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KnewEyes
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under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-24-2001 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KnewEyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chem11,... I don't know where the giant had been for a year. There was nothing in my dream that gave me any clues to that.

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Chem11
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The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-24-2001 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Penumbra... "this page cannot be displayed".

Try again. {I think I fixed it. Go back and look. 3T3L1}

Thermit, now that you mention it, every damn time I look at the clock it reads 11:11.

If either of you tell me this is UFO related, I'm going to move to Antarctica...

It sure feels like something is being activated. Think I'll head over to the rant section...

[Edited 1 times, lastly by 3T3L1 on 04-27-2001]

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Thermit
Tech


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2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 04-24-2001 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No UFOs this time....yeah!

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Delphi
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S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 04-24-2001 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
11:11 is a trigger code of sorts. It is believed to be one of the keys that unlocks the subconscious mind...It's kinda an "awakening", or "wake-up" call. Once this number trigger begins in your life, you will notice sychronicities with the numbers or other sequences, such as, 10:10, 12:12, 5:55, 2:22 and so on. The number appearances usually signal changes in your life or they may confirm something you are experiencing whenever the numbers appear to you. The 11:11 can trigger other numerical patterns encoded within. It is also related to sacred geometry. You are not alone in this phenomena if it occurring to you as it is also occurring to others as well...as if to signal us or prepare us for a new level of consciousness and existence. It is a wake up call to remind us that all is connected and a message that lets us know we are all connected to the "Source" or "oneness'...It's like saying, "The time is now". I think it has significance, especially now, with the chemtrail problem and so many other problems occurring throughout the world, like a signal to help us and let us know that we are on the right track and hopefully, everything will be as it should be. I am having the 11:11 experience a lot anymore...wake up specifically at 11:11 or 3:33 and such, it happens more and more. ou will see number sequences like that on mail, phone #'s, licencse plates...keep an eye out, as now that it hjas started happening to some of you, you will notice it more and more in your daily lives. http://crystalinks.com/11.11.html should get you the info or just the crystalinks part and search her alphabetical indexes. She has lots of interesting and varied topics there, even chemtrails, etc. Blessings, Joanne

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Chem11
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1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-24-2001 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, that certainly seems relevant, considering Prism11 posted the first truly identical dream- vision- whatever. 11:11.
Hmmm.

His deal was actually some highway time dislocation thing. Which is weird, as well, because something similar happened to me involving a dissappearing Chemplane.

Prism, are you lurking? What happened to you out on the HWY ?

Ya' know, those people from EA are going to start ripping this stuff for their Majestic 'game'... it's that good....

copyright 2001 by Chem11

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nsasucks
Chemtrails suck - alot!

Earth
530 posts, Jan 2001

posted 04-25-2001 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nsasucks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In one of Tool's songs, Undertow, Maynard says very clearly at the beginning of the pre-chorus build,

11:11

Now Maynard has gone on record as having been subjected to various mind control problems as a child and later at West Point. His father...you get the picture.

This thing is so big.

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-26-2001 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mr. Sux, Are you suggesting that all people who have a connection with this 11:11 are MKids? I have read pretty much everything that you have posted about these subjects, and done a lot of further reading to try to get a clearer understanding. I certainly believe that these things have/are happenning, but on what scale, I do not know. I do know that a friend of mine seems to have been directly affected by this. Her daughter to be exact...but I haven't felt that it has anything to do with me personally. Please do elaborate:-)

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nsasucks
Chemtrails suck - alot!

Earth
530 posts, Jan 2001

posted 04-26-2001 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nsasucks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am definately NOT suggesting that ALL people who have a synchronisity with 11:11 are mkids or MKultras or Open Eyes, or its precurser, Clear Eyes.

But, Everytime I see those double:number associations, I find the agency. They always key them to tone frequencies, too.

