posted 05-18-2001 03:32 AM            

You have only ever drawn first blood. You just don't like a fighter, and I am, brother.

Regards the colonel and his buddies in the airforce. I really don't care what you believe or don't believe at this point.

You are all going to die. You have to live with what is coming. You never got the other two sections of the new swabi stuff and you never will - from me. I consider all this through this board a waste of spirit and time and have taken my leave. Attacking and slandering me won't change anything, don't you know that by now?

Can't anyone of you see that yet? This isn't fear-mongering, this IS FACT. These people intend to lay waste to this country. THey didn't build those camps for just the fun of it, ya know. They aren't spending over a billion dollars a year on chemtrails just cuz they like to.

You and yours can GLOBAL WARM OR WHATEVER THE CURRENT lie is to date all you want. I don't care. You can make up piles of lies and spread them as far as you want against us all. You can convince others I am - what was it - waiting for an option? I am not a public figure nor are my friends. I tried to help with what we knew from the lives we lived and escaped from.

When we did the rituals in Ojai, DC, San Diego, and dozens of other cities all over this country, there were generals, vice-presidents, and countless other industry magnates there with us. You have no idea how much they hate you. They think you only here to DIE HORRIBLY. That's what they feed on. Deal with it. Or keep patting ol poor CIA boy Whitley on the back or chemorg or topgun or the colonel who you support wholly and with enthusiasm. Do it. You are not fooling a soul...none of you.

You are only waiting for your turn. And it's coming. To you all. They have lists of names that number int he 3 millions of dissidents slated for termination. But don't believe. I dont' care. The people know. The people see. The awake ones are readying for your kind. You want have it all your way, I can promise you that. They are now many among us who, when that day comes and it is coming sooner than you want to admit, are not going down alone. Many of you are coming with us.

posted 05-18-2001 04:00 AM            

If you read my book, 2nd edition (providing they didn't edit it out in the 3rd) you will find on page 277 and other pages, not in sequence, a parting shot as I and others left the life, got deprogrammed from all that shit, and the editors didn't catch it. Here it is:

"The Black Lodge creates distrust; they foster doubt, hatred, revenge, crime and disunity. They stimulate hidden animal urges in man in an effort to waste his energy and to produce weakness, guilt complexes, suicide and so on. The Dark Ones attack groups and churches in much the same way to prevent the work of love, sublimation and victory over the three bodies. They increase fanaticism, encourage the spirit of criticism and pride, and foster the glamor of self-satisfaction."

"There are real dangers on the path that should never be underestimated. Masonry, what with its colorful part in the history of modern civilization, has always been a special target for the forces of evil in the world. Usually, these agencies or forces come under the guise of help and aid.
Actually this warning comes about 200 years too late. The external agencies have, it would seem, accomplished their goal. Which is
 completely corrupt the highest levels of the Craft with ambitious, power hungry men and women.

"Behind this are the Dark Forces. They continuously watch over esoteric organizations, and if perchance a group is inspired by Hierarchy and is doing its work for humanity, they set up the following plan:
1. Who are the leading lights in the group? Find them out and send some “help.” This so-called help is really the beginning of the end for the group if the members are not watchful. If the focal point of the group is a man they send a pretty woman to involve him in sex or some scandal; if a woman, they send a man. They come to the leaders with smiles and promises of dedication to the cause. Yet, at the critical moment, when they are trusted, they lead the disciple into directions that lower the standards of the group. The methods are subtle and difficult to detect. But we have witnessed them firsthand over the years.
2. Find flickering lights and send them to the group or organization. These lights will fail in the group, and then they will be the ones publicly slandering the group. Flickering lights are those people who flock to groups to get “quick” teaching that will help their ego and vanity. But, when they discover that real growth requires humility, resignation, and labor they quickly become the first people to destroy the integrity of the group. This type must not be confused with disciples sent by Hierarchy to aid and uplift a group through beauty, joy, and the spirit of sacrifice; yet many times the group fails to see the difference and turns away with scorn the incoming light.
3. If the first two points do not succeed, they then feed the suspicion of certain government agencies or fanatical religious leaders about the group. These agencies then investigate and try to hinder the group.
4. They find those in the group who are really striving and find the weak links in their nature and feed it. This is probably the single greatest doorway into the group for evil. They feed doubt, fear, and lower reactionary states. Those afflicted do not even realize that this is happening to them because they are not watchful over their emotional and mental life. This lack of awareness is all the dark ones need to succeed.
It is often asked how these people live with themselves in with such dark aims? The answer is that the destructive agents are 99% of the time unconscious of what is happening. True dark magicians never expose themselves directly but work through flickering lights to achieve their aims.
Yet, we have discovered individuals who actually enter groups with a dark agenda. They have money, property, and control over others as their goal. They will stop at nothing to achieve their aims. These are easily spotted by someone who is under the influence of the Higher Self and Heart. But, the one or two in the group who can see are of no consequence to these dark agents. They know that they merely have to control the majority and “appear” to be on the side of Light and Truth; they justify their selfish actions with esoteric principles. These are the tactics of the dictator. Hitler and his Nazis perfected this technique of using Arcane knowledge and the Ancient Wisdom to support their agenda. Very few citizens of Germany saw through it at the time, and those who did were eliminated or exiled. The same occurs in esoteric groups taken over by dark agents. The few who can see what is happening are discredited, slandered, and set-up.

"These dark agencies never tire and never let up. Rest assured of that. They work 24 hours a day planning, with the most heinous cunning, the downfall of the leadership of the group. It is not the overt and obvious attack that endangers the group or Lodge; it is the unseen attack from within. I once attended a Lodge where a very high ranking Mason of position and power was in attendance. This person was completely enslaved by resentment and other personality vices. During a very powerful moment in the Ritual the dark forces used this person’s anger and internal resentment to others to change the frequency in the Lodge and every student of the light in attendance felt a pain in his heart."

"The highest degrees of Masonry are wholly dark rituals invoking demonic forces from here on Earth and on Mars. I participated in them. Their agenda and takeover of the UN was ever their agenda, from the second world war on."

In many other passages I state quite clearly how the masonic org has been completely overrun by satanic forces of darkness. The editors, so used to just passing my junk on to publication, never our revisions. Once it got out that we had left (I mean, dang, there it was in print, the whole smash!) they started after us. As we got deprogrammed from all those years of brainwashing, we started having "accidents" and misforttunes and suicides and overdoses and all that crap.

You people have no idea what you are up against. When some brings you the message, you kill the messenger. So be it. Kill us.

posted 05-18-2001 04:23 AM            

The colonel will tell you that there are no chemtrails. Look up. Check it out. DO your own thinking.

TopGunn will tell you that there are no chemtrails. Look up. Check it out. DO your own thinking.

Chemorg will tell you that there are no chemtrails, just airlines leaving contrails. Look up. Check it out. DO your own thinking.

Some people here worship these three guys and the moles that operate here. Fine. Worship away. Oh well. Whatever. Nevermind.

But I ask you this:

How are you feeling lately?

A little sick?

(Now, over the next two weeks, the colonel is going to do all he can to destroy my name - WHICH IS NOT THE ISSUE HERE - don't let him make it one.)

The issue is chemtrails.

Why are researchers with smoking gun stuff being attacked, slandered, kicked off boards and setup by moles? They don't want you getting too near the truth. That truth you don't want to know...they want you, if you must believe in CTs, is that they are GOOD for you.

...as you pay 3 bucks a gallon for gas they are holding back from you. As they destabilze the economy, making what little extra money you have left, go away. Then, when the planned panic hits and you hit the streets, they will be waiting for you.

And it's all by plan. I've seen it.

posted 05-18-2001 04:52 AM            

Well I read your stuff Don...and you're right, it doesn't matter what I believe. It is always convincing when someone just rattles off statements as if they were fact, as if they were there as first hand witnesses...and if someone asks "Well how do you know"? You can always come back and say..."Because I was there man, I was at Woodstock", And who can argue with that, right?

