posted 06-25-2001 07:05 AM            

what the heck is wrong today? This link should work.....Why me???

[Edited 4 times, lastly by Thermit on 06-25-2001]

posted 06-25-2001 09:51 AM            

Actually, in order for this to be happening, not only would all the military personnel have to be mind controlled/threatened with legal action, but those same constraints would be in place against:

(1) The people who make the aircraft;
(2) The people who modify them;
(3) The people who make the chemicals and truck it to the airports;
(4) All the facilities security and guards at the airports, and chemical factories;
(4) All the meteorologists;
(5) All the control tower and GCA operators;
(6) All the commercial aircraft operators who would be forced out of the way;
(7) All the news people in print media and television stations; and
(8) Since most chemtrail protagonists believe that chemtrail spraying is international, then all of those types and classes of people mentioned above - not just in the United States, but throughout the world.

You made another great comment as well, and I quote:

"This is getting really scary folks. Think about it. If ya dare to."

posted 06-25-2001 10:25 AM            

I worked on a project for S*m at one time that was known only to those involved. It was a touchy project and controversial. Sworn to silence, against threats. But, half of the nearby city could tell you all about what we were doing. And this project could not be seen by them or the geo sync sat that was above us. Human nature is to tell what you know. I know something you don't.

posted 06-25-2001 12:05 PM            

Since the first cave man found that he could dominate his cave mates in one way or the other, he has been doing so. The only thing that has changed is Ogg now uses technology that goes far beyond the club.

I see three possible scenerios, but am open minded.

1. Massive mind control and/or inoculation,(here I think the term "inoculate" takes on a slightly different meaning than that usually thought of.)

2. Undeclared global warfare against "free" nations, using a biological, environmental, and electonic platforms. And some, not all, of these chems are countermeasures.

3. We are fighting or working with something outside of this planet or preparing for same.

The silence thing is, for me the mystery here. How can this be without someone slipping up. But, if number one is anywhere on target, then that may suppy some answers to the silence.

posted 06-25-2001 12:40 PM            

Most of the time I'm miserable because I see the big picture, and to me it isn't a pretty one. I know it's going to get alot worse....alot worse.

But you know what? I wouldn't have it any other way....through all of the sadness and depression I experience. I'm glad I have the gift of being able to see through the facade that most people apparently can't see through.

That's why I come to this board because, even though there is sometimes disagreement, I really feel that people here also have the ability to 'see'.

posted 06-25-2001 01:20 PM            

I think that in order to be "aware" of anything not of the ordinary, you have to be a free thinker, not afraid to buck to current and mainstream thinknig.
So you are right amber, main stream thinking is what holds most folks back. Afraid of what their friends would think of them. Afraid of how they would look to others that did not know them.

But that is not what is causing to officals in most all countries around the world to deny or not speak of chemtrails. It is something far more sinister in my way thinking.
Something that is global, something this massive, and with this many apparant participants and implications would be almost impossibe not to speak of.

Of course the only thing any government has said was, "Its not happening". So the ultimate denial is to not speak of it. But how do they keep all the others involved silent, that is the question.
Words like "talk and we kill your family" works well with numbers 1 and 3 and may the trick.

1. Hybrids
2. Patriotism.
3. Work/ survival privledge
06-25-2001
IZAKOVIC
Croatian

Thank you RTW

posted 06-25-2001 09:33 PM            

"They could get real control the situation if they led the mass population of sprayers into thinking that they and they ALONE knew about some catastraphic possible disaster happening on perhaps a global level and they couldn't tell a soul because the panic created would be out of control.It was up to them to save the world in secracy..."

The comment about the panic is what made me remember something I'd read about why UFO's were kept in secret and still being kept for the last 50 years. The government didn't want to tell people the truth because they were afraid it would create a panic. Also they wanted to maintain the status quo. Maintain control at all costs.

posted 06-26-2001 12:01 AM            

Mr. Kuntz..how do you explain the drastic changes that have been made to Public Radar sites...I used to be able to access many radar screens and see the trails, the blobs and the rings...now every site I can access looks so generic, most of them don't even show thunderstorms anymore.

posted 06-26-2001 04:53 AM            

"COVERT ACTIONS cannot be carried out without a lot of help. Invariably, many people learn something about the operation. For those conducting a covert operation, there are three levels of protections against such disclosure.

First, there is a culture of secrecy surrounding such operations. People are sworn to secrecy, and they take their oaths with the utmost seriousness. In this case, even those who later become disillusioned and decide to talk. are extremely guarded. Many fear for their physical safety.

