posted 05-07-2001 02:06 AM            

I am sure that everyone here will be at least as impressed with your resume as you seem to be, so I have taken the liberty of posting some very informative links in this regard....

Ah, so much information! Where to begin? Perhaps your military background could offer us some clues as to your current motivations..

http://www.xzone-radio.com/directory/mcdonnoughm.html

Since some rather startling allegations of intimidation have been communicated to me, I thought any prior allegations might serve to put the current situation in perspective...

http://educate-yourself.org/ctceoannoyedwfirstamendment12mar0.html

Well, you certainly do seem to have some history behind you. Since we all know the military has no interest in spreading disinformation, I thought researching any past allegations in this regard might be "helpful" as well...

http://www.sightings.com/politics6/chemndis.htm

Now that I am completely convinced of your sincerity, I am going to continue to "help" you in whatever fashion I am capable of.

Until they send someone better.

posted 05-07-2001 02:23 AM            

People often get me wrong because I will not support their bent on the world.

posted 05-07-2001 02:29 AM            

Perhaps you would like to sue me as well?

Perhaps worse?

posted 05-07-2001 02:38 AM            

"The reality is not as exciting as William Thomas would have you believe I am afraid. The real facts just don't measure up to his flights of fancy. He is a sensational journalist and is making money from his outrageous claims which he fails on major levels to substantiate.

The conclusions page best sums up my opinions of the reality of this situation."
http://www.chemtrails.org/chemtrails/conclusion.html"

posted 05-07-2001 02:44 AM            

I am pretty emotional and thin skined I guess. My down fall no doubt. It just made me feel so damn powerless to see her saying complete bull about me and not being able to do anything about it.

What would you do if you found in a search for your name a story about your so off base it was terrible?

I did not know what to do?

My bad I suppose.

posted 05-07-2001 02:45 AM            

Thanks for the offer, but I am doing just fine on my own.

Of course, everyone has their price... what does a good operative make these days?

Hypothetically, of course...

posted 05-07-2001 02:50 AM            

I try not to even discuss William Thomas. Mostly because he has never talked to me or replyed to one email I have sent to him. I make him a non issue and have not sent out that message as you just showed it.

Let me see the whole message with the full URL or source disclosed. I will show anyone my sent file and we will see if that message is in there.

posted 05-07-2001 02:59 AM            

I also stated that the whole page needs a re-write and I have only added the new to the page and not finished the changes to the page.

Why don't you take a pill here or something and relax a bit and not act quite so freaked out.

It is kind of weird to watch on the screen.

posted 05-07-2001 03:03 AM            

I never manufacture evidence.

I didn't know you advanced infantry types were so whiny.

On your feet soldier! Fight, damn you!

You want to antagonize people? Antagonize me. You wanna dig up dirt from people's personal lives and intimidate them with it? Go ahead. Intimidate me. Try it. See what happens.

Personally, I never try anything.

I just do it.

posted 05-07-2001 03:21 AM            

Well, time for me to dig a foxhole and get some shuteye before the next battle. To everyone else, I suggest you read the provided links and draw your own conclusions.

Sweet Dreams,

posted 05-07-2001 04:50 AM            

"The influence of the distillate is always greater than the original substance. The so called Philosopher's Stone is a final stage refinement and distillate that captures powerful energies. Philosopher Stones have been used to extend life indefinitely and to travel to other dimensions as well. Powerful concepts that only those worthy of the responsibility have been able to access. Ken Aachi

--------------------------------

Oh why don't we educate ourselves
Ken.

posted 05-07-2001 11:52 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by chemtrailsorg:
I am afraid that is from a who ever.
I would like to know where that came from.

I try not to even discuss William Thomas. Mostly because he has never talked to me or replyed to one email I have sent to him. I make him a non issue and have not sent out that message as you just showed it.

Let me see the whole message with the full URL or source disclosed. I will show anyone my sent file and we will see if that message is in there.

Why would you manufature this kind of crap about me? Why?

---

Since Mr.McDonnough/ Unum has disavowed any knowledge of this statement, and asked for my help, I will be glad to be of further assistince...

----Original Message-----
From: M. McDonnough
To: Editor@educate-yourself.org
Date: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 10:48 PM
Subject: noting your complete lack of research

You have done no research on me or my site so I suggest you remove any reference to my site from yours completely. Otherwise I will have to outline your slander on my next radio talk show spot later this month.

