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ABC123
Senior Member of the "Awake"

Central-Coastal CA, USA 46 posts, May 2001
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posted 06-06-2001 03:42 PM
..My mind seams to be pretty-much occupied with the subject of chemtrails nowdays...I cannot ignore the problem, nor its intensity or frequency. It is a fact.I have done a lot of reading about the "contents" of chemspray. Somewhere I am sure that I read that there were certain molds/fungus that were analyzed. Also, it is curious that some of the "dandelion fluff-like stuff" that people report seams to disappear when touched...just like a mold/fungus would do. When you open that outdated and forgotten jar in the back of your fridge, what do you see? --You see that same fluffy stuff. What would be the reason for "them" spraying us with mold/fungus? Well, as a medical person myself I have had experiences caring for people that have been exposed to "valley fever" and other dust-born fungi. These fungus/molds cause respiratory irritation and a generalized reaction and weakeninjg of our immune systems. These syptoms have been reported after spraying... Also, lets reflect for a second on the earliest predecessor of antibiotics, penicillin. Penicillin was discovered by accident and is derived from mold. We, generally, as a species are growing more resistant to the beneficial effects (i.e. antibiotic) of penicillin. We know that constant use of antibiotics causes resistant strains of bacteria. Neverless, the "public" are becoming more aware of the need to curtail antibiotic use. Let me play the devil's advocate for a second and say that "they" (as a proposed theory), for some unknown reason, want to decrease or depopulate us; however, "we" are starting to become more health conscious on the whole... How would "they" do us in? -------Well, by simultaneously weakening our defenses and by creating (as a result of constant exposure to penicillin-like molds/fungus) resistant forms of bacteria. Again, I am only "brain storming." --Just a theory mind you  
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fuzzy naval
New Member
6 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 06-06-2001 03:56 PM
Wow--I have been a lurker for a few weeks now and am venturing out to post.This chemtrails thingie has me terrified for many reasons!! dandelion fluff stuff that can do who knows what?? Scary indeedy!! I can hardly sleep nights now as it is!! Now this!! Yeooww!! ABC--what is it you do exactly?? What you tell me scares me. You sure chemtrails is fact?? I rarely go outside now and may consider replacing my heating and air conditioning system with one that has a built in filtering systems. Do you think maybe a good humidifier would help my health? Thanks for sharing. Fuzzy 
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ABC123
Senior Member of the "Awake"

Central-Coastal CA, USA 46 posts, May 2001
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posted 06-06-2001 04:05 PM
Hiya fuzzy!Well, I'm a bit skiddish to say what I do...Suffice it to say that I have one heck of a lot of medical training.  As far as you being afraid to venture out and about changing your filtering system...well, I have been admittedly scared too about this issue. It's not like we can actually escape it. We MUST breathe the air. You could stay inside, but you'd literally have to be in a "bubble." Also, who knows what effects that this "stuff" has on the food we eat, etc. We already know that "they" are genetically engineering a lot of the foods that we eat. In the end we have to eat and we have to breathe...But, we can educate others about a much-too-ignored subject. Maybe, when enough people are actually aware of this issue then we, as a populace, can take action. I also think that people, in general, get oblivious to what they see. Those "straight lines of clouds" happen pretty much every day, so I think that a lot of people out there just come to think of them as "normal." 1. Clouds do not form in straight lines. 2. Normal contrails form in the higher atmosphere due to ice crystalls, etc. These "chemtrails" are much, much lower in the atmosphere where ice crystals should not form or else should not "linger" as these chemtrails do (sometimes for hours!). ****Just out of curiosity, is there anyone out there who is taking an antifungal drug of any sort who has noticed any unusual symptoms or improvement of symptoms? 
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amber
UK ENVOY

uk 445 posts, May 2001
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posted 06-06-2001 04:44 PM
Welcome Fuzzy Naval and ABC George Orwell would be proud 
[Edited 1 times, lastly by amber on 06-06-2001] 
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ABC123
Senior Member of the "Awake"

Central-Coastal CA, USA 46 posts, May 2001
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posted 06-06-2001 04:49 PM
Amber...what does your reply (above mean? This is not "science fiction" that we are talking about here.... it's fact. There are just many theories.
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David
Chemtrail Information Agent
1290 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 06-06-2001 04:56 PM
ABC123 A friends 8year old daughter became sick with fits of coughing and wheezing plus other problems. She was seen and diagnosed with mold spores growing in her lungs.The Drs. said they were pretty much stymied as to how she developed this. The only thing they could come up with is that she may have gotten it from hay. With rest and medication, she has gotten better but still not 100% yet, and it has been several months. Keeping in mind that this area of the state is sprayed very hard and often. 
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amber
UK ENVOY

uk 445 posts, May 2001
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posted 06-06-2001 05:03 PM
Sorry ABC, you have misunderstood me...In George Orwell's 1984, the character Winston Smith begins a diary, to write down his thoughts as warnings for the future, even though writing and even owning paper is illegal - punishable by death....What I meant was people fear posting in case 'they' track them down and do ...whatever...you and fuzzy naval have overcome that understandable fear and POSTED REGARDLESS Orwell and Smith would be proud. We have CTs here too...I'm as angry as you are 
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Thermit
Tech

