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Catnip57
Senior Member
Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-08-2002 11:40 PM
  
Well... you can add me to the bunch that migrated here last April too. I remember it well... I had started a topic over at Carnicom's called Unusual Nightmares. I started talking about a particular dream that I thought was rather relevant...and there were quite a few people responding till suddenly the thread got censored or something like that.I believe it was Chem 11 that made the suggestion that folks wanting to pursue the dream topic come here since there was a bit more freedom to explore and share our experiences with dreams. I had forgotten all about this thread. I'm glad it's been brought back to life. Not surprised that someone from the military is interested in visiting this particular topic... after all the CIA was doing research into remote viewing for a number of years until they stopped sometime in the 70's.
Actually I think they continued but called their research by another name. I listened to a guy on Art Bell saying how the military was interested in people who had psychic abilities. I've continued to have a lot of interesting dreams with topics that have created a lot of curiosity to the point where I start doing research on the subject matter of the dream. One of my last dreams was about using the perpetual energy in magnets. I was so intrigued by this dream that I got on the Internet and learned that there's actually a patent on a magnetic engine but that's all the further I researched that subject. 
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hooligan
Senior Member
Seattle
76 posts, Feb 2002
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posted 05-09-2002 12:06 AM
That is very interesting Catnip about the magnetic energy. It seems that when you dream you can tap into the mother of all world wide webs. So in lucid dreaming can you access this place of total knowledge with purpose? Who would need compters? I too often have dreams that lead me into researching things. A couple of nights ago I dreamt of a map and it was very vivid. I could see everything clearly but I knew at the same time that when I woke up I would not remember everything I wanted to about the map. I woke up and then tried to go back to the dream but instead dreamed of a crow attacking my head while I was driving even though all the windows of the car were shut and I didn't know how it got in the car. This dream made me annoyed. When I got up in the morning I was determined to find the map because I knew it was real. I realized very quickly that it was a map of Egypt, specifically the Nile around the area known as Upper Egypt. I tried to find a map on the internet that seemed most like it and found one in Latin with the names handwritten. The map in my dream was very old but I can't remember the words on it.I know what they looked like. I also discovered in my researching that the ankh, an Egyptian symbol of eternal life is also a symbol of the Nile, the round part being the delta region and the arms being the east bank where people live and the west bank representing the afterlife(the other side) curiously my daughter found an ankh last week and has been wearing it around her neck and is convinced it has given her powers.
When I have dreams like this it does seem that I am supposed to figure out why.
Sorry for rambling but I just can't stop thinking about that dream. this thread is very important because we need to learn how to get in there in see whats going on because dreams are not inside your head only, its the whole world.
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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!
Stamford, CT, USA
1750 posts, Dec 2001
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posted 05-09-2002 12:51 AM
Very interesting dream Hooligan. BTW, do not be annoyed by the crow. - He was just trying to get your attention. - In some native cultures and even some Celtic cultures, the crow is a sacred animal or spirit guide - and believe me, you're not the only one who has dreamed of encountering certain animals.
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CanyonMan2002
New Member
Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada
17 posts, Apr 2002
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posted 05-09-2002 02:27 AM
What a great thread! Ahhh lucid dreams! Lucid dreaming led me directly towards remote viewing about a year and a half ago. Comparing it all to the world wide web is an excellent way to put it. After the initial period of meditation, i "command" my spirit guide and my astral guide to assist me and protect me from evil on the journey. Laugh on...but it really works. My very first time over "there", i asked the vaugue question of "show me the basis of our existence"....and i was shown organic looking things that were obviously living. After the fact i realized that it had to be the macro level that i was taken to, or shown. All i can say is that it was awesome!
So a few days later after i regained my mental strength, and was rested, i tried again. This time i was way more specific in my questioning....but not quite enough i guess. Due to the fact that i had recently lost my muchly loved Grandmother, i wanted to see that she was o.k. I asked my guides, "Take me to where my Grandma is right this moment". Not,"show me my Gramdma", like i'd really wanted. Well, to make a long journey short, I was taken to what i found out later was the "hall of records" or "hall of wisdom". There was green grass everywhere, roman/greek looking columns that rose right up into yhe sky, and two long, long staircases made of marble. My guide talked to me as i would get excited about trying repeatedly to get around a column, but failing everytine. :Calm down!...You'll break the link!...relax!", was repeated to me numerous times...and in the end, it was true. I got flustered about not being able to move towards the stairs, and i left the place quicker than i got there. I seen where Grandma was...not her, but where she was at these days. A point i must make is that i have NOT been religious in the last 30 or so years, but i am very spiritual. Crystals do have energies, and they do help in meditation. When i remote view, i use either a nice cut piece of Amethyst...or a double terminated smokie quartz meditation wand. I also am a first level Reiki, and i can swear, that "something" is really going on out/up there, and it's going to be great after the initial growing pains. It is real, as "way out there" as it does sound. But like i said...i am the LEAST likely to get into this sort of thing unless really having a reason...and proof along the way to keep me interested. 
