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Topic: Chemtrails on WDTN-2 Dayton 5/18 | Topic page views:
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Thermit
Tech

Houston, TX 2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-08-2001 09:16 PM
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Kim Weber: I am pleased to announce that due to our efforts a bonafide "main stream" television station will air a story on chemtrails. Please tune in to "PM Special" on WDTN Channel 2 News out of Dayton, Ohio at 11:00 p.m., May 18, 2001. If you don't live in Ohio but have folks or friends who do, please let them know. One of the people interviewed for the story was Mike Castle, who you might recall being on Bill Boshears and Art Bell a couple of times talking about chemtrails. He also was a part of Ohio Citizens' first chemtrails protest last year. Channel 2 News intends to be a presence at this year's protest on June 23 in front of Wright Patterson Air Force Base. (See http://home.earthlink.net/~ohwarriorgoddess "Flyer" page for more information about the protest). --- Kim Weber --- ohwarriorgoddess@earthlink.net

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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist

East Central Florida 706 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-08-2001 10:09 PM
Finally! Let's pray this is the hole in the dyke of secrecy (and apathy) we've been waiting for. Here's the link to their site maybe they will have info posted regarding their coverage or follow-up. Maybe it would help the cause if they received a few encouraging emails? www.wdtn.com Thanks, Thermit, on the heaviest spray day many of us have seen, it is welcome news.
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Chem11
megasprayer news

The Homeland 1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-08-2001 10:18 PM
Yes, yes, YES. Excellent idea, Flkook. Let's do this BEFORE they run the story. Make sure they've got the facts before the bad guys begin to projectile vomit disinformation all over their email accounts.Perhaps Thermit would be the most credible spokesperson in this effort? His FE data is quite convincing.

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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist

East Central Florida 706 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-08-2001 10:28 PM
Your right Chem11, let's think the strategy through before us emotional types jump all over them with a million incoherent email! I'd be so excited I'd spew chem rant all over their email accounts....Thermit what do you think? Should you be a sole spokesman for the board or should we decide on a reasonable "committee" to contact them?
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Anne
Senior Member
Napa, CA USA 123 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 05-08-2001 10:47 PM
I am glad to see this TV station at least looking at the chemtrail issue. I will email them too and give them my support. Read an article about a newscaster in Oakland who said that the news media has changed so much in recent years and what is aired has to go through committee for approval. It must be hard on journalists who see something that needs reporting and can't do it because of possibility of losing their jobs.
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goldrush
Senior Member
No, Calif. USA 109 posts, Sep 2000
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posted 05-09-2001 02:36 AM
Anne, Ann, or anybody, can anyone cite any newsperson, weatherman, or public figure who has lost their job for "highlighting contrails"? Anyone who has any self-respect, would audaciously speak out for something, they--themselves believe in. That is why so called real TV, is so popular. There are even many more reasons, that anyone who believed that they were limited by some "overseer", would lean more heavily toward truth, rather than obey politely. What if, there are, no such thing as chemtrails? What if it is just water vapor, and fuel combustables? What if Carnicom, et al.. continue to float different materials, or test?results, and not ever have them multiply verified by sources like labs, pilots, doctors, or legal entities, which would limit the facts, or story, to only what is provable. I have yet to see anyone outside the core group of cull/chem believers, force themselves into invesigating more deeply, into at least, the basic sciences related to weather, flight traffic, and engine and aircraft design... and beyond, and weigh evidence according to what repeatedly provable, vs what is not. Maybe CHEMTRAILs exist because some people NEED them to exist, for most personal reasons. To all, invent or replicate data against a control.... no news story is one hundred percent controlable by any boss.
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Chem11
megasprayer news

The Homeland 1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-09-2001 02:48 AM
Yes, Goldrush.William Thomas. (According to Jay Reynolds...) 
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Delphi
Mystic Warrior