But here's the logical problem with your story Don: You claim to know too much. In other words, if you truly were a victim of one of these government programs, you are going to know only what they want you to know. I would think you might even seem naive at times with little knowledge of the outside world. But you certainly wouldn't know what chemtrails are any more than the rest of us. You wouldn't know what goes on at the level of a 33 degree mason unless you were one or had somehow infiltrated that group. And if you're spending all your time at the masonic lodge......how are you going to know what goes on at the local Skull and Bones meeting or Bilderburg society, or Council On Foreign relations meeting? I suppose you were there with Kissinger and Rockefeller too?

I 'll tell you how you know....you read the same conspiracy material as many of the rest of us have read....not through actual experience. How could you be all these places at once? I suppose you were also at the spray pilot's debriefing when they outlined the mission to you? And you now hint that you know the NWO agenda and who's slated for termination. Did you see the list? I suppose GW is in on this, and he golfs with you and Clinton on the weekends? Maybe you attended the white house meeting where they mapped out the death camp locations?

Naaaaaa.... the logical gap is just too huge on so many fronts here. You couldn't know any of this if you were a lowly child victim of government experimentation. An actual victim of government experimentation would most likely know very little of any big picture at all.

Your story just conflicts with itself on way too many logical grounds to be believable. Oh it's believable on the surface, if one does not apply too much logical thought to what you say......but when subjected to the harsh light of scrutiny it all starts to unravel and dissolve.

posted 05-18-2001 06:53 AM            

Discredit the witness. Discredit the truth teller. Discredit the whistle blower.

Then... when someone calls you an agent, start posting pictures of inspector gadget, and anything else you can think of, in a relentless effort to cast a ridiculous light on the truth.

The Soviets have used this method for decades. Take the truth, put it in the mouth of a fool, or cast a ridiculous spin on it, and the hearer will reject BOTH.

posted 05-18-2001 11:29 AM            

I never said I was a bonesman, or a CFR, or a Bilderberg, NEVER. Why are you inferring that I made those statements, now or at any time? Why are you purposely misleading people?

I never infiltrated masonry, I was initiated into it when I was twentyone years old and rose up through the ranks. There's a difference, agent boy.

"I 'll tell you how you know....you read the same conspiracy material as many of the rest of us have read....not through actual experience. How could you be all these places at once? I suppose you were also at the spray pilot's debriefing when they outlined the mission to you? And you now hint that you know the NWO agenda and who's slated for termination. Did you see the list? I suppose GW is in on this, and he golfs with you and Clinton on the weekends? Maybe you attended the white house meeting where they mapped out the death camp locations?"

I never made any of those statements as you have inferred. Why are you claiming that I ever stated anywhere that I knew Clinton? But, it is a fact that his DAUGHTER loved my books and sent me a note thanking me. And I've never stated that until RIGHT NOW.

Why in your above post are you claiming I made statements that I have clearly NEVER made? THe only liar and POS i see here is you.

posted 05-18-2001 11:45 AM            

A.P.I. Distributors, Inc. (A Houston firm involving famous spooks Richard
Secord, Thomas Clines, Ted Shackley): Johathan Kwitny, The Crimes Of
Patriots
Actus Technology: Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The Cult of
Intelligence
Aero Associates (suspected, involved in illegal CIA foreign weapon
sales): :
Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The Cult of Intelligence
AID (Agency for International Development - shared facilities with NIA):
Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The Cult of Intelligence
Air America: Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The Cult of
Intelligence
Air Asia: Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The Cult of
Intelligence

American Committee for Liberation (of Cuba): Victor Marchetti/John D.
Marks,
The CIA and The Cult of Intelligence
American Committee on a United Europe: Jim Hougan, Spooks
American Council of Churches (established by Howard Hunt): Torbitt
document,
Internet
Anderson Security Associates (Virginia): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Armairco (Oliver North Iran-Contra): John Prados, President's Secret Wars
Arnim Proprietary, Ltd.: Johathan Kwitny, The Crimes Of Patriots Arthur
D.
Little (hires retired spooks in quantity): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Asia Foundation: Jonathan Kwitney, The Crimes of Patriots
Association of Former Intelligence Officers (AFIO - as the name implies):
Mark
Lane, Plausible Denial, Jim Hougan, Spooks
Audio Intelligence Devices, Inc. (Ft. Lauderdale -- associated with NIA):
Jim
Hougan, Spooks
Australian Association for Cultural Freedom: Jonathan Kwitney, The Crimes
of
Patriots
Australian Association for Cultural Freedom: Jonathan Kwitney, The Crimes
of
Patriots
B.R. Fox Laboratories (B.R. Fox Company):, Jim Hougan, Spooks
Bahamas Commonwealth Bank (Vesco/IOS company): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Ball, Janik, and Novack (apparant owners of BRS Holding Company, lawyers
and
key officers for Granville Road Company, both concealed names of EC
Distributing): This author¹s belief based onexperience and research
Battelle Memorial Institute and other Battelle operations (hires retired
spooks in quantity): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Bill (Slick Willy) Clinton (President, and CIA operative): The Spotlight.
Bird Air (the famous William (Wally) Bird): Johathan Kwitny, The Crimes
Of
Patriots
Bishop, Baldwin, Rewald, Dillingham and Wong (Hawaii local family names
of
good reput usurped for financial swindles and other CIA benefit):
Johathan
Kwitny, The Crimes Of Patriots
BRS Holding Company (name on property ownership records for, and presumed
covert ownership concealment tool of local construction company) This
author¹s
research
Bruce Campbell and Company: Johathan Kwitny, The Crimes Of Patriots CAN
(Cult
Awareness Network -- an evolution of CIA mind control MK Ultra project
which,
among onther things,works with and infiltrates legitimate church groups.
Was
involved in shaping early religious paths of Reverend Tim Jones of
Jonestown
Massacre and
Caramar (Caribbean Marine Aero Corp.): Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks,
The CIA
and The Cult of Intelligence
Castle Bank and Trust (ties to both Robert Vesco and his junior in CIA
financial swindles, Nugan Hand): Johathan Kwitny, The Crimes Of Patriots
CBS (collusion with CIA to destroy Jim Garrison, access to CIA vote
fixing
information, pattern of CIA friendly newscasting and coverups): ???
Votescam;
Interview with Jim Garrison, Playboy, others
Central Investigative Agency, Jim Hougan, Spooks
Century Special (controled by ICC): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Chalk¹s International Airlines (Vesco/IOS company): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Church League of America (shares intelligence dossiers on Americans with
CIA
proprietaries): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Civil Air Transport: Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The Cult
of
Intelligence
Civilian Irregular Defense Group(s): John Prados, President's Secret Wars
Civilian Military Assistance (Oliver North Iran-Contra): John Prados,
President's Secret Wars
CMI Investments (evolved into Bishop, Baldwin, Rewald, Dillingham and
Wong):
Johathan Kwitny, The Crimes Of Patriots
Coastal Products (subsidiary on trucks of local construction company
front):
This author¹s belief based onexperience and research
Cocke and Phillips International (Nugan Hand's direct link to Intel in
Washington D.C.): Johathan Kwitny, The Crimes Of Patriots
Committee for the Defense of National Interests: John Prados, President's
Secret Wars
Committee of One Million Against the Admission of Communist China to the
United Nations: John Prados, President's Secret Wars Comptrol
International
(Vesco/CIA/arms smuggler partners): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Computerized Thermal Imaging, Inc. (COII - New local company headed by
non
other than Richard Secord of Secret Team fame): Local discovery,
Oregonian
Corporate Air Services (Oliver North Iran-Contra): John Prados,
President's
Secret Wars
COSECOIN (Corporate Security Consultants International): Jim Houghan,
Spooks
Council on Foreign Relations (CIA bedfellow or, as this work suggests,
CIA
controller): Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The Cult of
Intelligence
Crest Detective Agency (Santa Monica): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Cryogenics, Inc. (controled by Robert Vesco): Jim Hougan, Spooks
DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration -- listed here because its
leadership
originally included Lou Conein, the CIA man responsible for the massive
assassination program, Operation Pheonix, which allowed CIA takeover of
the SE
Aisian drug supply. Also inv
Defense Services, Inc.: Jim Hougan, Spooks
Defense Systems, International (related to Defense Systems, Inc, found
locally?): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Dektor Counterinteligence (Virginia): Jim Hougan, Spooks Directorate of
Science and Technology (conduit for CIA work with professors, university
departments, and research organizations): Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks,
The
CIA and The Cult of Intelligence Double Day and Company (Publisher --
knoeinhly published fraudulent CIA books): Victor Marchetti/John D.
Marks, The
CIA and The Cult of Intelligence
Double-Check Corporation: Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The
Cult
of Intelligence
Drew Pearson (reporter, regularly debriefed by CIA): Victor Marchetti,
John D.
Marks, The CIA And The Cult Of Intelligence
Eagle Aviation Technology and Services (Oliver North Iran-Contra): John
Prados, President's Secret Wars
EATSCO (the Egyptian American Transport and Service Company): Daniel
Sheenan,
on the Secret Team
EC (see also endless EC varients, PGES, Granville Road Company, Idaho
Power
Systems, Coastal Products, Fouch Electric, Linnco Electric, and law firm
of
Ball, Janik, and Novak for complete picture)
EC Company (name on file with Corporation Commissioner for local
construction company front): This author¹s belief based onexperience
and
research
EC Constuction (name on trucks of local construction company front):
This
author¹s belief based onexperience and research
EC Distributing (name on building of local construction company front):
This
author¹s belief based onexperience and research
EC Distributing (name on corporate office of local construction company
front): This author¹s belief based onexperience and research
EC Engineering (name on secondary buildings of local construction
company
front): This author¹s belief based onexperience and research
EC Pulp and Paper (name on secondary building of local construction
company
front): This author¹s belief based onexperience and research
EC Technical Services (name on select trucks of local construction
company
front): This author¹s belief based onexperience and research
EC Voice and Data (name on select trucks of local construction company
front): This author¹s belief based onexperience and research Edward
Bennett
Williams, lawyer (believed 3 & 5 "I"s founder): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Electrical Construction (alternating name in Yellow Pages for local
construction company front): This author¹s belief based onexperience
and
research
Electrical Contractors (alternating name in Yellow Pages for local
construction company front): This author¹s belief based onexperience
and
research
Electrical Contractors of Oregon (name on tax records of local
construction
company front): This author¹s belief based onexperience and research
Encounter (Magazine editor was CIA operative): Victor Marchetti/John D.
Marks,
The CIA and The Cult of Intelligence
Energy Resources (Oliver North Iran-Contra): John Prados, President's
Secret
Wars
ESI (Electronic Specialties, Inc. -- a Portland area firm controled by
ICC):
Jim Hougan, Spooks; local TV reporter doing background research on CIA
proprietaries involved in PAMCO scandal
Evergreen International Air and Rawhide Real Estate deleted from Victor Marchetti¹s book by Government censors): Oregonian; John Prados, President's Secret Wars
Export Control Systems: Jim Hougan, Spooks
Fairfield Aviation (controled byICC): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Fidelity Reporting Service (covert background checks on Americans): Jim
Hougan, Spooks
Fiduciary Trust Company (Stepchild of IOS): Victor Marchetti/John D.
Marks,
The CIA and The Cult of Intelligence
Foreign Broadcast Informatin Service (monitors radio broadcasts, even of
U.S.
commercial stations): Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The
Cult of
Intelligence
Fouch Electric (claimed parent firm of, does business with, conceals
property
for, and lied to protect local construction company front): This
author¹s
belief based onexperience and research
Fredrick A. Praeger (Publisher -- published CIA favorable books at agency
request): Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The Cult of
Intelligence

