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nsasucks
Chemtrails suck - alot!
Earth
530 posts, Jan 2001
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posted 04-28-2001 07:14 PM
  
Eyesthatknew: Nothing surprises me. And it's this kind of developing "something" that was killed last week over "thar." Welcome. Ihaven't been ignoring your posts, but can only offer what I know or feel and it seems that in this area, the others are far better informed than I am on this topic. QUick background for you, my friends and loved ones were High in the New Age food chain. My wife unit was the secretary for E.C. Prophet for 12 years, I was a secretary at the Arcane School and a Light Weaver, a Master Mason, an 18th degree in the Rosicrucian hell in San Jose, finished year nine of the MGNA sets, was a theosophist member at 8 years old, was studying the Bhagavad Gita under Torkom Saraydarian at 16, and was born into a famous military family that for now (I slipped this in the past and hurt a lot of people) has to remain confidential. I have spoken at the UN. Have done lecture tours all over the country, blah blah blah. I was born a clairvoyant, and that was my downfall. So that's my frame of reference, in breif to all this. Most of the people I know are ex-mil, ex-spooks, and ex-cops and lawyers. What does it all? How should I know.Delphi: You seem to be plugged in pretty well, most of your perceptions are right on, again from my perspective. 
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Delphi
Mystic Warrior
S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 04-28-2001 09:56 PM
Kneweyes, I'll try to catch ya sometime on threads here and we can scoot over to freeform...Will be looking out for ya! I post late a nite sometimes. Blessings, Joanne NSA, Wow, what an interesting life you've had and continue to have....Your way cool! And talented besides! Blessings, Joanne
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KnewEyes
watcher
under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-28-2001 10:49 PM
Well NSA, Delphi,.. my resume is not as colorful as yours on paper, but mine is more of a personal "life" type of experience. On the other thread I posted something mighty personal , which I normally don't do, but then again, after I have a couple glasses of wine I find I am more prone to open up a bit about myself, and when I get on the puter, sometimes I wish I hadn't! To continue... as a small child I always waited for my mother or someone else to explain to me who all those invisible people were, who were constantly surrounding me and watching me. I thought that since it was so obvious to me, that they were there, that surely that must be a part of everyones reality, but the explanation never came, and I never asked.That's just the way I was. I astrally projected ever since I could remember, and said to myself every night... Gee, I can see myself way down there in the bed, but it feels like I am in outer space, looking down at myself. There were tiny red lights in my bedroom at night, that were there to watch me, as a child, and I hated, and was scared of them. At age 15, I experienced what I think of as a "test" which was like severe psychic attack, which systematically went through all my physical senses, and dominated my life for a year and a half, till I finally found the way to conquer "them" by "refusing to fear". I saw , and experienced some mighty terrible things at that time, and when I say to people, I don't think most people could have survived it,, they feel I am being egotistical, but they just don't know....
Later in life , I met my best friend , (worst enemy), who was deeply into magic, which I had been interested in since age 16, because I thought I must have been born a "witch" or something, because I was different, and had an "ability" in this field. I blindly felt she was my mentor, and joined a group, she had wanted me to join, ever since I met her, and that was the OTO. Ordo Templi Orientis. Alistar Crowleys branch.(She just wanted me to take minerval, so that I would open up certain parts of myself, that she felt she could help herself to). Well ... everything I had been studying all my life, all fell into place for me,,, I would wake up with knowledge, far beyond what I had studied, or maybe it is just my knack for puting 2 & 2 together,that brought me to a sudden understanding of what was really going on , and the total insanity, and selfishness of it all. I stopped all study, prayed to forget what I had learned, threw out an entire library , and paraphanalia.. and tried to live a "normal" life. All I found doing that... was people who were so close minded, that I found them to be quite lacking in reality. Sheeple to the Nth degree. Well, I did that (hid) for almost 17 years, and found myself called back to the study of the unknown, the quest for truth, and it seems like I ended up right where I left off, but at a different level of understanding. One I like a Whole lot better, tho I sure don't like what I am seeing !! So , in a nutshell, a small one, that's a bit about myself. Thanks for your personal welcome to this board, it means alot to me. 
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Chem11
megasprayer news
The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-28-2001 11:27 PM
As above, so below, eh Kneweyes?
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nsasucks
Chemtrails suck - alot!
