posted 07-15-2001 12:17 AM               

What does a lot lizard have to do with anything....and what but a diseased mind would bring such a subject up out of thin air? Muppet porn sets you off does it? Why don't you join a convent and become a nun you prude. You've led a sheltered life, haven't you.

I've never had the services of a "lot lizard", but every over the road driver has had the experience of them knocking on their door at 2:00 AM when they are trying to sleep.

It's a hell of a way to live....and I have the ultimate respect for long haul drivers. I know what hell they live through....and there is no shame for a man who chooses to work for a living. Long haul truck driving is a 24 hour a day/ 7 day a week job...and any driver who is on the road that much is going to come across what is known as a lot-lizard from time to time. So what in the hell is your point?

I'm self educated for the most part, worked my way out of the driving lifestyle only recently......I read computer and commodities books by the dim light of a sleeper cab when dead tired....risked every thing I owned to change my life, and even paid the price of homelessness for it..... And last year I netted close to 100 thousand dollars in computer industry and commodities futures markets....I will probably double that this year.

Yes...I was a truck driver, and I am proud of that. I was also homeless at one point....but life isn't easy. Nobody guarantees you anything in this life. I pulled myself up by my own bootstraps....and along the way, I have heard of lot lizards...

posted 07-15-2001 12:58 AM               

And last year I netted close to 100 thousand dollars in computer industry and commodities futures markets....I will probably double that this year.

Thanks for telling me buddy !!!!!!

T/S

posted 07-15-2001 04:59 AM               

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Originally posted by Chem11:
On that note, I'd like to call out TG on something he said in his post:

Maverick, it doesn't really sound like you understand the concept of 'compartmentalization'. .......The point is that the people involved in a compartmentalized project aren't 'fully aware' of anything. That's the whole point.

And that's how secrecy is maintained.

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I don't understand the concept of compartmentalization? I really beg to differ.

posted 07-15-2001 05:06 AM               

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Originally posted by RidesTheWind:
And one more thing I'd like to ask TG...
Please explain to me, if there are no chemtrails, why do I have the same all white unmarked planes flying over me day after day after day,making lines? No us Air, no TWA,no American, just all white planes....???

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I can't explain it. That is, until I see what it is that you're seeing. I must warn you, though: Kanuck on Cliff's posted a photo of an evil "chemsprayer" that I have shown (on my nearly extinct message board) to be a Northwest Airlines 747. If he's not quite sure of what he's seeing, my opinion is that maybe others aren't sure, either. I'm still waiting to be proven wrong.

Mav

posted 07-15-2001 05:19 AM               

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Originally posted by eyesopen:
TG69,
Help out a veteran here. How is it that I see and now have on video (which will be distributed shortly to those who wish to see)all white jets flying, leaving no contrail, then leaving short and long bursts? Then they return, leaving no contrail in the same area where the one's left earlier are hanging, and redo the whole process of no contrail to persistant contrail in long and short bursts? They are flying low enough to make out some detail like color. shape etc (as opposed to when they are so high that you see just a dot). This isn't an attack or anything. I am just curious of your opinion on this. I know you haven't seen my footage so this would be your best guess. Thanks.

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I need to see your video. That's the short answer.

The long answer is that atmospheric conditions are different from one spot to another, and from altitude to altitude. Because a jet flies through an area of more humid air and then flies back into a dry area, that's why. I've seen it in the plane that I fly, and I see no reason to beileve that it's not possible in other airframes, either.

I also hear a lot about these "unmarked" jets that are frequently mentioned. Where's the photos of these? Of course, at 30,000 feet, a lot of jets are going to look "unmarked." But, the real money is made when you get a shot of these evil bastards at a low enough altitude or parked at an airport. A 30,000 foot photo of a jet with a silver bottom is unacceptable. There's lots of those out there, and they are legitimate airliners.

Did you get footage of your aircraft actually turning around and coming back overhead, or did it just look the same as the last aircraft to fly over? Also, you have no way to accurately judge aircraft altitude from the ground, and aircraft that are several thousand feet apart in altitude can look like they are pretty close from the ground.