Functional Devices, Inc. (Russiaville, In.): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Fund For Peace (headed by spooks): Jim Hougan, Spooks
GEICO (Government Employees Insurance Company - provided NIA with
contributions), Jim Hougan, Spooks
Geneva's Exchange and Investment Bank (Vesco controlled): Jim Hougan,
Spooks
George Herbert Walker Bush (President, CIA Director, and CIA suspected
head of
Operation Zapata Bay of Pigs and Kennedy Assassination team and South
American
Assassinations operating out of Houston in 1963, recieved reports from
FBI
regarding JFK assassin
George L. Barnes & Associates (Los Angeles): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Gibralter Steamship Corp.: Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and
The
Cult of Intelligence
Global Financial (Vesco operation): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Golden West Airlines (controled by ICC): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Grace Capital (related to COII): Oregonian Grand Bahama Development
Company
(Vesco operation): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Grandville Road Company (presumed covert operation and its evolution into
unnamed Electrical Construction company): This author¹s research
Granville
Road Company (original front name of local construction company front):
This
author¹s belief based onexperience and research
Gray and Company (Public Relations firm working with CIA against American
Citizens -- Oliver North Iran-Contra): John Prados, President's Secret
Wars
Great American Banks (drug money laundering): Johathan Kwitny, The Crimes
Of
Patriots
Gulf Stream, Ltd. (Vesco operation): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Harper and Row, Inc. (publishers, submitted books critical of CIA to CIA
for
review and censorship prior to publishing): Victor Marchetti, John D.
Marks,
The CIA And The Cult Of Intelligence Harpoon Harry's (CIA spying on US
military on R&R): Johathan Kwitny, The Crimes Of Patriots
Harrison Salisbury (reporter, regularly debriefed by CIA): Victor
Marchetti,
John D. Marks, The CIA And The Cult Of Intelligence Harvard
University¹s
Center for International Affairs (files contained minutes of Council on
Foreign Relations meetings involving CIA operatives about CIA operations
and
other national security matters): Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA
and
The Cul
Hercules Research Corporation (METC Unit bomb development): Michael
Reconoscuito, Ted L. Gunderson, others
Hilary Rodham Clinton (CIA operative): The Spotlight
Hill & Knowlton (Public Relations firm used for CIA disinformation
campaigns
against American citizens): Johan Carlisle, Public Relationships: Hill &
Knowlton, Robert Gray, and the CIA, Spring 1993 issue of CAQ
Hogan & Hartson, legal firm (Edward Bennett Williams firm): Jim Hougan,
Spooks

