posted 05-14-2001 11:02 AM
Herds of the old familiar white suppository planes going by over head, the planes also that are long with VERY pointed wings and last but not least the familiar reconnasaince plane with the disc on top...I would guess the subs must be off shore for testing of some kind...No trails directly here, but the wierdest parade of puff clouds from the west are coming over and don't even look real. The same ones that appear like they are being continually shot out of cannons or something.Too many, NOT AU NATURAL...
Same here in Croatia, 500 km further to the south-east in Bosnia and Herzegovina and 400 km to the north-west in Austria (Europe).
After long time, four days of almost clear sky with sparse puff clouds, sporadic, high-altitude jets leaving fast dissipating chemtrails maintaining very thin and barely visible haze, which does not accumulate moisture, looses altitude fast causing persistent precipitation of extremely fine yellow-green powder which visibly accumulates on the level, smooth surfaces.
posted 05-14-2001 02:10 PM
Greetings IZAKOVIC...I've been wondering when we would meet in here...I've enjoyed many of your thought provoking posts. The bit about the powder freaks me out as we are covered here,but I just stupidly assumed it was pollen...How do you know its more than pollen?I had a rather strange happening a while later after this post. I was looking up in the sky for the loud plane I was hearing,but could see none.As I was turning to go back inside my eyes caught movement over the horizon across the bay...There was a LOW passenger jet type plane (white top/dk blue on the bottom) flying along over the far shore headed south.I watched it rather stunned because what was a passenger type plane flying here for at this level? I watched for a minute when all of a sudden it banked,turned around and headed back up and eventually veered off to the west and was gone. Definately not normal activity here at all today!!! 3T3L1...Took pictures of them yes...Were a bit like your photo but zillions of them along with wisping chem type clouds mixed in. When the cloud bank was sufficiently thick to cover their activity(which I could clearly hear)the clouds fell real low overhead and the bottoms turned a dark gray/blk....If I can find someone to scan them when I get them back I will send them.At present I don't have a scanner.
posted 05-14-2001 02:43 PM
3T3L1....was wondering how you feel about this idea...These puff clouds that come fast and quick but then turn heavy,fall low and turn gry/blk could be dense barium clouds to cover laser weapon type activity above.? To soak up radiation type idea here...When we see the AWAX plane around its usually during times of testing...I'm trying to fit possible activities to cloud types.There could be some connection and a way to know whats coming at you in the future RTW
posted 05-14-2001 03:13 PM
I'll keep my eyes open, RTW.
The spraying they do here is different from what most of you are reporting. Our trails come from high altitude jets, usually flying east to west. If it weren't for their contrails or chemtrails, we would never notice them. (Sometimes they do make contrails--I'll be all set to get angry and then the trail evaporates.) In any case, we never hear them. So far, I have not seen chemtrails being made by passenger aircraft arriving at or departing from Lubbock International. And our bugsmasher airplanes are usually observed spraying crops, not people.
posted 05-14-2001 04:27 PM
RTW- I guess you and I are close enough to have the same type operation going on. I posted under "Information"/Chemtrail Stories about "popcorn clouds". Sounds like the same ones to me. The ones I saw on Saturday were multicolored with my polarized sunglasses on. I have not been able to see the planes today, only the trails, but they have almost whited us out. We also have the low-flying, heavy grey clouds this afternoon. They look weird against the white sky. What is an AWAX? 3T3L1- I see a gazillion planes here doing there dirty deed, but I also spend a lot of time at the coast, and I NEVER see the planes there, and the sky is horrendous looking the last few times.
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Features
The E-3 Sentry is a modified Boeing 707/320 commercial airframe with a rotating radar dome. The dome is 30 feet (9.1 meters) in diameter, six feet (1.8 meters) thick, and is held 14 feet (4.2 meters) above the fuselage by two struts. It contains a radar subsystem that permits surveillance from the Earth's surface up into the stratosphere, over land or water. The radar has a range of more than 250 miles (375.5 kilometers) for low-flying targets and farther for aerospace vehicles flying at medium to high altitudes. The radar combined with an identification friend or foe subsystem can look down to detect, identify and track enemy and friendly low-flying aircraft by eliminating ground clutter returns that confuse other radar systems.
The E-3 fleet will complete its largest upgrade in 2001. Known as the Block 30/35 Modification Program, the upgrade includes four enhancements:
Electronic Support Measure for passive detection, an electronic surveillance capability to detect and identify air and surface-based emitters.
