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Topic: Chemtrails and lucid dreaming results | Topic page views:
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Chem11
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The Homeland 1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-22-2001 03:52 AM
Several years ago I had a rather disturbing nightmare regarding what would come to be known as 'chemtrails' and the possible purpose behind them. Wihtout divulging the contents on this 'dream' I set out to elicit responses from others regarding the framework of their nightvisions involving CT's.What I eventually found was quite amazing. Below is a brief analysis, and a link to the thread from which it was ripped: "I saw people being taken into underground system via some type of rail cars. These people were actually tricked in a way, in that they were led to believe they were headed somewhere else, when in fact the plan all along was to herd them for some kind of use, against their will. They were somehow tricked into heading to airports where they were subsequently herded underground somehow." - Prism11 " I look around us and see we are in a chained-link, fenced-in area with other USA citizens and we are standing in line, like in shock... WE WERE TRICKED....SOMEHOW WE WERE ALL TRICKED INTO THIS CAMP. "- Windy "As best as I can say, somehow I felt like we were being "held"- Exit Misery "I don't remember very many details about the dream just three words stand out in my mind. Those were: Chemtrails, Military, and New World Order."- Catnip57 "These people were sent on the trams underground on diverted rails to a place where chain link fence formed perimeters. People were fenced in, and led to believe they were being cared for in process."- Prism11 The above excerpts are all from posters relating their dreams and visions regarding the chemtrail phenomena. I had the idea to elicit this information after considering the implications of an exceptionally lucid and perplexing dream that I had immediatley prior to the onset of the chemtrail operation. This occurred sometime in early '98... I am in downtown Seattle. There are anamolous aircraft overhead, dispersing equally anamolous contrails. People are in a panic. I try and find out what is going on and someone tells me that the city is being evacuated. Some type of emergency is taking place. Now I'm standing in line, waiting to board what appears to be a TRAM or subway car of some type. There is a deep unease among the people here. Something is very wrong with this picture. I am also keenly aware that I feel drugged- dizzy, unfocused and generally stupified. But I know that this is a one-way ride. I'm also aware that we are being carefully watched. There are no military or police in uniform visible, but they are here... in plainclothes. A man in front of me is scanning the crowd. He carefully removes a handgun from his jacket. He turns to me and smiles. Then he puts the gun to his head.. and pulls the trigger. The distraction forces the plainclothes personnel to show their hand. The gun falls to my feet as they rush in. I'm going to stop there. Suffice to say, this particular group of people never boards the tram. I have never related the contents of this dream to anyone. Ever. Yet we have at least two other participants, Windy and Prism11, who have related the exact same vision, even down to the details of the trams and the awareness of being tricked onto them through some sort of orchestated emergency. In additon, Exit Misery and Catnip57 have expressed roughly similar themes in their narratives. It is impossible to dismiss the importance of this occurrence. Three people have shared one dream down to the the most minute and improbable details. Five of us appear to be on the same page in regards to the overall theme. None of us have espoused a "New World Order" agenda in the past. We are simply relating the contents of these remarkable visions to the best of our abilities. All, with the exception of myself, without knowing why this information was being elicited... http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailschemtrails.showMessage?topicID=4187.topic
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Chem11 on 04-22-2001]

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cydoniaquest
nobody
nowhere 803 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 04-22-2001 04:21 AM
Amazing!You're not going to believe this Chem 11, but I related a similar dream at Christy's board, Chemtrail & CO almost a year ago! Instead of railcars going underground, I saw police-type individuals in blue helmets herding people into the metal huts (like Quonset huts) suspended on scissors type mechanisms that hydraulically lowered people underground. I remember in the dream that people were being told it was all in their best interest and I was invited to join them, but suspected something very wrong was happening and that they were being deceived so I elected not to go with the rest of them....at the warnings that if I stayed above ground I might die. I remember seeing very vivid chemtrails over head in the dream....and a sort-of ruling elite group of people in big black Cadillacs who were partying seemingly oblivious to the social unrest around them as if they somehow didn't feel the need to follow the rules that applied to the rest of the great unwashed. I watched from behind a chain linked fence as my family was lowered into the ground begging me to come with, and me trying to tell them not to go....and not to trust the government. It was a very vivid and disturbing dream. The similarities to these other dreams are disturbing as well.

