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chemtrailsorg
Chemtrails.org Admin

Austin,TX,US
122 posts, May 2001

posted 05-06-2001 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chemtrailsorg   Visit chemtrailsorg's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the internet is far too impersonal and I like to put a face to what I say because I am willing to back what I say. I am real and I am doing what I can every day.
The picture is my standard media file shot.

That is how I look most of the time.
Hard to smile when you know just how phukt-up this planet is with it's current bunch of old snake conspirators running the place.

I look like what I do.

I stare into the void and bring what order to it that I can.

What the heck else is there to do.

And no I am not looking for a date. I am terrible company. I am far too obsessive and single minded to have around all the time.

Far better for me to go out in public in the day and return to my cave at night in the cracks of the world. Much safer that way for my line of work. You know Austin is a bat capitol of Texas. Lots of hang outs for sky mammals and they are well accepted here. Loved even.

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cydoniaquest
nobody

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803 posts, Aug 2000

posted 05-06-2001 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like your style, Mike!

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Aura
Senior Member

Southern Indiana
95 posts, May 2001

posted 05-06-2001 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike--

I don't understand your problem with the "paranoia" aspect of chemtrails. All you have to do is look at the governments track record in the past. (both "real" and "imagined)

I personally believe this Spray Excercise began with good intentions..weather mod, sun screen, etc. But once the egotistical bastards decided they could use the program for other excercises as well..bio immunization, mind control, DNA mod..well they created a monster even they can't undo.

Now they are backtracking and trying to find someone to blame it on. Such as the "Asian Dust Storm" dropping China's trash on us, increased reports of Mid-East biowarfare testing..the only thing they can do now is go to war and hope it all comes out in the wash!

Face it WE ARE SCREWED!

Good luck on your new venture, just remember if you get too close to the truth, you may have a different understanding of NsaSucks.

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chemtrailsorg
Chemtrails.org Admin

Austin,TX,US
122 posts, May 2001

posted 05-06-2001 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chemtrailsorg   Visit chemtrailsorg's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I intend to get as close to the truth as is possible without getting snuffed for it.

I have said before and will again here I am only going to publish what can be backed up with at least some facts. If I publish nothing but chicken little reports and paranoid speculation I am going to get ignored by 98% of the population of this planet.

That would be a terrible waste of my resources and time. Right now my site is the first one looked at by a large portion of the public that is looking for answers on this chemtrails phenomona.

Do a search on http://www.msn.com for chemtrails and see what site is first on that search return.

Now try one on http://www.google.com and you will notice that again my site is at or near the top of the list.

Now go ask Jeeves at http://www.ask.com
"what are chemtrails?" and you will see again my site is at or near the top of the list.

The people who are asking these questions are not going to take my site very seriously if it is full of paranoid speculation and is soft on data they can at least understand or accept. These are the people I feel responsible for educating on this topic. I don't want to run them off because I come off as some raving NO-NWO protestor.

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Aura
Senior Member

Southern Indiana
95 posts, May 2001

posted 05-06-2001 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike-

I can definately repect that attitude from your standpoint. The major problem is that "PROOF" is virtually impossible to come by.

There is tons of information out there showing that it can be done.. that it is being done! There is also a ton of information showing different agendi for this technique. But no one is leaking any information as to why or what for.

I have always found that the one with the most to hide is the one that has screwed up the worst. This of course is just my personal observation.

In your search for truth don't forget to factor in the other weird things that are happening...HAARP being possibly the biggest.

I truly do respect your courage and integrity on your reporting. I wish you the best of luck!! We all want to know the TRUTH!

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cydoniaquest
nobody

nowhere
803 posts, Aug 2000

posted 05-06-2001 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike I notice your current web-site deals with your book on UFO propulsion systems....a subject by the way, that I find more fascinating than chemtrails. Can I get your book in stores yet? Do you think chemtrails may be related to UFOs?

I have some theories on UFO propulsion myself, and I always felt there were inter-dimensional or extra-dimensional aspects to them. I know the word "inter-dimensional" sound like I've been watching too much science fiction...but I truly mean it as it sounds. I believe UFOs have the capablity of transitioning and transforming matter and energy between this physical dimension and one just above this one that exists in the same space at a higher vibrational frequency. In other words, they have the capability of entering the same dimension in which ghosts, poltergeists and out of body travelers enter.....but they can somehow take the physical matter of their vehicles and bodies with them.