Houston, TX 2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 06-06-2001 05:06 PM
Fuzzy Naval --what is it you do exactly?? What are your thoughts on Chemtrails, Mr. Naval? 
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penumbra
quarky

North Carolina 668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 06-06-2001 05:36 PM
ABC123- I think we really need more medical people and or scientists in our midst! I look forward to hearing your perspective on things. 
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Aura
Senior Member
Southern Indiana 95 posts, May 2001
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posted 06-06-2001 06:06 PM
Fuzzy Naval - I haven't replaced my furnace and a/c yet, but I did invest in the BEST ($$$) furnace filters I could buy. They were Ultra Allergans with charcoal. And I bought several room sized air purifiers. I know that I can't stay indoors at all times, but it is nice to know that when I am in my home I can breathe. I know that they are working because on heavy spray days when I come back inside I almost get dizzy, like someone is giving me pure oxygen. 
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eyesopen
This Space For Rent
Ventura CA 627 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 06-06-2001 06:16 PM
Fuzzy N, Get a good HEPA filter. I did and I noticed a big difference. You should see the filters I change from it. They collect very small particles including chem stuff. My HEPA is a decent one that can filter the air of a large room or multiple rooms 6 times an hour. A wise investment and I have lost some symptoms because of it.
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mark sky
bin Rydin

SW coast of Oregon 1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 06-06-2001 08:31 PM

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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 06-06-2001 08:55 PM
A little Cayenne Pepper ought to raise that body temperature!ABC ~ good post, gives one cause to pause and think. Over and over I keep hearing the phrase "weakening our immune system". Why and for who's benefit??? We must try and stay one step ahead by keeping our immune systems strong. Two words: garlic, Cayenne. 
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Swedishoo
Vigilante

North Pinellas County, Florida 280 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 06-06-2001 09:05 PM
Welcome Fuzzy, glad you jumped in. The water's fine. Just watch out for the warm spots.ABC, I am resistant to penicillin...have been since a child. I can take alternatives like zithomax etc...I have been sick for the past 2 1/2 weeks and it has settled in my ears, water in my middle ear. I have taken 6 types of meds and 2 antibiotics, still no relief. Here's the thing, I know 6 other people with this same problem right now, and no one getting better. Also, I also know of other people who feel sick and get this...are baffled by tempatures of 97 degrees and lower. I think you have seen, know yourself, or have suspicions of what people are suffering of. My Doc has said to me many times now, that "something is in the air or water". Lower tempatures...a sign of fungus, no results with antibiotics and can actually become worse, are also traits of fungus. If I had to bet money, I'd say you believe we are being exposed to yeast. Christy 
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fuzzy naval
New Member
6 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 06-07-2001 11:55 AM
Mr ThermitI work in the product and service industry exactly--very tedious work and boring at times. Trails in the sky are fact just look up. ABC is right to say fact. I suffer from severe headaches and dizziness on occasion. Visited my doctor who prescribed an antibotic but it didn't work. Had my heating system checked because it was old and the technician said I should have it replaced real soon. ABC caught my attention with her post. It scares me!! I am back to lurking now but thanks most of you for making me feel a part of this board. I am really shy and do not like confrontation. It scares me to death. Fuzzy Naval 
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Thermit
Tech

Houston, TX 2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 06-07-2001 12:15 PM
Well, good luck with your headaches and dizzyness. Still curious on your thoughts on Chemtrails, not just 'trails. Take care...
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ABC123
Senior Member of the "Awake"