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Chem11
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The Homeland 1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-22-2001 04:50 AM
At this point, I'd believe just about anything, CQ. The over-riding theme appears to be of a deception perpetrated against the population utilizing an orchestrated emergency to essentially 'herd' the masses into underground facilities.Since I've always been subject to vivid nightmares and dreamscapes, I decided to put this one to the test. I don't know why, but I always felt that there was a greater meaning behind this particular dream I had. There are more similarities which require exploration, but I'd like to ask if anyone else has had dreams involving chemtrails, regardless of the context. Thanks in advance... Chem(11). 
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nsasucks
Chemtrails suck - alot!
Earth 530 posts, Jan 2001
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posted 04-22-2001 10:55 AM
You are all describing, as I understand it, an event to take place between the equinox and summer solstice, 2003. Not that far away.DIA is the main control point. Collection points will be ALL cities, your mileage may vary. Now I have never dreamt about that event, because as - again - I understand it, I won't be alive to witness it taking place. Life is short - for me! Also, I asked for these types of dreams and dream states to end and they did. I hated them. This isn't a depressing statement by any means, ya know. Just the direction I have chosen - Mr. BIGMOUTH - has its 3D consequences, as they say. Fine.
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Catnip57
Senior Member

Central Washington 527 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-22-2001 10:08 PM
Okay... this is a test.  
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Thermit
Tech

Houston, TX 2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-22-2001 10:16 PM
mic check, a mic checka...Welcome Catnip57.

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nsasucks
Chemtrails suck - alot!
Earth 530 posts, Jan 2001
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posted 04-22-2001 10:19 PM
A one anda two anda three...hey...here's a rancid idea...maybe everyone could submit their chemtrail lyrics for the song. 
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Catnip57
Senior Member

Central Washington 527 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-22-2001 10:26 PM
Well I should know by now that it's always important to make a copy of comments especially when posting to a new place. So now I'll try this for the second time.Yesterday I visited this forum and had the opprotunity to read some interesting threads. I had even thought about registering. Then today while reading the thread 'Unusual Nightmare' I noticed that it was being moved here. I had been wondering if it was going to be next for a lock out and bringing it here was probably the best idea since we won't have to worry about that happening here (hopefully). I'd hate to see this topic come to an end since I also think there is more to be explored here. And I've also got a few other dreams that I might eventually post later. I respect the decisions of those in charge of the Carnicom board knowing that it's important to present information that is more factual and informative. But I also value the freedom to explore other areas of insight or gut feelings. Anyway... I'm here now too and will share my wild theories for anyone who cares to read them. LOL 
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Catnip57
Senior Member

Central Washington 527 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-22-2001 10:49 PM
Thanks for the welcome Thermit... I look forward to participating here.
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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts

Lubbock, Texas 1347 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 04-22-2001 10:53 PM
Good to see you over here, Catnip. Bring on the wild theories.  
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Chem11
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The Homeland 1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-22-2001 11:48 PM
This be tha flame in tha cellar beware Nameless cold millions gaspin' for airMy thoughts exactly. Glad you could make it!

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KnewEyes
watcher

under those cloud-like things 665 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-24-2001 11:53 AM
Hello Everyone, I am hoping no one became upset because of my reporting the dream I had 40-41 years ago.I had also asked for an interpretation of it.Since I was a child of only 3 or 4 when I had this dream, it was a pretty uncomplicated one. After asking for an interpretation, for the giant birthday cake with one candle, it all suddenly dawned on me, what I believed it meant.I think I will keep it to myself at this point, and am sorry for posting what some may view as outlandish,but the only alternative to that would be to post lies, or exagerations.If anyone would like to talk to me about my personal experiences, because they have had similar ones, I welcome it.
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Thermit
Tech

Houston, TX 2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-24-2001 12:18 PM
Hello KnewEyes...Is there any more to your dream than a giant birthday cake with one candle? Just making sure I didn't miss something... 
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KnewEyes
watcher

