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Topic:   One possible design for spray plane modification

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cydoniaquest
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803 posts, Aug 2000

posted 05-09-2001 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stay sharp because I’m about to present an idea that I don’t believe I’ve seen considered on any chemtrail board to date….

I pondered the question of how a high speed jet aircraft could cost effectively be modified to spray. I imagine myself on an engineering board somewhere, and a head honcho general in charge of the national spray program comes up to me and says: “Cy, we need a cost effective way to modify jets to spray our chemical…and we need it to appear to be coming from the engines so as to be confused with normal contrails and not raise public suspicion. We would also like you to design a way so as our chemical will be mixed with air (like shaving cream) so as to decrease the density and suspend our aluminum particle solution for long periods of time in the upper atmosphere. Have your plans on our desk by 6:00 am tomorrow!”

Well here is the design solution I would use. First off, we are going to need to run a high pressure, aircraft spec braided steel flexible tubing out to the engines from a special internal tank in the fuselage (where the passenger compartment is on a normal aircraft). This should not be difficult since there are many openings in the wing spars already available that allow various cable and plumbing lines to pass through, and our high pressure chemical line is relatively small in diameter. We need to run this from our pressurized on-board chemical tank out to the engine spars which already provide room for fuel lines to enter the engine. We don’t want our chemical to enter the hot section of the engine however, so we run it to the bypass section behind the turbine blades through one of the many pre-existing ducts. To this high pressure chemical line we will attach a circular tube ring, about the diameter of the high bypass duct cowling. This tube ring will distribute the chemical to various high pressure nozzles embedded within the circumference of the ring. The ring, in turn will be welded or otherwise mounted to the high bypass section behind the fan blades. It will be wind tunnel tested to with-stand the wind force at cruising speed. Once at operating altitude the assembly will function very similar to the way an afterburner injects fuel into the hot engine exhaust, except in this case the chemical will be injected into the cool air stream of the bypass section, and instantly mixes in the turbulent airflow thereby leaving what appears to be a natural contrail coming from the engine.

If I could find a web site like Yahoo’s Geocities that would allow me to download scans to this board, I would draw the design for you.

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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts


Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 05-09-2001 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I keep my pictures here: http://www.homestead.com/ It's free, doesn't require you to know HTML, and is easy to use.

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chemtrailsorg
Chemtrails.org Admin

Austin,TX,US
122 posts, May 2001

posted 05-09-2001 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chemtrailsorg   Visit chemtrailsorg's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know you can upload the pictures directly to my message board, then copy the image location and tie it into your post here with the image URL. I don't mind and if it matters you have my permission.

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cydoniaquest
nobody

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803 posts, Aug 2000

posted 05-09-2001 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alrighty....I'll try to make a simple freehand drawing. In fact, its so simple in design you could say it's like one of those bubble toy wands that has a ring wich allows the soulution to drip out towards the center....and when you wave it, air catches the film and creates a bubble. In fact the design already exists in afterburners.

Any way, I'll just draw up a simple sketch to better illustrate what I'm talking about.

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cydoniaquest
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803 posts, Aug 2000

posted 05-10-2001 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, here's a really crappy scan of what I'm talking about. It's blurry but I think you can still read it. I had the original document saved directly from word....but hit the wrong button and lost it, so I scanned a printout into Homestead.com...

Here it is: Jet Spray Withing High Bypass Cowling Design

[Edited 1 times, lastly by cydoniaquest on 05-10-2001]

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cydoniaquest
nobody

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803 posts, Aug 2000

posted 05-10-2001 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a closer version of that same scan of this idea:
Closer view of internal ring sprayer idea inside high bypass cowling

[Edited 3 times, lastly by cydoniaquest on 05-10-2001]

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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts


Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 05-10-2001 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could you give us those URLs again, Cy?

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cydoniaquest
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posted 05-10-2001 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know they don't work. Apparently you can't hotlink to the Homestead or Geocities file managers any more. I'll send the diagram to Mike. He says I could link to his message board.

