posted 05-11-2001 02:24 PM            

We all know Clinton wanted only the best for us....and what a moral upstanding person he was.

But as for GW....my only problem with W is that he seems to be accepting a smaller military and going along with the idea of downsizing and reliance on high tech, over quantity. My own personal opinion is that we should be fervently building our military forces like we were at war right now. We should have Rosie the rivetor out there trading in her nylons for a rivet gun. We should be able to fight 10 fronts. Instead W seems to be throwing out the standard of being able to fight two fronts simultaneously...a long-held standard which Clinton helped to destroy with his incompetence and personal desire to be at the head of a one world government.

W's Policy with the UN is troubling me a bit now at the moment as well. The Republican majority in congress wants to hold back some of the funding for the UN as punishment for their act of rejecting the US from a human rights board. Can you believe those commies would have the gonads to reject us from a human rights board? The United States owns those bastards....without our money, they don't exist.....and they have the arrogance to reject us on the ground of human rights (of all things)while China goes door to door killing every third child born. Congress should not only not fund them partially. Congress should never fund those bastards (with US tax dollars) again! I don't ever remember getting to vote on how my money is spent in this area. Yet Powell and Bush are against the idea of holding back some funding, because we don't want to upset relations with the UN. It should be the other way around...the UN should be worried about upsetting relations with us!

And regarding energy....Bush needs to start drilling immediately for every drop of domestic oil he can find. He's too slow to act on this in my opinion…although I do realize he has tremendous opposition here and has had a budjet he successfully had to sell first. He should open up every natural gas deposit. Lift EPA regulation and Federal taxation on every refinery and all taxes on every drop of gasoline. Bush should immediately get rid of those idiotic and arbitrary gasoline additive requirements like MTBE that do nothing but cost more and harm the environment in other ways.

At the same time, Bush needs to be seeking alternative fuels and ways of generating electricity, and he should be provide incentives for business and to start companies that compete with big oil with clean technologies we all know already exist....And he should send his Department of Justice out there to keep big oil off the backs of the little guy so they can gain a foothold, sort of an Anti-Butch Reno approach. We need to use all domestic oil like it's going out of style.....because it is going out of style anyway....while we establish an alternative energy infrastructure...We need to keep this oil-based economy and infrastructure healthy in the meantime, because change best comes from a position of strength, not of weakness.

My problem with W is not that he is conservative....It's that he is not conservative enough.

I'd say a 20 round clip and a Smith and Wesson for everyone, let's drill in Central Park. Let's blow up the UN and let God sort em out.....Long live the Rednecks!!!!

posted 05-11-2001 06:00 PM            

Confederate battle flag that is.

Or,my personal favorite,the Fort Multrie flag.
LIBERTY

The Don't Tread On Me Flag is appropriate as well.

posted 05-11-2001 06:20 PM            

CY your last post was dead on. Agree with the whole nine yards, except the blow up the UN part. Couldn't we use some sort of bio or neutron to get rid of the scumbags inside? That's some mighty pricey realestate just to willy nilly go blowin'up.

posted 05-11-2001 10:28 PM            

I do know there is a big controversy over those Berets being manufactured in China. Imagine the brilliant decision making that went into that one...US soldiers, possibly forced into a future battle with Chinese communists, having to look at the made-in- China label on their own uniform!

posted 05-12-2001 07:39 AM            

There are still alot of wonderful people in this country who believe that things should be different, regardless of political affiliation, but I think the sheeple out number us! Gore/Bush...twin sons of different mothers. In my heart I believe in the Faction I and Faction II theory, when looking back at the campaign, it is impossible for me not to see it.

Delphi- Ready to secede whenever you are!

As for oil-drilling, puhleeze. Last year there was a kid who modified his old VW Rabbit to run on used canola oil that he collected from local restaurants. Cost less than a dollar a gallon, and the emmissions were less harmful. And didn't ya hear about the guy in France who figured out how to run a car on air? Plus I believe that we've had the technology to double our gas mileage for years. Greed, politics, greed, politics. Solar, wind, hydropower, geothermal. Cold Fusion.

posted 05-12-2001 10:33 AM            

There are no similarities between GW and Gore. I always notice when people make these types of statements they never offer specifics. They never offer reason, logic or examples based on fact.

