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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-30-2001 12:49 PM
   
I'm considering creating an "OT" (off topic) forum for threads that often wind up here, but really don't quite fall under the category of "Chemtrail and Related".Some examples of threads that would be moved to the new forum would probably include those like the "Antarctica" and "Neu Schwabenland", etc. and could be a home for other interesting topics as well. I'm interested if anybody has feedback about this new forum and what criteria might be used for determining what topics are beyond the scope of the "Chemtrail and Related" forum.
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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts
Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 04-30-2001 01:05 PM
My two cents: I think the reason so many of us fled the Carnicom board is that we think the Antarctica, et cetera, stuff is actually "on topic."We've spent months discussing what, when, where and how. I've taken chemtrail photos until I'm sick of them. I've clogged a whole section of my hard drive with other people's chemtrail photos. I'm finally at the point that I'm worried when they *don't* spray. In the absence of fresh data, I think we're now trying to get at the who and the why. We seem to have taken a detour into wacko conspiracy theories at this point, but if nsasucks is shoveling us a load of BS, we'll figure that out eventually. As usual, I'm often wrong, so what does everybody else think?
[Edited 1 times, lastly by 3T3L1 on 04-30-2001]
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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist
East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-30-2001 01:15 PM
I'm new here but it seems to me that the strict OT guidelines at Carnicom brought many of us here. 3T3's point is well taken, those topics that first appear to be OT or way in left field often wind their way back around to why we are all on these boards in the first place...CTs and all that they imply. For me I think if a thread isn't desirable to the group it will die a quick and merciful death in the normal course of our actions or lack thereof.
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-30-2001 01:21 PM
Point taken 3T3L1...I'm not trying to deny some's vision of a bigger picture with Chemtrails being a part of a puzzle...just wondering if a bit more organization would be appreciated. Some benefits of a new forum would be: 1. No need for people to put O/T in their topic name...
2. Those interested in Chemtrails, but not all conspiracy theory topics and other topics wouldn't need to mentally filter.
3. Creates a legitimate home for all "OT" discussions, so people can feel more free to explore these areas.
4. No issues of people becoming concerned about others bumping non-Chemtrail threads
3T3, I curious how Antartica is considered "on topic" to "Chemtrails and Related"...  ?
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 04-30-2001 01:32 PM
Hi Thermit, from my point of view, some of the topics that may seem OT are aimed at showing the levels of secrecy used by 'TPTB'/government/aliens that would probably also relate to secrecy about chemtrails. To get at the truth we need to show how we are being kept in the dark about a number of other subjects. It would seem logical that if we uncover other secrets, 'trails' would lead back to the origins of chemtrails.I agree with everyone elses point too. For hardcore scientist-types that won't believe anything they can't prove themselves, I guess I can understand their frustration and a need for separation of topics also in light of a major difference in perceptions of 'the way things are' between members. Political/religious arguments often get disruptive, so I don't know what I'd do as a moderator, guess I'd ask for suggestions too. You can't please everyone, so whatever you do is fine with me. I appreciate your efforts to be fair to everyone.
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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts
Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 04-30-2001 01:33 PM
I'll bite! Because nsasucks alleges that there are no chemtrails over Antarctica?I use alleges because I just found out that maps of Antarctica practically don't exist on the web. Why is that? And if there really are no chemtrails over Antarctica, why is that? This might prove to be a dead end, but the dog that didn't bark is sometimes a legitimate clue. Back to you, Thermit...
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-30-2001 01:33 PM
FLKook, like I mentioned I'm not wanting to kill the OT discussions, quite the opposite, I would like to give them a legit home...
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-30-2001 01:47 PM
Thanks for the comments so far...In addition to your suggestions and comments, we'll take a vote too...
A.
Keep everything the same, except "Chemtrail and Related" becomes "Chemtrails and More".-or- B.
Create additional "Everything Else" forum for other conspiracy and off-topic discussions.
Unless y'all say otherwise, 3T3 and FLKook, I'm assuming you're vote goes for A...
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cydoniaquest
nobody
nowhere
803 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 04-30-2001 01:47 PM
I think it's a good idea![Edited 1,333,195,666 times, lastly by cydoniaquest on 4-30-2001]
[Edited 7 times, lastly by cydoniaquest on 04-30-2001]
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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts
Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 04-30-2001 01:50 PM
Yes, I would vote for "A."It seems as if board participants choose topic #1, whatever it is, to write their current musings. If somebody new would like hardcore data, they can go to Chemtrail Stories or News or Health. Maybe you could just add a label to Chemtrail and Related which directs new readers to those topics? Nice wav file, Cy. I'll see your 1,333,195,666 edits and raise you to... [Edited 6.0221367 x 10^23 times, lastly by 3T3L1 on 4-30-2001]
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-30-2001 02:33 PM
Am I gonna have to take the edit feature away... ...hehe...Okay, everyone get your comments and votes in...
