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Topic:   Black line IN FRONT OF PLANE

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psylenced
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22 posts, Apr 2001

posted 06-13-2001 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for psylenced     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/skymyst.htm

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Lulu
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2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 06-13-2001 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is odd Psylenced. I have heard of several people who have also witnessed this phenomenon.

I witnessed something similar last year: there was a dark shadow band directly above a chemtrail, and another one running directly below the chemtrail. The chemtrail itself had the on/off pattern, but both dark shadow bands were continuous lines. In a short time these dark bands dissipated, leaving the white chemtrail to do it's thing.

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jackcipher
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47 posts, Jun 2001

posted 06-13-2001 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jackcipher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by psylenced:
http://www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/skymyst.htm

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jackcipher
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47 posts, Jun 2001

posted 06-13-2001 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jackcipher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
first all this is wonderful. now iv seen the spheres 2 times in past 3 months,a vary odd site indeed.cant seem to get mind off them or our sky.going back outside now,return shortly.

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Thermit
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Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 06-13-2001 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi jackcipher, thanks for joining.

See any familiar orbs here...?...
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/orbs.shtml


As for the black line, could it be an inverted (shadow) crepuscular ray?

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001

posted 06-13-2001 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have observed the black line preceding a plane on several occasions. The first time I saw it I had been watching a plane leaving a trail for a good 10 minutes while driving. I was meeting my parents, and when I got out of the car and looked up I saw that it was actually two planes flying belly to belly, at that moment I saw the "shadow" out in front of the planes. ( they were heading away from me.) I pointed it out to my parents. My dad just shook his head, but my mother thought it was very odd. About a week later I was walking with a neighbor when I saw it again and pointed it out to her. She agreed with me that there is no way that a shadow could be cast in that direction. I spent hours searching the us patent office for some type of match, and the closest thing that I came across was something about nose-cone guided lasers. I assume at this point that it is some type of navigational aid.
I have also seen the "chemtrail shadows", which I believe to be separate phenomena.
Neither one seems to match your picture Thermit, although I have recently noticed that there are an awful lot of rays coming from around the clouds during our mostly clear/partly cloudy days.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by penumbra on 06-13-2001]

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jackcipher
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47 posts, Jun 2001

posted 06-13-2001 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jackcipher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you,i have seen the orbs but not then.i really dont think they were shadows iv had the privledge of viewing them twice and with such a good view i really doubt shadows are the answer.the first time i stopped and got out of my car whiped my eyes looked back up and guess what?still there w/plane flying perfectly inside the line.vary strange indeed,here frome others soon i hope,keep lookinup.

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RidesTheWind
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The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 06-13-2001 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those were the orbs...! Can't miss 'em once you see them. Just look closely into the contrail where white/roundish cloud puffs linger! We've had several days of them as well as a much different,thicker whiteout.It almost makes you think of zinc perhaps.That heavy and dense.It looks much like a major forest fire is raging close by. We also have the black lines...Aren't we lucky to get the whole enchilada!

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ABC123
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Central-Coastal CA, USA
46 posts, May 2001

posted 06-13-2001 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ABC123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it possible that the black lines that are seen around and sometimes above and below the chems are "activating" agents? Maybe, whatever they are spraying is inert until activated..or, perhaps, this method in itself acts as a preset time-delay for the planes (and thereby their crew) to get out of the area and to "safety"?

Just a thought...as always.

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Chem11
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The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 06-13-2001 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Negative on the shadow explanation. I've wathced the 'black line' remain in a static position while the accompanying CT spread out and blew far afield...

I have no idea what these damn things are. I've also watched the shadows appear directly in front of a sprayplanes flightpath, like by a couple minutes.

Some sort of guidance system, one would assume...

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amber
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445 posts, May 2001

posted 06-14-2001 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amber     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Jackcipher The first time I realised something strange was going on was when I too visited Northern Ireland. My family and I saw a partial chembow around the sun, which lasted all day - none of us had ever seen anything like it before. I've seen the black lines too - strangely, the one I see is always in the same place

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RidesTheWind
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1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 06-14-2001 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Capt...Could the black lines we see be radar beams reacting to the chemtrails? I can't think of what else they could be.

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Chem11
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The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 06-14-2001 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could be RTW, but I'm not neccesarily sure it's a 'reaction'. I've also seen multiple black lines in the area of a single CT. I guess the thing to do would be to figure out their origin. I'm leaning towards satellite in this regard, from what I've observed.

God. I am so tired of this shit. Pardon me, but I am. Not frustrated, or overwhelmed. Just tired. Think I might take a break for a couple days.

They did a real number on us yesterday in the Puget Sound, and that never helps. I saw something I've never seen before. They're not just creating phony cloud cover, they're busting up the real clouds. I watched it happen.

I'll go into more detail later, but not now. I keep trying to respond to Amber's post but everytime I do... well, you know.

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jackcipher
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47 posts, Jun 2001

posted 06-14-2001 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jackcipher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The lines,to me,have taken on the aspect of a mission.2 times i'v had the privilege.they were black while cutting the sky as far as my eyes could see,the image will never leave.AND NOT ONE PERSON IV TOLD GIVES A S***.