Earth
530 posts, Jan 2001
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posted 04-28-2001 11:55 PM
BTW, if the resume thing sound like bragging, it is not. Far from it. There isn't a day that goes by that I wish I could undo it all. I was used. Manipulated. Treated in ways that would sicken you as a child. I watched the most horrible events take place. Witnessed high level rituals that made ugly people - who pretended to be beautiful - only more ugly. My siblings were destroyed - I have never known things like family, until I had one myself. The army...be all you can be. What a load. I see that my knowledge and experience at these high levels can provide one thing - that is knowledge to the world. For examples I have in my possession all the sacred words of power of all 18 degrees, including initiation rituals for the Rosicrucian order. No one outside the top levels (there are maybe thirty people in the country with ALL rituals in their possession) of that order has ever seen them or even knows they exist. It would take someone 30 years to acquire them - and only then, if it were permitted, which just doesn't happen. Now, these are quite the eye-openers because they are ALL the exact same rituals used by the Egyptian priests since about 9,000BC. Who would print them? What to do with them? Opportunity for someone willing to risk their life.
(BTW, it's all black magic - I see that now - but couldn't then.)
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prism11
Senior Member
milky way, 3D+
44 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-29-2001 12:31 AM
I dropped this post in over on Freeform but I thought I'd repost it here since it pertains to the tunnels and the underground systems and bases. Here it is:War is a fascilitator. Today in America some say war drives economy and that we only prosper when war is undertaken by this country. It's true. And here's why for so many reasons: this country is the Service to Self capital of the planet. In addition, war is diversion. For one thing, souls get released during war by the thousands, if not millions. Well, let's assume for a second here that genetic reconstruction of a human body is possible. And let's assume that a body's DNA isn't necessary to reconstruct the body. Instead, let's assume that another way a body can be constructed is largely a function of the soul itself and how it needs to manifest in 3D for experience. The soul need dictates the bodily container. And now let's assume that a soul (just like a human body) can be captured. If the captured soul has the right background beliefs, then the captors can control the captive soul by feeding it information. You know how that part works.
So a war breaks out. Soldiers are killed. Their souls leave the body and some are captured intentionally (based on various factors). Once captured their former 3D body is regenerated using information available in that captured soul complex. Once the body has been regenerated then the soul is "reattached". Boom, the former dead soldier is now alive again. Hey, it's magic. Just don't tell Kreskin about it ;-) So what a concept! What a technology possession that would be! Now, since we have that technology, theoretically of course, as a 3D/4D collaboration we can build another army from former soldiers--the one's that died. Soldiers ALREADY trained in human combat and methods of "situation control." They die, we regen a replica body, reattached the soul, send the killed body home for burial, and no one is the wiser because they're all stuck in 3D belief systems. Now we have this ability to build armies inconspicously, but they're still human and they age and die. So we don't want to sit around all day regenerating aging and dying soldier bodies while they go unused or unneeded for the present time. So we have to store them somewhere and somehow until we are ready to implement them. Enter cryogenics. We slow their systems down (cryo-based) so that they live for a very very long time. So now we have the aging problem beat, but we can't just store these "bio-replicant re-entrant entities" anywhere on the planet. They'd be found sooner or later, or inadvertantly distroyed. So there are only two places left that we could store such a force without any meddling from surface-dwelling humans: under the ground and ocean floor, or in space. But dang, everyone has access to telescopes and recorders. Well, that settles that. Underground it is. To do that we need tunnels and transportation technology, bases, outposts, etc. Oh, and the cover to get it all done of course. War works good for that too.
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Chem11
megasprayer news
The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-29-2001 12:44 AM
Ah, Prism11. Glad you could join us. Now please take a seat while I apply the restraints... NO, they are for your own GOOD.. hold still you slippery varmint!Now, the injection won't hurt a bit. See? How much better you feel? You have information... information.... let me take you back... You are driving down the highway, right before you had the vision you previously desribed for us at C.C.'s... Please describe, in detail, the events leading up to that vision. That or I apply the headgear. And we wouldn't like that, would we Prism?
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prism11
Senior Member
milky way, 3D+
44 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-29-2001 02:03 AM
I was running some thoughts by as I drove and then I saw some things mentally, as described previously. Not as if I couldn't see anything else. I had to drive of course ;-)I'm not sure what you're asking by "what lead up to it."
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 04-29-2001 02:40 AM
I haven't caught up to this thread til tonight, I am seeing some synchonicity here too! I see similarities in some of us attracted to the dark side earlier in life, rejecting it, and then coming back to use what we have to add to enlightenment. Cool!  I haven't had any lucid dreaming though, may be part of my being 'blocked' in a psychic sense that I've felt for some time. Probably my Moms illness? I do know that the dark side is powerful and why people are attracted to it, but we all know where it leads. We don't have to give up our powers, or our search for the truth. And it's alot brighter over here in the light!!
