posted 05-19-2001 03:09 AM            

Would you accuse me of meaning something else

And if said something to lead you astray

would you take it for the truth?

And if I told you the truth then on another day

How would you know?

[Edited 1 times, lastly by cydoniaquest on 05-19-2001]

posted 05-19-2001 05:51 AM            

However, David made a good suggestion about settling our dispute in court. I am willing should you decide you’re man enough but I doubt you would take this course of action. You have told me in the past that you have an attorney—does he or she have a name, telephone number or office or is this another fabrication of your overactive imagination. My attorney is Raymond Micklewright of Wolfe, Slatkin in Denver should you care to contact him. He attempted to serve Don papers but Don moved away from his temporary lodgings in Burbank before we could serve him.

However, should you not choose this option how about mediation? That said, I would gladly accept terms via a mediator should you be willing to settle our claim in this manner. Folks you have witnessed his writing here that he owes me at least $2800.00. Frankly, if I received this amount from Bradley I might have a heart attack and Don could go on his very merry way.

If this is not appealing to you, how about you donating $1000.00 to a charity of Thermit’s (Mark) choosing. I’ll even let you make out the check in your name sans me. Still have those Paine Webber accounts?

Seems to me that there are four very sound options for you to consider Don and you can be rid of me forever regarding the debt you owe me. Personally I like Option #1 as it will cost you no money just a little pride to admit to an overabundance of hubris.

posted 05-19-2001 10:39 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by David:
Then topgun comes on board and make a few posts, answers a few questions, then goes silent. But topgun remains in the background logged on more than off.
Enter chemorg. Makes a few posts answers a few questions, tells us he does traces, pings our puters, for "research", then goes silent.......
Enter skinman. Attacks, topgun comes out of the woodwork and backs up the attack.....
Is this the tactics of the U.S. airforce??
Is this the way they handle themselves in public.

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David-

I logged on last night for the FIRST time to read the latest posts after my post from Thursday night. I knew from the times on the post that it was going to be a long night on this thread, so I logged off and waited until this morning to digest it all. I'm not like NSASucks who hides in the woodwork without logging on, and probably keeps his computer on 24/7. Unlike him, I HAVE A JOB, and I can't spend my life surfing the web. Where's the substance to your claims, anyway, that I'm online all of the time? I check this site about once a day as a part of my daily routine.

On the subject of my job, I'm not here to be recruiter for the Air Force. I'm not here to be politically correct. Fighter pilots are notoriously neither, from the youngest Lieutenant to the oldest Colonel. So, if we piss you off, then so be it. I don't mind. I neither represent the Air Force nor do I pretend to do so. Go talk to a recruiter or a Public Affairs Officer if you want the glossed-over ass kissing.

I've been nothing but cordial to everyone here until I get attacked, like by TML and NSA. I felt that I've been of some value here by helping folks understand aviation, especially military and FAA rules. Every one of my stated facts comes directly out of the FARs, Airmen's Information Manual, and DOD regulations. Is there any disagreement with this?

David, I'm not sure if you think that I'm an agent or not. Your post goes almost that far, but not quite. Anyway, I've answered a few questions of yours as well on here. I hope that you've gained something from my answers.

The fact remains is that NSASucks owes someone a lot of money. Military, civilian, whatever, if I was skipped town on by a loser who owed me money then I would use extreme prejudice in hunting him down, both online and in person. NSASucks has, through all of his lies, admitted that he DOES owe somebody some money. And remember, all through this the only thing that brought Col. Phillips out of the woodwork is that he wants NSA to pay up. If NSA would do that, I'm certain that the Colonel will go about his business. Instead, NSA dodges the issue and brings out a lot of bogus "conspiracy theory" garbage and never directly answers the claims. Hmmm.....seems like he's done that a lot here on this board. NSA brings out the "smoking gun" e-mails that are nowhere near that, and sound a lot tamer than I would be if I were the Colonel. You can choose to continue to follow this creep and believe what he says, I don't care. He's a predator who is preying on you right now, though. Your fear is the fuel in his posts, and he'll tell you that Mickey Mouse was an MKID if it will get that response out of you. I'm not here to deny that chemtrails exist as NSA would like me to, but I have no problem exposing a fraud for who he is. Drop this guy like a hot potato. He's bringing you down, not up, and destroying the credibility of everyone here in the process.

I now know how much of a liar NSASucks is. He's struck a chord with a few of you by posting things that may have a thread of truth to them. But, I ask: if it's posted online, is it true? If it's published, is it true? NSA has already shown the answer to these questions to be NO.

NSA knew about his "prophecy" for being targeted because he has been targeted constantly for the past two or three years at least. Of course, TPTB aren't the ones who are after him, the bill collector is.

All of you who are on NSASucks' side, I suggest that you check out the Amazon.com book reviews. Then, get one of his books, and see which side you fall on. Will you agree with the 5-10 experienced reviewers (who all have registered with Amazon and have e-mail addresses) who slammed his book as being a piece of garbage? Or, will you agree with the 30 reviewers (who are all as good as anonymous with no registrations and no reviews on any other books) who all seem to think NSA's book is the best thing since sliced bread and all sound strikingly similar to one another?