under those cloud-like things 665 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-24-2001 12:48 PM
Thermit, Sorry I didn't post the whole dream here, for those who haven't read it.When I was 3 or 4, I had a dream, actually it was my first nightmare, and also the very first dream I ever remembered, and never forgot.Haven't thought about it for a very long time, until now. "I was in my house, at the top of the livingroom stairs, which faced the front door. I was riding my tricycle down the stairs (lol, this is a DREAM remember!) and was frightened by a huge eye, looking into the frontdoor window, that was built into the door.I ran outside, and there was a red giant ohhh, about 30 ft tall, and he was looking for me. Everything outside was red,... the sky, the ground, buildings, water,, everthing was the same dull red color, including this giant.I wasnt red though.I saw tall red buildings in the distance, and ran and hid under a bridge, or overpass. Underneath this bridge were a few other people like myself, not red,,, and also hiding. I remember them to be some old family friends from New Jersey. I think I was in New Jersey in the dream while under the bridge next to the city.Well, the giant passed us by, and didn't discover us.The last part of my dream was seeing a Huge giant sized red birthday cake with one candle in it,on the ground,next to this bridge we were hiding under, then I woke up.I had this dream 40-41 years ago.
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Chem11
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The Homeland 1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-24-2001 02:29 PM
Knew Eyes originally posted his/her dream on the carnicom thread. KE, is this somehow related to CT's? If not, that's fine. You've piqued my curiosity concerning the giant birthday cake with one candle...Give it up! 
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penumbra
quarky

North Carolina 668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-24-2001 02:52 PM
testing....
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penumbra
quarky

North Carolina 668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-24-2001 02:58 PM
Hi, I'm not even sure where to start... I have been lurking around for about 6 months, and at different times I have felt the need to post, but then something would change my mind. Chem11, this thread (I've been reading it with bated breath since you started it)has compelled me to finally come out of hiding. I have not had the same identical dream as you and prism11, but something in your telling of this has hit a raw nerve in me. I too have had dreams of red skies and underground. I have a question for chem11... Is the 11 in your name an accident or on purpose?
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Chem11
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The Homeland 1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-24-2001 03:21 PM
Funny you should ask, Penumbra. It ceratainly wasn't 'intentional' at the time, but there does seem to be some signifigance or synchronicity associated.You will know me by my number Everything happens for a reason. You're arrival and participation are no accident. Welcome to the board! Now, tell us what you've seen...
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KnewEyes
watcher

under those cloud-like things 665 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-24-2001 03:43 PM
Well Chem11, after mulling it over, really, for the first time since having this dream,and never really understanding it all these years, I suddenly thought that the giant birthday cake meant that I had seen, or been to, where the red giant had been for 1 year already.It was like an aniversary cake, a one year anniversary.Thats what dawned on me.I don't know if this relates to chemtrails, but somewhere in my bones tells me it does. As a child I always used to draw pictures and tell picture stories, about Red China,for some odd reason, I don't know why. I hear they are NOT being sprayed in China, Cuba, or the North Pole area.Now with this new angst between USA and China, I am wondering more about that dream. Back in those days,when I used to entertain myself with my writings and drawings, it was always Pegasus the flying horse whom I would ride away on, from any danger. I am feeling the need now to jump on Pegasus, and fly away from it all!
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penumbra
quarky

North Carolina 668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-24-2001 03:51 PM
Thank you for the welcome chem11! The number 11:11 has had an effect on me for most of my life. I never realized that it meant something to other people, until about the time I became CT aware. (about 7 months ago) One day I typed 11:11 into my browser, and wham! the results kinda blew my mind. So when you and prism11 had dreams similar to mine, it seemed way to siggnificant to be a coincidence. Not that I believe in coincidences anyway. 
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Chem11
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The Homeland 1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-24-2001 03:58 PM
Knew Eyes, where had the giant been for one year, specifically?Penumbra, tried typing 11:11 into my browser...nada. Gotta link? NSA, Don't you dare go anywhere! 
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penumbra
quarky

North Carolina 668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-24-2001 04:01 PM
As for the dreams... These dreams differ from my "regular" dreams in that they don't seem to have a plot. One of the dreams, I guess I've been having it for about 10-15 years, is as follows:I am standing in a cave in the mountains, I can't see very much because of the trees and rocks, the sky is red, it seems as if the air is on fire. End of dream. Another dream that for some reason seems to be related to the first one: I am digging a tunnel under the ground with my bare hands, there are other people around me also digging. We are going underground to get away from something... or are we already underground? I'm really not sure about that. Again, this is the end of the dream, no plot to either one of them. These have recurred now for years and years.
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penumbra
quarky

North Carolina 668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-24-2001 04:03 PM
Try http://www.greatdreams.com/ there is a whole section on it. Lots of varying ideas on what it is. Let me know what you think.
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Thermit
Tech

Houston, TX 2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-24-2001 04:08 PM
 
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penumbra
quarky

North Carolina 668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-24-2001 04:17 PM
Does that mean that 11:11 is significant to you to Thermit? I think I also recall mark Sky mentioning it at one point on Carnicom.?
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