Joint Tactical Information Distribution System to provide secure, anti-jam communication for information distribution, position location and identification capabilities.
An increase in the memory capability in the computer to accommodate JTIDS, EMS and future enhancements.
Global Positioning System, a satellite-based positioning capability to provide precise global navigation.
Other major subsystems in the E-3 are navigation, communications and computers (data processing). Consoles display computer-processed data in graphic and tabular format on video screens. Console operators perform surveillance, identification, weapons control, battle management and communications functions.
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In support of air-to-ground operations, the Sentry can provide direct information needed for interdiction, reconnaissance, airlift and close-air support for friendly ground forces. It can also provide information for commanders of air operations to gain and maintain control of the air battle.
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Background
Engineering, test and evaluation began on the first E-3 Sentry in October 1975. In March 1977 the 552nd Airborne Warning and Control Wing (now 552nd Air Control Wing, Tinker Air Force Base, Okla.), received the first E-3s.
Air Combat Command has 28 E-3s at Tinker, two at Elmendorf AFB, Alaska, and one at Kadena AB, Japan. Pacific Air Forces has four E-3 Sentries assigned to the 961st Airborne Air Control Squadron (AACS), Kadena AB and the 962nd AACS, Elmendorf AFB.
NATO has acquired 17 E-3A's and support equipment. The first E-3 was delivered to NATO in January 1982. The United Kingdom has seven E-3s, France has four, and Saudi Arabia has five. Japan has four 767 AWACS.
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In March 1996, the Air Force activated the 513th Air Control Group, an AWACS Reserve Associate Program unit, which performs duties on active-duty aircraft.
During the spring of 1999, the first AWACS aircraft went through the Radar System Improvement Program. RSIP is a joint U.S./NATO development program that involves a major hardware and software-intensive modification to the existing radar system. Installation of RSIP will enhance the operational capability of the E-3 radar electronic counter-measures, and dramatically improve the system's reliability, maintainability and availability. U.S. installation is RSIP is scheduled for completion in fiscal 2004.
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Primary Function: Airborne surveillance, command, control and communications
Builder: Boeing Aerospace Co.
Power Plant: Four Pratt and Whitney TF33-PW-100A turbofan engines
Thrust: 21,000 pounds (9,450 kilograms) each engine
posted 05-14-2001 04:58 PM
Gotta side shot available Cy??? This one has kind of gold looking rectangle flaps that hung down from either side of the tail...Its hard to describe....
posted 05-15-2001 01:12 PM
This board is not useful...all everyone does is fight and bullshit and play games. Enuf computers get fried, you'll all learn. Mine are all fine so on to better things. Bunch of know it alls and nuts and immature babies that wouldn't know how to stand together for anything but yapping.
posted 05-15-2001 02:07 PM
RTW writes: The bit about the powder freaks me out as we are covered here, but I just stupidly assumed it was pollen...How do you know its more than pollen?
On 14-05-2001 I got a call from a business friend from SARAJEVO (capital of Bosnia and Herzegovina, 400 km to the south-east), who does not believe in chemrails, but who asked me first: “Is this very fine yellow-green powder, which is accumulating everywhere, that chemtrail powder you spoke about?”
I have told him: “No, chemtrail powder is brownish and its granules are visible, they are around 0.2-0.1 mm in diameter”
Later on in the afternoon I’ve came to my auto which was so efficiently accumulating chemtrail powder that I have to wipe the windshield every day at last once to see through it. Looking closer it become clear that the extremely fine dust, covering the car surface, was indeed yellow-green and that the brownish granules were created by the interaction of the dust and the windshield cleaning liquid. Same afternoon other friend form VIENNA (Austria, 300 km to the north-west) called me asking the same question. In the evening, not asking for it, I was informed that the same situation was in our capital, ZAGREB, 200 km to the northeast.
As the VIENNA-RIJEKA-SARAJEVO area covers much more than 140.000 square km, there is no way that the yellow-green powder was/ is pollen. As the wind was coming from the nord (middle Europe) where there are no deserts, and as the dust was too fine and of the wrong color, it was not the desert sand either. And China is on the opposite part of the globe. Judging by the color and absence of solubility it was probably some kind of sulfate.
During four days of “clear skies” it was plainly visible that the air is saturated with airborne dust. As my town is on seashore and inland is covered with woods, only possible source of airborne dust are chemtrails sprayed on us. Sparse white puff clouds are the consequence of not so successful vapor condensation around falling chemtrail dust particles, which have low hygroscopic affinity.