Howard Hughes Medical Institute (involved CIA operated hospital for
plastic
surgury, recouperations, concealments, and other covert operations,
literal
and figurative, where CIA's Evergreen flew both Shaw of Iran and Howard
Hughes
in their last days): Jim Hughes Corporation, Glomar Explorer (CIA project
to
retrieve sunken Soviet nuclear missiles): Jim Hougan, Spooks
IBM (International Business Machines -- IBM executives have stated they
consider themselves an extension of the federal government, all IBM
mainframes
have back-door accesses available to government snooping, IBM hires large
quantities of CIA and other in
ICC (International Controls Corp -- controled by Robert Vesco): Jim
Hougan,
Spooks
Idaho Power Systems (subsidiary of local construction company front):
This
author¹s belief based onexperience and research Idea, Incorporated
(Oliver
North¹s Contra assistance cover): Daniel Sheenan, on the Secret Team
Impossible Electronic Techniques (Russiaville, In.): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Inter-American Capital (Vesco operation): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Inter-Probe, Inc. (METC Unit bomb development): Michael Reconoscuito, Ted
L.
Gunderson, others
Interarmco (International Armament Corp.): Victor Marchetti/John D.
Marks, The
CIA and The Cult of Intelligence
Intercontinental Industries (controled by ICC): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Intermountain Aviation: Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The
Cult
of Intelligence
International Bancorp, Ltd (Vesco/IOS company): Jim Hougan, Spooks
International Business Communications (Oliver North Iran-Contra): John
Prados,
President's Secret Wars
International Credit Bank of Switzerland (headed by WWII inteligence
operative
with more ties to Mossad and Bilderbergers than CIA, but worked closely
with
Vesco and IOS): Jim Hougan, Spooks
International Investigators, Inc. (started by Robert Peloquin, presumed
architect of the Three I¹s and Five I¹s project portrayed in this
book): Jim
Hougan, Spooks
International Police Services (INPOLSE -- an NIA equivalent dealing more
with
forgeign law enforcement agencies): Jim Hougan, Spooks International
Research
and Trade Corporation (later became EATSCO): Daniel Sheenan, on the
Secret
Team
Intertel (International Intelligence Incorporated started by Robert
Peloquin,
presumed architect of the Three I¹s and Five I¹s project portrayed in
this
book), Jim Hougan, Spooks Investair Leasing (Oliver North Iran-Contra):
John
Prados, President's Secret Wars
IOS (Investor¹s Overseas Services -- prone to investing client monies
into
nefarious CIA projects -- later ³looted² by Robert Vesco): Victor
Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The Cult of Intelligence
ITT (International Telephone and Telegraph -- collusion with CIA to
destoy
South American governments and take over telecommunications systems):
Victor
Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The Cult of Intelligence
Jack Anderson (history of publishing sensitive information helpful to CIA
projects, close ties to Intel community): Watergate Plumbers got their
start
thanks to him, for instance.
John P. Muldoon Detective Agency (Katharine Graham¹s prefered agency):
Jim
Hougan, Spooks
Joseph Alsop (reporter, regularly debriefed by CIA): Victor Marchetti,
John D.
Marks, The CIA And The Cult Of Intelligence
Joseph Z. Taylor & Associates (Drug smuggling -- documents CIA agents
being
busted with 50 lbs of drugs but released with drugs at CIA request): Jim
Hougan, Spooks
Kenyon Electronics (controled by ICC): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Kilmory Investments, Ltd (Vesco/IOS bedfellow): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Lake Resources (Oliver North Iran-Contra): John Prados, President's
Secret
Wars
Law Enforcement Assistance Administration (Federal agency so infiltrated
with
retired CIA that it must truly be said that CIA has strong influance on
policy
and field-level law enforcement personnel): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Law Enforcement Intelligence Unit (fraternaty of cops who have attended
NIA):
Daniel Sheenan, on the Secret Team
Linking Progressive Corp., S.A. (Vesco operation): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Linnco Electric (subsidiary of local construction company front): This
author¹s belief based onexperience and research
Look Magazine (made changes in articles from republished works critical
of CIA
at CIA direction): Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The Cult
of
Intelligence
Management Safeguards, Inc. (New York): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Center for International Studies
(funded by CIA and prepared CIA backed think-tank reports): Victor
Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The Cult of Intelligence McCord
Associates (of Watergate fame, with offices in Mayland and Houston --
George
Bush¹s stomping grounds): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Mercantile Bank and Trust Company: Johathan Kwitny, The Crimes Of
Patriots
Meridian Arms (METC Unit bomb development): Michael Reconoscuito, Ted L.
Gunderson, others
Miami Daily News (employed Nobel Prize winner and known friend of CIA,
Hal
Hendrix, who wrote articles using CIA supplied information): Victor
Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The Cult of Intelligence
Michigan State University (used to operate a clandestine police training
facility in South Vietnam): Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and
The
Cult of Intelligence
Military Armaments Corp. (Ingram machine gun ³MAC-10² mfg): Jim
Hougan, Spooks