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CanyonMan2002
New Member
Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada
17 posts, Apr 2002
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posted 05-09-2002 02:30 AM
P.S......always say "Thank you" to your guides for their help....and if using a candle or two when meditating, never blow then out. Snuff them. Apparently the spirit world takes offense to candles being blown out..........that's what my reiki master has told me.
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KnewEyes
watcher
under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-09-2002 08:08 PM
I know that book Dan,, used to have it, don't know where it is now...but my favorite Dream book is called "The Dreamers Dictionary" by Lady Stearn Robinson and Tom Corbett. I've gone through two of them already, and the one I have now is in 4 pieces next to my bed. I think it's time I break down and get a new one,lol.
This site has alot of people reporting dreams, also automatic writing, and ,, a few other things.
http://www.greatdreams.com/
[Edited 1 times, lastly by KnewEyes on 05-09-2002]
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Bob
New Member
Tahlequah, Ok. USA
28 posts, Nov 2001
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posted 05-09-2002 11:08 PM
This is an amazing thread. I've been a member since November but time doesn't allow me to post very much or look through the past threads. Thank you Lulu for reviving this one.
222 has been my number. About 10 years ago I went through a spiritual evolution of sorts and 222 started showing up everywhere. I am a heavy sleeper and seldom wake up in the middle of the night...unless of course it is 2:22. I always felt that it was significant but never knew in what manner. Anyway, life happened and my 'senses' dulled to some degree and I forgot about that period of my life. The 222 thing vanished until the summer of last year when I began another evolution. The only person that I have mentioned this 2 advised me that I probably noticed the number once and started seeing it more because I had become aware of it. But I doubt that because for over 2 years my job has been reviewing numbers; account #'s, telephone #'s, and dollar #'s. What a life, huh? I was aware of 222 before I got the job and would obviously see it occassionally. But last summer during my evolution it was everywhere again.
Soon after that I had this dream: My girlfriend and I were hiking along a trail enjoying a beautiful day. The trail led us through the middle of a house. The living area of the house had no outside walls so we walked through it and met the nicest people. We continued on our journey and noticed a cluster of aircrafts flying in a tight group. There was about 30 crafts in the cluster and they weren't in formation. It was a mixture of everykind of aircraft imaginable flying wingtip 2 wingtip. Then there was chaos. People were everywhere along the path running in random directions. We started heading home because we didn't know what was going on. When we came to the house it was burning and the people inside were dead. Several more groups of aircraft flew over. We got close to home and a soldier in a black uniform told us to follow a group of people heading the opposite direction and we would be safe. Having no reason to doubt him we complied. We followed the group to the Thompson House which is the oldest house in the town where I live. I began getting an uneasy feeling and tried to get my girlfriend to sneak away from the group but she refused. After realizing she was determined to stay and I was determined to go we said good bye. I found a hiding spot where I could see what was going on. Large numbers of people entered the building and I wondered how they could get that many people inside. After awhile someone tried escaping and was shot. The dream ended with screams coming from inside the house.
After finding this site and reading about the Masons I drove by the Thompson house and realized that right across the street is the local Masons Lodge. Kind of freaky. Just thought I would share. I've got to get some sleep now. I've got a particularly large amount of numbers to review tomorrow.
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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!
Stamford, CT, USA
1750 posts, Dec 2001
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posted 05-09-2002 11:46 PM
Now that is one freaky dream Bob. - I hope I don't have one like that. I remember hearing about a nightmare one girl had a while ago about seeing bodies in coffins. - Lots of bodies. It freaked her out so much that she couldn't sleep for days. - It just seemed so real. Some of the dreams that I have had to interpret don't fit the scenario of a normal dream at all and sometimes I even have to sleep on them for a night before I can make the interpretations. - Only rarely will a small portion of any of these dreams be interpreted by any book and seem to be more like premonitions than dreams. I think that since I am of partial native descent and my understanding of the old ways that I can seek the meanings of certain dreams a lot easier than the people who dream them.
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Catnip57
Senior Member
Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-10-2002 09:54 PM
So in lucid dreaming can you access this place of total knowledge with purpose?Hooligan... I wish I could say that the dreaming gives me access to total knowledge, but I don't think that's quite the case.
My dreams seem to lead me in directions I need to do more research, to find answers to questions that I've pondered and also present new information that I need to think about and research. It's always a quest for knowledge and learning.
