posted 06-07-2001 03:20 PM            

Well (deep breath), here goes my latest little way-off theory for the day :

1. Most of us know of the HAARP project. I in know way claim to be an expert on that subject, but from the information I have gleened I will briefly relate as follows: HAARP is a project designed to utilize the uppermost layer of our atmosphere (I believe the ionosphere) to relay instantaneous messages/data across the planet. "They" do this by sending INCREDIBLY large amounts of electricity into that section of our atmosphere. The ionosphere then acts like HUGE radio transmitter and the messages/data is received almost instantaneously across the world.
I have my own personal thoughts on HAARP. Apart from the chemtrail issue, I believe that wildlife in general and most likely mankind are being effected by these electrical currents in our atmosphere. We all know that whales, dolphins, bats, birds etc. all rely upon extrasensory methods of locating their destination. I am sure that HAARP's use of electricity in our atmosphere is throwing-off the natural Earthly magnetic balance that these animnals (and possibly us) need to circumnavigate and possibly survive. It is possible that humans are being effected by this also, but is ways that we pass off as "sikness", "dizzyness" or generally feeling "not right." The Earth's magnetic field is very fragile. Perhaps the mass electrical imput into our atmosphere by HAARP is causing a replorization effect upon that field, similar to the effect a giant electromagnet would create. There also have been numerous studies conducted on people who live near power lines/magnetic & electrical zones that suggest a very high incidence of cancer. Well, if HAARP is indeed causing a Earth-wide electromagnetic effect, then we are ALL seriously at risk of cancer and other problems.
2. This brings me to my second point. Most of us are aware of the large polar ozone "hole" in our atmosphere. Many are not aware, however, that there is now actually more than one hole out there. If you were using the atmosphere as a means to transmit data, wouldn't you want your "transmitter" to be in top-notch shape? Well, right now the ionosphere and other parts of our atmosphere have HOLES in them! Visualize for a moment that the atmosphere is a "blanket" around the Earth. Well, that "blanket" would have several moth-eaten holes in it. Effectively, these "holes" are like trying to communicate through "swiss cheese." I am sure that data/communications are lost and I am sure that "they" are not happy about that. Needless to say, "they" are not willing to put an end to the pollution, etc. that is causing the "holes." How could they "patch" the holes? Well, as many of you are aware, the constituents of chemspray have been analyzed and often found to have polymer-like threads. These threads are often found draped lightly across cars in tangled in trees. You can see them if you use the "coronal" technique of looking into the sun. It seems plausible to me that "they" have to somehow "patch" these "holes" in the atmosphere in order for their little project to work. I propose that this MAY be a reason for continued, frequent and nationwide spraying. Of course, "they" would need to spray over-and-over again because the wind will inevetably carry their little "patches" away and disperse the contents to the ground...

Well, enough said...Told you I had some way-out thoughts ...curious to hear your persepectives on this theory.

posted 06-08-2001 03:28 AM            

So, if they are burning holes in the ionosphere, maybe they are trying to patch it up. So many things it can or could be.

posted 06-08-2001 10:51 AM            

I also believe that sooner or later there will be a punishment for people who consciously choose to hurt our world and the people in it.

May these people receive second and third helpings of that punishment.

posted 06-08-2001 11:45 AM            

I just wanted to take a second to thank you for listening to my arguements and taking that first step by beginning to post your thoughts and feelings on this issue.

I'm no fundimentalist christian, but I do feel that we will all be judged according to our actions, eventually. I also have a strong feeling that the brave souls willing to speak out against this travesty, will be rewarded in some fashion.

Sedona made an interesting observation on the CC board the other day;

We are not afraid.

I was mulling over this apparent contradiction at the time she posted, and I believe that the only way for people who are CT aware to overcome this fear is by facing it.

I should be scared. The harrassment and cyber-surveillance and attacks are quite real. This is the US military we are squaring off with.

I should be scared. I should be terrified, really.

posted 06-11-2001 02:02 PM            

ABC, wow, what an idea you have. I do think HAARP ties in with chemtrails, and this long-term spraying project is here to stay. This is truly frightening and frustrating when no answers are forth coming and we are left speculating.