Since all matter is really energy at a lower molecular vibratory frequency...I think these beings have the capability of adjusting the frequency of their own matter to the point that it becomes energy, without destroying the molecular patterns of the matter in the process.....similar in concept to the Star Trek transporter.......but alas, I digress from the chemtrail subject.

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chemtrailsorg
Chemtrails.org Admin

Austin,TX,US
122 posts, May 2001

posted 05-06-2001 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chemtrailsorg   Visit chemtrailsorg's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The text of my book is going to be a free download pretty soon, as soon as I finish a few more updates in it.

Let me know and I will email you a copy of the text in PDF format. The patents discussed in the book are mostly available at delphion.com so you can get those online.

Again only talking about what I can understand and explain to others without a lot of heavy math. Also without too much speculation into what is just too esoteric for anyone to explain. That is just not my style.

If I get to the point where I can explain and understand the multi-dimensional aspects of the Elder Gods and their light ships that will be quite a leap for me.

I am just not there yet.

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cydoniaquest
nobody

nowhere
803 posts, Aug 2000

posted 05-06-2001 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that part of the problem is that we get too complex for our own good. We want to explain everything with mathematical equations....sort of make nature conform to the artificial model rather than the other way around (if you know what I mean). Computers for example, are unbelievably complex, as is just about any modern electronic circuitry, yet Tesla may have found a way to bridge interdimensional energy barriers around the turn of the century, with no component more complex than you would find in your local five and dime or hardware store.

Ancient mystics have long claimed to be masters of interdimensional travel....as are we all upon the day we die. In fact it may be a very natural thing to do every time we go to sleep.

I think the trick is not so much move the ocean as it is to ride the wave. In other words we seem to think we have to make the waves before we can learn to surf....when in reality, the waves always existed....we just have to realize the surfer has no chance of moving the ocean....but he can do great things if he understands the timing of each wave.

In a similar sense, the nature and physics for interdimensional and hyperdimensional travel already exists. We don't need to re-invent the physics...just need to open the door.

So what method could be used to open this doorway? Well, I've always suspected the answers lie in electricity. I mean think about the nature of electricity for a minute. We still don't fully understand it, but we know that all sorts of phenomenon that cannot be directly measured are associated with it. Magnetism for example is a force that we cannot directly measure. I mean, we can measure it's effects on a material and the forceof attracttion in terms of pressure....but we cannot measure this substance that travels between metals that causes the resultant attraction. In the same way, we can measure weight by the acceleration acting upon a mass....but we can't measure gravity itself. What is this substance that travels between bodies of matter?

Well electricity seems tied to both forces. Obviously electricity is tied to magnetism, but we are also recently discovering that it has certain gravitational effects as well and opens up a whole new field of electro-gravitics. So electricity itself may be the bridge between this dimension and the next. It affects both physical matter....and it also affects unseen forces like magnetism and gravity.

Tesla understood this concept. People normally associate Tesla with electricity, and he is famous for the invention of the multiphase alternating current generator (among many other things) but what most don't realize is that Tesla was actually trying to manipulate another form of energy altogether....an energy he referred to as “ether”. I envision the concept of ether as a substance that exists and fills all space, yet has little or no mass. It is truly the energy of the other dimension. It is perfectly dense as well and therefore incompressible, meaning that information imposed upon the ethereal medium would be instantly transmitted at superluminal velocities....at the speed of thought. Electricity is the force that interacts with ether, and by controlling electricity we can therefore control ether fields. It's an amazingly simple concept if I were to diagram it.

Information and matter placed in an ether field would defy known physics, because it would no longer be subjected to the limitations and physical laws of the material dimension.....the very characteristics witnessed in UFO sightings.

Oh yeah…back to chemtrails…..

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Chem11
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The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-06-2001 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Raving NO-NWO protesters?!? We would be so lucky as to attract one tenth the amount of WTO activists that protested here in Seattle.

These people don't type away on their computers, telling everyone how their long defunct website is number one in CT research.

They protest.

They get beaten.

They get gassed.

They get hauled off to jail.

An it only gets worse from there. I have more respect for these Birkenstock wearing tree-huggers than anyone in the CT community, including myself.

Chemorg, we are going to square-off soon. And it won't be long.

If so many people are going to your site, then why have you not updated your conclusion page?

I'm sorry, but CT's are not dispersed by commercial aircraft.

I've heard this bullshit before. Once. Chickie Deb and her "Look, FE proves these are just contrails from commercial jets" nonsense.