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Delphi
Mystic Warrior
S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 04-29-2001 02:58 AM
Kneweyes, Defender, NSA, anyone interested, I just posted some of my paranormal experiences in the Freeform section as Kneweyes was interested about that. There is lots more but for tonite, I didn't wanna "freak ya out" too much so I'll add more in there from time to time if it is o.k. with Thermitt. Actually, a lot of the paranormal stuff has a connection to the chemtrails, I found, in a round-about way. Blessings, Joanne
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Chem11
megasprayer news
The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-29-2001 03:53 AM
Defender- very perceptive on you part. I think this is probably true.Delphi- I'm actually very interested. See ya there! Prism- don't mind me. The only way I can elicit un-biased information is by picking picking my unwary victim's brains without them knowing why. And it's worked so far. We've uncovered a lot of startling information and perhaps another investigative tool. I'm going to have to go back and summarize the data and see what the real implications are. Stay tuned...
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 04-29-2001 11:01 AM
Chem11I understand what you're saying about H.P. Lovecraft. I read many of his works in my teens (1970's)and found it very disturbing, more so than any fiction I've read before or since. I found that I had to stop reading it because it seemed to have such a negative effect on my perception of reality. I also experienced lucid dreaming during that time, very dark dreams. To this day I have not read any of Lovecrafts writings. References to the Necronomicon(?) in retrospect must be an indication of his 'inspiration'. I experimented with Silva Mind Control method (self-control involving sleep, alpha rhythms etc.) among other things, later in the early '80's and found that I did have at least one out-of-body experience, but I didn't continue on with it. I may make time to try it again some day as time permits? I feel more protected in recent years since having more 'God-consciousness'.
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KnewEyes
watcher
under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-29-2001 11:58 AM
NSA, Nahhh, I don't think you are bragging. Telling the truth, has nothing to do with bragging, unless those who hear, envy your experience, and wish the same for themselves. Nope, bragging it is not.I also agree that all we are seeing now, stems from black magic, and I am shocked at fathoming how widespread this total immoral, selfishness really is.
Delphi, after I write this I am on my way over to freeform to read your post.Bet it will be interesting!
Prism, wow, what a concept!Makes me think!
Defender, yes, it is something the people who have met on this board, and others like it, who have learned dark lessons in the past,are coming together for goodnesses sake,now in the present.My motto is and always was, even back then, when they were "tricking " me that "Goodness will always prevail over evil.No power is stronger than Love".
Just want to add this,it's been 4 days now of lineless skies in Connecticut,wonder whats up with that? Sad too, that it is at the point where you begin to question why you aren't being sprayed.Anyone else getting a break from it?
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 05-07-2002 07:26 AM
Don't know if everyone has read this very interesting thread or not, so I'm bumping for any members to add their thoughts/strange dreams on this subject.
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moonmaiden
speak softly and...
Spokane, WA 99204
52 posts, Sep 2001
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posted 05-07-2002 01:24 PM
HELLO!?------------------
The soul takes flight into the world of the invisible, and there arriving is sure of bliss and forever dwells in paradise. - Plato
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moonmaiden
speak softly and...
Spokane, WA 99204
52 posts, Sep 2001
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posted 05-07-2002 01:33 PM
I suspect that "fairgrounds" could be connected to the chainlink fence & metal buildings portion of these dreams you're discussing.but why are we spending so much time and energy on these types of posts? shouldn't we be focusing on how to STOP CHEMTRAILS? I NEED to contact any local people willing to begin a serious protest campaign in Spokane, WA. LOOK at the great posters Santa Monica residents made to raise awarness in their city - (PSA's link)We should ALL do something this convincing - just spend a couple weekends downtown talking to people who are interested. PLEASE CONTACT ME IF YOU LIVE IN MY AREA - I AM WILLING TO TRAVEL TOO.