You have mentioned that my site is all about commercial promotion, and that is complete bull.
I have never made a dime off of chemtrails.org. It is on that same IP address as our corporate site
for TekSphere International Inc. This is due to the fact that we simply could not afford a separate site.

We have never made any money from this issue and that is not the purpose of our addressing this issue. I am personally interested in exploring this issue and bringing my considerable resources to bear on this issue. My business partners backed me and we went after the truth.

The web address officially for chemtrails.org is www.chemtrails.org/chemtrails/

There is plenty of information about this issue if you take the time to enter the web site for this.
I am originally a UFO Technology researcher. My web site www.ufotechnology.com demonstrates my commitment to uncovering the truth within the black budget world and I am just as committed to my research into chemtrails.

The reality is not as exciting as William Thomas would have you believe I am afraid. The real facts just don't measure up to his flights of fancy. He is a sensational journalist and is making money from his outrageous claims which he fails on major levels to substantiate.

The conclusions page best sums up my opinions of the reality of this situation. http://www.chemtrails.org/chemtrails/conclusion.html

The bulk of new material is covered in our chemtrails.org forum http://www.chemtrails.org/discus/

Research your subject accurately and tell the truth or shut the heck up.
If you speak of me or my work out of turn and in ignorance of the truth you are going to be proved wrong.

I have a long and considerable reach on the internet. You are a relative new comer compared to me. If you mess with me and tell stories which are untrue my friends will tell me as they have in this instance and I will call you on your lies. I will bring charges, in fact if I come back to your pages and see these comments one week from today I will start court proceedings for slander and libel against you and the persons in charge of this site.

They can say that they are not responsible but federal law will not see it that way I assure you.
You will remove all mention of my site and the slander you have pervade here or you can expect
that TekSphere International Inc. will be filing criminal slander and libel charges against you.

posted 05-07-2001 12:25 PM            

That was a private email between me and Ken,
How would you like it if not only some crackpot is misquoting your work but also posts every email that you send to them on their site..

Can you imagine the small mind that desided to do that crap. What a small time punk. My lawyer said it was not worth it to sue the punk. I still might just because I am still pissed off at the misquoting small minded self important twirp.

posted 05-07-2001 01:07 PM            

I had originally thought your ideas were worth careful consideration. However, you seem to be in the process of illustrating many of the rules of disinformation by H. Michael Sweeny:

quote:

---

2. Become incredulous and indignant. ["You are simply picking at me, and not really thinking about what I have contributed."]

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. ["I will not spat with a faceless, nameless, enemy who will only produce conjecture and will not put up with her own work for others to judge."]

8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority... ["I have a long and considerable reach on the internet. You are a relative new comer compared to me."]

13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards or with an apparent deductive logic which forbears any actual material fact. ["Where is your work?" "Lets see the links for that work. Set it next to mine. Lets see your stuff."]

18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.' ["Why don't you take a pill here or something and relax a bit and not act quite so freaked out."]

24. Silence critics. If the above methods do not prevail, consider removing opponents from circulation by some definitive solution so that the need to address issues is removed entirely. This can be...merely by destroying them financially, emotionally, or severely damaging their health. ["You will remove all mention of my site and the slander you have pervade here or you can expect that TekSphere International Inc. will be filing criminal slander and libel charges against you."]

---

posted 05-07-2001 01:09 PM            

It's time to step up. Ultimately, our strength lies in numbers.

I have to 'jet', but by tonight I'd like to see some sort of respose to the deceptions and manipulations that have thus far been documented. Either for or against.

God gave you a voice.

Use it.

posted 05-07-2001 01:37 PM            

My personal verdict: Disinfo artist on deck. Is he agency? Probably, if not he's a wannabe.

posted 05-07-2001 01:51 PM            

You ladies are just wrong on this one. Is this what you want Mark? Do you want your board turning into a spin-off of the Carnicom forum where people just take potshots at others and call them disinfo-agents, simply because that person might not go along completely with the latest whacked-out theory of the day?

Let's see your photo and address Chem11. Let's just make things fair. I want to know who you are so I can track, study and attack your stupidity and discredit you all from the safety of my computer. I would only be doing what you're doing right? C'mon now....don't be a hypocrite....let's see your information displayed publically so we can have a crack at you.