When you get his book, please be sure to specify paperback or hardcover. Maybe it will help him pay his bills.

Maverick

posted 05-19-2001 11:35 AM            

read those book reviews THAT THE COLONEL POSTED. That way, you can see how they just get you anywhere they can.

Topliar, you just don't realize that people see through your bulls**t, just like they do the colonel's.

posted 05-19-2001 11:56 AM            

Pay up. It's that simple.

posted 05-19-2001 12:15 PM            

The colonel has been proved to

lie over and over again,

send threats,

stalk innocents,

bug homes,

send misleading statements to attorneys,

Lie about addressess,

post private addresses of woman and children and the elderly

send pornography to Trisha's mother

send pornography to Disney, using a dead address which he states here online as being real and of current as of the past year, which does not exist.

He has posted private phone numbers of UNLISTED people (gee, don't you love the airforce, CQ does!) to harm them.

Has posted false and misleading book reviews and has admitted as much on this thread and in writing to others.

He is an evil man. He has proved how evil he is. CQ is a twofaced, manipulating liar who makes up stuff as he goes. He has been caught lying on this thread. HE IS THE CONMAN. Don't be taken in by him. Topgliar is a toady for the agency and Mil intelligence.

posted 05-19-2001 12:23 PM            

And NSASucks is a liar, a fear-preying attention junkie, a fraud, and a deadbeat who can't live up to his financial obligations.

Pay up.

posted 05-19-2001 03:47 PM            

You actually bring up a good point regarding why I mentioned Bradley's whatever you'd like to call Trish. Truth is that he brought her into this dispute. According to her she never had contact with Bradley as she called him an over controlling man following her departure from Colorado. That said, she did say that she loved him very much despite his narrowmindedness and overcontrolling nature. She even said Bradley could be a very nice man as she had witnessed at a few of his book signings. But as Bradley has even stated this thread, she stands by him now even reading his posts here. Perhaps they were never apart and Bradley just couldn't afford to pay the rent so he skidaddled. If he had not ran away like a coward I could have helped him but he makes his own rules.

Secondly, simply stated I am human just like the rest of you. Bradley violated my house in Colorado and then attempts to rationalize that somehow I caused him to leave without paying rent. Ya I am mad at him for that. Any of you ever get upset? Just like Topgun, I am free to express my opinion despite being an officer in the USAF. I also do not speak for the USAF. Put me in uniform and on duty and that's another issue. Ya Bradley pisses me off for running like a coward and failing to live uo to his responsibility.

As far as some of the books reviews on Amazon, yes I wrote those that have my name on them and only my name. So what--his books suck. Give a man like Bradley a little knowledge and he's a menace to society. He doesn't abide by the rules set down by an orderly society. He makes them up as he goes along despite of who they impact. As for the other reviews you'd have to ask the people who authored them--they also think Bradley's book stink. Ask him if he has written any of the positive reviews himself. I'd bet my life on it!! In fact well before I ever came into contact they were posted there. I stand by the ones that have my name on them. My father was a Mason, my mother Eastern Star,...I think Bradley is attempting author false statements to dissuade others to his side.
Ask him what he knows about the Society of the Cincinnatus. Ever heard of it?

Eyesopen—I see you purport to be a Desert Storm veteran. What unit did you serve with? Frankly the AAA forced the attackers to fly at higher altitudes thus we were able to defeat the SAM threat electronically. Contrails have been a part of aviation since the beginning; we just did not know they existed until WWII. Ever see a film of B-17s flying in a defensive box formation—plenty of contrails there. Nuff said.

Any of you chemtrail believers know what the standard adiabatic lapse rate is? What effects it? What occurs at the tropopause?

posted 05-19-2001 11:12 PM            

Believe it or not I attempted about every route possible to get money owed to me by Bradley. I agreed to his wife's suggestion to have her pay $100/month until the debt was paid in full. She sent one check and then quit. I then hired Central Collection Agency in Denver to locate and serve Bradley papers. He replied with a letter that hios attorney would be in contact. If an attorney who exists has Bradley as a client, he never replied. I have tried the means to collect as you suggest but Bradley always stalls, moves, or changes his name. Ya I have his social security number and other vital information. Anytime someone applies for a lease a credit check is run by the realty agent to verify certain information. Suggest you check yours by the way.

Bottomline has been given to Bradley many times yet he continually spouts of verbal and profane abuse ay anyone who does not accept his divine right to screw others.
Ya I am pissed and rightfully so in my mind.
Bradley made his bed now he must sleep in it or change it. I have given him ample opportunity to change it by offering many ways out but his pride runs deep against his better judgement.

posted 05-19-2001 11:31 PM            

Skinman---I never mentioned Trish. That issue is not my business. I am interested in chemtrails and the people that are responsible for them.