As for oil-drilling, puhleeze. Last year there was a kid who modified his old VW Rabbit to run on used canola oil that he collected from local restaurants. Cost less than a dollar a gallon, and the emmissions were less harmful. And didn't ya hear about the guy in France who figured out how to run a car on air? Plus I believe that we've had the technology to double our gas mileage for years. Greed, politics, greed, politics. Solar, wind, hydropower, geothermal. Cold Fusion.

I agree that there are plenty of wonderful sources of alternative energy out there. My favorite is ethanol, (corn alcohol). But let's talk specifically how to switch an economy over. We can't just drop every thing and tool up the alcohol plants by next Wednesday. We've still got an entire economic infrastructure completely dependent on oil! This is the reality GW has to contend with. If we let the cost of oil and gasoline and diesel sky rocket due to not keeping up with the supply and demand curve or foreign manipulation....we risk hurting or destroying the entire US economy and making ourselves vulnerable to foreign enemies. If the farmer and truck driver are paying 4.00 per gallon of diesel....guess who they pass that cost onto?

This is why I say that the best way to change is from a position of strength. This concept is also true of negotiation and keeping the peace. Always from a position of strength, not weakness and desperation (as the liberals would have us operating) is the best policy. We need to have a healthy, self reliant economy first, before we can work on a gradual transition...so the first priority must be to address the supply curve of domestic oil and gasoline. We make sure this basic economic foundation of oil is plentiful and cheap, THEN we work on gradually switching the economy over the right way. We are probably going to run out of oil in 40 years anyway, even less as the third world countries and the sleeping giant of China become increasingly industrialized oil consumers,...I therefore see no reason to conserve, if the idea is to transition over anyway. Let's keep oil plentiful and our economy healthy while we do it though.

What's the point of going to an alternative fuel, if we destroy America's economy and loose our freedom and cars in the process? Alternative energies abound..but transitioning an infrastructure to run on them, is another thing altogether.

posted 05-12-2001 01:23 PM            

That's how Communist, Elite, Big Brother, and Big Business think Cy...an alternating fuel source and different source of transportation would only destroy the structure of those who are controlling the system and banking all the money.

The average public would benefit if alternative energy sources were allowed to surface. It's the control of goods and services, supply and demand, that cause shortages and inflations. So go to the end of the line, to the one who is controlling the shots, and you'll find your destroyer.

posted 05-12-2001 05:46 PM            

Gore and GW are alike....except one is a pathological liar and one is an honest man.

Gore and GW are alike....except one believes in taxing the average American to death and that the American taxpayer can never be taxed too much....or that there can never be too many government social programs and redistribution of wealth (untill it hurts equally). The other believes in giving Americans back what they earn.

Gore and GW are alike....except one is a elitist communist who believes in a one world government...and one is a conservative Republican who puts the American constitution first

Gore and GW are alike...except one tried to sue his way into office, and the other didn't care much either way...win or loose, just so long as it was fair.

Gore and GW are alike except one has no moral integrity and cheats at every opportunity and served happily at the side of one of the most corrupt, evil vile excuses for a human being, next to Adolph Hitler...and the other gave people jobs and served as an excellent business leader, roll model and governor....and never goes back on a promise kept.

Gore and GW are alike, except one has no ethical qualms about doing whatever it takes to serve himself at the expense of the nation, human life and everything else that stands in the way.....while one is a true Christian who puts God, country and sanctity of office and human life above himself....

Gore and GW are alike except one was instrumental in selling top technological secrets to the Russians and Chinese...while one wants to build a working missile defense system to protect the citizens of the United states

Gore and GW are alike....except one wants to see the complete elimination of the automobile, complete dependency on foreign oil, using environmentalist propaganda, demagoguery and lies to mask his true communist agenda....and the other wants to see cheap oil and economic prosperity and self-reliance, putting the United States interests first..

Gore and GW are alike, except one has the personality of a rock and the looseness of a tree and the mental stability of a psychopath with a Hitler/Napoleon complex...while the other has a self-deprecating sense of humor, and no delusions of grandeur...

Yeah that's right....GW and Gore are so alike, they could be twins....OR maybe NOT!!....