MITRE Corporation (hires retired spooks in quantity): Jim Hougan, Spooks
National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse (operation of hit-squads
to
assassinate competing drug lords): Jim Hougan, Spooks National Committee
for a
Free Europe: Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The Cult of
Intelligence
National Endowment for the Preservation of Liberty (Oliver North
Iran-Contra
-- not truly a front, but operated for CIA benefit): John Prados,
President's
Secret Wars
National Intelligence Academy, (NIA, now the Liddy Institute), Jim
Hougan,
Spooks
National Railways Security Bureau, Inc.: Jim Hougan, Spooks
National Student Association (funded by CIA): Victor Marchetti/John D.
Marks,
The CIA and The Cult of Intelligence
New York Times (collusion with CIA to cover up CIA crimes, CIA freindly
reporting, knowingly publishing CIA supplied articles containing slander
without confirming facts): Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and
The
Cult of Intelligence; others
Newsweek (willingly published CIA promotional and dissinformation
articles):
Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The Cult of Intelligence
Norman Jaspan Associates (New York - 500 employees): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Norman Jaspen & Associates: Jim Hougan, Spooks
Nugan Fruit Group (Drug operations): Johathan Kwitny, The Crimes Of
Patriots
Nugan Hand Bank (Principle arm of CIA's Michael Hand swindles and drug
operations): Jonathan Kwitney, The Crimes of Patriots
Omni Spectra, Inc. (Tempe, Az.): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Orange Spot (Soft drink company used for money laundering): Johathan
Kwitny,
The Crimes Of Patriots
Overseas Southeast Asia Supply Company (Sea Supply): John Prados,
President's
Secret Wars
Pacific Corporation: Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The Cult
of
Intelligence; John Prados, President's Secret Wars
PAMCO (Pacific Aircraft Maintenance Company -- a swindel of $60M in state
employee retirement funds through Pacific Corp. and involving Evergreen
Aviation. Site now operating as ³AMC² with considerable secrecy. A
similar
company has been established in Paradise Island Casino (at one time, a
Vesco
operation with exotic partners in organized crime, religious leaders, and
presidential bedfellows -- an a casino where this author played a single
$5
roulette bet and, upon wining, let it ride to win again -- a PGES
(presumed
covert operations as Portland General Energy Systems -- claimed to be
division
of Portland General Electric, denied by PGE. Vanished after discovery):
This
author¹s belief based on experience and research
Phoenix Financial (Vesco operation): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Price Waterhouse (not a true front, but certified obviously fraudulent
books
for CIA fronts): Johathan Kwitny, The Crimes Of Patriots
Project Democracy (Oliver North Iran-Contra): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Project Democracy (Oliver North Iran-Contra): John Prados, President's
Secret
Wars
Property Resources, Ltd. (Vesco operation): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Quantum Corp (not the hard drive maker): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Radio Americas: Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The Cult of
Intelligence
Radio Free Europe: Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The Cult
of
Intelligence
Radio Liberty: Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The Cult of
Intelligence
Radio Swan: Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The Cult of
Intelligence
Rapid-American Corp. (Vesco-IOS related): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Red Pearl Bay, S.A. (Vesco operation): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Resorts International (Parent of Intertel): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Robert A. Maheu Associates (of Howard Hughes fame): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Robert R. Mullen Company (Howard Hughes funded, CIA operated with Larry
O¹Brien of DNC/Watergate fame involvements -- significant since the
Mullen
Company helped the Watergate burglers bug O¹Brien¹s DNC office,
leading one to
ask if we should believe the Santa Elena (Oliver North Iran-Contra): John
Prados, President's Secret Wars
SECOIN (Security Consultants International): Jim Hougan, Spooks Service
Observance Bureau of The Bell System (conducts unregulated wiretaps of
clients
- 175,000 in Manhattan alone in one year -- shared freely with
inteligence
community): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Sheffield Edwards & Associates (Virginia): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Shenandoah Airleasing (Oliver North Iran-Contra): John Prados,
President's
Secret Wars
SIONICS (Ingram machine gun developer): Jim Hougan, Spooks Soldier of
Fortune
(started by intel types and heavy employer of former intel types - walks
the
fine line of exposing and protecting intel criminal activities): Jim
Hougan,
Spooks
Southern Air Transport: Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The
Cult
of Intelligence
Spectre Security Products (Orange, Ca.): Jim Hougan, Spooks
St. Lucia Airways (Oliver North Iran-Contra): John Prados, President's
Secret
Wars
Standard Commerz Bank of Switzerland (Vesco controlled): Jim Hougan,
Spooks
Stanford Technology Trading Group International (STTGI -- Oliver North
Iran-Contra): John Prados, President's Secret Wars
Streamlight, Inc. (King of Prussia, Pa.): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Sullivan & Cromwell (legal firm repeatedly involved in CIA interests):
John
Prados, President's Secret Wars
Summit Aviation (Oliver North Iran-Contra): John Prados, President's
Secret
Wars
The Aquatic Club: Johathan Kwitny, The Crimes Of Patriots
The Bourbon and Beefsteak Bar and Restaurant (CIA spying on US military
on
R&R): Johathan Kwitny, The Crimes Of Patriots
The Broyhill Building (Arlington -- houses CIA training facility): Victor
Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The Cult of Intelligence
The Law Association for Asia and the Western Pacific: Jonathan Kwitney,
The
Crimes of Patriots
The Second National Bank of Homstead (Florida -- drug money laundering):
Johathan Kwitny, The Crimes Of Patriots
The Texas Tavern (CIA spying on US military on R&R): Johathan Kwitny, The
Crimes Of Patriots
The Washington Monthly (ex-intel agent and columnist Chritopher Pyle
writes
article exposing military intelligence blunders in an area CIA wishes to
have
more control): Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and The Cult of
Intelligence
The World Finance Corporation (the largest narcotics investigation of the
decade (70's) against this firm was dropped at CIA request): Johathan
Kwitny,
The Crimes Of Patriots
Time Magazine (knowingly hired CIA operatives as reporters, edited/killed
stories at CIA direction, obtained intelligence information for stories
from
CIA after White House had denied access): Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks,
The
CIA and The Cult of Intell
Tom Braden, syndicated columnist and anti-JFK conspiracy author: Jim
Hougan,
Spooks
Tractron (Vienna, Va.): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Trade Winds Motel (part of NIA, and sharing the same name as Operation
Trade Winds, a project involving Robert Peloquin an Robert Vesco
interests),
Jim Hougan, Spooks
Trident Bank (Vesco operation): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Udall Corp. (Oliver North Iran-Contra): John Prados, President's Secret
Wars
United Fruit Company (the whole reason for the war in Guatemala, and
steeped
in CIA activities, including leadership by John Foster Dulles, former
OSS):
John Prados, President's Secret Wars
Unnamed Exxon subsidary (CIA merged with Venezuela company to the
advantage of
both): Jim Hougan, Spooks
USIA (United States Information Agency): Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks,
The
CIA and The Cult of Intelligence
USIA Weapon Sales (a former local Portland area gun store), Author,
personal
investigation
Vanguard Service Corporation: Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA and
The
Cult of Intelligence
Vector, Ltd. (Vesco operation): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Venture Fund (Vesco operation): Jim Hougan, Spooks
Wackenhut: Jim Hougan: Jim Hougan, Spooks; Michael Riconosciuto,
Wackenhut/CIA
operative
Washington Post (intel veteran and columnist Stewart Alsop and other
writers
profer CIA profitable articles): Victor Marchetti/John D. Marks, The CIA
and
The Cult of Intelligence
Western International Ground Maintenance Organization (WIGMO): John
Prados,
President's Secret Wars
William F. Buckley (former CIA agent, now media giant): Mark Lane,
Plausible
Denial
World Marine, Inc. (Douglas Schlachter and Opal document related):
Johathan
Kwitny, The Crimes Of Patriots
Zapato Off-Shore Oil Company (George Bush front, Houston, 1963): Mark
Lane,
Plausible Denial
Zapato Petroleum Corp. (George Bush front, Houston,1963): Mark Lane,
Plausible
Denial
Zenith Technical Enterprizes (Bay of Pigs command central operating on
the
University of Miami campus): John Prados, President's Secret Wars

posted 05-18-2001 12:41 PM            

Ya know...you won't like this and how it ends, Captain Real Estate. You are going outside command structure here, I am told, and the hammer is coming down the pike.

Here is the colonel's email address at the pentagon:

phillipsh@pentagon.af.mil

HORACE DANIEL PHILLIPS

posted 05-18-2001 02:09 PM            

Parting thing:
The colonel will tell you that there are no chemtrails. Look up. Check it out. DO your own thinking.
TopGunn will tell you that there are no chemtrails. Look up. Check it out. DO your own thinking.
Chemorg will tell you that there are no chemtrails, just airlines leaving contrails. Look up. Check it out. DO your own thinking.
Some people here worship these three guys and the moles that operate here. Fine. Worship away. Oh well. Whatever. Nevermind.
But I ask you this:
How are you feeling lately?
A little sick

Ok….so the assumption is that you know the truth about chemtrails….and chemtrails make people sick. How do you know this? I mean we can all speculate, and come up with circumstantial evidence that this might be the case…..that’s as good as the rest of us can do. But you are implying that you know for sure, due to your experience and background. That’s why I asked…..were you actually at the spray pilot’s debriefing? How do you know this other than the way the rest of us speculate about this? Do you have first hand knowledge? This seems to be what you are implying!

Let’s look at your list, you’ve just presented: What firsthand life experience allowed you to know what companies fronted for the CIA? We all have heard about George Bush senior and Zapata oil on your list…but where did you get this information? Didn’t you just copy it off of a conspiracy site? OR are you claiming you obtained this knowledge through first hand experience? Again, this is an important question, because your claims of this mysterious underworld experience imply that you have more of a handle on the truth than the rest of us. How so? Do you have first hand experience with the supposed CIA fronts mentioned on the list? What makes you more qualified to deliver this information as truth than any of us who can just go and copy the same thing off of any of the plethora of conspiracy websites out there?

You claim to know that level 33 of the Masonic cult is essentially doing the devil’s work, practicing satanic rituals and following a satanic plan for the world. Many believe this, as it is one of the top conspiracies of all time. I’m not even saying its not true myself. But here’s the question I keep asking: How do you know this? Do you have first hand experience of what goes on at the top level of the Masonic order? This organization is well known to be highly compartmentalized. Nobody at the lower levels knows what happens on the next level until you reach it. In order to make the 33rd level you must be chosen for many reasons, among which would presumably be belief in the practice of Freemasonry. In other words, your loyalty would be complete at that point. Are you therefore claiming you are a 33 degree Mason? And if not, how do you know what those at that level know? Obviously that knowledge cannot come from first hand experience. You must have obtained that knowledge like the rest of us, through rumor and heresay….therefore your experience makes little difference. Isn’t this the case? If you are claiming first hand experience, then it should be a simple matter of telling us that you are indeed a 33 degree Mason!

Now, I’m not going to back off from this line of reasoning and questioning Don, and I will be very consistent. You will know that the minute you make a claim, I’m going to ask. “How do you know”? “Where have you obtained this information“? “Do you have first hand experience”? I would expect others to ask the same of me...if I make an unfounded statement.

Any good author should easily be able to document their sources so this shouldn’t be to difficult a thing for you do. If you want the thinking among us to buy your claims, you are going to have to offer this level of proof, given what you are claiming is fairly outlandish, by most standards.

These are certainly reasonable things to ask of one claiming to possess the truth. These should be easy questions to answer.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by cydoniaquest on 05-18-2001]

posted 05-18-2001 02:50 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by nsasucks:
Here is the colonel's email address at the pentagon:

phillipsh@pentagon.af.mil

---

Where did you get that email, nsa'?
It doesn't seem to work.