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nsasucks
Chemtrails suck - alot!
Earth
530 posts, Jan 2001
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posted 04-30-2001 02:51 PM
Zounds! Didn't mean to start a storm of whatever...sorry...but I am for a seperate header if that will keep people from using that OT as a weapon to disparage good data. The truth is, most people (and I am guilty of this) only come to this section. They might/would miss some heavy stuff that is happening right now...like the Streiber intel. I mean...who knew about that guy? I didn't until I started digging. He should've kept his mouth shut, but he didn't (agency should know by now when to hold 'em, fold 'em and stand) and now all his denials are being analyzed with his own earlier statements made to the press and he is at cross-purposes with HIMSELF. Dang!The more I dig...the more I realize he has been agency from out of the box...and again, that verifies for you all...what we are saying about all this Mkid stuff and hypnosis...remember it was Streiber's movie COMMUNION that first started me on the road to freedom, and I'm sure all Unintential by the shop and Streiber. meant as a cover, it actually blew mem caps. And now he is busted with his own data from his own books, public statements and interviews. And that's their problem - LIARS CAN NEVER KEEP THEIR LIES STRAIGHT. They contradict themselves. THank God for this board...this would have never come out otherwise and everyone here knows it. So you DAs out there...go ahead...keep calling me aliar and whatever else you can think up cuz all you are doing - by drawing first blood - is making me prove my point and exposing you. Think things through from now on and show some intelligence. You can do it! Regards sections - whatever you think is right is right by me. So, I guess i am voting for B, but hopefully people will go there to get the goods.
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penumbra
quarky
North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-30-2001 03:57 PM
Thermit,
I think it would be a good idea to have a separate forum for "related" topics. When I directed a friend to the carnicom board, I suggested that she read the message board backwards from page 20, due to the fact that the first few pages had gotten so interesting. My suggestion:
1. Create a new forum named "Related Topics".
2. Rename Chemtrails and Related "Chemtrails" and maybe underneath put scientific data, news, etc., and let that be the hard evidence forum.
3. Maybe rename Chemtrail Stories "Chemtrail Observations".
Of course, I like it the way it is now, and whatever you choose will be great I'm sure!
I appreciate everything you are doing!
[Edited 1 times, lastly by penumbra on 04-30-2001]
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desert flower
KICKASS GODDESS
lala land
165 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-30-2001 04:20 PM
I love that little winking guy---I think I'll just use him from now on----oh oh I'm OT---
Yeah, I vote for plan "B"---that way we can loosen up a little and get to know each other---or is that a little too OT?
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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist
East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-30-2001 05:29 PM
Thermit; your alright giving us the "vote"; I like the idea of leaving CT and related alone and starting a thread for CT Scientific Data. Guess I'm voting A with a splash of B....sorry, I was a trouble maker in school. BTW, since when is YOUR board a democracy. You decide, we'll live with it. Much friendlier than Carnicom...what are we going to do? Move back there? Migrate somewhere else? You've adopted us bro. (too busy for smiles and cool wav files...insert your favorites here)
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KnewEyes
watcher
under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-30-2001 06:18 PM
3T3L1.... Try doing a search and type in the words "The Hollow Earth". Lots about Antartica there.Thats where you might find an explanation about no mapping of that area, and the other "pole" also. It tells about Admiral Byrds discoveries there,and another man who wrote a book called "The Smoky God".Very interesting.Sorry I'm OT, heheh, and I say,your proposition is a good one Thermit! Later added:Yep , was way off tonight, must have been the heavy spraying that occured today after the almost 4 day lapse! I know I am new, but I vote A.
I am a believer, that everything ties in with each other, and that some conclusions are drawn from odd, or opposite sources, if allowed to flow naturally. My 2 cents.
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RidesTheWind
visionary
The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 04-30-2001 06:20 PM
Hey guys...You put me down for A. I like the changes the board goes through.Its part of watching the whole journey ya know? I will say the length of the posts is getting a bit much at times, but interesting for sure.I think you guys should make a book from the posts after this is all over and it could operate on solar power and play Mr.Skys music and of course Hail To The Thief
when you open it up!!.....RTW
After thought:
I think there really needs to be a serious chemtrail spot for new comers cause I know when you first get in here you are flying on chemtrail dust and thats all you think eat and sleep and you need to talk about it! When you've mellowed out,taken in the bigger picture and see theres not much we can do to stop any of this anyway, then you slide back into where we are now. I still say changing our consciousness and working towards the millionth monkey is the key to this.
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Molliani
Senior Member
Illinois
422 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 04-30-2001 06:33 PM
Thermit,
I'll vote for B.
OT comment:
Apply a common sense
approach as to why you're unlikly to
find contrails/chemtrails over
Antarctica.
Do we need a basic 101 course
in Applied Thinking?
Gee, what a conspiracy! !
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n2GUToEs
New Member
10 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-30-2001 07:01 PM
I would vote for B.