For instance, last night chem and I were going back and forth on this board and got around to music. I went up to message him, and stated "hey it is now ?????PST, call me in five, here is my number: xxxxxxxxxx"

When I looked at my watch, it was 11:11

Very very telling that. I almost pissed my pants. Was it old programming? Or was it one of those moments in the universe when stuff like that happens?

To keep from freakin' Chem out, I waited one minute, so I could write 11:12.

What does this all mean?

I have no idea. but I see these numbers,

11:11
46:2
2:46

ALL OVER Geffen Records Albums - and in places where those numbers don't relate to anything else being said on the jacket. Check it out for yourself.

I think...in a few hundred years...when the people of the future look at our time, they will be aghast at how much EVIL has penetrated our social realities. When I say THIS IS SO BIG, that's what I am referring to.

I've seen 11:11 and 46:2, 2:46 (plus some other number strings) all over TV commercials and children's products (mostly Mattel)

Your mileage may vary.

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-27-2001 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the calrification Mr. Sux. Maybe it is just a higher calling... I will keep my eyes peeled for the album covers.
Also, yesterday i was baking a cake, and I decided to dig up my old tape of Undertow. I never did hear the 11:11 ( my tape isn't a very good recording of this) but during the time that I was listening, I had 2 phone calls with no one there. Very weird. I will try to listen to it again today.

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-27-2001 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chem11, how are the dreams going? Do you have any suggestions on how to become more of a lucid dreamer? When I was in college (been awhile back) I taught myself how, but I seem to have lost my touch. Maybe my dreamcatcher is interfering!

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nsasucks
Chemtrails suck - alot!

Earth
530 posts, Jan 2001

posted 04-27-2001 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nsasucks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's the song where he is warning someone about entering a bog and how dangerous it is - then -right at the pre-chorus build, he says, not sings,

eleven - then fade to a second eleven.

11:11

I have no idea what this means, just adding my piece. We all have pieces. That's why boards and meetings are so dangerous to TPTS, because once we all get focused on the same thing, we bring our own experiences and backgrounds into play and paint...
...quite a picture...don't they?

Lastly...Maynard freely admits he is a Satanist and a member of the Seth community / process Church. He is also into Scientology (ONI).

Everywhere I look, I see the old gang.

Everywhere. And we all don't look a day over 30 and we all have these bizarre talents/gifts that no one else has...and they've had their hooks into us since day one...


...and we all Really F**king hate them for that.


And we are fighting back!!!

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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL


Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000

posted 04-27-2001 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for defender     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This 11:11 is totally new to me, very interesting. Tool videos are extremely bizzare to me (all of the ones I've seen seem to be claymation?), they do seem very MK-Ultra somehow. Very dark and sinister, satanic. They must also be triggers for the sleepers roaming the U.S. these days?

Mind Control is huge in the music industry too, but I've spent less time looking at it than in other places.

Speaking of satanic bands, what do you think of Mudvayne. They seem to be 'on-deck' now to do their thing, whatever that may be?

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Chem11
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The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-27-2001 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Penumbra,

Perhaps it would have been more accurate to describe these as episodes of synchronistic (is that a word?) dreaming, although most people reveal that these dreams are lucid, as well. It seems that as the years go by, most people become deadened by the toil and trouble of everyday life and lose this ability to a large extent.

H.P. Lovecaft based his entire body of fiction on his incredibly vivd nightvisions. I have found that after reading his material, I notice an increase in my own ability to dream lucidly.

Despite my personal disdain for Strieber's recent assertions regarding chemtrails, I would also recommend Transformation as an enabling tool.

Really, the trick is to consciously recongnize that you are dreaming while in this state, yet remain asleep. From that point forward you will be able to control your actions and interact with the dream matrix much more efficiently.

I'd like to explore this subject in greater detail, but right now I am once again playing the waiting game.

Prism11, you task me. You have valuable information and I am quite interested in hearing the details regarding the circumstances of you own vision.

Please do share with the rest of the 'class'.

