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nsasucks
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Earth
530 posts, Jan 2001

posted 04-29-2001 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nsasucks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to help Gordon. Here I am "helping" you, Gordo....

Special Report by Michael Goodspeed
Reverse Speech Hobbiest, Portland OR
Michael's Web Site

Editorial Comment by David Oates: For many years futuristic prophet, Gordon Michael Scallion has been saying that in the late 90s, much of the coastline of mainline United States would break away into the ocean creating a new coast line. Why then, if Scallion really believes this, did he buy prime Florida real estate in the late 90s right when this event was supposed to happen and right in the middle of the danger area? The answer simply is, that he does not believe his own predictions. Of all the alternate Prophets I have examined for reversals in the last decade, Gordon Michael Scallion has had the worst reversals of all! They simply say he is deliberatly lying as a scam as opposed to someone who believes what they are saying even though they might be wrong. This is a big difference. How else can you explain why he bought property in an area where he has been telling everyone else to sell up and move out?! Michael Goodspeed's report is very revealing.

Flordia Real Estate Looks AOK To Gordon Michael Scallion
By Michael Goodspeed

Over the past 10 years, perhaps no figure in the field of psychic prophecy and professional doomsaying has received more attention than Gordon Michael Scallion. One of the most popular guests on late-night talk radio, and a staple of television-specials on psychic predictions, Scallion has achieved great notoriety by forecasting dire predictions for mankind and the planet earth. The most famous of these predictions is the allged "breaking-up" of the continental United States, an event whose date has been repeatedly adjusted by Scallion. This terrible catastrophe will supposedly be caused by giant tsunamis, triggered by the melting of the polar ice caps, and magnetic pole shifts.

For most of the 1990's, Scallion has been selling to the public, at $10.00 a pop, his reputed "future map" of the USA, which shows many states on the western and eastern seaboards under water. Florida is one state that is unfortunately effected, with 50-70% of its land mass being swallowed.

Here is an important piece of information for those of you who still cling to the notion that Scallion is the "Real McCoy," in spite of the dozens of instances that he's been provably wrong: In 1998, Gordon Michael Scallion purchased approximately one quarter-million dollars worth of real estate in an area which he has forecast to be decimated in the near future.

An independent source requesting anonymity recently faxed me the actual property transfer record from Sarasota County, Florida. It shows that on March 3, 1998, Scallion and his wife purchased a condominium in Venice, Florida at a sale price of $267,500. On Scallion's most recent edition of the future map, Venice, Florida no longer exists.

Here is the actual property record in question: - Click on smaller image to see larger image
http://www.reversespeech.com/scall.htm

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cydoniaquest
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803 posts, Aug 2000

posted 04-29-2001 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah...David Oates...that's the guy I was thinking of....

I agree that many of these guys are hoaxers. I've always disliked this doom and gloom "quickening" aspect of Art's show. I've just accepted that as part of Art's nature and part of the entertainment of what he does (people seem morbidly drawn to doom and gloom by nature). I also believe that this is a deep part of Art's own belief system but I never saw the point of drumming up fear when there is nothing we can do about it anyway. Major Ed Dames for example, said he saw nothing after the Y2K event, indicating that he thought his Earth destroying solar flare prediction would happen around that time....yet Y2K came and went (no Earth destroying solar flare) and Art continues to have him on his show, claiming that time-lines are hard to give with psychic prdictions. In addition, he continues to allow Dames to sell his RV tapes as if there is nothing wrong with his credibility at all!

But Art never claims to be presenting truth.....just interesting guests. It's a buyer-beware form of radio, where the audience must determine fact from fiction....and he's fully aware of this, often states this fact. In my opinion, it's precisely due to this free format, that the most fascinating ideas are allowed to come forward....and I can appreciate that.

You can't take many of these guests all that seriously, but then Art does mix some good ones in there from time to time, like Peter Davenport.

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nsasucks
Chemtrails suck - alot!

Earth
530 posts, Jan 2001

posted 04-29-2001 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nsasucks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Art also has a history -well established - of going after anyone who takes him to task...lawyers, calls, email bombs, the works.


...yeah...it's just entertainment.

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cydoniaquest
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posted 04-29-2001 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And he admits it.

Art readily admits that he is a believer in revenge. I would be too if a teacher sexually assaulted my son. I would be quick to counter if someone sent me a letter that claimed to have anthrax within it.

I support Art's approach to dealing with those who attack the famous. They all must have counter measures. Rush doesn't go anywhere without an entourage of body guards for example.

It's entertainment for the audience.....but certainly not fun and games for someone in Art's or Rush’s position.

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nsasucks
Chemtrails suck - alot!

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530 posts, Jan 2001

posted 04-29-2001 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nsasucks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not talking about revenge. I am talking about destroying people who have publicly disagreed with him, as most know.

Let's keep it on track.

Also, have moved the whole series over to freeform, where it is better suited as these arn't necessarily related to CTs, where additional info will be posted.

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cydoniaquest
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posted 04-30-2001 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
90% of the stuff being discussed here is unrelated to chemtrails. Interesting that you just now are seeing this.

And no...most people do not know that Art has a history of destroying people who simply disagree with him. I have never heard this.

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nsasucks
Chemtrails suck - alot!

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530 posts, Jan 2001

posted 04-30-2001 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nsasucks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe I DID see it...that's why I moved the data and other topics to FREEFORM, where that kind of nonsense can go on. I consider any energy of these fellows as a waste, but since it seems to be the rage to defend these public "servants" at least coming from an informed viewpoint will help people judge the value of what they have to say...


...and that's my point. Streiber and others are saying chemtrails don't exist. People are believing them. These efforts are to reveal that these men and some women (tho very few, really) may have mixed motives in so claiming the government line. That then makes this very ON TOPIC.

Even so, I feel, considering I have taken it upon myself to at least see if they should be taken seriously and why or why not, to move the threads over to FREEFORM, which occured in the same hour this was posted in this section.

Is my turn again...this time from you? Fortuneatly, unlike CTTUSA and Cliff's board, there is NO censorship here, only expressed viewpoints. That kind of attitude about free speech and free expression sucks, doesn't it? I mean...how dare I.

PS. I think Art would be proud to know that you are defending him and his show so well...considering no one is taking Mr. Bell to task. Should we? I don't have the energy personally, when there are so many other interesting topics to be looked at...THAT RELATE TO CHEMTRAILS.

Thank you.

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