posted 07-14-2001 04:13 PM               

The nice thing about Washington state is that anyone who doen't have a felony conviction can easily obtain a concealed weapon permit.

Know this Cydoniaquest, if you ever decide to carry through on your threats you will be confronting an individual who:

1. Is authorized to carry a handgun.

2. Has been trained to operate one with a high degree of proficiency.

3. Has been able to painstakingly document these death threats, and the individual responsible for making them.

4. Is intimately familiar with the laws regarding justifiable homicide.

So if you're going to come, come correct.

I hope the people who particpate in this forum never have to be exposed to such an ugly exchange again. Thermit has been exceedingly tolerant with posting priveledges and it saddens me that anyone would take advantange of that tolerance to this degree.

posted 07-14-2001 04:46 PM               

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Now, I'm sure that an operation would have to probably be compartmentalized (super secret) but a chemtrail operation that's as large as is alleged would require so many people being under oath to keep quiet, AND FULLY AWARE OF CONDUCTING ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES, that I find the possibility of it happening without ONE credible person coming forward to be extremely remote.

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Maverick, it doesn't really sound like you understand the concept of 'compartmentalization'. The idea is that you seperate the people involved in the operaton into small, tightly controlled groups that work on a small, tightly controlled aspect of the program. This insures that almost no one is capable of divulging any information. The guy in the lab messing with various aerosol formulations wouldn't be told what he was working on. He simply follow orders and submits his results.

The pilots of those tanker planes are probably told whatever TPTB think they would like to hear. Probably that it is part of a radar enhancement project or a counter-biological weapons project. Whatver.

The point is that the people involved in a compartmentalized project aren't 'fully aware' of anything. That's the whole point.

posted 07-14-2001 05:15 PM               

What I said was, that you have no idea what hostility is, if you think I'm hostile towards you on this board. That's a fact...That's a reality....not a threat. If I was threatening you, there would be no question about it, because I wouldn't use words to do it. I've also said this before when you came up with your lawyer crap...but obviously you don't understand the meanings of words. Why would I use words with someone who doesn't listen?

posted 07-14-2001 05:17 PM               

You must have comprehension problem, RTW. Please copy and paste the area where I said I hate you so much.

I believe what I said was that I don't hate the ignorant...I believe you said however something to the effect that you were done talking to me. Reneging on promises I see? As you can see, and have just demonstrated, the other thing about liberals is that words really mean only what they want them to mean depending on the mood of the moment.

You don't have to worry about me leaving this message board though. Looks like Mark loves his flock, has chosen ideologies and may just make it happen for you. And if I do get deleted...you will not see me back at this board under any other name. That is a promise. My words do mean something.

There will of course be consequences for that action however, that Mark will have to deal with. These are not threats....just realities. Every action has consequences.

Words do have meaning.....at least for me anyway. What I said to Chem 11 was not a threat, it was a fact....a reality. He doesn't know what hostility is if he thinks I'm hostile in this thread. If that is seen is a threat, then I can't help the way people want to interpret things. I'm just speaking the truth.

Why don't you run to Mr Thermit again RTW, if you think I am such a problem. I'm sure he'd delete me for you in a heartbeat.....but let me tell you a little something about Mark and the history of this board first, and why Mark might have shown some hesitance:

I would have never come to this board had Mark not asked me to. Originally this board was over-run with de-bunkers. It was a den of detractors, and Mark asked me to help out and counter the prevailing viewpoint of the time which was most definitely anti-chemtrail. He even offered to make me a moderator (an offer which I rejected). But I did agree to go after those who insulted others in earnest, in order that the issue of chemtrails might have a balanced viewpoint, and so those who were interested in the issue might have a say.

In fact, I was so aggressive I'm afraid I forever put myself on the hate list of none other than the infamous and notorious Jay Reynold's himself! Ironic that Chem11 considers me a debunker and Jay considers me a "chemmie" now isn't it?

But words obviously don't matter....to most people on these boards…. I could say what I think and truly believe all day. I could speak from my heart with the utmost conviction, and with the most eloquent and straight-forward words I can express....but people are still going to say I think, or am something else. Just like you just did RTW.