Central-Coastal CA, USA 46 posts, May 2001
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posted 06-07-2001 02:46 PM
Dear Fuzzy Naval;You are doing a great job of coming forward to express your fears, concerns and thoughts. I am very new to "the board" here myself...I think it's important to "brainstorm" and discuss things. These lines in the sky are fact...today, as a matter of fact, I am looking out to a clear, blue sky and a wonderful "beachgoing" day...It would be perfect if not for the approximately 5-6 perfectly linear "clouds" that corrupt that baby blue sky. The fact is that the "lines" are fact..Furthermore, we know that these clouds are not caused naturally and take quite sometime to dissipate. We deserve answers from "them" as to what they are spraying and why...."They" say that it's for our own good...If it's so good for us then there should be no harm in letting us know what's its for. Keep up your replys fuzzy. Expressing our feelings can help us cope with indisputable facts/evidence. 29/f/California 
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KnewEyes
watcher

under those cloud-like things 665 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 06-07-2001 04:41 PM
David.. Tell your friend to get some Grapefruit Seed Extract,, (see my post in the health forum) and have her daughter start taking some of that in orange juice, but more importantly,,, to breathe it into her lungs by adding it to some boiling steaming water, or in a nebulizer. That'll kill it.
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David
Chemtrail Information Agent
1290 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 06-07-2001 09:07 PM
Hello KnewEyes and thank you for the advice, I will pass it along. Iam sure they will try it, regular meds do nothing much. 
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TomE
New Member
Portland, OR USA 11 posts, May 2001
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posted 06-08-2001 12:19 AM
Here in Portland I have some co-workers who have had resp. illness, and lingering colds. I haven't heard or seen too much on the headaches and dizziness. I personally get swollen glands in the throat area which makes it hard to swallow. This happens every time they spray. By the way, we here in Portland got clobbered here today. I again had tears in my eyes as I watched the sky go gray and the halo form around the sun. This continued madness is hard on the emotional system. For those of you who don't know I have a one year old baby girl, Sunny Elasia, two of the happiest words I have ever heard. I am a 40 year old drug addictions conselor, and this will be my only child. Will she ever know the true blue sky of a brisk winter day? Will she be able to enjoy all the great outdoor places that I enjoyed as a child with out fear of sickness? It saddens me deeply that our Government could be so callous as to destroy what God has given to us. Their power has grown to a point where they at least feel untouchable. What can we do, and why don't people listen? I ask strangers on the street, Do you remember when the skies were really blue? It wasn't that F---ing long ago. Where are your memories? I hear some say that there have always been trails like the ones that are in our skies today. When? I believe we are in for some big trouble in the near future, and I for one am sad, not for me, but for the children. For the love of life itself this has got to end, because no matter what this all means, (and I've read just about every opinion I want to read), this can't be good. I have personally e-mailed every Senator in the US. I have written a letter entitled, "WE need A hero" and I have begged every one of these officials to be the one to stand. I strongly believe if we can convince one of the knowing to come out of the closet and blow this thing wide open the American Public would be eternally grateful to this brave person. I am personally working on McCain myself. I am trying to get him, (if he ever sees my e-mails), to see the possibilities of what it would mean for one man to come out on this in a convincing way and demean the powers that be. OKAY!!! I know it's not just the government, but the big money also. And I know this will probably not do any good and I may be wasting all my free time worrying and trying to figure out an answer to all this, but what the f--k, I love my daughter.
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eyesopen
This Space For Rent
Ventura CA 627 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 06-08-2001 12:31 AM
TomE, you are not wasting your time my friend. You are doing good things as listed in your post. I had to reply because you said "I love my daughter". I feel the same way! What will our children inherit here? Protecting one's children is a strong motivation. I applaud your letter writing campaign. I have done this myself - with no results yet, but I am hopeful everytime I hear someone else is doing it too. So please don't think you are "wasting your time"! 
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TomE
New Member
Portland, OR USA 11 posts, May 2001
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posted 06-08-2001 12:43 AM
As I said I am from Portland and it is 10:25 pm here. I just went outside and decided to look at the air from behind the street lamp post. At night I can see the particles of spray raining down after a heavy spray day. Today was one of the big ones. I looked up at the lighted area with out looking directly into the light and what I am seeing this very evening,(if you are in the Portland area GO CHECK THIS OUT NOW), IS SCARING THE HELL OUT OF ME. It looks like it is snowing, really this is huge. I have never seen it like this. The wind is blowing pleasantly in from the west and it looks like fibers and those dandelion things that were being discussed earlier. This is not mineral looking at all. Jesus I wish I had a hundred non believers here right now, this is intense, and scary.
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David
Chemtrail Information Agent
1290 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 06-08-2001 12:50 AM
Be careful TomE no telling what that crap is. Can you catch some in a clean container, a jar perhaps. Maybe Thermit has some place to send a sample. How about that Thermit?? I live n. calif and there seems to be some new twist to the chem trail saga. Not quite the same the last week.P.S. How about calling all of your local radio and tv stations.
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Thermit
Tech

Houston, TX 2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 06-08-2001 01:05 PM
I'd contact Carnicom about samples. He can at least put it under a microscope and post some pictures under magnification. 
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