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posted 05-12-2001 06:11 PM            

Christy

DO you want to explain how you arrived at this statement? First of all....communists elites, despise Big business....just as they despise capitalism. The two are oil and water, apples and oranges. That's why Clinton had Butch Reno attack Microsoft. He couldn't have anything growing so big as to compete with the federal government, now could he.

My point was that you can't transition directly from an economy based on oil to one ...oh say...based on alcohol fuel, cold turkey. You've got to phase this in. For example, let's say I'm a farmer who runs all his multimillion dollar equipment on diesel. Well if they just stop selling diesel or diesel goes to 5 bucks a gallon and I can't maintain my profit margin....and it turns into a loss for me to continue operating. Well what happens to me? That's right....I go out of business. Same is true of the truck driver. Who then can afford to stay in business if fuel goes to 5 bucks a gallon?.....Well the huge corporate giants who can afford to upgrade equipment and operate on a razor thin margin of profit as well as big government who can buy the farmer's land with taxpayer money and not care one way or the other. In short, what happens is if you make energy suddenly expensive or unavailable, you drive the backbone of America (the small and medium size business) out of business, and you're left with a collapsed economy.

Think of energy like the first level of the food chain.....If energy becomes expensive...everything up the line suffers. But what about those countries who have their own internal sources of energy and can keep it cheap...like China or Iraq or Russia?...They can continue their military growth and social stability while we become weakened and unstable....to the point were they might see a window of opportunity to attack and win. THIS is the communist agenda Christy! You have it completely backwards.

You can see that, in order to avoid this scenario, we must keep oil production plentiful and our economy healthy, while we implement alternative energies. This is the only way. Gore's way. The way of the radical environmentalist socialists, and Clinton's way are the path to complete American economic destruction and a one world government.


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posted 05-12-2001 08:05 PM            

And who's the genious who did your brainwashing (with what little they had to work with)? Who programmed your chip?

posted 05-12-2001 10:10 PM            

Of course I understand what you are saying, but what I'm saying that it's the Elite, Big Brother etc that would feel the blow, then of course pass this down to us, if alternative energies were allowed to be publiclly used. This is why we have used oil/fuel for the past hundred years. It's big bucks Cy and nothing is going to jeopardize it. Saying that we would be effected is only the side effect because THEY would be affected. IF inventors and scientist could REALLY and TRUELY perfect alternative energy inventions for the public, we wouldn't have to worry about the loss of oil and fuel. BUT I'll tell it like it is. That not going to happen. Monster Corporations and the government will never in a million years support it. Sooo, the only way we will be able to reap the fruits of an inventive mind is if it's privately made and passed around underground.

posted 05-12-2001 10:37 PM            

This is why the problem must be solved by private entrepreneurs...people like you and me. Once the first inventor gets his perpetual energy machine out into K-Mart or Home Depot. Once the first person opens up his/her solar generated alcohol fuel stations and opens up his duel fuel auto conversion business....a point of no return will be reached for the oil companies..
and the scam will be hard to continue, when the public has something better, and cheaper in their possession.

It's simply a matter of getting something the public desperately wants into the hands of the public first before big brother can intercept....but once it goes public, once there is demand there....it will be met, I guarantee you. There are thousands of entrepreneurs just salivating in the wings and ready to meet the demand. There are many ways this can be done, and I'm confident it will happen. Heck, I'll make it happen myself once I get the cash together. The only reason it doesn't happen right now is because people are too comfortable with the status quo...they lack the guts or the capital to compete with oil companies or they sell out to some oil cartel that offers a million bucks to buy out their patent. I might sell out my water car for a million bucks too if the offer came….but if I have the money first, I'm now motivated by other incentives than economic seurvival....

But alcohol fuel and ways to create it efficiently through special enzymes are being created as we speak. This type of fuel was used in the first cars built by Henry Ford and has been expertly made by moonshiners for years! The Archer Daniels Midland corporation has just modified an entire fleet of trucks to run on alcohol, and they are currently under testing. Many car companies have come out with alcohol fuel and duel fuel models, just waiting to meet a demand when it arrives.

This is an industry just waiting to explode and begging for some entrepreneur with guts to make it happen. All government needs to do is get out of the way, or get run over. As long as fuel costs remain as high as they do, there will be tremendous pressure brought to bear on any politician or company who publicly stands in the way of alternative energy.