For example, I just got through saying to you that I don't hate anybody.....and that I understand this accusation is a well known tactic of the left, and what do you do? Not two posts later do you come back and say "If you hate everyone so much why do you hang around here"?

How many times has Mav had to explain what he believes...only to have you or someone like you come back and re-hash the whole thing all-over again…..accusing him or his collegues of spraying people with some chemical designed to kill slowly. In other words, you are, in essence, calling him a murderer.

No, I don't think that you have a comprehension problem or are even brain-dead...just that you are disingenuous and unprincipled, as are most of those with your mindset. You hear what you want to hear and say what you want to say if it suits your agenda.

For example, back to my story.... after I had defended all those "chemmies" for months against the "Evil" debunkers...what do the very people I defend do? Well they turn on me like vipers...and Mark does nothing. I was there that night of the "eraserdude" attack and went out of my way to explain to Mark who this guy was, by way of his IP numbers. Yes that's right, Mark gave even me the ability to see IP numbers..... He must have liked something about me before this board became such a hit..to entrust me with that little bonus. But now he has definitely shown where his allegiance lies, in this very thread.

Instead of addressing your outrageous and insulting remarks and assumptions about people in the military....and addressing it for what it is, an obvious insult and attack. Instead of understanding why my reactions to Chem 11 are justified after my long and detailed explanation....Mark comes back and threatens me with deletion.

posted 07-14-2001 06:55 PM               

A little friendly advice froom someone whose made the same mistake, jackcipher...never try and step between two combatants. You just wind up getting both parties ticked off at you. Leave the moderation to the moderators.

Hell, sit back and enjoy the show. You probably have no idea what a great ticket you have in your hand...

posted 07-14-2001 07:18 PM               

(From the Hoax Board)

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Maybe there's nothing more I can add or offer to any of this....and it has no meaning for me any more. So maybe it doesn't hurt to get a few honest things off my chest on the way out....

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Such as this?

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I've said countless times now that I don't have a belief in chemtrails.

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I see. Well, I wasn't here when you were 'defending' your fellow activists from those terrible 'debunkers', but I'm sure I speak for everyone when I tell you how deeply grateful I am for your sincerity and willingness to lead the charge on behalf of this initiative.

posted 07-14-2001 07:38 PM               

Wait a minute Mark...this sounds like a threat to me! Sounds like Chem11 here is threatening to put me in the "recovery room". Threatening violence, eh chem....and all I did was promise you more hostility if we should meet in person. Now so far you've threatened gun violence and putting me in "the recovery room"....or am I not reading this right.

Not going to issue Chem here the same warning Mark?

posted 07-14-2001 07:54 PM               

Down = discredited.

'Recovery room' = Hoax board.

Scan of map of Seattle with tweezers superimposed = hilarious.

Watching you twist in the wind...

posted 07-14-2001 07:58 PM               

Just goes to show that you obviously don't have two brain cells to rub together.

Let's get this straight Chem...anything I say on any public board is said intentionally so that the public may read it.

Here's the damn link....if it makes it any more convenient for you: Chickie Deb's Chemtrail Hoax Board

I assumed that by now......everyone on Mark's board was reading Chickie's board too. Apparently Chemhead doesn't think so.

If you just asked me....you'd know I don't have a belief in chemtrails....nor any unproven theory for that matter. Like all of my quotes you once again take this out of context being the lying sack O shit you are.

But don't get your hopes up yet, Mark hasn't deleted me. That is the only condition which will cause me to leave. Until then, I'll be here to check up on you Chem, and remind you that I know where you live....ya little dweeb...

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posted 07-14-2001 08:27 PM               

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Yes that's right, Mark gave even me the ability to see IP numbers..... He must have liked something about me before this board became such a hit..to entrust me with that little bonus. But now he has definitely shown where his allegiance lies, in this very thread.

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posted 07-14-2001 08:32 PM               

She could quit that part-time job at the drug store on the ad-revenue alone!