Personally I'v had enough of this pissing contest. I know what I believe in...

I believe in chemtrails. I believe that NSA is being targeted by this harassment with great prejudice. :

posted 05-20-2001 01:55 AM            

WonderWmn, may God richly Bless and keep you covered by the blood of his Son.

David, you said a mouthful. It is extremely obvious who the deceivers are, and they are a foul bunch. God bless and guide you.

posted 05-20-2001 08:59 AM            

Thanks for the Lord's blessing but I am a bapatized Lutheran who is very comfortable with scripture and the Bible. My place with the Lord is secure.

My suggestion on the credit report was just that a suggestion. It is just a good idea to investigate what companies like TRW etc are given on your financial history. You reading into my suggestion anything more than that has to do with your thought processes.

Donsucks (pay up) elected to involve his family members not me. Frankly his father's approach is probably the most pragmatic one. Just disown him and have nothing to do with him. No Bradley (pay up) involved his wife and in-laws by having them cover for him. My realtor, Gail Carr 719-599-0900, talked with Bradley (pay up) when he returned to Ojai, California. Bradley said Trish would discuss on his behalf. She just happened to be residing at her mother's place in Alhambra, California, on Chapel Drive. They covered for him and her. Frankly I would be surprised to discover that Trish was posting her as well.

Bradley (pay up) threatens me with a lawsuit and I say go ahead because a countersuit is awaiting you.

posted 05-20-2001 12:39 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by WonderWmn93:
I don't know Nsasucks, or anything about him, .....

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That about sums it up, doesn't it?

The fact is, WW, is that you know none of us here. We're all just words on a computer monitor. In reality, you know nothing about the person typing the words you read. So, I may be Satan himself for all you know (I'm sure that now you'll think that I'm Satan.) In reality, I'm not, and I too have a wonderful relationship with my Creator.

Sprituality has nothing to do with what has happened to DONSucks (PAY UP.) He's gone now, so I'll try to keep this to a minimum since I know that he can't respond. The fact is, he has ripped somebody off and left town on them. The person that he owed the money to was rightfully angered and has tried constantly for the past three years to get anything out of DONSucks (PAY UP.) This person has tried on every level JUST TO GET THE MONEY THAT HE IS OWED. Is this clear? Let me make it more clear. DONSucks (PAY UP,) in layman's terms, has stolen $5000.00 from somebody. That's grand theft in my state, a felony.

Now, let's say that you've exhausted all of your options, except that you've heard that this worm is preaching on the street corner every day at 4 p.m.. What would you do? Personally, I'd make up a sign of my own and bring a megaphone to disrupt this guy. I'd make his life a living hell until he acknowledged his debts and paid up. This forum is the street corner, and these posts are the best weapon that the Colonel has to squeeze water out of the rock.

I may not agree personally with the personal information being released, but I also don't know either of these folks personally, either. They have already gone several rounds in a boxing ring somewhere else before bringing the fight here. Who knows what kind of cheap shots came out then (from either side?) You don't know, and I don't know.

I cannot agree more that this post should not have been in the Chemtrails section. A new poster (Skinman) probably was not aware of the Freeform and Other Trails section before coming here. Hopefully, this will be the end of this thread and it will not disrupt the intent of this board any longer.

Maverick

posted 05-20-2001 01:06 PM            

It is reasonable and moral to attempt to counter the lies being perpetrated against you and it is reasonble and moral to want to collect money rightfully owed to you. Calling someone a snake and a piece O' doody in the same sentence she says God bless, is not moral....or even rational.

posted 05-21-2001 01:00 AM            

There are so many things to explore beyond the sux saga!

posted 05-25-2001 02:07 AM            

after returning to this board and finding that many decent, credible people have chosen to leave...

after discovering the harrassment reports that posters at carnicom are reporting...

after discovering that the FBI is being granted secret court orders to indentify users of internet forums...

After all this, I finally got a chance to hear NSA sing his song.

My impressions: The acoustic guitar part is perfect. The vocals and lyrics could be touched up a little, but the whole Neil Young thing really works well with the subject matter.

NSA has done what no-one else has, thus-far.
Recorded and released a song that raises CT awareness.

Say what you will. Think what you like. But this music deserves to be heard.

This entire situation could have been handled a whole hell of a lot better by everyone involved, IMO.

Allowing someone like Dan Phillips to use this forum as some sort of collection agency is ridiculous. Allowing him to divulge NSA's personal identity and drag his family into this is reprehensible as well.

While I don't condone dishonesty on anyone's part, I can understand why one might be tempted to lie about his identity if he thought the person he was talking to would turn around and give this information to an AF intelligence ofc.

I don't honestly know how I would react to this kind of orchestrated personal attack.

I don't think I would threaten to sue anyone, simply because I'm not terribly fond of lawyers.

Well, that's prety much all I have left to say. If it's truth that you want, I suggest you download the mp3.

Truth, I have found, has a ring all it's own.