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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-22-2001 06:23 PM
   
For your information...
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Chem Trail Tracking USAResearch Donation Fund This is a detailed accounting of donations received to aquire in situ samples and analysis of chemtrails for evidence. It has been estimated that it will cost between $20,000 and $30,000 to accomplish this. Clifford Carnicom, Kim Weber, Dona and myself don't have it. After 3 long, very hard, very frustrating years of this investigation ENOUGH is ENOUGH. An account is being set up to recieve any and all donations of any size toward this effort.
If, after a period of 6 months from today (3/7/01) we have not aquired the necessary funding, then each and every penny will be returned to the sender. Every penny received will be reported here. If you don't want your named listed, that's fine it will go up as an anonymous donation, however records will be maintained to facilitate return if necessary. As far as our intent, it's right out there all the time. If you don't trust us, then don't send it, it's as simple as that. When the money has accumulated, we will determine the best resources to use to accomplish the goal. Donations may be sent to:
Lorie Kramer
PO Box 31073
Houston, TX 77231-1073
http://users.ev1.net/~seektress/funds.htm 
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KnewEyes
watcher
under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-24-2001 11:11 AM
This is a great idea.
If everyone just gave a little, think of how fast it could add up. Look, its up to $775 already! Sure is for a worthy cause. I just wanted to bump this one up to the forefront.
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-31-2001 03:55 PM
Now, I know we all would love to get some samples of the Chemtrails, but I'm curious as to what members of the Chemtrail community think about this plan. I know Lorie and feel that she is trustworthy, so that isn't an issue for me. But what do y'all think about this? Is this even a feasable plan? Should raising awareness via the Internet and real-world activism be a priority over physical sample research?
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RidesTheWind
visionary
The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 05-31-2001 04:45 PM
While I would really like to know for certain what are in these chemtrail samples there is a large part of me that says for what? Even if we do know whats in them its not going to change anything, is it? We can't stop what is going on up there.This plan is way bigger than anything we ever dreamed possible.I'd rather see everyone take that $$ and go off the grid and become prepared to survive when the S**T hits the fan as it is going to do in the very near future.We musn't waste our energies trying to beat them at there own game. Thats what they are hoping we will do. I seriously feel
at this point that chemtrails could very well be nothing more than yet another distraction away from the larger plan they are laying in place. Watch the skies and forget everything else. I don't know,I just can't see where testing will get us any closer to ending chemtrails than we are now.
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cydoniaquest
nobody
nowhere
803 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 05-31-2001 05:20 PM
I think the off-the-cuff answer is that a chemtrail sample is necessary to offer definitive proof. If they come up with nothing but ice crystals and normal jet exhaust in their sample, then we will know the whole thing has been a hoax as the skeptics and debunkers have been saying all along.If however they do come up with a definitive example (with neutral and respected third party witness and a respected lab analysis, to prove there was no opportunity for tampering) and they DO come up with something...then the skeptics will have to eat it...I mean not the sample that is...their words. In either case, now that I think about it, I do agree this money is probably being wasted however because whatever the outcome, both the skeptics and chemtrail proponents will rationalize the results in their favor. The media still won't cover it.....and the outcome will remain unchanged.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by cydoniaquest on 05-31-2001]
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Swedishoo
Vigilante
North Pinellas County, Florida
280 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 05-31-2001 06:33 PM
I do believe we need samples of fresh chemspray... and there is no issue on trust. Lorie, Kim and Cliff are all sincere and hard-working in this issue. However, my question is, is there a itemized budget with plans? And, ...Between 20 and 30 grand? I don't feel it should cost anything near this and the difference of 10,000 dollars is alot of change. So that I am not taken the wrong way, let me give you an example of what I am speaking of: When the neighborhood's entrance was looking really shabby, a group of us (no homeowners committee) made a list needed to make the enterance look nice. 16 railroad tyes @ 20 each from so-and-so landscape, 2 drougt resistant trees @ 50 each from so-and-so nursery, ...and so on and so forth...until the list was a complete list with prices and who what when where ...with a grand total that we needed to collect. The money was collected quickly and the entrance completed. This is what we need with the collection of any and all Chemtrail samples. Christy
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 05-31-2001 06:36 PM
I think sample analysis is a must, unfortunately I've been so broke I haven't been able to contribute to Lorie's fund. Wether the analysis makes a difference or not to the unenlightened, at least we would know, and know we're not a bunch of hysterical kooks  The Piper will be paid!
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Chem11
megasprayer news
The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 06-01-2001 12:26 AM
The real issue here is FAA approval, which I believe would be required for this expedition. Does anyone have further information on this potential roadblock?There may be a way around it?
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