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Topic: Some get it...most don't. | Topic page views:
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padawan-learner
Senior Member
Canada 105 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 06-19-2001 07:19 PM
So far my experience in trying to wake people up to the reality of chemtrails has (for the most part) been a failure.Is it how I presented the information? Were my pictures not as good as I thought? Was my approach somehow wrong? The answer to the above questions is "no". I have been thinking about something lately. Tell me if I'm alone in this. I believe that some people (for some reason) are painfully able to see the chemtrail operation. See it for what it really is. See the changes taking place as a result. These same people (myself included) usually experience a wide range of emotions due to their 'awakening'. These emotions may or may not include: anger, shock, dismay, disgust, sadness, hopelessness, bitterness, frustration, fear, loathing, mistrust, worry, anxiety, etc. Sadly, I fear that the majority of people are (for some unknown reason) just not able to see what is happening. I've been laughed at, ridiculed, been called 'paranoid'. One 'friend' later told me that he has been 'worried' about me. I've shown people my photos, I've pointed out chemplanes with accompanying chemtrails out to people. I have run around the front of my house with camera in hand, pointed at the sky, only to have my immediate neighbours not even ask me what I was doing. My question is (and I sincerely mean this), could it be possible that only some of us are 'allowed' to see this? It is becoming increasingly apparent to me that the majority of the masses, just aren't getting it. Some get it...most don't. Padawan-learner. 
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 06-19-2001 07:24 PM
One word padawan: denial.
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padawan-learner
Senior Member
Canada 105 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 06-19-2001 07:29 PM
Yeah....thought about that too. Maybe some people just don't want to actively think about the changes that may be coming. Much safer to keep the head buried waaaaaaaay down deep.
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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts

Lubbock, Texas 1347 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 06-19-2001 07:33 PM
This works for me, padawan-learner. I don't know if it would work for others. I've taken pictures of local chemtrails and put them into a photo-montage on my computer. I also have a few pictures I've downloaded from the net of especially egregious patterns and of the aircraft which are used.Whenever I get into a discussion of the phenomenon of chemtrails, I ask the person if they would like to look at some pictures. I print out my photomontages and give them a chance to evaluate them at their own convenience. Most people come back a few weeks later having seen the chemtrails themselves. They are then believers, if not necessarily radical activists.
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padawan-learner
Senior Member
Canada 105 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 06-19-2001 07:38 PM
Maybe I'll try that approach 3T3L1. I just believe that it is my job to bring this to peoples' attention. I did manage to get an article printed in one of our biggest newspapers. The article was entitled...'The Furore Over Chemtrails'. (I was proud of that). But I still don't understand why more people don't seem more readily able to see it. Sad, I tell ya. 
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JUSTAMOM1
New Member
Warrington,Pa. USA 11 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 06-19-2001 09:51 PM
In my experience i've found that people in the health food/supplement stores (employees and customers, the younger kids (up to appx. 15 yrs.old) mothers with kids that suffer from cronic sickness,and the 65+ crowd are the most receptive to the chemtrail reality. I liked your idea about the computer photos...a picture is worth a thousand words. How would one go about doing what you are doing? Would you be able to just "send" me one of those Chemtrail Primers"? Deb
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Ellyn
Senior Member
1242 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 06-19-2001 10:06 PM
As I write this, rows and rows and rows of chemtrails are being laid in the sky over my residence, fanning out into a white haze that covers the horizon for miles and miles. What would otherwise be a beautiful summer evening with its long-lasting light, takes on, for me, a nightmarish quality. I watch the local news and chemtrails are in every segment. I watch a movie or an advertisement on TV and chemtrials are there practically all of the time. I have begun speaking of these trails more often to people I meet when I am out and about. It is very rare that someone will actually acknowledge that he knows what I am talking about--when the sky over our heads is in the process of being covered horizon to horizon in a blaze of these chemtrails. Other times, the person hears me then wants "kill the messenger" who must not be all there. Tuesday evening, June 19, 2001, at 8:12 p.m. in Spokane, Washington. ------------------
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amber
UK ENVOY