Out of context? How can 'I have no belief in chemtrails' possibly be taken out of context?
And since you stand by this statement, what are you worried about? Hmmm?

I'm glad you bring up the topic of deletion. It's clear to me that the only reason this hasn't occurred is because of either ideaological or personal loyalty.

I find this trait, however misguided, to be admirable. The concept seems to be quite alien to you, Cydoniaquest...

Well, since you've apparently changed your alleged mind about leaving us in your own cordial, dignified way... I guess Thermit is either going to have pull the plug on you and your brazen disregard for this forum's rules or he is going to let this continue until there's only one of us left standing.

posted 07-14-2001 10:10 PM               

Lulu....this information would not have been divulged had not Mark stabbed me in the back today by revealing where his thoughts and loyalties are aligned on this very thread.

Just last night I welcomed him to Christy's board..and my feelings were very positive towards him, but now he has shown his true colors. I now understand the feelings of everyone he has deleted in the past. I understand Chickideb's anger and resentment.....and you know something, I feel they are completely justified, even our friend Jay Reynolds who also hates my guts, and perhaps rightly so.

posted 07-14-2001 10:31 PM               

Poor Cydoniaquest. Has to follow the rules (for once in his life) so he decides to burn one of his few remaining friends in a childish tantrum.

Nice.

I don't know what kind of 'consequences' you think Thermit is going to incur by banning you. But short of finding out he's military intelligence, there's not much you can say that would change my opinion of him or this forum.

Even then, I'd trust him farther than I'd trust someone like you.

You know what a 'lot lizard' is, Cy?

posted 07-14-2001 11:01 PM               

If you weren't such a complete moron, you'd also know I'm not here for your respect or trust. I'm not here to make you distrust Mark.

I'm here to make your life a little bit more fun.....well, for as long as I can anyway. Look how many page views this thread has had today....seems we're a hit.

But rules don't mean anything to me....I'm already deleted as far as I'm concerned. The only rules I ever follow are my own anyway, and that's a pretty high standard.

posted 07-14-2001 11:14 PM               

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Lulu....this information would not have been divulged had not Mark stabbed me in the back today by revealing where his thoughts and loyalties are aligned on this very thread.

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posted 07-14-2001 11:42 PM               

Why? Because they lower themselves to servicing people like Cydoniaquest.

Anyway, it's like I told jackcipher. Sit back and enjoy the show. It's not everyday you get to watch a firmly entrenched fifth columnist self-destruct.

I hate to cut this short, but it's Saturday night. I can't claim that I have the same carefree lifestyle that I had before I got sucked into this cyberchem infowar, but I still have half a life, anyway. And I don't intend to waste that half beating a dead horse, so to speak.

So you're going to get the last word, Cydoniaquest(for now). I'm heading to Pollyesther's to get my 70's style groove on(Can you dig it, UNsucks?) and I will leave you to the lot lizards, Cy.

See that girl, watch that scene, digging the dancing queen...

posted 07-14-2001 11:45 PM               

He's no damn king and he can kick me out of his "home" any time he wants....and he probably will. It's a simple thing really, I'm practically inviting it here (if you haven't noticed)...and the consequences are, that he will have lost a friend and my commentary whatever value that may have on this board...that's all, nothing more.

That may not sound like much of a consequence to people like Chemhead....but I know Mark. I know there is a big part of him that is sick of the whiners and doomsayers as I am. There is, like you say, a scientific side of him that want's to pursue truth...and rejects all those who so readily jump to their paranoid conclusions, but he will never get to that truth from this crowd, if the leftist whiners continue here unchallenged. He will just get more of the same old bilge that eventually overtook the Carnicom board. I know that once he aligns himself with people like Chem11, it's a powerful turning point.

The only consequence is that he will never see the likes of me on this board again, which you might feel is not such a bad thing. I'm just a nobody from nowhere.....completely unimportant, and I'm simply testing to see if Mark agrees. If so, then if I'm gone it won't matter, and people like RTW and David and Chem and Delphi and Marksky and yourself can rejoice and go on your merry way unopposed or challenged by people like me....