S. Bossier, Louisiana 1583 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 05-09-2001 03:35 AM
Hey Goldrush, Next time I puke my guts out from my 104 fever, I'll have some "proof" for ya! The proof is that people are getting sick, you go to the Doctors, they don't know what it is, the proof is staying up all night with sick kids and watching them have a dry cough and wheez and sweat, even tho they were healthy few yrs. back. Kids never got sick from "regular, normal contrails" and air traffic...but these weird "acting", uncharacteristic chemplanes that do things "regular jets" don't do...well now, the "trails" from those seem to cause grave illness in some. Next time I puke, I can mail it to ya if ya want. J. I'm serious, I may just have it tested.
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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist

East Central Florida 706 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-09-2001 07:13 AM
Yeah, Goldrush...I needed or wanted this for my life. Are you insane?Never posted on any message board (outside of questions to various tech supports)Barely have time to shower and brush my teeth due to helping run an extremely busy corporation. Never been in to any of the garden variety phenomenon or conspiracy theories (although now I find myself subscribing to a few, primarily the NWO agenda). Way too busy to have been bothered, But I am not about to "let this go" until I find out what the hell they are spraying up there! It doesn't take a scientific background or documented evidence to LOOK UP and engage BRAIN. How could you possibly think we've all made this up in our heads because we need some common bond to commiserate about or cling too? Most of us here go round and round and get at each others throats because we can't hardly agree on anything. This is not exactly what I would call a group of like minded individuals. I think I speak for the majority when I say we are only here for one reason. We know they are spraying something and we want to know what the hell it is and what the hell it's for! (If I've got that wrong, everybody, feel free to jump in and correct me) Re: Chems and their veracity... one of my fathers ventures today (he is retired nuclear sub commander) is designing mathematical software models, he was involved in the whole chaos,fractal thing early on in the 70's. Personally math scares me. He's a nuclear physicist too, a loving, infuriatingly fair, but stern, God fearing father. Just so you understand my frame of reference...his opinion is just slightly under God's with me. He didn't look at the first piece of online evidence...he looked up in the sky and said unless the've found a way around physics those are not contrails. He firmly believes its a military op. He's not the only physicist I've talked too. (Here is where he and I part company) His attitude is, "If it's top secret it's top secret for a reason, and leave it alone". His security clearance was way up there and Dad is of an era when patriotism and blind faith in the chain of command were next to God, family, and your dog. Whether it is my right or not I want to know what they are spraying up there. If it was a good thing, they would be all over the media with it patting themselves on the back. My area here has seen such blatant activity that there is no one who could ever convince me this is normal traffic. Flying in huge circles? Where the hell are they going? I've watched as huge wheel spoke designs were displayed. (BTW, those plumes bloom differently than the horizon to horizon ones) Massive grids over the whole sky. One night in a full moon I saw over eight planes on what looked like a square dance where they were on what looked like collision courses. No airline would allow that! Formation flying. Extremely low sprays right over my house! Oily looking thick haze, day after day. Spray after spray. I live in the Sunshine State and have for 15yrs. Never has it been dingy in our skies so often. I've had weird jelly like goo on my car on two different occasions during very low spray.. This yellow golden glow and bright purple and pink clouds every spray day in the sky at sunset that everyone notices and says oh isn't' that odd...it looks like a Los Angeles smog set. They are spraying again today, obvious turning it on and off, vertical short spurts. No plane leaves a normal contrail at a 90 degree angle, moves over makes another one, moves over makes another one. Then they spread in to this muck, it's disgusting. Anecdotal evidence to be sure. Not real scientific but believable if it's your anecdote. One more thing Goldrush, if your not convinced of the reality of what is going on, why are you here? To try to convince the rest of us that we don't know what we are seeing? And why would that be important to you hmmmmm? To the rest of the board: Sorry, for the early AM rant but this guy caught me after a huge early morning spray display and my third cup of coffee.
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The Military Lies
Senior Member
90 posts, Jan 2001
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posted 05-09-2001 07:41 AM
I sure am glad someone else had the energy and intestinal fortitute to address this disingenuous pukes comments. I for one, am sick and tired of repeatedly pointing out the OBVIOUS to these souless sellouts.Goldrush, why don't you be a good little liar... run along now, and go play hopscotch with TopScumm0069. You can both Phuque Auph. 
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cydoniaquest
nobody
nowhere 803 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 05-09-2001 08:45 AM
What is it with the "puking" theme here? Speaking of puke, I see you've come back Military Lies.....proving Goldrush's point all the way....you need this issue, don't you? Are you and Delphi now actually going to attempt to tell her, a person with an incurable form of leukemia, what it means to be sick? You'd do well to think twice before you insert foot in mouth next time..... 
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David
Chemtrail Information Agent
1290 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 05-09-2001 09:19 AM
You can add me to the list of pissed off people who are fed up with otheres trying to tell us nothing is out of the ordinary.My wife has been sick for two years and is getting no better.(rarely before chems) I listen to her cough and choke constantly. See tears come to her eyes as she tries to breath in between spasms of coughing. Restless nights just trying to get some rest, going to the Dr. 3,4,5 times a month to find the problem and cannot. Have you done that GR, have YOU. Perhaps if you did you would not be so much into the debunking of this issue. It damn hard to watch a loved one waste away, and know that it is happening because of a corrupt and uncaring and out of control government. Knowing that our lives are becoming increasingly shorter because of the cause and effect of chemtrails. I can see the unmistakeable signs of premature ageing in the both of us, bones ache, joints sore, tired, confused, migrains daily, intestional problems, skin so dry it peels in sheets. So don't come here telling us that this sh*t is not real, only imagined. Only a damn fool would look to the sky and say, "nope, nothing wrong here". When the mass die off of the population begins,and it will soon, then tell yourself that this is all in your head not in the sky or your body. I do not like to rant and rave either but looking out today I see the same thing again......spray, spray and more spray. If you do not believe then go tell it to jay and chickiedeb, they should be in the cubicle next to yours.