uk 445 posts, May 2001
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posted 06-20-2001 03:58 AM
Padawan, your post echoes my thoughts exactly. I feel your frustration...sometimes my partner gets really fed up with me...I equally get soooo frustrated at his ostrich mentality...I sometimes wonder why i chose someone who denies that any type of 'conspiracy' exists...then I realise - were he like me I may go quietly mad His denial keeps me focused and grounded. Quantum physics has given us the 'observer effect' - that is, that two scientists can conduct the same experiment and get two different results, according to what they expected to see ( we are talking about experiments dealing with the smallest aspects of matter). With the chemtrails and crop circles and ufos...I believe that we see according to our reality - there are multiple realities, perhaps, and only when the person is ready and can handle the new reality, will they 'see'.A Quote Plato's Parable of the cave. 'In the parable, human beings dwell deep within a cave, their bodies chained in place and their necks fettered so they can only look forward at the wall of the cave. On the wall, they see shadows of artificial things projected there by passers-by. The cave dwellers take these shadows to be reality itself. But through mystical knowledge they slowly achieve liberation. They climb towards the mouth of the cave and their eyes are at first dazzled by the light. But then they learn to see in the light and they know reality as it truly is. They realize that in their ignorance they saw only the shadows of things.' We, I believe, are at the mouth of the cave, I believe there is an acceleratd spiritual evolution taking place. This invloves 'normal' people questioning their core beliefs, about everything - the state of the world, the quality of our leaders; the food we give our children; pollution...etc. The questioning leads them to a search for knowledge AND acknowledgemnt. By this i mean that, for a long time we, the ordinary people, have been staring at one of those 'magic eye' pictures - and have been hypnotized by it. Now, one by one, we are waking up and seeing the hidden picture! We are acknowledging that we now know what is really going on! You can't make anyone see it before they are ready...but you can tell them what shapes to look for and where to look for them. This is heavy stuff...as we all know. The knowledge and research on this site alone is SO challenging and frightning. It takes alot of guts and a strength of character - spiritual character, too - to handle this knowledge. Why are we so surprised that many people are not yet ready? 'Knowledge and understanding are passionate things which cause us to engage deeply with the world around or within us. The shadow form of this path is the man or woman who retreats from such engagement and would prefer not to understand. My mother used to tell me that I asked too many questions and that this would cause me nothing but suffering. 'Myself', she said, 'I just turn off the buttons'. Such people find it dangerous or painful to reflect on their experience, and thus become trapped on the surface of things or lost among the shadows on the wall of the cave' (Spiritual Intelligence - Zohar & Marshall) 
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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts

Lubbock, Texas 1347 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 06-20-2001 08:45 AM
Would you be able to just "send" me one of those Chemtrail Primers"?I could, JUSTAMOM, but do you have high speed internet? It will take you forever to download them. To everybody: I think the keys may be that 1. I give them pictures, so they have time to examine, re-examine and think about them. 2. The pictures are local and therefore not just a curiosity. Even so, not everybody believes them, e.g., my dear brother. 
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IontheSky
Senior Member
21 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 06-20-2001 09:31 AM
Hi, I'm new here but have been reading posts for awhile now. I live in New England and have seen mass amounts of chemtrail activity. Whatever I see I inform my parents and siblings. My mother thinks I've gone crazy. I've downloaded articles for her to read and while she was visiting yesterday, I pointed out a fake cloud and she told me it was a weather front moving in. After I told her that I watched the planes lay the trails and then turn into these whispy clouds she got a new look in her eyes and asked what I oculd do about it, it is going on everywhere. The best advice I can give is that on heavy spray days we stay inside with the heppa filter on high, surround ourselves with plants the remove toxins from the air, eat healthy, exercise and pray. when chem flu symtoms appear, we take colidal silver and I think the "plauge killer" works wonders.I think everyone on this board has taken a step in the right direction. If you are able to get through to just one person on the realities of chemtrails, you have awoken an individual. Hopefully, an individual with a voice. Bless you all for your voice 
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amber
UK ENVOY

uk 445 posts, May 2001
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posted 06-20-2001 10:01 AM
Hi & welcome IontheSky  
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padawan-learner
Senior Member
Canada 105 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 06-20-2001 10:02 AM
Amber, that was a great post. It does make alot of sense. People will see when they are ready to see. Some of us (you, me and many others) obviously are ready to see.I guess my problem is, I'm so passionate about waking people up, that I just set myself up for a giant letdown. By the way....welcome 'IontheSky'. I'm pretty new here too, and am already happy that I am now actively posting, and sharing info with other like-minded people. Padawan-learner. 
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 06-20-2001 10:06 AM
Ionthesky, and thank you for your voice!
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mark sky
bin Rydin

SW coast of Oregon 1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 06-20-2001 12:00 PM
I have to agree with Lulu, denighal~ based upon deep fear~ To accept what yours eyes are actually telling you [you are being sprayed] you must lose all security in your societal government It is not acceptable to most people They would rather keep their eyes pealed for the driveup fast food sign on the road ahead, and never question that uncle sam is there to protect them.
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