posted 05-12-2001 10:58 PM            

I'd say the equipment is fairly cheap. A Tesla coil is a type of zero point energy or over-unity device (depending on how you define the term)....and I built one myself from parts from surplus electronics and hardware stores. Although much experimentation remains to be done to simulate some of Tesla's experiments. I need to start by prying myself away from these message boards for one thing!

But less exotic power generators can be made from every day household items. A copper pipe placed inside a galvanized steel pipe place under the ocean tide can act as a battery. Speaking of ocean tides, a simple under water turbine can be designed to generate power from the perpetual rhythm of ocean currents. There are hundreds of such devices created by inventive individuals every day, some even designed to passively extract electricity from the environment...But we are so busy with our every day tasks that it has just been cheaper and more convenient to just buy our power from the power company.

Well, that's no longer the case in California, and increasingly nation wide. People are now motivated to look for alternative means or personally generated electricity. We are very close to creating individual power stations on the "underground market" and I suspect it will happen exactly as your question suggests, 3T3L1. That's why TPTB (to coin a favorite misused term) are motivated to bring costs down. They know that as long as energy prices stay as high as they are, motivated individuals are going to start bringing incredible devices and ideas to the market, and we might just say "To hell with you power companies...we don't need you any more". This is the last thing they want, so the worst thing they could do is keep the prices high.

posted 05-13-2001 01:44 AM            

Also, take for an example of the steam power plant invented by Tesla in 1931. Water is circulated to the bottom of a deep shaft, returning as steam to drive the turbines, coupled to generators, and then returned to liquid form in the condenser, in an unending cycle. Using the earth as a boiler.

I called Florida Power a few years ago now, and asked what entails producing my own electricity and what if I produce more than what I use...and, was it true that the power company had to 'buy' it from me if that was the case. I thought I would be laughed at, but the engineer I spoke with was incredible. Took me very serious and educated me. Yes, they do pay, IF you have a set amount each month that is constant that they can count on to re-sale for profit. Of course he was talking of larger scale, but power companies do look for sources of cheap power. A lot of the energy we use comes from the power companies burning our recycled trash...which bothered me hearing this being that I'm forced to pay for recycling so that it can be sold back to me from the power company as electricity. The engineer discussed all the different forms of power I could produce here in Florida and traditional options aren't very good. Not enough wind for windmills and with our flat elevation, dams are not around here either. Solar power was the best, but on a cloudy day or the rainy season, you'd need back-up. So I asked him about alternative energy. He still took me serious. He said if I decided to hook my house up to a gas generator or any other form of alternative electricity that I invent, to make sure to have the power company disconnect their connections to the house because a back surge of power could cause a major fire throughout the entire area. Those of you who have read books on Tesla know how he did this often. He was always in trouble with the fire dept.

posted 05-13-2001 06:48 AM            

Don't Get Fooled Again - The Who

We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men that spurred us on
Sit in judgement of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song.
I'll tip my hat to the new constitution,
Take a bow for the new revolution,
Smile and grin at the change all around.
Pick up my guitar and play,
Just like yesterday;
And I'll get on my knees and pray.
We won't get fooled again.

The change, it had to come,
We knew it all along,
We were liberated from the fold, that's all.
The world looks just the same,
And history 'ain't blamed
'Cause the banners all were flown in the last war.

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution.....etc

No. No!
I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive;
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky,
Though I know that the hypnotised never lie.
(Do ya?)

There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me,
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye.
And the parting on the left
Is now a parting on the right,
And the beards have all grown longer overnight.

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution.....etc

Don't get fooled again,
No, no!

Meet the new boss,
Same as the old boss.

posted 05-13-2001 09:21 PM            

You disgust me...don't pass go....Go directly to hell....

posted 05-13-2001 09:55 PM            

But for the one hundredth time...because you are obviously a slow learner...here's how it works: You maky no negative comments to me...I maky no negative comments towards you. How many times have I told you this now Daffy?...Yet every time you start in again, just like the first time...without any provocation. Are you a wee bit slow in la cabessa? Get a clue!

Why do you think everyone figures your on some heavy medication? Well, let me tell you... it's for this exact reason.

posted 05-14-2001 07:42 AM            

Oh, but wait! I forgot. YOU have a problem with half the people on this board. In fact, YOU have a problem with half the people at various other boards too.

You are disliked by both chemmies and non-chemmies alike. I suppose it has never occurred to you that the chance of EVERYBODY else having a problem, but YOU being in the right, is next to nada. I'm sure you expect us to believe all of us are "Daffy". Don't deny it or claim I'm the only one (according to you). Every single person on this board knows better than that.

Since you have issues with so many people all over the net, maybe you had better reconsider your claims to virtue, and start being realistic.

Realistically, you are either an agent, or at very least a sicko who gets off on bickering with everybody.