Second, there is compartmentalization. Ideally, in a political covert action almost no one should have the whole picture. Especially those at a lower level should have as little information as possible about any activities except those required to fulfill their mission. "Need to know" is the rule, and if it is rigorously observed, even a disgruntled operative will only be able to reveal one tiny dimension of the operation...

The third layer of protection is culpability. If the covert operation involved criminal activities, the source will be reluctant to subject himself to possible prosecution. That inhibition is greatly strengthened if those he is accusing happen to be in positions of great political power."

Sick ends the introduction to his book which sums up the education many of us have gotten when we looked into war and the causes of war:

"What I found shocked me, for I had stumbled upon a tale of bold deception by a few powerful men, who apparently calculated that political manipulation, if conducted on a sufficiently grand scale, would be essentially invisible and ultimately beyond the law."

And that's how our wars start and are kept going until they no longer serve their purposes.

posted 06-26-2001 02:30 PM            

1. Hybrids

New race, in every respect except in the external appearience, for the new enviroment, immune biologicaly and psyhologicllay to the old and transient one, fit to cosciously accept all requirements of The Boss and to function in the gravitation bonded, multi-planet society. Bearers of the light.

2. Patriotism

From SIGHTINGS article:
…..
Here's the first line of a book published in 1858 called "Battles of the Republic." It's a series of sketches of important US military battles up to that date. The book begins:
"The object of most of the wars undertaken by Great Britain has been to force her commercial system upon other nations."
Now our wars are about fighting communism, liberating the downtrodden emirs of Kuwait, and saving Albanian refugees by bombing their villages and arming the criminal elements of their society.
…..
We all know Hitler, the poster boy for all that is evil, but how did he make the transition from Army corporal to Fuhrer? Popular histories are awfully vague.
Professor Peter Hoffman's book "Hitler's Personal Security - Protecting the Fuhrer, 1921-1945" reveals some surprising information on that subject.
After distinguishing himself on the battlefield, Hitler was invited to join German Army intelligence. His first intelligence job was out of a Munich Army garrison in 1919 (coincidentally the same year young J. Edgar Hoover made his mark coordinating raids against US "Reds.) Hitler's specialty was infiltration of and counter-revolutionary propaganda work against leftist groups.
While still in the employment of the German Army, he joined the National Socialist (Nazi) Party in 1920 and within a year was its leader. What was the trump card he had up his sleeve back then? Simple: He could call on plainclothes German Army and militia soldiers to assist him whenever things turned violent as they often did in the bloody political climate of WWI German politics.
So Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party were, to a significant degree, a creation of an anti-leftist campaign administered covertly by the German military. Support from Ford, Hearst, GM, Standard Oil, and others including Prescott Bush, W's grandfather, came later on. (Grandpa Bush was a major shareholder in a bank was seized as a Nazi front under the Trading with the Enemy Act.)
…..
Former Navy man and political and military affairs analyst in three White House administrations, Gary Sick, gives one of the clearest description of what "conspiracies" are, how they operate, and how hard they are to unravel in his book "October Surprise."
Sick's books documents how William Casey and conspirators acted to delay the release of the American hostages in Iran and negotiate their own deal in order to defeat Jimmy Carter and guarantee the election of Ronald Reagan.
…..

This remarks should not be read here as color or hand designations of any kind. They simply describe a philosophical, or if somebody would like it better, spiritual fundaments of Society many of US live in. It is a story as old as secret societies are.

3. Work/ survival privilege

More from the same article:
…..
"COVERT ACTIONS cannot be carried out without a lot of help. Invariably, many people learn something about the operation. For those conducting a covert operation, there are three levels of protections against such disclosure.
First, there is a culture of secrecy surrounding such operations. People are sworn to secrecy, and they take their oaths with the utmost seriousness. In this case, even those who later become disillusioned and decide to talk are extremely guarded. Many fear for their physical safety.
Second, there is compartmentalization. Ideally, in a political covert action almost no one should have the whole picture. Especially those at a lower level should have as little information as possible about any activities except those required to fulfill their mission. "Need to know" is the rule, and if it is rigorously observed, even a disgruntled operative will only be able to reveal one tiny dimension of the operation...
The third layer of protection is culpability. If the covert operation involved criminal activities, the source will be reluctant to subject himself to possible prosecution. That inhibition is greatly strengthened if those he is accusing happen to be in positions of great political power."
…..

Each of us becomes a part of conspiracy starting with the first personal work contract and the rest is called life. My personal experience tells me that large majority of western population is perfectly aware of the presence and the unnatural origin of the spraying operation. It refuses to publicly acknowledge this fact because it does not want to change achieved way of life.

Sorry. I did not ask to be sprayed at all.