RTW, you're leaving us?! And I so enjoy your posts and enthusiasm. Say it ain't so. Please

desert flower, I didn't get a chance to read your posts before they were edited. Too bad, I am interested in your thoughts, and I like your moxie! Excellent chemtrail letter you've composed

Speaking of rods, check out these amazing stills from mbx99, and on this page there's a link to animated rods. Truly staggering to see these "life forms" move in a leap-frog manner. There really are more things of this earth than we could EVER imagine!
http://liquid2K.com/mbx99/stills.html

If the sun is just right I can see particles dancing and darting around in the atmosphere, with a directional motive only the particles seem to know. The only thing my little black cat with the crooked tail named Zulu (Warrior) chases is my pet crow named Russell, all in good fun though

posted 06-11-2001 06:31 PM            

You now why the spraybastards are so blatant in our face. Because they know they can do it and not get caught. You know why they can't get caught- because they got this shit buried so deep in so many "legit" and "super-top-secret" programs that there is no way it can ever get tied together.

We have got to get ORGANIZED if we ever want to find out the truth. We won't be able to find all of it, but if we can get enough "circumstantial" evidence we can put up a fight.

We have to sort out what we KNOW, what we think we know, and what we need to know! Then we have to start putting it all together in some sort of intelligent order. We have to beat them at their own game!

The key is to have it be secret. We have to break up in teams, some chasing after chemical evidence, some chasing HAARP evidence, some chasing aircraft, etc,etc...
Then the real clincher is WE HAVE TO KEEP IT FROM EACH OTHER!!!

We have to have a Head Man, Top Secret Dog, someone we can TRUST...to recieve and sort and delegate to the teams....OK maybe a team to do this, but do you get the idea.

We just keep chasing the same leads, the same ideas, I doubt that TML is the only one laughing at us! I bet they won't be laughing when they read this...remember "Together we stand, divided we fall"

How many hours a day are you all putting in to this cat and mouse game? I know I am putting in too many, and I get more confused each day? You know I started all of this on a search for SPIRITUALITY! Hell I am losing what little I had not getting more! (Maybe another unsuspected side effect)

I say let's ORGANIZE and catch the damn mouse already!

posted 06-11-2001 07:35 PM            

Aren't we all tired of this BS aura.

"We are getting nowhere this way".

What way? By coming together on this forum and voicing our thoughts?

"We are like dogs chasing our tails and sniffing at bushes!"

I'm a cat person myself

"You now why the spraybastards are so blatant in our face. Because they know they can do it and not get caught."

Well if you can tell us where the spray planes are landing and taking off from...

"You know why they can't get caught- because they got this shit buried so deep in so many "legit" and "super-top-secret" programs that there is no way it can ever get tied together."

Couldn't agree more aura.

"We have got to get ORGANIZED if we ever want to find out the truth. We won't be able to find all of it, but if we can get enough "circumstantial" evidence we can put up a fight."

Do you think the sheeple will listen to circumstantial evidence when they won't even look at the sky and see it for what it is???

"We have to sort out what we KNOW, what we think we know, and what we need to know!"

We know lies when we hear them, we know truth when it presents itself, I think I know myself but that's about all I really know. What I need to know, well that's on a need-to-know-basis.

"Then we have to start putting it all together in some sort of intelligent order."

I believe that's what us chemmies have been doing for past one to three years.

"We have to beat them at their own game!"

How to beat the master liars and manipulators of the world at their own game? This I REALLY need to know.

"The key is to have it be secret. We have to break up in teams, some chasing after chemical evidence, some chasing HAARP evidence, some chasing aircraft, etc,etc...
Then the real clincher is WE HAVE TO KEEP IT FROM EACH OTHER!!!"

"WE HAVE TO KEEP IT FROM EACH OTHER!!!" No offense aura but this cracked me up. Are we all so mistrustful that we would keep information from one another? Or is this for the benefit of TPTB/S: they won't know what we're up to if we don't even know what we're up to?

"We have to have a Head Man, Top Secret Dog, someone we can TRUST...to recieve and sort and delegate to the teams....OK maybe a team to do this, but do you get the idea."

Yes, someone we could trust. Sort of like an appointed senate of one. Truth of the matter is my policy is to "Trust No One." Not even Satan who is Top Secret Dog in my books.

"We just keep chasing the same leads, the same ideas, I doubt that TML is the only one laughing at us!"