Your message

To: phillipsh@pentagon.af.mil
Subject:
Sent: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:29:45 -0400

did not reach the following recipient(s):

phillipsh@pentagon.af.mil on Fri, 18 May 2001 15:27:44 -0400
The recipient name is not recognized
The MTS-ID of the original message is:
c=US;a=DMS;p=GOV+DMS+NIPR;l=DFMFITAYZ0040105181927LCC55D8A
MSEXCH:IMS:ORGANIZATION:dfpentagon :DFMFITAYZ004 0 (000C05A6) Unknown
Recipient

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Thermit on 05-18-2001]

posted 05-18-2001 04:15 PM            

I wish I could check out your latest, but I guess it will have to wait a bit longer.

I hope you stay strong during this strange time, and realize that there are people who respect the dedication, talent and integrity that you have displayed.

I'll be back soon, and with a vengeance.

My next topic?

Government agencies and their current campaign to indentify users of internet forums...

Court orders.

Gag orders.

Documentation.

They're not going to get away with this, people.

Stay sharp.

posted 05-18-2001 05:20 PM            

That is a very good suggestion you make about settling Don's and my dispute in court. I am willing should it occur but you would have to ask Don why he delays or stalls such an action. My attorney (Raymond Micklewright of Wolfe, Slatkin in Denver--I have used them for years) attempted to serve Don papers but Don moved away from his temporary lodgings in Burbank on West Riverside Drive before we could serve him. I attempted to locate Don via xxxxxx while she lived with her mother, xxxxxxxxx, (xxxxxxx xxxin xxxxxx xx (xxx) xxxx-xxxx) but they either covered for him or mislead me as they said Don had moved into a hotel and Trisha had almost no contact with Don. it was only through the e-mail below that Don revealed his most recent whereabouts but I had not seriously attempted to locate him. That said, I would gladly accept terms via a mediator should Don be willing to settle my claim against him. He did say he owes me at least $2800.00. Frankly if I saw that amount Don could go on his very merry way and I would hope to never utter his name again. BTW-used to live in North Highlands and attended high school in Roseville. Love northern California.

Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:16:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Don Bradley nosleeptonight_us@yahoo.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: I see
To: colorado78@yahoo.com (this an account my wife and I use on very rare occasions that Don discovered on the Amazon website where I have reviewed his attempt at writing.) Check it out.

You are still a piece of shit. How do you like your name and mil ID being associated with chemtrail misinformation? It's going all over the underground community, bitch.

Murdering the people, eh Bitch. Still feel like a man, you fucking cunt.

Dan Phillips
OPERATION CLOVERLEAF
OPERATION SLEDGEHAMMER
KILO KILO KILO
CHEMTRAIL KILO CHEMTRAIL

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Also so that some of you can verify or disprove Don's rantings. Rawhide Realty a front for the CIA--now that's funny--I suggest you call Gail Carr at (719) 599-0900 in Colorado Springs, Colorado, for yourself (they were located there last time I checked on my house). Did they make you list Don?

Four Corners--ya right. That's Cortez, Colorado, and why the CIA would ever be located there you'd have to ask Don on that one. That's a dousy!! However, I will not fall to the level that Don has by attempting to skirt the issue at hand. Don is duplicitous, vane, and attempts to create paranoia with his feeble attempts at truth. BTW--pretty much all USAF vehicles are either blue or white.

John? Do not have a clue who that is? Perhaps you could enlightern us Don? I for one would be curious who some of your friends are. Dentist? My realtor said Trisha had some pretty nasty teeth and required some dental work, no more, no less.

Got my e-mail address wrong Don. Nice try but I have moved on since broke the contract you signed. Did Rawhide induce you with some deadly serum to make you sign? YGBSM!!

For some of you here who may have been scammed by Bradley. Here is one of his early e-mails to me regarding the property. No mention of the CIA here!!

Don never figured out that you have to open the flue to start a fire. Does he really have paintings worth $750K yet requires someone to donate a soundcard for his use? Truth or liar? You know where I stand, I await your call on the mediator. Perhaps we could both travel to Colorado Springs and solicit David Mize's counsel. Tell you what I'll pay your airfare if you agree to mediation. However, you must abide by his decision regardless of the outcome. Ball is again inyour court Don. BTW--what name are you going by these days? Owing people is tough, so tough that you manufacture amazing stories to create empathy for your cause--whatever that is today. See no profanity either. My e-mail is FighterjockF16@yahoo.com

posted 05-18-2001 06:51 PM            

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Bradley

Recently received a letter from a Colorado collection agency. In your reply
you said your lawyer would be in touch. Well he has failed to reply. If
you really have a lawyer, would you mind sharing his or her address and
telephone number?

Did some surfing and noticed some people have doubted your concentration
camp theories. Seems they are in touch with reality.

Also, just this week I stopped over at LAX following a two week visit to
China. Nice place Glendale and Alhambra, much better than Beijing and Xian.
Tell Trish hello from me and I sincerely hope the boys are doing well in
school.
END EMAIL

As you can see, he does these little stalking number threats.

In his previous post, he claims my residence at 3917 Riverside, Burbank, CA

well, that is a Disney High-rise building and printing company. His intel people didn't inform him correctly that my last residence there was in 1984, for a period of one year, then the buildings were demolished for Disney Cable, which took over the whole block. You need to really get your s**t and your lies together colonel.

Thermit: these are the known emails he has used to attack us.

dan.ros@prodigy.net
phillipsh@pentagon.af.mil
colorado78@yahoo.com

Back before we even knew that he was one of a group of principals behind the cutout RAWHIDE, he was sending this email to our publicists.

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>From phillipsh@pentagon.af.mil Wed Jan 20 12:10:06 1999
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From: "Phillips, Dan, Lt Col, AF/SEI"
To: "'Mr. Don Bradley'"
Subject: Possible Radio Show with WJFK in Washington DC
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:03:17 -0500
Importance: high
X-Priority: 1
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Mr. Bradley
How can we get in touch for an upcoming engagement?

For Ros Phillips, Producer
H. Daniel Phillips

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The veritable pile of stuff is amazing. He sold his alleged account a few years back, had released the property within 31 days, and has done a little more than just written letters and sent emails. He brags about "seeing us at the mall" and this or that. It's pretty sick stuff, but hey, he's AFintel, what do you expect from those guyz?

posted 05-18-2001 06:59 PM            

Donald

Long time no hear--what's up buddy? Chemtrails?
That's a riot!! See your vocabulary has expanded
somewhat--that's good. Perhaps there is a career for
you authoring smut?

How's work going? Earn enough money to get Trish's
teeth fixed yet?

Frankly I don't care at all about the Chemtrail
conspiracy theory. Americans never met a conspiracy
theory they didn't like. Too bad Jeff Rense and Sarah
Foster blew up your concentration camp hoax.
Persoanlly I thought you could milk some money out of
that one. LOL!! Jeff and I agreed to disagree on the
Chemtrail thing. It just doesn't exist. Where's the
underground community stuff--I'd like to read it for
entertainment value?? Nutcases like you, Peter
Farley, and other people who can't hold down a
respectable life believe this crap. Take it to the
FAA. If you need someone to talk to maybe I can put
you in touch with my high school mate who works there.

Murder? Never hurt anyone in my life intentionally.
Hunt a fair bit shooting elk, deer, geese, grouse,
ducks but never a person. Tell you what Donald, you
like calling me names so much I'll give you a chance
to prove your manhood by boxing you man to man. I am
oldere than you of course so age favors you and you
use such demeaning language that you are probably
pretty tough but I am game if you are??? How about
it?

What's a military ID? You know something I don't?
What rank am I Donald?

Anyway it is always great to hear from my little
California buddy.

ANOTHER

Hey Don

How you doing? Still have a way with words I see.
Too bad you can't use a real e-mail or address with
all your creditors after you. Get Trish's teeth fixed
yet?