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Nirvana
Senior Member
Seattle, WA
180 posts, Nov 2001
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posted 05-07-2002 01:44 PM
I've had some powerful dreams in the past two months:1.) I'm at the ruins of a temple in India or SE Asia. A woman is describing to me how she acquired her psychic powers. She seems excited about her new powers and somewhat diabolical. Unlocking the powers had something to do with a statue in the ruins too. 2.) I'm watching a gathering of people in red hooded silky robes in a darkened stadium. A group attacks two people in robes on the floor of the statium who do not appear to belong there. There is blood on the floor. 3.) I'm in an office. A college administrator type across the desk from me asks if I would like to be a human sacrifice later that day or the next. As one might expect, I'm uncomfortable with the notion. I'm asked to show up for the ritual at a certain time and place. I leave the office. I think about it later and decide to leave the campus. I'm in my car at the exit gate. The guard asks if I'm not going to the sacrafice. I say I've decided not to. He opens the gate and I drive away feeling somewhat paranoid. 4.) One other disturbing dream perhaps I'll share sometime... Has anyone else had similar dreams? Negative entities, sacrafice, rituals, and the like? I'm not into black magic. I do believe in good energy (i.e chi or ki) for one's health, psychic development, etc. Nsasucks, what's the roseycrucian order all about? I met a member unexpectedly not long ago... Interesting thread... I'll be offline a couple of days to take care of some business. I'll reply to anything as soon as I can.
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penumbra
quarky
North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-07-2002 03:40 PM
Thanks Lulu! Interesting to reread the thread that got me here to Chemtrail Central! I don't think I'm the only one either. Quite a few of the more vocal members came on board that month.  Moonmaiden, there seems to be a deeper bond between some of us here than just chemtrails. There are several other off-topic threads like this one. But if you don't like them, that's okay too! This thread probably belongs in the Other Trails section; however it existed before that. Nirvana, Mr. Sux is long gone, here is some info for you about the Order of the Rosy Cross: http://fraktali.849pm.com/rosenlinks.html I have also had some very weird dreams lately, I will try to post some of them later. I can't wait to hear #4...
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KnewEyes
watcher
under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-07-2002 04:30 PM
Yes Pen,
This is the thread I also arrived here on. Funny how this sticks out in our minds, it always has in mine,,, this thread, and how alot of new people , including myself came here because of this thread. 
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 05-07-2002 05:32 PM
Seems the revival of this thread has got Col. Dan's panties in a bunch...I don't find it is so very interesting at all. Circumstantial and based on well known paranoids, liars, and pill poppers. (for those of you who don't know it, Col. Dan is the bored Deputy Inspector General of NORAD).
http://pub31.ezboard.com/fcontrailsandchemtrails22884frm1.showMessage?topicID=484.topic
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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist
East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-07-2002 06:19 PM
Way to go Lulu! Keep wielding the ever strengthening mod power that Thermit has bestowed upon us! I came on board here April 2001 too but did so during the mass exodus form Cliff's censorship.
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 05-07-2002 07:24 PM
I find it interesting that the Naval Air Warfare Center is interested in this thread. They were visiting here yesterday and reading it.
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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!
Stamford, CT, USA
1750 posts, Dec 2001
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posted 05-08-2002 12:07 AM
I kind of do dream interpretations as a hobby and have heard some real interesting ones about the dark forces and negative entities as well as ones that could be interpreted as messages from deceased loved ones. - Luckily, I've had a pretty good track record with them and have made it easier for some people to fall asleep at night. - One good book that I keep on my desk is called "The Dictionary of Dreams" by Gustavus Hindman Miller. It covers 10,000 of the most common dreams that people have.
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CanyonMan2002
New Member
Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada
17 posts, Apr 2002
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posted 05-08-2002 05:04 AM
I "stumbled" on this thread tonight.....WOW!
This lucid dreaming thing has got me fired right up! I've been lucid dreaming for most of my 36 year life, only i didn't know that i was doing it until i found out what it was that's been going on at nights. When i was younger, i used to adore the feeling as i entered the lucid state...i didn't really know about it though....just that it felt "cool". So now i'm 36, I have lucid dreams nearly every night, and i have come to learn alot about myself and another "place" that i frequent while there. It's a small "hamlet" set back in some majestic mountains, with a view of a city below. Something major has happened below, and everyone in the hamlet was there by choice....for survival of the body and soul. It's sort of a high tech meets living off the land scenario; all sorts of computer type gear to monitor for g-men, but yet a simple way of life...growing our own food, brewing our own beer, etc. But whatever did happen to draw everyone into the mountains, made some lifelong enemies for the government that was left in power. I say "left" because whatever did happen caused a severe drop in mankind's population here on Mother Earth.
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David Mortan
New Member
New Jersey
21 posts, Apr 2002
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posted 05-08-2002 06:37 AM
What is this stuff on Contrails/Chemtrails, Lulu? I hope you'll give me an answer...somethin I can use.
Dave
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