It's like something's steering me in the right direction rather than just doing hit and miss research. I still have some dreams that I've no idea what's trying to be conveyed. Sometimes it takes a few years even to see their importance. Others are more of a confirmation of things that I've been suspecting all along. Anyway it gets quite interesting at times and I've even started recording my dreams on a cassette recorder. I find that doing this as quickly as possible after having a relevant dream is best while the details are still fresh in my mind.
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CanyonMan2002
New Member
Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada
17 posts, Apr 2002
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posted 05-12-2002 05:28 AM
Here's a vision for ya's.
A wide shot of a horizon. A majestic mountain range on the right. Plains in the center. ....and rolling in from the left side, is a HUGE rolling cloud,almost as tall as the mountain range, dark grey with red bursts of fire or light peering through the edges.
Don't know what it means, but it was damn vivid.
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KrissaTMC2
Never Surrender!
Greenwich, CT, USA
472 posts, Feb 2002
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posted 05-12-2002 06:50 PM
I'm not sure what the significance of that is CanyonMan.
BTW, I found this old thread from August of 2001 that could fit here.
Remote Viewing the 'Chems'... http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000281.html
[Edited 1 times, lastly by KrissaTMC2 on 05-12-2002]
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Catnip57
Senior Member
Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-13-2002 12:05 AM
KrissaTMC2.... It's interesting that you've posted that latest link here for the newbies to review. I'm glad you did.
I remember Delphi quite well.... she had a witty sense of humor and a real fighting spirit. Now for those that are new here I hope that you've noticed that the #3 entry of her dream the one she posted about the volcanic ash scene and the people running in chaos and confusion along with the negative feelings of a certain tall building along with hoping it wouldn't turn out to be something like the Oklahoma bombing dealy... this should stand out bold and clear.... Notice the date of her revelations with her dreams. 8/30/2001... just a couple of weeks before the 911 event.I really liked what Defender had to say about her too...
The people that give you a hard time are the ones who may also be envious, but won't admit to themselves that they can't comprehend something they can't explain or experience for themselves. Like contrail artists, many of them are egomaniacs who won't allow themselves to risk upsetting their little realities where they can be safe.
I guess it does take courage to step 'outside of the box', but when you know something is true, how can you hide it?
Some of us were born outside of the box, we didn't even have to step out of it! Yep... she was born outside of the box and she got into the nastiest arguments with some of the debunkers. Which essentially just drained her of energy and opened her up to their vicious attacks.
As you've probably noticed there are several posts made by her in that thread that she deleted. It just shows that she was losing the will to fight against the nasty comments and decided it was safer to just withdraw altogether. It's called burnout.. and we all get hit with it when we don't pace ourselves. I really miss Delphi... I wish she'd come back sometime. We used to have some really interesting live chats using the chat feature here. I even shared some details about some of my dreams with her. She always shared some really insightful things during those times.
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KnewEyes
watcher
under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-13-2002 07:15 AM
I miss her too.
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penumbra
quarky
North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-13-2002 08:15 AM
... and whatever happened to defender?!? sorely missed by me...
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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!
Stamford, CT, USA
1750 posts, Dec 2001
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posted 05-13-2002 10:44 AM
I haven't seen Defender in a while. - Not sure what happened to him but I miss him too.
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moonmaiden
speak softly and...
Spokane, WA 99204
52 posts, Sep 2001
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posted 05-13-2002 05:06 PM
this was not a lucid dream - just a "regular" nightmare - and my first chemtrail dream. (last night) - my family have constantly ignored my pleas to look up and educate themselves - in this dream they came to my house in a pack all sweaty w/ skin burning - I felt it outside too - it was hazy and tiny white flakes were falling and it was HOT - they helped me seal off all of the windows and start to gather water for storage. There was a white iguana whom I gave some water to and that's the extent of it. not really worth posting, I guess - I'm writing a paper on chemtrails for school - it's now 13 pages long  it's so hard to organize all of the info. I wish someone would write a simple direct paper 2 pages at the most - easy to read w/ just facts and photos and links that we could convert into a flyer and pass out everywhere - we could just download it from this site - print as many as we can afford individually and begin to spread the word since the media is not doing it. ANYONE? senior members - tech/sci guys and gals? lets do it!------------------
The soul takes flight into the world of the invisible, and there arriving is sure of bliss and forever dwells in paradise. - Plato
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bemorphy
New Member
Oroville, Ca. USA
2 posts, May 2002
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posted 05-14-2002 10:24 AM
About 11. I took a chemtrail picture where I work in Chico Ca. You can check it out at www.angelfire.com/realm/tersom1 Go to page 3. It started as one line, then became an x. Next time I went out to look it was roman numeral 11.
Haven't had much if any spraying here for a couple weeks.