If you no longer support this untenable claim, then I suggest you remove it from your website. Seeing as how so many people go there.

If this is the case, why is your forum DOA?

If this is the case, why does your site look like something somebody whipped up in three or four hours and promptly forgot about?

If you had a problem with NSA referring to your site as being 'agency', then defend your site. Don't start hurling insults and try to label him as some paranoid pothead. While not strictly CT related, NSA has posted more valid, verifiable research in this forum in the last two weeks than you appear to have done in you entire 'career'.

So get off your ego-trip. I, for one, am not impressed.

BTW, I believe Tesla referred to this untapped energy source you and Cy were discussing as teleforce

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cydoniaquest
nobody

nowhere
803 posts, Aug 2000

posted 05-06-2001 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nobody's interested in interdimensional physics, I see.

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Delphi
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S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 05-07-2001 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, but chemorg could use a "good physic", enema, etc. as there still might be a tinge of BS left in him. SOP going on, huh, NSA and Chem11, ready to squareoff anytime soon? I'm with ya. Oh, and I got close up pics of low level spraying...gonna be shown for April pics. Chem. org. was a Mickey Mouse operation with one particular posting that tried to send me to "problematic" site. Hey, NSA, maybe we ARE wrong..maybe they aren't agents, just "multiples" or something...notice how quick Dirk got replaced??

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Chem11
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The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-07-2001 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NSA is history, Delphi. And right now I am too damn mad to do what needs to be done in a professional and meticulous manner.

Correction: I am seething.

But know this, 'Teksphere'... I am not done with you.

Not by a long shot.

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Delphi
Mystic Warrior


S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 05-07-2001 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chem11, What happened to NSAsucks? If you need a hand, I'll help....If he's gone, I'm mad too!!

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cydoniaquest
nobody

nowhere
803 posts, Aug 2000

posted 05-07-2001 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I happen to agree with Mike. There is too much nonsense out there that gives the subject of chemtrails a lack of credibility. Calling everyone who disagrees with you an agent also doesn't do your cause any good. If you're honest with yourself, I think you'll see that.

If Mike wants to start a site that seriously deals with the issue...without all the secret government conspiracy “agent” type ramblings and BS that make anyone new to this subject think we're all a bunch of nuts and turn away...then I say you should support that Delphi.

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cydoniaquest
nobody

nowhere
803 posts, Aug 2000

posted 05-07-2001 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh...and why do you say NSAsucks is history Chem11? Do you know something we don't?

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chemtrailsorg
Chemtrails.org Admin

Austin,TX,US
122 posts, May 2001

posted 05-07-2001 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chemtrailsorg   Visit chemtrailsorg's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am reading through these posts and I am only sure of one thing. The Chem11 posts are simple goading and have little impact on me. If you want me to simply shove off what ever.

I simply came here to post out of response at getting labeled CIA by this MrSucks, It pissed me off, you want to stick on some more labels without much more thought then the last tryer then go for it.

Facts support themselves. You know where to find me and my real deal operation and serious in person approach.

I have seen nothing that can not be shot down on any site including my own. I am at least not fooling myself with some invisible self importance.

Square off with me.. Chem11?

You?
Who are you?
What is your name? were is your voice?

You think that my coming out and making my voice heard took no courage, and is worth nothing? You discount what I have done? What have you done? You? Where is your work?

Link it. I am interested.

You know squat about me, and you should think through what you say. Are you as real as me? Let us see. I fear nothing. I am as honest as pain on a cold day.

I feel every thing. I am so empathic to the suffering of this world, so much I can not shut it off. That is why I do what I do.

My site only suffers from being a one man show. One man with a mission and not a lot of time and resources. Want to help out?

It is the functioning of an adept to alleviate as much suffering as we can. web site work was not included with the training. That has been kind of slow going.
I do what I can and I make no excuses. I do what I can. What I do can be measured. Lets stack up works and see who has what.

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Chem11
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The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-07-2001 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did just that, soldierboy. I did just exactly that...

Cy, there's a lot going on right now. This is really, quite serious.

Delphi, you can help. Read the links on the new thread. And pray for our friend.