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Thermit
Tech

Houston, TX 2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-09-2001 09:38 AM
 
 
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RidesTheWind
visionary

The Void 1359 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 05-09-2001 11:29 AM
Seems to me our wonderful government is committing murder on its own people again. I still say its time for the good ole massive lawsuit by every Tom Dick and Harry and woman in Amerika to wake these a**h***s up!! I am sick and tired of the whole shabang and tired of seeing people die in tornadoes and earthquakes created by these jerks with their fancy space command toys. Oh oh..Looks like anger seething thru here.We need more prosac again I think.Perhaps they could include some compazine for the puking too.I say enough is enough.We need a lawyer for the class action suit.What are we waiting for? Our children to die?Hello is anybody out there? By the way,where are Mark Sky and nsa????
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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist

East Central Florida 706 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-09-2001 12:41 PM
Doubtful NSASucks will be back. He would want us to carry on, and I'll bet he has his ways of checking in. Of course no posts have been as entertaining or as controversial as his. As far as Mark? Good question. With all the heavy duty spray we could use some heavy duty poetry.
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RidesTheWind
visionary

The Void 1359 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 05-09-2001 01:13 PM
Flk....been out for awhile having teeth out.So much fun...whats with nsa going?Was he asked to leave or did so on his own?
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Thermit
Tech

Houston, TX 2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-09-2001 03:11 PM
Wasn't asked to leave...
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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist

East Central Florida 706 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-09-2001 03:45 PM
There are others who could probably tell you more. I just know he felt his family's safety was threatened and that he is still working on the CT songs.
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goldrush
Senior Member
No, Calif. USA 109 posts, Sep 2000
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posted 05-09-2001 11:43 PM
Thanks, Cy, for portraying my perspective. No one here has any idea what it means, to face what is so far, an instoppable death. I daily weigh the blessing of knowing, and the hopes for a cure for Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia, which I am at stage 2. Anyone who has chronic symptoms that seriously limit their formerly normal lives should seek out and demand attention for their health. Do not rule out anything, just because you believe in chemtrails. I was a bit harsh, in my post and fully expect to be banned at some point. I was just more exasperated than usual. I wish anyone who suffers from any persisting health problem, to find eventual resolution, from the bottom of my heart. I am a fighter, I sure do not expect to die from this cancer, for a very long time, and if genetic studies advance, hopefully not at all.
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The Military Lies
Senior Member
90 posts, Jan 2001
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posted 05-10-2001 12:12 AM
Sorry...... I'm not interested in handing out sympathy to liars and deceivers. Actually, the thought of doing so makes me feel quite ill myself.Cy... You can stick it in your ear. I've seen MOUNTAINS of your good works all over the net. You are a liar too. Goldrush.... I've read your posts for a long long time WITHOUT responding with the incredible anger that they generate within me, and other TRUTH lovers. Let me tell ya straight.... I don't believe ONE SINGLE WORD that comes out of you. Why should I believe the cancer bit, when you refuse to believe in the honesty and integrity of the good, truthful, observant, diligent, and caring people in here? Should I give a crap about your alleged affliction? Hell no. After having read all of your hateful BS over the months, if you REALLY DO have cancer, I can only say: Stage THREE..... Where are you? Seem cold? To that, I say, so what? So are you. You are entitled to lie, and I am entitled to hope that all liars perish. Fair enough? Good. Next?
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Chem11
megasprayer news

The Homeland 1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-10-2001 12:26 AM
I, personally, would not wish this affliction on my worst enemy.Sadly, all our days are numbered. I personally intend to go out with a modicum of dignity and a determination to stand up for what I believe in. I sincerely wish you strength and courage during this ordeal, Goldrush. I hope that you wish us the same. 
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The Military Lies
Senior Member
90 posts, Jan 2001
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posted 05-10-2001 12:51 AM
Fair enough Chemm11...You are entitled to that, And like I said, I am entitled to desire the demise of deceivers, and all the continuing DAMAGE they are intentionally doing to those who deserve the truth. It all depends on where your passions are. Where your allegiances lay. You are right about the fact that EVERYBODY is facing death. Long live those who cherish truth and righteousness. Death to deceivers and destroyers. I think I'm in good company with those sentiments. 
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Delphi
Mystic Warrior

S. Bossier, Louisiana 1583 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 05-10-2001 01:34 AM
Cy, You just "stepped in it"! I have a fatal illness also, so in essence, it is YOU who put your foot in your mouth! I don't go around blabbering about it, but since it was brought up by Goldfish, I figure equal time. Although, I don't let the "grass grow under my feet" and it will never stop me from my chem research and taking photos, MS hurts just like GWI and all the rest of it, lecture someone who cares. Just because some one is sick, dosen't mean they should not care about how chems are making others sick.
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Delphi
Mystic Warrior

S. Bossier, Louisiana 1583 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 05-10-2001 01:45 AM
TheMilitarylies, Yeah, He does have "Mountains" of it all over the place, dosen't he?
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goldrush
Senior Member
No, Calif. USA 109 posts, Sep 2000
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posted 05-10-2001 02:01 AM
Thank you Chem 11, I do not harbor malicious thoughts toward those who want answers for what they see. I do not segragate myself from those who suffer varieties of ailments. Wanting answers, is only natural. I went through years of doctors' appts, trying to find out why my energy was low, repeated infections, shingles, and constant high body temp., night sweats, and gastrointestinal disturbance. I would hate to think some people here, may be neglecting to identify their symptoms because there is a "catch all" diagnosis, called chemtrails. On the other hand, I really hate to see pilots being deemed "brainwashed automatons" that have no feelings, or "brain department". Anyone, ill, has to fight to remain mentally healthy as well. If being overtly nasty, is the signiature of some of the posters here, I guess I am now their fair target. O.K.
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