I could give a rat's ass who laughs at us/me, especially TML, who is nothing more than a lying bible thumping jerk. The fool who proposed the world was indeed round was laughed at. Some of us do more than just chase leads aura. We spread the word far and wide. When the shit hits the fun, we'll see who will be laughing.

"I bet they won't be laughing when they read this..."

I bet they will be laughing. That's all they know how to do.

remember "Together we stand, divided we fall"

How can we stand together if we withhold evidence from ourselves as you propose?

"How many hours a day are you all putting in to this cat and mouse game?"

I prefer to call it Truth Seeking, and the answer to your question is as many hours as it takes. And then some.

"I know I am putting in too many, and I get more confused each day? You know I started all of this on a search for SPIRITUALITY!"

I started all of this myself because someone is spraying the f@#* out of my once-blue-sky.

"Hell I am losing what little I had not getting more! (Maybe another unsuspected side effect)"

What I'll never lose is hope.

"I say let's ORGANIZE and catch the damn mouse already!"

Why catch the mouse when poison is just as effective?

"End of Rant - Gee I feel so much better"

posted 06-11-2001 08:30 PM            

There is just so much out there it gets ad-nauseum! But I won't give up hope either and I truly think that somehow, somewhere in the crazy mess I will get the spirituality I seek!

Any hoo the "rant" was probably more meant for myself - I need to get organized about this.

posted 06-11-2001 08:46 PM            

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"Part I: Approaches. Chapters 1-5 present a diverse selection of perspectives and research strategies for approaching complex topics on the effects of global change on human health. Examples illustrate successful applications of various methods, thereby assisting the new researcher in selecting appropriate approaches to research problems."

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Electronic References and Information Literacy

posted 06-16-2001 11:45 AM            

...Some snips follow link, but follow link inside and there is MUCH MORE!...

There are a number of "links" on that thread but this is the link to which Aura is referring:

Ecosystem Change and Public Health
Published May 2001
http://www.press.jhu.edu/press/books/titles/sampler/aron4.htm

I just purchased the paperback version of this book. It is worth ten times the price of purchase for a comprehensive understanding of what is currently occurring with Earth's systems and why what is being done to [in my opinion] hold off a collapse of the global economy is only making things much worse.

If what we are seeing is, in fact, the work of Reptilians, Satan, etc. I will be the FIRST to concede the matter - what in hell do I care. However, it is entirely possible for me to face the fact that humans themselves are *quite capable* of having allowed the current situation to develop and proceed out of control.

Sorry to show up without my "I'm Cool and You're Not" T-shirt - ha ha! - I gave that one away in a past life. Along with my "papers."

Please do at least consider the above-referenced material as a part of your studies, though. It was put together by some very caring people.

posted 06-16-2001 01:31 PM            

Thanks for clearing that up. I have proven to myself that I am a complete dolt at this stuff!

I agree that "self-inflicted" misery is a viable thread and have chosen to research that possibility without interference of other notions. I have also ordered the paperback version and will begin my quest when it arrives. I thank you for bringing it to the attention of all seekers.

BTW - it is obvious that the TPTB are in "PANIC" mode. When they are seriously considering moving the Mother out of orbit they are reaching for any straw, FAST.

posted 06-16-2001 08:37 PM            

Whatever one's orientation to Research Institutions and The Matters With Which They Are Often [Unfortunately] Associated, there is occasionally produced from them a piece of work that is of actual benefit to the human community, by people who are themselves members of that community and care very deeply about its future.

There are "Earth-Moving" Yahoos everywhere, on every level, in this world, all looking for their 15 minute$ of fame and glory. One has to work around them quite often these days to get to an understanding of what is actually going on.

As for "self-inflicted" misery - I don't think there's a lot of use for Guilt going forward here. Simply taking responsibility for beginning to understand a situation in order to contribute to its reversal should suffice nicely. As Ed Harris said in "Apollo 13" when it became clear that the mission was in serious trouble, "Let's work the problem, people. Let's not make things worse by guessing."

Clearly, the upper-atmospheric aerosol operations ongoing are exacerbating the problems outlined and examined in the book you are about to read. But until an open, truthful public announcement regarding those operations is forthcoming, there is actual work to be done in the direction of putting the brakes on at least some of the human suffering involved in this unprecedented mess we are in.

I hope you'll find this reference useful.