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Delphi
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S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 06-14-2001 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone, about the black line thingy...if you can, check IZAKOVICS DS-4 website. He is my colleague from Croatia where they have chem problem also...anyway, he has been kind enough to let me have a web page there for my chem photos and he has taken many photos as well...if I remember correctly, he explains what the lines may be and anyway, I have captured pictures of these dark lines so if you browse through all the pics there that he and I have, we both caught some I think, but I remember for sure, I got more than one pic of the dark lines. The site has updates but I think my "older" pics there are where they are at...from Oct,2000 until May 2001 and June will be in end of month. Blessings, Joanne site is: http://deepspace4.freeservers.com/pages/chemtrails/bossier/0501/bossier0305011.htm Hopefully, I got that up right. Anyway, DS-4 is easy to find through Surfingtheapocalypse website also.

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psylenced
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22 posts, Apr 2001

posted 06-14-2001 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for psylenced     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are some interesting EPA sites
http://www.epa.gov/superfund/sites/cursites/c3fl/s0401073.htm
http://www.epa.gov/superfund/sites/cursites/c3fl/s0400603.htm
http://www.epa.gov/superfund/sites/cursites/c3fl/s0404865.htm

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RidesTheWind
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The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 06-15-2001 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was watching the black line thingy yesterday closely.What I was seeing here was the black line shot out in front of the plane as it went along leaving the trail. If its a shadow why haven't we seen it up until now? This is something new and I place my bets on laser.

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Chem11
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The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 06-15-2001 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's exactly what I've seen, rtw. Except the black line persists long after after the
spraylane departs...I 'd love to see a telephoto shot of one of these planes while this was occurinng.

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RidesTheWind
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The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 06-15-2001 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah...The line shoots out in front but then as the plane and trail depart the line does linger...weird! I'll also add that yesterday as I was watching, they were creating very dark carbony looking clouds.Very much like black dirty snow.This may have some effect on it.

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Delphi
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S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 06-15-2001 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi again everyone, I coulda swore I had a picture at IZAKOVICS of a plane with dark line in front but I guess I didn't. I know I had some of chemtrails with dark lines alongside and such, but I definitely know what you are talking about as far as the planes go....I have been seeing this strange phenomena for over 2 years now and I don't know what is it, but I, too, like RTW, feels like it is more than a shadow,...there's a lot more to it, I think. The lines next to chems may be shadows or whatever, but not the "front of the planes" dark lines. When I have viewed those, it almost seemed to me like the air/atmosphere in front of the craft was being manipulated or changed in some way or that maybe some how, something was "marking" ahead the "path" that the chems were to take....it could have something to do with lasers, tracking. EM fields,...not sure....I started noticing sooner than others I suppose because of my UFO skywatching research and the very first time I saw it, I was amazed and something about it sure didn't look right or "feel" right as I've watched the skies intensely for over 20 years and I never saw anything like it before...only recent 2 yrs. Blessings, Joanne/ I have so many pics of trails and planes, I'm gonna dig through my stuff and see if I ever did get a plane/dark line one, maybe Thermitt could let me scan it over. Gonna look and see. My daughter may be the one who has it. I'll check with her too. J.

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RidesTheWind
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The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 06-15-2001 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An interesting observation...Was watching the massive spray campaign taking place outside just now, I think they are playing with Allison as it churns away just below us.
Anyway,I was noticing black lines in the clouds,so I zero'd in my binocs and noticed the clouds had long lines of black in them that began to wisp out just like chemtrails and create the heavy dark storm clouds.The whole sky was sunset one minute,then bleak thunderstorm black and gray.I guess tonight they are playing rainmaker.What next?Oh yeah, I saw the Tacamo plane just now,the one with the pointed rear end.Don't see them much.Last time was during sub testing.

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TomE
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Portland, OR USA
11 posts, May 2001

posted 06-15-2001 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have seen the black line shadows, and they were shadows, although at the time I got rather freaked out about it. About two weeks ago I was standing outside my office in downtown Portland staring up at the beautiful chemtrails. The planes fly pretty low over downtown, and when one came flying in from the west I noticed it spraying until it got to an area that was already quite covered, The plane stopped spraying and continued through the haze. As it cut through the haze it left a clear line through the haze, and when it got through it turned on the nozzles again. It was very similar to the pictures from Ontario.
I don't see the plane in these pictures, what I see is the spray being turned off and what appears to be a trail cut through the haze, nothing more. Just my opinion. Later

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RidesTheWind
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1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 06-17-2001 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tracers has some pretty good shots of the black lines, go in and check it out.Lots of very good chemtrail photography in there.
Enjoy! RTW
http://tracers.8m.com/blkline.htm

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Chem11
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1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 06-17-2001 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh hell yeah, RTW! I love Tracers. A bit hard to navigate but that site is full of great information.

And great photographic evidence, too.

Shadows?

I think not!

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001

posted 06-17-2001 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the link! I'm so glad to have a name for the black line thingy It's so nice to study a picture, it is definitely NOT a shadow!

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