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eyesopen
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Ventura CA
627 posts, Apr 2001

posted 07-13-2001 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyesopen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saw white jets today flting throught he usual chem zones with no contrails. Lots of leftover junk in the air. Many black stringy clouds, jumbo whites, large greyish cottenball formations. Looked out my window at a redlight and the sun happened to be right behind my car's roof and I noticed lots of specs wizzing through the air......

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roman
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Marietta Ohio USA
407 posts, Sep 2000

posted 07-13-2001 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
South east Ohio valley. Blue sky's NO chemtrail or contrail activity all day.. roman

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Buzz
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73 posts, Jul 2001

posted 07-14-2001 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buzz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EXTREME activity here in VA on Thursday, July 12. Nothing on Friday and clear so far 9:00 AM on Saturday.

Be Well.

Buzz

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RidesTheWind
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The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 07-14-2001 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sat/jul 14....clear blue skies at 9:15 a.m.
Its very chilly for july thats for sure.
Heavy build up of pink/brown haze over the western horizon.Will add to later if they return.12:05 p.m. and we are quickly being overtaken by white puff clouds again.Most appear as just clouds, some start emitting while smoke haze as they drift out.It smells funny too.

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David
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1290 posts, Oct 2000

posted 07-14-2001 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Northern Calif./Lake Co. 0714/01 1040hrsPDT
No visible con/chemtrails in any portion of the sky. Dirty haze on horizon and blue/grey haze at ground level to several hundred feet still persists.

Update: heavy chems in the afternoon in the northern portion of the counties of Lake and Mendocino.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by David on 07-16-2001]

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Lulu
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2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 07-14-2001 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kelowna BC, South Central Okanagan Valley 7/14/01 11:30 AM PST lingering spreading contrails noted.

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KnewEyes
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under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001

posted 07-14-2001 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KnewEyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Central Connecticut to the shoreline has been pretty clear of trails for about 4 days now. What I am seeing tho, are MONSTEROUSLY GIGANTIC Cumulus, and Cumulonimbus clouds, like I can't remember seeing around here in a long time, if ever(at this size). Huge puffy white crisp edged "worlds" are floating by, and makes me wonder if something isn't hiding in them! Always the little black smears intermixed,here and there, and long dirty lenticular clouds on the horizon.I wake up to a surreal looking day many mornings, when the sky is just filled with grey stratocumlulus, and nimbostratus,, oceans of clouds overhead.

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roman
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Marietta Ohio USA
407 posts, Sep 2000

posted 07-14-2001 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No trails this morning . Our friendly neighborhood spray planes made up for that this afternoon heavy activity all afternoon until sunset. This is unusual for us because they usually start in the morning and go at it all day. Roman in Marietta Ohio ,thats all for today.

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Cougar390
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Milwaukee, WI
70 posts, Jun 2001

posted 07-14-2001 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cougar390     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
7-14-01 SE WI
No trails seen until about 6:30 CDT. Spray planes then laid trails through the thick cumulous (sp) clouds and over a 10 minute time you could watch them break up into very thin cirrus clouds.

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Delphi
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S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 07-14-2001 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NW Louisiana, heavy "dirty-white-gray" haze followed by late afternoon "chemtrail remnants" from Westerly direction. Very high chem clouds, wavy chem lines and then "cotton-ball" chem cloud formations. Cooler than usual temperatures for here today. Chemplane sounds evident at times but no visuals. Odor of chemicals and/or burning plastic throughout the area, no smoke of any kind visible. Blessings, Joanne ^j^Respiratory irritations to entire family and neighbors. J.

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Catnip57
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Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001

posted 07-14-2001 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catnip57     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Today in the Yakima Valley we had chemtrails around late morning, early afternoon. These trails floated in from what appeared to be a north easterly direction. Didn't really see any planes spraying.

Presently at 8:30 the sky is mostly clear blue with only remenants of clouds on the edges of the horizon.

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eyesopen
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Ventura CA
627 posts, Apr 2001

posted 07-14-2001 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyesopen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No planes in Maine but lots of chem stlye clouds everywhere. Clouds near the sun often had red and green look through sunglasses. There was a huge multi mile black cloud mass that was definately not normal. Sat shots show a huge cloud mass floating off the coast in the ocean and I think chem junk is drifting in from that. Violent brief rains today as well.

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RidesTheWind
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The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 07-15-2001 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
6:00 a.m. Sun./jul 15
Blue skies but chem clouds floating towards us and over us from the West.These clouds are the carpet clouds as I call them.One cloud begins to separate out into zillions of tiny clouds that eventually carpet out the sun and blue skies.Will add later if things change.

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David
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1290 posts, Oct 2000

posted 07-15-2001 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Northern Calif./Lake Co./07-15-01/ 0800Hr PDT
Chemlines in the east portion of the country. Many of them, in a N/S direction/We are going to get blasted today!!