One final observation: Whatever manifests itself in this unique dream enviroment seems to have a physical counterpart in material reality.

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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist


East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-27-2001 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
11:11 Are you kidding? I had no idea that this number (time) meant anything to anyone accept me. Also 111, this is too weird. I'm definitely no MKid, had a great childhood. I am a very vivid dreamer (and totally aware dreamer) always have been. Can usually wake up at will, one time recenty during an extremely apocolyptic dream I couldn't wake myself. In my sleep I yelled to my husband, "Allen, wake me up" He's still amazed that I did this from a sound sleep.

Throughout my life as early as kindergarten 11:11 and 111 has stood out for me. I have never until this moment shared that with another living soul and never in a million years would have thought to look it up in a search engine. If anyone knows more about this or a good link please share. This is soooo weird.

One comment about the music thing. I was a punk rocker complete with mohawk at age 14 in 1978. Snuck in to U2's first show at the Rat in Boston. They were supposed to warm up for J Geils...J Geils band refused to follow them. They played for four hours. Love Tool, Smashing Pumkin's,FUGAZI, and the like.

Flash to present day. I'm a Jesus Freak who still loves to rock. Don't believe in coincidence. The fact the 11:11 means anything to others has me completely freaked.

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Delphi
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S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 04-27-2001 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 11:11 and other such number sequences are not supposed to be a symbol of anything bad or evil. It is supposed to be like a "signal" to us that we are going to experience change and "synchroniscities" in our lives and perhaps be evolving spiritually and to let us know we are heading in the right direction in our endeavors or "Quests"...such as, for example, those of us trying to solve the chemtrail problem and make folks aware are doing the right thing!! I suppose some faction can use number sequences to their advantage for mind control, but 11:11 and such are supposed to be symbols of good and deeper spiritual meanings. It is in no way related to evil, as 666 and such. Some even feel the 11:11 is a message from the Angelic realms. I have never heard of it being associated with negative connotations. Try the Crystalinks website I gave earlier, as it is explained much better there. Blessings, Joanne

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KnewEyes
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under those cloud-like things
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posted 04-28-2001 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KnewEyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NSA... What do you mean,,, people, who don't look older than 30... or people who have gifts and talents, ??? I have incredible musical talent, and also have psychic gifts that seem to surpass, those of my friends. PLEASE direct me to any post which explains this in furthur detail. My Father was a 1st Lutienent of WWII, in the army, and I know he was army all the way. I am 45 amd I dont look older(or feel) than 30. I have had experiences that NOBODY else i know have had spiritually, and I have always looked for an answer to these questions about myself, and now,,, think, you my may be able to help me find these answers. Sorry to lay so much on you,,, I just want to hear,, or NOT,.... something from you,that might ring a bell. Sincerely, Kneweyes.
I chose this name out of being me, and not for any other reason.

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nsasucks
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Earth
530 posts, Jan 2001

posted 04-28-2001 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nsasucks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"One final observation: Whatever manifests itself in this unique dream enviroment seems to have a physical counterpart in material reality."

I don't know why, but I sense you are correct on that. Bears investigation.

Kneweyes: I am not sure what you are asking, but I think there is something. You really want to do this in a thread? Message me.

To the rest of the gang: This music project is already starting to take a toll on my time, and will do so more in the next few weeks, so I'll hit here at least once a day and try to get to it all but, what with the New Swabi thread that needs to be finsihed off and learning 128 track DTM recording and mastering, plus studio time, plus gathering of the musical clan to make it work (I am going all out on the songs - fully professional - song one is definately shaping out nicely and spent most of the day download analogue loops for the background character of the middle section)

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KnewEyes
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posted 04-28-2001 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KnewEyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
testing, sorry ,,, testing. Last 2 posts didn't make it. Lets see if this one does.

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KnewEyes
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posted 04-28-2001 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KnewEyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know what's going on, heheh, (heheh), but my last two replys didnt' show up on thread. NSA... No,, I Don't want to talk on a thread about this. Also, I posted a picture on this site today in the "airplanes"section called "Tube"? This might appear to be a section of the fence, but is not. I have the original picture.