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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts


Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 05-10-2001 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cy -

Open your Homestead web site.
Right click on the picture you want posted.
Write down the address listed under Properties Address: URL and give it to me.
I think I'll be able to get it posted with that information.
Or give me your Homestead web site address and I'll try to figure it out.

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Thermit
Tech


Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 05-10-2001 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or you could upload them to the Image Database...

Just a thought...

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cydoniaquest
nobody

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803 posts, Aug 2000

posted 05-10-2001 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well....I didn't try creating a webpage yet.....but the URL will probably be the same is the image I uploaded. They have a mechanism now that intentionally prevents people from linking. Christy has been dealing with this problem over at her board for some time now. We used to be able to link directly to the image database in the file managers of these free sites....not any more though.

If you could send me your regular e-mail adress (not on this board) I could paste the diagram into the e-mail and send it to you. It seems to work that way I think.....I just sent it to Thermit....so I guess he'll tell me if he recieved it.

My yahoo email adress is jd4talk@yahoo.com

Send me your's and I'll send you mine!

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cydoniaquest
nobody

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posted 05-10-2001 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay....I could upload to your Database Thermit...but it would be out of place among the chemtrail pics. It's kind of a crappy scan....but if you don't mind.....I'll try that.

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cydoniaquest
nobody

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803 posts, Aug 2000

posted 05-10-2001 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok.....Finally! Here's the link to that crappy scan. You'll be amazed at how simplistic this design really is! That's why it could be exactly what is being done!

Possible Spray Design For High Bypass Engine

[Edited 1 times, lastly by cydoniaquest on 05-10-2001]

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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts


Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 05-10-2001 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool, Cy!!! Would some of the spray go through the aircraft engine with this design?

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cydoniaquest
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803 posts, Aug 2000

posted 05-10-2001 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well it's conceivable that you could point the spray jets backward farther or mount the assembly further back in the cowling than I've shown, so none of the spray passes through the hot section.

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Thermit
Tech


Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 05-10-2001 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
but it would be out of place among the chemtrail pics.

Cy, it is much more related to Chemtrails than some pictures that have been uploaded...

Can you crop that picture and reload?

If not, I can crop it...

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cydoniaquest
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803 posts, Aug 2000

posted 05-10-2001 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me get out my cropper and see what I can do. I'll try a re-scan too....and see if I can't do a better job!

Oh....and when opportunity comes a knocking, don't be caught on the cropper, I always say...

(sorry 'bout that)

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Thermit
Tech


Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 05-10-2001 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, there is an option on the edit page that allows you to keep same image, change image or delete the whole record. Just use the change image and you'll get to reselect...

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cydoniaquest
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803 posts, Aug 2000

posted 05-10-2001 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alrighty....I re-did the scan again....and just realized I also scanned in a smashed bug! Oh well....nothing's perfect!!

Here it is:

Possilbe Engine Modification for Sprayplane....and smooshed bug

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Thermit
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Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 05-10-2001 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like that little sucker is gonna clog-up your intake...LOL...

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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts


Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 05-10-2001 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A bug! You agents are supposed to keep those hidden Cy! Time for a refresher course!

(Sorry. Couldn't resist... )

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cydoniaquest
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posted 05-10-2001 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's what is known as the frozen chicken test to see how the engine handles bird strikes (or in this case, bug strikes)!

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3T3L1
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Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 05-10-2001 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As I remember it, Cy, those tests were done at Texas A&M. They sorta kinda forgot to thaw out the birds, neglecting to note that engine-clogging fowl tend to be fresh, not frozen.

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FLKook
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East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-10-2001 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Considering the affects of what they are spraying up there, the squashed bug says it all. Thanks, CY.

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cydoniaquest
nobody

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803 posts, Aug 2000

posted 05-10-2001 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, don't thank me...the bug made the sacrifice. (We agents always make sure to destroy all the bugs).

Aren't those Texas A&M guys the same ones who also had that bonfire collapse? Somebody really ought to talk to them about their engineering program, it's taking a slide.......I thought they were supposed to be the best and the brightest!

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