You know I don't care about Chemtrails. Jeff Rense
and I talked coming to an agreement to disagree. In
fact he laughed about your concentration camp
conspiracy. Visited Dachau outside in February and it
made me laugh at your concocted conspiracy theory.
But you know that don't you? Americans never met a
conspiracy they didn't like. People are actually
making a living off it. Jeff Rense, Peter Farley, too
bad you can't. Chemtrails--okay where is it posted?
I'd like a few laughs. Mil ID--what's that? Frankly
I don't care about being associated with
chemtrails--it's all a bunch of hogwash.

posted 05-18-2001 07:05 PM            

In fact, it was you, on this thread, who started to try to destroy any anonymity I used to enjoy. So

What is your real name?
Where do you live?
What are your credentials?
What have you done since 18 and prove it?

posted 05-18-2001 07:09 PM            

Here is a major roadmap clue for you regarding the producer email the colonel sent us in March 99.

1. He used his real name.
2. If we had signed a lease contract with a Horace or Daniel Phillips, wouldn't we have caught this email?
3. Had we done so, he wouldn't have felt the need to use his real name, he would have used the many aliases he uses on Amazon, Borders, and BN online to post slander about us. Go to those sites and you can see...there he is again, all over them, the same guy with the same evil.

posted 05-18-2001 07:19 PM            

I'll start with the agency and all the years of stuff I have on them. Then you can put words in my mouth, but you really are going to need to go after the original researchers and not the poster, ya know. Trying to kill the messenger - your style - won't kill the message.

posted 05-18-2001 07:26 PM            

List of Significant Freemasons

US-PRESIDENTS: George Washington, James Monroe, Andrew Jackson, James Polk, James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, James Garfield, William McKinley, Theodore Roosevelt, William Howard Taft, Warren G. Harding, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman, Lyndon B. Johnson, Gerald R. Ford.

POLITICAL LEADERS W.W: Winston Churchill, Simon Bolivar, Edmund Burke, Benito Juarez, Edward VII, Geroge VI, Bernardo O'Higgins, José de San Martin, Francisco de Paula Santander, José Rizal, José Marti, Pandit Nehru, Lajos Kossuth, Jonas Furrer, Guiseppe Mazzini, Eduard Benes, John A. MacDonald, Aaron Burr, George McGovern, Barry Goldwater, Estes Kefauer, Thomas E. Dewey, Alf Landon, Hubert H. Humphrey, Wendel Wilke, W.E.B. DuBois, William Jennings Bryant, King Hussein of Jordan, Yasser Arafat, Francois Mitterand, Helmut Kohl, Gerhard Shroeder, Tony Blair, Yikzak Rabbin, Cecil Rhodes, Sir John J.C. Abbott, Stephen F. Austin, John G. Diefenbaker, Samuel J. Ervin Jr. (Watergate committee), Benjamin Franklin, John Hancock, Patrick Henry, Rev. Jesse Jackson, Sam Nunn, Lowell Thomas (brough Lawrence of Arabia to pub. not.), Gov. George C. Wallace, Strom Thurman, Jesse Helms, Robert Dole, Jack Kemp, Al Gore, Prince Phillip (GB), Zbigniew Brzezinski, Lord Peter Carrington, Andrew Carnegie, W. Averell Harriman, Henry Kissinger, Richard D. Heideman, Robert McNamara.

MILITARY LEADERS: Omar Bradley, John J. Pershing, Douglas McArthur, General Winfield Scott, Captain Eddie Rickenbacker, Jimmy Doolittle, General Mark Clarkem General George C. Marshall, General Henry "Hap" Arnold, John Paul Jones, Afred von Tirpitz (submarine warfare)

ARTISTS AND ENTERTAINERS: W.A. Mozart, Leopold Mozart, Ludwig van Beethoven, Jean Sibelius, Franz Liszt, Josef Haydn, Irving Berlin, Gutzon Borglum, Charles Peale, Alfons M. Mucha, Richard Wagner, John Philip Sousa, Gilbert & Sullivan, George Gershwin, George M. Cohen, Count Basie, Louise Armstrong, Nat King Cole, Giacomo Meyerbeer, Sigmund Romberg, John Wayne, Red Skelton, Clarke Gable, W.C. Fields, Will Rogers, Burl Ives, Roy Rogers, Danny Thomas, Ernest Borgnine, Oliver Hardy, Tom Mix, Audie Murphy, Gene Autry, Wallace Beery, Eddie Cantor, Roy Clarke, George M. Cohan, Walt Disney, Duke Ellington, Douglas Fairbanks, Leonardo da Vinci, Arthur Godfrey, Bob Hope, Harry Houdini, Al Jolson, Elmo Lincoln (Tarzan), Harold C. Lloyd,.jr, Tom Mix, Ronald Reagan, Will Rogers, Peter Sellers, William Shakespeare, Charles "Tom Thumb" Stratton, Paul Whiteman (King of Jazz), William Wyler (dir. of Ben Hur), Cecil B. DeMille, Sir Arthur Sullivan, John Zoffany.

MOVIE INDUSTRY: Jack Warner, Louise B. Mayer (MGM), Darryl F. Zanuck (20th Century Fox)

INDUSTRY, TRADE, BANKING AND LABOR: Henry Ford, Samuel Gompers, Walter P. Chrysler, John Wanamaker, S.S. Kresge, J.C. Penney, John Jacob Astor, John L. Lewis, Pehr G. Gyllenhammar (Volvo), Percy Barnevik (ABB), André Citroën, Samuel Colt (Colt revolver), Edwin L. Drake (oil), Rockefeller family, Rothschild family, King C. Gillette (Razors), Charles C. Hilton (Hilton hotels), Sir Thomas Lipton (Tea), Harry S. New (Airmail), Ransom E. Olds (Oldsmobile), David Sarnoff (father of TV), John W. Teets, Dave Thomas (Wendy's Rest.), Edgar Bronfman Jr. (Seagram Whiskey), Rich DeVos (Amway), Alan Greenspan (Fed. Reserve), Giovanni Agnelli (FIAT), Peter Wallenberg (SE-Bank Sweden)

ADVENTURERS: Lewis & Clarke, Charles A. Lindbergh, Kit Carson, Roald Amundsen, Admiral Richard Byrd, Commodore Robert Peary, Kit Carson, Casanova, William "Buffalo Bill" Cody, Davy Crockett, Meriwether Lewis, Robert E. Peary (Northpole)

PHILOSOPHERS: Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, Gotthold E. Lessing, Voltaire

ASTRONAUTS: Buzz Aldrin, Neil Armstrong, Leroy Gordon Cooper, Donn Eisele, Virgil I. Grissom, Edgar D. Mitchell, Walter Schirra Jr., Thomas P. Stafford, Paul Weitz, James Irvin, John Glenn

WRITERS: Mark Twain, Sir Walter Scott, Rudyard Kipling, Robert Burns, Wassily I. Maikow, Heinrich Heine, Jean P.C. de Florian, Leopoldo Lugoner, Antonio de Castro Alves, James Boswell, Alexander Pushkin, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Jonathan Swift, Oscar Wilde, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Burns, Carlo Collodi (Pinoccio), Edward Gibbon, Francis Scott Key (US NAtional Anthem), Rudyard Kipling, Felix Salten (Bambi), Lewis Wallace (Ben Hur), Alexander Pope

MEDICINE: Alexander Fleming (Penicillin), Jules Bordet, Antoine DePage, Edward Jenner, Charles & William Mayo, Karl & William Menninger, Karl A. Menninger (psychiatrist), Andrew T. Still (Osteopathy)