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Chem11
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posted 04-28-2001 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
128 tracks? You 're not messing around, are you NSA? This should be good.

I've learned something already along the strange, esoteric journey that this thread has taken both physically and philosophically.

We are all connected in ways in which we do not, as of yet, fully understand. This perception of synchronicty that people are reporting may very well be connected to the expansion of, and changes occurring to, the people involved in the this and other organized efforts.

It may be a side-effect of the large amount of people so intimately connected, mentally and emotionally, to this issue.

I think when you put human beings under this much stress collectively, they are going to either crumble or.. they are going to evolve.

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nsasucks
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Earth
530 posts, Jan 2001

posted 04-28-2001 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nsasucks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah...I want the songs to be something of quality - best playing, singing, recording, mastering, and overlays that can be had. With digital, you can do anything, practically. I've already downloaded all the CNN weather overlays, wind, bells, coughs, and everything else - but it's NOT a parody - It is a very very serious and heavy (drop D tuning, Phrygian mode in B minor) piece that is over 7 minutes long. THat's just the first song, and the bass player I want won't be ready to lay down for another week - but that's okay, I have tons to do on these tracks, plus I want to harmonically chorus the bridge sections with alto vocals through a flanged array. SO far, it sounds like Gilmour, Waters, Van Halen playing behind Chino Marino and Eddie Vedder.

I do not belive the 11:11 thing is evil. It's like crop circles - something very beautiful is happening, and no one knows what.

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Chem11
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1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-28-2001 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Too bad I'm stuck up here in the sunny NW, now. I used to be pretty handy with a four string. Bastards stole my custom C/J neck-thru body years ago and I have never been able to replace it. I loved that guitar, ya' know? Like losing a limb almost...

Crop circles, a very fitting analogy. You surprise me NSA. I would have that you had some sinister alternative explanation for these formations. I find them quite beautiful myself.

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Delphi
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S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 04-28-2001 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NSA, Sounds great so far and I saw you mentioned VanHalen in amoungst it...your endeavor is gonna be "top-knotch!" I can "feel It"! So, I'll quit yakkin at ya so you can get on with your work...excited to hear the out-come!!! Gonna be good, the best...I'm never wrong about these things. Now to others tonite...Kneweyes, if you want to discuss some cool and phenomenal stuff that has happened, boy, have I got a s*** load of paranormal and spiritual stuff to share..maybe we can compare experiences on the FreeForm section. Just let me know...my occurrences are mind blowing to a point! As for lucid dreams...I had one I had to wake myself up from recently about the Sun being so white and brite and low to the horizon, that folks were freightened and I was sheilding my eyes, as nothing about the sun seemed "right". I dreamt of chemtrails and all the B-52 from the SAC Base nearby where all flying North and a golden fire or ball of fire was falling in a SE direction and I had to wake myself out of it. I lucid dream a lot and have confronted Hitler, Aliens, Milab folks, and Navy Seals in my dreams and made the situation "safe" for myself. "Trippy" stuff. Nite for now, Blessings, Joanne

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RidesTheWind
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The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 04-28-2001 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nsa....Have ya ever read Notes from the cosmos by Gordon Michael Scallion?? He talks about the synchronicity of numbers and the awaking of the mind...It is not sinister but rather stronger connections to the source that are opening up to you and if you take notice these can be messages to you on what or where to do or go next in the spiritual
realm...I think this was mentioned in Mr.
Redfields books also Celestine Prophecy(sp?)
Shambala etc.Good read......

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KnewEyes
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under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001

posted 04-28-2001 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KnewEyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes NSA, I would like to talk more about this, but dont know how to message you. I wrote this last night also, but the posts didn't appear.Delphi, You bet I would like to compare notes! I think this could be a very interesting conversation.

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