I lurked for months at Carnicom and I was really happy to find that the discussions are going on here!
Antarctica, Mind Control, Nazi CIA, alien abductions, gov. abductions, NWO, Antichrist, . . . etc. etc. and Chemtrails? I am one of those who thinks they are all related and I've seen a tic tac toe board in the sky and enough trails to convince me I'm not paranoid because they really ARE out to get me! Now I want to know who or what is really behind ALL the crap, what's coming next, and how to find the escape hatch. This is one of the two places I've found where people seem to be getting at the Truth.
Thanks!
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ExitMisery
Senior Member
MO USA
23 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-30-2001 08:31 PM
Think I'll vote B too - it is kind of a hard decision as it is interesting to see where all these threads go when weaved together, however, choice B might help with more pure chemtrai awareness on the part of new people wandering into the site... Boy, NewWorldHorror really went off on Cliff over at the Carnicom board - ya'll oughta wander on over and take a glance if you haven't already done so before the posts get yanked (oh, I just love gossip, LOL!)
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Anne
Senior Member
Napa, CA USA
123 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 04-30-2001 08:52 PM
I vote for B too. I read all the topics and I do think sometimes things get a bit mixed up when all in one topic and sometimes you can miss things too. There have been times on Carnicom that new posts are missed if a lot of new topics appear.
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Catnip57
Senior Member
Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-30-2001 10:16 PM
Okay, you can put me down for option A but with a extra idea here. Let the main category be "Chemtrails and Related"... but add a category called maybe "Chemtrail Introductions" for the newbies. That will help them become acquainted with the issue and learn some basics. Then you might also have a category listed as "Chemtrail Facts" This would be a place for all the factual information that's been discovered so far and all that intellectual stuff that the scientist types really get into.The only thing about trying to post new information in the other off topic categories is that sometimes people don't see them there and then nobody makes any comments on the threads so the conversation goes stagnant before it gets a chance to even get started. We can always put OT in front of the subject line to warn those not interested to move onto something more "CT" related.
However, I've found some really interesting topics in some of these OT categories and I'm really glad to have the freedom to pursue these ideas.
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Delphi
Mystic Warrior
S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 04-30-2001 10:50 PM
Thermit, (B) I suppose as it is practical and could allow for diversification elsewhere and not blend in with the chemtrail situations...though, as others have stated, often, the darndest subject will end up seeming relevant to chemtrails even if not at first look. Anyway, I like this forum either way so if no change occurrs, that's o.k. too. Still B tho. Blessings, Joanne
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nsasucks
Chemtrails suck - alot!
Earth
530 posts, Jan 2001
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posted 04-30-2001 11:01 PM
If we all have to move, can I take a dog with us? He only craps on carpet and chews up shoes, but other than the occasional lunge for your throat while you're sleeping he's fine...if you don't count his howling until five am each night and the fact that he's brought some pretty f**ked up diseases into the house and all those open sores; hey...like I say...all around a good doggy...and he won't go for your leg more than twenty or twenty times...tops...in any fifteen minutes.Keep the dog?
[Edited 1 times, lastly by nsasucks on 04-30-2001]
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Chem11
megasprayer news
The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-30-2001 11:34 PM
This is really close, but I'm going to vote "A".My reasons are as follows: 1) Thermit's site is extremely well laid-out, especially for beginners. The research and image database are prominently featured and easily accessible. If you check out 'Who's online" you'll see that most of the 'guests' are usually digging through the database or checking out Thermit's research.
Forums are what make a website "sticky", what keeps people coming back. And this forum sticks like bubblgum on blacktop. If it ain't broke... 2) I've yet too see a forum where the subsections weren't totally ignored. 3) It's going to be awfully difficult to discern what's OT and what not. As far NSA is concerned, advanced military research is OT. Ask Deborah and I'm sure she will think anything NWO related is OT. 4) Collectively, we seem to be at a point where we are beginning to look for answers in different directions. It may turn out that the OT section becomes the main focal point, leaving the CT forum to whither. That being said, I myself am a little concerned how OT the main forum is becoming. Suggestion: if you feel that the forum is going to far off base, post you own on-topic thread. Things have a way of evening out. I don't if or how long Clifford's board is going to remain viable. Ezboard is in a tight spot and particpation is nowhere what it used to be. I hope things work out over there, Windy is posting some great research and I would assume Deborah just needs to take a break for a while. My fingers are crossed for them. But if things don't work out, then perhaps would be the time to re-organize the forum. No matter what happens, I don't think I'll be heartbroken. I'm going to take a little break myself, I think. This whole Strieber thing is really dis-illusioning. You did a really great job, NSA. Thanks for the assist. I hope somebody picks up where we left off... maybe Rense or MUFON will jump on this. You know, there aren't too many webmasters who ask the people in the forum to vote on the layout of their site. This is a pretty special corner of cyberspace. Thanks, Thermit777. 
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