posted 04-22-2001 05:58 PM            

Ridicule certainly is a good way of silencing someone with a story to tell, no?

I've found the best way to get this kind of information is to share a similarly strange experience with the interviewee. Hell, buy him a few beers and make something up if you have to! Hmmm, I recall seeing a copy of a USAF pilot's manual (from the academy, early 70's I believe) that detailed what you should do should you encounter a UFO.

posted 04-22-2001 07:30 PM            

EM: amazing what you can do with an SG with Joey Ramone on your mind, no?
(he just passed away a few days ago)

Thermit: Who is Doug Marks?

The chemtrail song is finished, btw. Slower more intense, better played.

BUT I have a better IDEA: If mark will write the lyrics, I will write the music and record the thing. There...the gauntlet has been thrown.

posted 04-22-2001 10:39 PM            

Several of you mentioned Morrison - interesting that his dad was an admiral and he has stated many times he was subject to MK stuff as a kid. The parallels are freaking me out. What a strange life this is.

Anyways, so SUBMIT YOUR LYRICS TODAY! Online naturally, and we'll make this a board project...

(hollywood guy in chair with cigar turns and says "I'll make ya famous, kid.")

posted 04-22-2001 10:43 PM            

Topgunn: You surprise me sometimes. The data you gave out on the pilots and all that seems accurate...feels that way too. Sometimes I can't figure you. But then, I remember, that the agency is all over the whole cocaine thing, which WAS POINTED OUT and then I realize that the real data we ARE NOT getting. Whenever the "captain real estate" is around, people die.

posted 04-23-2001 01:38 AM            

I don't think that it matters what I do or what I say, I think that you'll always accuse me of being agency. Unfortunately, that's what I believe. I didn't set out to be your enemy on this site or Carnicom's. But, when the "baby killer" phrase came out, well, you sure didn't end up on my good side. You've accused me of lying a lot as well. You've called me your "bitch." I've said some things in return as well.

So, here we are. Besides agreeing to disagree, I suppose that we're in concurrence that Van Halen would be a lot better if Dave had stuck around. I guess that's worth something.

I'm not a liar. I'm not employed by the NSA, CIA, FBI, DEA, NAIC, or anybody other than the USAF. I am a pilot, and I do fly F-16s. I post on my own time, and under no "orders" or even a suggestion that I alter my posts or respond in any certain way. I suppose that I'm not changing any minds by making this statement, but I'm making it anyway. I've already said why I started frequenting this site and Carnicom's, but I stick around much for the same reason that I'm over at Rense, Art Bell, Whitley's, the Free American, Mufon, the Black Vault, etc. I also like BFRO and GCBRO for some interesting reading on Sasquatch.

I went through adolesence and college as a rebel, and thus dabbled in a lot of rebellious activity. My hair was a different color each week, and my primary mode of transportation was a skateboard. I identified with and lived in the punk/metal community. I was one of the few who wasn't getting high every day, and I have no idea why to this day. I finally realized one day that my life had a lot more potential than partying and sleeping in each afternoon. I chose the military life (part-time in the Air National Guard) initially to give me a swift kick in the rear. After that, I realized that I could follow my childhood dream of being a pilot. I graduated, the applied. Surpirsingly, I was selected, and I haven't looked back since.

My point is that I'm the first officer in my family. I'm also the first pilot. My existence since childhood has always been one of free choices and little money. I've been homeless, swore I'd never fight Uncle Sam's war, and been on welfare. I've held friends who had overdosed while they empty thir stomachs on the sidewalk. I've been at the bottom of the food chain, and I've worked my way back up.

I've also caught myself grinning ear to ear as I punch through the clouds close on the wing of a good friend and flight lead. I've been wrestled to the ground by my fellow classmates and thrown in the "solo tank" after my first solo flight in pilot training. I've stood proudly as my mother and father pinned the wings on my chest after a year of heaven and hell in Columbus, Mississippi. And I've flown through artillery airbursts over Mosul in northern Iraq, and felt my heart pounding in my chest so hard it seemed like it would come tearing through my flight suit, jacket, survival vest, and harness. I've been awoke in the middle of the night by a friend with the news that a fellow pilot rolled in on a night bombing pass and never pulled out (this, coincidentally, was April 22, 1998. Maybe that's why I'm being a little sentimental this evening.) But, still, I am a very, very lucky guy. I am doing what I have wanted to do my whole life. Sure, it's not all fun and games, but I can't think of many jobs that are.

I don't expect you to understand where I come from sometimes. Many times, that's why I try to put it in layman's terms. But, I encourage you to pick up a copy of the FARs and the Airmen's Information Manual. This is the civilian pilot's bible, and us military folks are bound by the same. You'll find a lot of my statements come directly from these, and you'll learn why there are X's in the sky and other neat things. I don't have to be an agent to refer to these.

Well, best of luck to you in your fledgling musical career. I'm an artist, but I've never been able to grasp music like I have a good tube of cobalt blue, a nice canvas, and a set of hosehairs. But, I still love music, even though the message isn't always agreeable.

Back to the great debate.

Maverick

posted 04-23-2001 01:55 AM            

You know, I actually expected to see some type of protocol on how to deal with a UFO encounter as a military pilot. But, to this day, I have yet to find some guidance that deals with it. I think that instead there is someone on each base that is charged with the responsibility to debrief the pilot and handle the media. But, like the UFO issue as a whole, there is no official admission that there is someone on each base fulfilling this function.

To be honest, I would have had no idea how to handle the things on my radar screen should they have decided to get close to me. We don't fly very often with live ordinance, and I don't think that I was on the days that I had my experiences.

The pilot that I refer to that had an encounter was never told outright to keep quiet, but he did keep it largely to himself after being heckled by his buddies. And I did try the beer thing with him (many times) to no avail. One day, I'll run into him somewhere and I'll try again to get some info out of him.

posted 04-25-2001 09:57 PM            

I have written 2 new songs, but they lack lyrics. I was hoping some folks would help out but as silence = no thank you, I'll have to bungle them myself.

posted 04-25-2001 11:01 PM            

I was in the Biz for about four years down in LA. Close, but no cigar. I'll give it a shot.

Had a couple ideas... you could try doing a tongue-in-cheek network weather forecast somewhere in there...you know, today's forecast calls for heavy spraying in LA and Orange counties. Children and senior citizens are advised to stay indoors. Well, the chemtrails may make you seriously ill, but they sure do make for some interesting skies, right Tom?

posted 04-25-2001 11:51 PM            

Write it up. I'll do it - get a few mates to do the voices, cuz I BE SINGING.

This won't be a rant piece retro hell, these two are going to Modern works, with some good music behind it. The first of the two starts off with some very cool fingerpicking on a 35 year old Martin DM18.

posted 04-26-2001 12:25 AM            

I noticed a message feature here somewhere when I first registered. Damned if I can find it now...

3T3L1, is it possible to access this feature for collaboritive purposes? In other words, can a poster send another poster messages?

If so, where is this application located?

p.s. Thanks for coming back, NSA. Scientific detatchment is all well-and-good, but you've got guts.

posted 04-26-2001 01:09 AM            

...like last night

(i guess this is off topic, so I'll take it over to dreams.)

posted 04-26-2001 01:18 AM            

Let's try this... well, hold on. let's see if we can get a reply on my questions regarding messaging.

posted 04-27-2001 05:03 PM            

they still need lyrics. C'mon...it's not that hard...it's only rock and roll.