SCIENCE: Carl Sagan, Hans C. Orsted, J.J Frk. von Berzelius, Alfred Edmund Brehms, Luther Burbank, Johan Ernst Gunnerus, Albert Abraham Michelson (measured speed of light), Gaspard Monge, C.F.S. Hahnemann, Pedro N. Arata, Alexandre Gustave Eiffel, Jame Smithson, John Fitch (Steamboats), Joseph Ignance Guillotin (inventor of the Guillotin), Edward Jenner (vaccin), Simon Lake (submarine), Franz Anton Mesmer (Hypnotism), Albert Einstein, A.J. Sax (saxophone)

LAW: Henry Baldwin, Hugo L. Black, John Blair Jr., Samuel Blatchford, Harold H. Burton, James F. Byrnes, John Catton, Thomas C. Clarke, John H. Clarke, William Cushing, Willis van Devanter, William O. Douglas, Oliver Ellsworth, Stephen J. Field, John M. Harlan, RObert H. Jackson, Joseph E. Lamar, Thurgood Marshall, Stanley Matthews, Sherman Minton, Tom Mix, William H. Moody, Samuel Nelson, William Paterson, Mahlon Pitney, Stanley F. Reed, Wiley B. Rutledge, Potter Stewart, Noah H. Swayne, Thomas Todd, Robert Trimble, Frederick M. Vinson, Earl Warren, Levi Woodbury, William B. Woods

OTHERS: Frederic A. Bartholdi (designed the Staue of Liberty), Daniel Carter Beard (founder of Boy Scouts), Cornelius Hedges (Yellowstone Nat.Park), James Hoban (architect U.S Captial), James Naismith (basketball), Paul Revere (famous American)

EDUCATION: Robert E.B. Baylor, Leland Stanford (Railroads & Stanford University)

RELIGIOUS LEADERS: Father Francisco Calvo (Jesuit Cat. Priest), Geoffrey Fisher (Canterbury), Billy Graham, Rev. Jesse Jackson, Joseph Fort Newton, Robert Shuller, Oral Roberts, Louise Farrahkan (Nation of Islam), G. Bromley Oxman (friend of Billy Graham), Joseph Smith (Mormon cult), Hyrum Smith (Brother), Brigham Young (2nd leader of Mormon cult), Sidney Rigdon (early Mormon), Heber C. Kimball, Spencer Kimball, Aleister Crowley (Satanist), Gerald B. Gardner (Wiccan), Wynn Westcott (Golden Dawn)

ORGANIZATIONS: Jean Henry Dunant (Red Cross), Melvin Jones (Lions Int.), Giuseppe Mazzini (Ital. Illuminati leader), Albert Pike (Ku Klux Klan)

INTELLIGENCE: J. Edgar Hoover, William Casey, Allen Dulles, Richard Secord, et al

posted 05-18-2001 07:37 PM            

KNOWN FEDERAL SURVEILLANCE FREQUENCIES!!!

(thank you CQ, for the inspiration. I couldn't have done it without your help!)

Each of these are by agency, so now you can tune into the what they are hearing about you and locate those little nasties!!!

Specific Federal Surveillance Frequencies

149.3500, 165.9125, 167.3375, 167.3425, 167.4875, 168.0115,
169.2000, 169.4450, 169.5050, 170.2450, 170.3050, 171.0450,
171.1050, 171.4500, 171.6000, 171.7500, 171.8450, 171.8500,
171.9050, 172.0000, 172.2000, 172.2125, 172.2375, 172.2625,
172.2875, 172.3125, 172.3375, 172.3625, 172.3875, 172.5500,
173.3375

169.445, 169.505, 170.245, 170.305, 171.045, 171.105, 171.845, 171.905

27.5750 Customs Low Power under 5 watts
27.5850 Customs Low Power under 5 watts
163.1000 Customs Low Power under 30 watts
418.5750 Customs Low Power under 30 watts

40.1200 Federal Shared Mobile Locator Transmitters "Bumper Beepers"
40.1700 Federal Shared Mobile Locator Transmitters "Bumper Beepers"
40.2200 Federal Shared Mobile Locator Transmitters "Bumper Beepers"
40.2700 Federal Shared Mobile Locator Transmitters "Bumper Beepers"

164.9125 FBI Surveillance
165.9125 ATF F5 Surveillance
166.2875 ATF
170.4125 ATF
172.2000 DOJ/DEA CH.1
171.6000 DOJ/DEA CH.2

406.2750 Secret Service
407.8000 Secret Service, CIA, State Department
408.0500 Federal Shared
408.5750 Federal Shared
409.4000 Federal Shared
408.5000 Secret Service
408.9750 Secret Service

418.0500 DEA Low Power
418.0750 DEA Low Power
418.5750 DEA Low Power
418.7500 DEA
418.6750 DEA
418.9000 DEA F2 CINDY (416.325) Surveillance
418.7500 DEA F3 GAIL Surveillance/Strike Force
418.6750 DEA F4 EMILY (416.325) Surveillance

960-1215 MHz Spread Spectrum Systems (Wideband)

8-13 GHz Very popular for wideband, low power (under 10-100mw)
video and audio devices

posted 05-18-2001 07:45 PM            

Surveillance and Spy Satellite Frequencies
(Mostly Wideband Spread Spectrum/LPI channels)

posted 05-18-2001 07:49 PM            

Commonly Used Professional and Law Enforcement Bugging Frequencies
37.000 - 952 MHz FCC Surveillance Blanket Authorization

47 CFR 90.19 "Physical surveillance, stakeouts, raids..."
Straight AM/FM/WFM, FM-Subcarrier, SSB, QAM, Spread Spectrum, and Frequency Hopping. If encrypted, it usually uses in-band voice inversion or 56 bit DES. (Normally well under 2 watts... most below 5-150mw)

9 kHz - 490 kHz Carrier Current 47 CFR 15.219 Auth (250 mv max.)
490 kHz - 1.705 MHz Lossy Cable 47 CFR 15.221 Auth (1000 mv max.)
450 kHz - 30.00 MHz PLA Systems 47 CFR 15.207 Auth (30 mv@ft/30ft max.)

25 - 50 MHz "Bumper Beepers" ( 38 - 47 MHz very popular)
135 - 170 MHz "Bumper Beepers" (150 - 170 MHz very popular)
450 - 512 MHz "Bumper Beepers"
903 - 904 MHz "Bumper Beepers"
904 - 912 MHz "Bumper Beepers"
918 - 926 MHz "Bumper Beepers"
926 - 927 MHz "Bumper Beepers"

148 - 174 MHz Wireless Microphone
135 - 250 MHz Out-band Wireless Microphone
174 - 216 MHz In-band Wireless Microphone
350 - 440 MHz Common Video Frequency
380 - 930 MHz Wide Band Hoppers
806 - 824 MHz Wireless Microphone
851 - 869 MHz Wireless Microphone
905 - 930 MHz Popular Audio/Video Band

1.1 - 1.3 GHz Common Video Frequency
1.4 - 1.5 GHz Common Video Frequency
1.7 - 1.9 GHz Common Video Frequency (1.710 - 1.755 REAL Popular at 1/10 watt)
2.4 - 2.5 GHz Common Video Frequency (2.400 - 2.450 REAL Popular)
5.7 - 5.9 GHz Common Video Frequency (5.725 - 5.850 REAL Popular)
8.5 - 10.8 GHz Common Video Frequency

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"Tactical" Bugs

225 - 400 MHz "Throw away" bugs (10uw-300mw Beer can bugs)
290 - 330 MHz Micro-powered Bugs (5uw-10mw Cigarette Butt Bugs)
180 - 430 MHz Spread Spectrum Wafer Bugs (1.5mm thick * 10mm * 2.9mm)

30 - 500 MHz Tactical Repeaters (75mw-300mw)
285 - 400 MHz Tactical Repeaters (50mw-10watts)
100 - 152 MHz VHF Tactical Repeaters (300mw-25watts)
135 - 174 MHz VHF Tactical Repeaters (300mw-25watts)