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Delphi
Mystic Warrior


S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 05-07-2001 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, Cybore, I just state my opinion just like chemorg. and you and I DON'T have to agree with you either....This is all turning into a bunch of silly, kindergarten bull...Who cares who likes who...this is no popularity contest, like Chem 11 says, it's serious business...I personally don't care if any one is an agent or not, big deal. And the only newcomers that would leave the board would be "weinies" who feel intimadated by all the "veiled threats" bull...if they are here because of concern about chems, someone who is honestly concerned and cares about this ole earth and the people in it isn't going to leave....you don't give folks enuf credit to "spot" the negative disinfo. from genuine chem savy activism. Ya'll give yourself too much credit thinking everyone is quaking in fear because they think there may be agents here...hmmmm. For Intel. type folks, there is also "Counter-Intel"...wonder if some posters here are counter-intel?? Hmmmm. Or Faction 2 or 3 or some other counter-alphabet-dealey...it's possible. Paranoia in reverse. I think I've wasted enuf time here, time for phase 2. Play your silly little games here while the "real" deal keeps on truckin. "Freedoms just another word for nothin left to loose..."/ "Big wheels keep on a turnin, proud Mary keeps on *******

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RidesTheWind
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The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 05-07-2001 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Man I go for a day and come back to this s**t
I really am sorry to watch this all go down again.What we have here is a simple case of some people who have moved on to higher frequencies and have awakened and some who are still buried s**t deep in shadowland and have no idea what they are even talking about.These threads will drive any chemtrail fighter away faster than anything,and that may well be whats going down here.Petty and
senseless in fighting...They are loving this.
Once again I will say this and no more: All
thoughts that leave your mind have complete
consciousness, so if you are thinking hate,
feeling angry or fearful,you are putting that out into the universe and soon it shall manifest itself.We all need to realize that words have great power,far greater than we ever realized and this action taking place is far more destructive than productive. It
feels like a chemtrail website has become a site for all government fearing people to vent hate.I do not doubt alot of what is talked about is very real,but talking about it continually keeps it alive. I hope that message gets through eventually.There are some really good folks here but we have lost our direction and purpose it would seem. I guess you can all turn on me now and call me agency, I hope not. You would be so far from the truth it would be amusing.Come on guys,
lets get back to why we really came together in the first place.................RTW

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cydoniaquest
nobody

nowhere
803 posts, Aug 2000

posted 05-07-2001 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's see, I was trying to engage the man in a positive, healthy discussion about his book, a subject which may be off topic from chemtrails, but never-the-less, one which I find fascinating.

Who keeps wanting to turn back to all the insults and name-calling?

Read back the thread....Be honest now!

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defender
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1115 posts, Oct 2000

posted 05-07-2001 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for defender     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Posting your true identity on a website can be dangerous to anyone for a number of reasons. Never be prodded into giving your identity to anyone, even if they claim that giving you their identity is some sign of integrity or courage. You never know who you're dealing with. If they want your identity, you have to ask yourself why they would need that. Why should someone you've never met or talked to, want to know who or where you are?

This is not referring to CIA or other govt agencies, just any cranks or quacks who get on the web to get their 15 minutes (or longer!) of fame.

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Chem11
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The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-07-2001 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent advice, Defender. I would also advise against visiting suspect websites without using a proxy IP address. If you do use a proxy service, know that the service records all your personal information and history.

Do not use any proxy service provided by someone you think might have ulterior motives.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Chem11 on 05-07-2001]

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chemtrailsorg
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Austin,TX,US
122 posts, May 2001

posted 05-07-2001 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chemtrailsorg   Visit chemtrailsorg's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The problem with that logic is that so long as you are not exposed you are just another keyboard banger and are not out in the public making a difference.

The difference is that when you are out in the public light you must be responsible for what you say and what you do as I am.

You can pull up info in me becaue I am in the public light. I have arguments with people and get angry when they attack me. The difference is I will back what I say and the attackers will only attack from the darkness of their keyboard.

I don't really care to know who you are.

If you are not out in public with your face and your work you are just another keyboard banger and you are not really doing a damn thing to change anything.

Your self important attitude and feeling like you are somehow doing important research is just so much bull.

Back your play or get out of the way.

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Chem11
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The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-07-2001 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If we are to apply this so called logic, than no one in this forum, with the exception of you, is contributing to our collective effort.

This is merely another addition to your growing list of documetable falsehoods.

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cydoniaquest
nobody

nowhere
803 posts, Aug 2000

posted 05-08-2001 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gee Chem, you do know you're agreeing with head bunker Jay Reynolds himself don't you? This might be a historical moment!

Jay's opinion of Michael

I just thought you should know what Jay is saying about you Mike...so that you may at least have a response. All this petty name-calling and back stabbing may make the Jerry Springer show.....but I'm not sure if it helps the chemtrail issue any.

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