Yesterday evening, just after sunset, planes commenced spraying regular BaO, which resulted with low cloud deck this morning. BaO use is easily deduced from the cloud bottom overload with the moisture (dirty black color) and dry lips sensation.
Interesting that the chemplains operating at night use anti-collision lights. Those of military type.
posted 05-15-2001 03:06 PM
Thank you for the info about the AWACs. Do either of yo have a view of the underside of the plane? To my knowledge I don't have any commercial flights going directly over my house. Most planes that I see are small military planes. There is one flight over my house that I thought might actually be commercial, but it may be an AWAC. I only see the underside of it though! Izakovic- Thank you for all of your reports from Croatia. What do anti-collision lights look like. I am ignorant about planes! We have a lot of nighttime activity where I live. Sometimes when it is "hazy" the planes look like they have a spotlight or headlight, which they only leave on for a short time. I've been wondering what they were doing.
posted 05-15-2001 03:36 PM
"The basic E-3 aircraft is a militarized version of the Boeing 707-320B commercial jetliner airframe. It is distinguished by the addition of a large, rotating rotodome containing its radar antenna and identification friend-or-foe (IFF) and data-link fighter-control (TADIL-C) antennas."
The Boeing 707 is a large aircraft. You should be able to see the rotodome from beneath it, and that would be enough to distinguish it from normal passenger planes.
posted 05-15-2001 03:46 PM
Thank you. It looks like a commercial jet frame, except that I feel like it is military. Also, there is something between the wings and the tail, maybe I am seeing the dome thingy. Thanks!
posted 05-15-2001 04:27 PM
Man Pen...Got the same plane here today.I left its desription in one of my other posts on the 'HERD'....It was white and between the wings and tail it looked like a side mounted box on either side.Sound familiar? We also got something being tossed out into the air,big enough to see but too small to identify.
posted 05-16-2001 08:53 AM
We got the same fine yellow powder here in central United States this past weekend. I showed my wife how it covered the windshields of our cars. We thought it was pollen but couldn't figure out where it all came from. Bizarre!
posted 05-16-2001 04:38 PM
RTW- Yes , the plane that flies directly over my house looks like a commercial jet, only with something between the wings and tail, almost looks like the engines, but the engines are on the wing. I believe that NASA has a very small bright orange plane, maybe someone will post a picture of it. I will keep my eyes open for stuff being thrown out of planes! Curiouser and curiouser.
Also, regarding possible cover for laser-beam weapons, etc. I think that it is a very good possibility. We have had complete cloud cover here for two days, and the amount of planes flying over dramatically increases here plus they seem to be flying at very low altitudes... right above the clouds. I can't stand it!!!!! I feel like I'm in a war zone when it's cloudy. Even when it was thunderstorming last night I could hear the drone of the planes. I have been trudging through some very bizarre technical info for the last couple of days, and a lot of it really seems to be related to laser weapons and the defense shield. I'll post something as ssoon as I can try to make sense of it.
posted 05-16-2001 05:15 PM
Pen.... We couldn't be getting the radiation of the lazer weapons or haarp beams I don't think without the aid of barium.The sky is nothing more than a humongus charge of radiation.The barium clouds seem to be nice puffs but dark gray especially on the bottom,and they are sometimes yellow tinted too.Very low, very heavy!!All of the above are reasons I think they are testing here right now,perhaps the subs are off shore.Tons of planes: white spray planes, helicopters, reconnasaince, all black, dayglo orange.You name it,they're here! Been over us for two days now or more. I loose track, it all gets so old after awhile.I always cringe within, but am less attentive to keeping records.I try.You may have this one already, but I'll leave it here anyway for anybody else. http://sun00781.dn.net/spp/starwars/program/abl.htm Yeah it did look like engines between the wing and tail.I am wondering if they might be tanks for spray or perhaps where they keep whatever they are dropping....Thanx
posted 05-22-2001 10:53 PM
mej023 hey new member, welcome to the site. Lots of people here in calif have reported the same thing happening, yellow dust. Pretty strange. I belive that it is being reported in Croatia also. Where do you hail from in the central u.s.? And have you had many chemtrails in the past week or so??.
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Thank you. It looks like a commercial jet frame, except that I feel like it is military. Also, there is something between the wings and the tail, maybe I am seeing the dome thingy. Thanks!