Update: Lake and Mendocino counties were dripping with chemtrails today. By evening the haze was so thick the hills less than a mile away were hard to see. There is no definition or contrast to the surrounding mountains. Everything today looks 2D, the is no depth to the backround. Sad

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jackcipher
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47 posts, Jun 2001

posted 07-15-2001 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jackcipher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After 2 beautiful days,getting blown away so far this morning,sky is covered....strange color i have not noticed before..LOCATION MIDDLE TENNESSEE

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Cougar390
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Milwaukee, WI
70 posts, Jun 2001

posted 07-15-2001 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cougar390     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
7-15-01 SE WI and Milwaukee
8:30 CDT I witnessed trails that were at least 1/2 hour old, and they've been relentless all day. Typical cloud to cloud formation. On a side note, I've had a "cold" for nearly 3 weeks now, and i'm hardly ever sick. I'm also pretty young, so co-incidence? I'm starting to think so. God bless.
As of 7:30 pm CDT activity just picked up again. Also, does anyone have a site with a list of USAF bases and their locations?

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Cougar390 on 07-15-2001]

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David
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1290 posts, Oct 2000

posted 07-16-2001 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Northern Calif./Lake Co./07-16-01/0830hrsPDT

Whoa. Chemlines is every square inch of airspace. Long, short, and from every direction. Some are low, some are high. Since the 4th of July we had only two days with no spray. They are drownng us in the mess.
UPDATE: Complete white out was achieved by 1200Hrs PDT. Many more trails being added to the mix. Some of these at low altitude. Temp today mid 70's/ Norm, [100+/ No clouds/low humidity]
A few "normal" clouds passing by are quickly pounced on by more chemstrails resulting in their,the clouds, being dispersed.


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RidesTheWind
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The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 07-16-2001 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
7/16/01 Maryland coastline: Sparse lines here and there but a thick whiteout headed our way from the west.They obviously have been burying someone else...Thank God.

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msswv123
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Gastonia,NC USA
123 posts, Jan 2001

posted 07-16-2001 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for msswv123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's today's predictions..pretty all encompassing, not alot of definitive areas.....I do know we had large plumes here last night that glowed in the dark...blessings ms

>>Today, I have to make a very quick forecast - lots to do. There isn't a
lot of dry air in many locations today so many locations will have
contrails. The only really dry air I can find is roughly from San Diego
towards central Nebraska. The slimmest chance for contrails exists here
in my area (very crisp beautiful blue sky out my window) and into central
Nebraska. Also much of Florida is drier at upper levels and would not
support long-lived contrails. The rest of the country is rather moist
though.

I'll give a more detailed forecast tomorrow.<

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Catnip57
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Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001

posted 07-16-2001 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catnip57     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yakima Valley... today it's blue skies and partially cloudy with normal clouds. So far I don't see any chemtrails.

We've had a change in temperatures. Last week was hot and this week it's going to be quite cool. Today is quite cool and breezy. Acutally it's a nice break from the heat.

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KnewEyes
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under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001

posted 07-16-2001 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KnewEyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Today lots of gigantic cumulo clouds again, here in central Connecticut. Have had 5 days or so of clear blue background sky,, no spraying, temperature seemed normal for the first time all summer too,in the 70's.Today they started mega spraying again,, above the cumulo clouds,or by going right into the clouds. Heat is rising again today to the 90's.

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msswv123
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Gastonia,NC USA
123 posts, Jan 2001

posted 07-16-2001 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for msswv123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
adding info and update for today...blessings ms
I asked:
>>.I had a question as
> to what would constitute a long lasting contrail....and if the relative
> humidity must be a certain amount before those would last so long..and what
> would that have to be 50% or 60%....know your busy, take your time.<<<<

He answered:

When the relative humidity reaches around 70% (with respect to water) at
temperatures around -40 C (or F), then the humidity with respect to ice
is closer to 90%. With humidity this high, I would expect a contrail to
form behind a jet and last for hours and hours provided the ambient humidity
level remains approximately the same. It isn't taught in school but the
relatively humidity with respect to water and ice is different. You can
be saturated with respect to ice in temperatures down to -40 C while it
is not saturarted with respect to water. What this means is that ice
crystals can form from water vapor without forming water droplets first.
Not all ice in the atmosphere starts as water - most of it does but not ALL.
Some ice crystals form from water vapor (water molecules in gas form
instead of liquid). If you have ever seen "hoar frost" on a fence or
trees, then you would be seeing the same phenomenon (ice formed by vapor
deposition).

Forecast update:
Very moist conditions aloft exist now for most of the eastern half of
the lower 48 states. THe driest air is located in the far northeast
corner of CO into central NE. This air is headed toward Minneapolis so
I would not be surprised if this city has some contrails now but they
will tend to dissipate over the next couple hours with very short-lived
ones (or none) by sunset. In the southwest corner of MN, contrails are
very unlikely now thru sunset.

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Lulu
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2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 07-16-2001 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a military base map for you Cougar... http://webpagesrruss.com/radar/militarybasemap.pdf

If you can't get it to download, let me know.

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roman
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Marietta Ohio USA
407 posts, Sep 2000

posted 07-16-2001 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
South east Ohio took another pounding today .Trails from early morning to now as I post this message.roman

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Cougar390
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Milwaukee, WI
70 posts, Jun 2001

posted 07-16-2001 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cougar390     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Lulu, that helped a lot.
7-16-01 Milwaukee
Some visible trails, unsure of chem/con though. Sky is kind of hazy, i'm sure something was going on.
I have a report from north of the city of heavy spraying. There is a possiblity of rain tonight, so they are making sure it won't rain, especially in the farm country. I believe a worldwide drought is being manufactured. I was at the store today and something told me to buy a few canned goods each time I shop. If nothing else, i'm sure the needy would appreciate them. God bless.

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