This is my first post. ------------------
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mr.sinister
New Member
Wallingford, CT
9 posts, May 2002
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posted 05-14-2002 10:31 AM
Had an odd odd dream last night. At least I think it was a dream. I woke up abruptly because I arm had fallen asleep, this has happened before, but just prior to waking I watched something cutting rectagle shapes out of my skin down to the bone. No blood, but something just cutting like a laser or something taking these peieces of rectangle skin from me. I woke up because my entire arm was asleep right up to my shoulder. Now that was weird.
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Blue
New Member
Seattle, WA
22 posts, May 2002
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posted 05-20-2002 01:40 PM
Hi all, just found enough time to read this thread today. These collective chemtrail dreams are pretty fascinating. The red sky/underground theme has come across in my dreams too...when I was in high school, maybe 14 or 15. So this must've been 8 years ago I guess. In my dream, I was standing on a hill, a very green hill...the sky reddish pink all around me. Like mars. I knew that something from the sky was going to fall and destroy the earth...everyone did. To my left was a huge underground shelter, filled with people and I knew I had to go in quickly. The conditions were cramped - I was squished and I was about to close the door when a mother and child came running up. Only one of them could fit inside. I decided to give up my space so they could be together and I walked back outside. Behind me came a young man who volunteered to stay with me. He grabbed my hand and we both looked up at the pink sky as the end approached.
I hadn't thought about that dream in a long time...but it has sure lingered. I still get chills thinking about it. Here in Seattle the sky has been so pink for a few days now - in the middle of the day.
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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!
Stamford, CT, USA
1750 posts, Dec 2001
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posted 05-21-2002 12:08 AM
Welcome bemorphy.moonmaiden, your dream was definitely worth posting here. mr.sinister, that's really a weird dream. blue, many people have had similar dreams and they are frightening and tend to stay with us for a long time.
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mark sky
bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 05-21-2002 01:34 AM
last night i pulled a lucid dream where i was on a bike and "pulled a whellie" with the front tire in the air~ balence was supurb and i held the cast as
i sailed around curves in a land of nothing left but rocks of many brown colors
some crrysaline and glowing that i stopped to touch
but they grew milky white
no trees or green things did i see as i decended down the single path
i often daydream of a land where humankind ~ is just that
then unto a flat land of dead water upon both sides still
where cubik blocks were placed to walk upon
each 100 tons 25' by 25' and squed not in a straight line but offset
and no waves or movement in the water
not a fish or plant or bug to make wavesall around were great buildings
like washington dc palaces that no one had been in for an eternity
one had a bit of blue color left to it
but when i peered in to ask if anyone was there, the still waters and blocks of cubik rock, the dark halls, the far away voice
they said come hither unto
the voices were dead as was the water so next
a place between the "realities" of destruction and profits of doom
i found myself driving a van
the man on top had the throttle
while i had the rudder wheel
and we carriended down the mountain road
at great speed narrowly missing the cliffs
and through the canyons we did speed
once clipping a n orange traffic cone in the middle of the road
we flew through the air across the valley in flight
 then i woke up
and had a cup of joe
which was real~ly good
it took a day to goe back to dreamlandz where purple black clouds string along with sheep like ones~where newspaper presidents declair the read stories of goats to kids while towers fell
and black female spoaksmouths embelish lies
where lessor fools cant tread
pinch me quick
i cant tell which is the nightmare
once before the sky cleared to reveal troops suited in grey
with emblems
coed and international
standing in blockade
in the heavens above where they bounced prayer back from
and redirected praise toa communicatable disease blockade between they shunt passage i wept and they melted and high hopes was born
[Edited 2 times, lastly by mark sky on 05-21-2002]
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penumbra
quarky
North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 06-06-2003 07:26 AM
Bumped out of oblivion....
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Poco Loco
Senior Member
Oregon
54 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 06-11-2003 11:23 PM
Bemorphy: Jim Culbertson,PE at the Butte County office of Air Polution, 2525 Dominic, Suite J, should talk turkey with you. He's a real nice fellow to talk with and he's photographed activity that the appropriate people won't explain to him. I think we are talking serious air polution here. The Sacramento Valley air is a cesspool! Has our favorite topic been taken to KZFR? As you may know, they pretty much air what they please. Two years ago I tried to corner the Chico, Ch 24 weatherman but he wouldn't meet. I tried for three days! I did meet with his father, a prominent Chico attorney. The Dad thinks I'm nuts.
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Ellyn
Senior Member
1242 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 06-12-2003 03:46 AM
"All truth passes through 3 stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."~ Arthur Schopenhauer
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graeme
Senior Member
Sebastopol, CA, USA
171 posts, May 2003
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posted 06-12-2003 08:44 AM
Anyone look at the third or fourth post on this thread by nsasucks, dated 4.22.2001- this is all describing "an event taking place between the equinox and summer solstice 2003"? I hate it when people say things like that. Unfortunately I've heard a couple similar dates this spring.
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