling across veiled references to an expedition in the Antarctic, something to do with a warm-water lake under-ice. Very hush-hush.

If you've got information, I'd love to hear it...

NSA, I really dig that chain-of-consciousness, in yer face information assault thang you had goin' on with the last track.

That'd be the way to go, lyrically wise, IMIO.

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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL


Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000

posted 04-23-2001 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for defender     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was watching the 'History Channel' last night, an episode of 'The Samurai and the Swastika'? I think. In it, they said that one of the last missions of the Nazis involved a U-boat carrying some large amount of uranium to Japan even as Germany was surrendering to the Allies.

If so, that's a different spin than what I've read about that U-boat that was actually heading for New Schwabenland? which is territory surrounding the entrance to the hollow earth. Maybe it's more TPTB/nazi disinfo?

Guess you all know about that Thule org/religion that Hitler was a part of that believed in something like an underworld where stars are actually cracks in the 'sky'?

And Admirals Byrds book about what he saw in Antarctica was ridiculed and then labeled as a work of fiction?

[Edited 1 times, lastly by defender on 04-23-2001]

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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts


Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 04-23-2001 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've copied the last three posts and put them into a new thread: "Waaay OT: Neu Schwabenland"
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000389.html

If I were a competent moderator, I'd have neatly moved them over there, but I couldn't figure out how to do it!

[Edited 1 times, lastly by 3T3L1 on 04-23-2001]

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ExitMisery
Senior Member

MO USA
23 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-23-2001 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ExitMisery     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah, dope, duh... do you think GM is banned from both here and carnicom?... or taking a break again? Not for nothing, but I kind of like the guy... GM, you are the reliable type, like it or not, I believe you are. Anyway, just a' wondering (as I will)

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Chem11
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The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-23-2001 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EM, the persona of whom we speak does not post here under the name of 'Guided Muscle'.
Please reference the not-so-warm reception I recieved from the gentlemen from Denver (above). I can recall GM posting that he really didn't like it over here, hence his limited participation. Hmmm, I thinks to myself... have to check it out.

I'd be surprised if he isn't banned from Carnicom. Clifford 86'd someone for calling me an idiot. Once.

So what does Brainiac do, just a few days later? Start's hurling insults at me on the Strieber thread. There's a line, ya' know?

Anyway, I can't understand why an entire discussion had to be closed because of one person. I think here may be more to it, but that's just a hunch. Anyway, the ground does seem a lot more solid at Thermit's.

A final point. Carnicom doesn't actively participate in his own forum. I can certainly see why, but at the same time this precludes him from understanding some of the dynamics at work. There was a real sense of momentum building in the last few days before the hammer fell.

NSA, did you feel that? Like something was finally coming together?

If anyone over there is serious about organizing or actual activism, they are going to have start thinking about things like group dynamics, instead of just paying lip service.

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nsasucks
Chemtrails suck - alot!

Earth
530 posts, Jan 2001

posted 04-23-2001 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nsasucks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chem: Most definately on the building momentum thing. From emails I was receiving to the virtual ton of real data just DUMPING on that board from every direction - only to have the cold hammer of winter descend upon spring actually sent some folks packing for good.

The timing, of his/deb's censorship, could NOT HAVE BEEN BETTER, FROM ONE POINT OF VIEW.

And it could not have been WORSE, FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW, the survivors who are still kinda...miffied...over the thang.

But, I've licked my woundies and hell, it's a brand new day!

NO chemtrails in LA for the last three days straight...THANK YOU GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I MEAN IT. THANK YOU.

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-24-2001 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Momentum...the pieces are starting to fall into place. Since I have had the luxury of only reading and not getting involved in the personality disputes, I think that I have kept an objective viewpoint (as much as is possible when everything is so weird!) of the information that has been posted over there at Carnicom. I find it very distressing that the particular threads that seem to be pulling so many seemingly disparate topics together are the ones that were axed. But hey, it got me to come over here and speak up!

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ExitMisery
Senior Member

MO USA
23 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-25-2001 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ExitMisery     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting - the Carnicom message board this a.m. is pulling a 404 page not found... due to ez board maintenenace or what I wonder? didn't turn my 'puter on yesterday so don't know what might have been up then... I too actually feel more than a little miffed over the whole censorship deal, but hey, you are right, it's a brand new day! Onwards and upwards... oh, and by the way, Chem I like you pretty well too, ya heretic!

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Chem11
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The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-26-2001 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, the board is back 'up'. Only now the participants there are getting blasted with even more pop-ups. Part of the new ezboard revenue model.

As things stand, it is practically unusable. They're going to have to ante up or switch to a different board server. No one is going to deal with that much forced advertising.

I was pretty impressed with the fact that you took the initiative to address the situation directly over there, EM. To be honest, I couldn't make heads or tails of your post, but it still took guts.

And like I told NSA, guts is enough.

Except in this particular case. I think a decision was made to re-draw the line and they are going to stick to it. I hope this approach works out over there, but I have my doubts.

There's a term in the business world, "analysis paralysis", which describes a state of being so caught up in analyzing facts and figures that you let the opportunity of the moment pass you by.

I think continuing to build momentum is going to be key to taking this debate to the next level, as well. We should be attracting as many people as possible, by any means neccesary.

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nsasucks
Chemtrails suck - alot!

Earth
530 posts, Jan 2001

posted 04-26-2001 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nsasucks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chem:
"I think continuing to build momentum is going to be key to taking this debate to the next level, as well. We should be attracting as many people as possible, by any means neccesary."

I think your statement hits it nicely and couldn't be said better - which is why so many were stunned by the cold hammer of censorhip, right when everyone was getting to the center of things. I do not find that at all amusing or random - they cannot have us "getting it."

Hopefully, that will happen here - momentum thing.

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