Also, a jet going in one direction may not leave a contrail compared to another because the aircraft travelling upwind is typically flying at a higher power setting that the one headed downwind. This increase in power and relative airspeed alone can cause different reactions with the atmosphere.

posted 07-15-2001 08:35 AM               

Eeeewwww.....This, and the rest of this thread is sickening. I'm really shocked Mark has Chem11 as a moderator. The way he speaks to people reminds me of Lorie Kramer...but worse. Lorie loved to kick her power around, but at least she wouldn't try to elevate the problem.

Swedishoo

posted 07-15-2001 08:54 AM               

When you say this about Chem11, you must also say it about Seeker....because he is the one who jumped at Chem11's bidding the minute Chem 11 made his arrogant and pissy little request....while at the same time Seeker is posting hyena porn over at ChickieDeb's board, he's deleting Bert getting some of Pamela! The whole thing would be incredibly funny I guess...if it weren't so blatently stupid and incredibly hypocritical.

posted 07-15-2001 09:27 AM               

Cy, you don't need to test Mark to see where he stands with you. He has known you for a long time too and understands the situation. To disagree with other posters is the beauty of forums. However, to put the founder in the postion of pick and choose is absurd. That's like the fighting siblings running to dad to punish the other. LOLOL. Chem11 being more gulity of it than Cy....and he's a moderator?? LOLOL.

Personally, If I was the daddy, I'd let the two of you rip each other apart and let you guys come to your own terms, while I'd let Seeker hover over the delete button waiting to see an "F" word.

LOLOL.

posted 07-15-2001 11:04 AM            

The energy has dropped, the number of posts, and guest list, all since he came back on board. Friend or no friend, this guy is poisioning this wonderful place with his hate and his low-brow tactics.(see NEANDERTHAL in the dictionary)
I am quite sure that a qualified shrink would find Cy a very classic example of some one with very low self esteem. Most bullies have this problem and many more as well.

This man is sick and needs professional help in the worst way. His posts are becoming more and more inflaming, hate filled,and completely off topic. Long triads explaining why he and only he, is the correct one, the teller of truth, our savior. SICK!
Now he is using his privledges to find addresses and locations and posting this fact. Threatening to come find individuals with whom he disagrees. Sick, Sick, Sick.

His vileness and hate have no bounds, he has no respect for women, authority or the truth.

He is the classic example of the Paranoid Schizopheric personality type: You and I are wrong, he is right. There is something wrong with you and I, not him. WE are crazy, not him. WE are against him. HE has the answers.
Cy do us all and yourself a favor. GET SOME PROFESSIONAL HELP BEFORE YOU SELF DESTRUCT.
Or a good lay, you seem tense.

posted 07-15-2001 11:11 AM               

Many of the various pilots I've run into both on and off the boards seem to be open-minded to, if not wholly convinced of, the reality of the UFO enigma.

I don't know if you've had a chance to check out Stephen Greer's Disclosure project, but there is some pretty amazing testimony from high-rankning military officials regarding the issue of secrecy and how it is maintained. I still think you're missing the complexity to which compartmentalization extends, but I'm not going to argue the point.

Instead I'm going to direct your attention to the use of 'Secrecy Oaths' and the National Security Act of 1947. Now, many of these highly credible witnesses who have stepped forward under the protection of the Disclosure Project have given detailed accounts of what happens to people who violate these illegal oaths.

Dead men tell no tales, Maverick. And you can't tell me that you are unaware of that political reality, as well.

Christy, I don't think LorieK or Thermit neccesarily need to explain the administrative funtions of their respective websites. You seem to have a great deal of interest in how other people are running their forums.

posted 07-15-2001 12:07 PM               

And why you're at it, delete me please.....(maybe I should have tried the "ask-nicely" approach in the first place). I've already deleted myself at Christy's board....and whoops....seems I WAS the board...sorry Christy.

You people win....I have no purpose here. but you are wrong about one thing....I don't hate anyone.....never did.

I just expressed what I truly think about chemtrails....about weather....about politics and life, and worst of all, about individuals who defend this country and my freedoms.

I expressed these things in the most honest way I know how...but if you can't believe the words on a message board that has no other means of communication....what can you believe?

Well it's over for me....Jay Reynolds and David must be right. My views make me a worthless human being who deserves to die....

so I think I'll just go kill myself now

posted 07-15-2001 01:14 PM               

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Swedishoo on 07-15-2001]

posted 07-15-2001 03:57 PM               

This will give Cy the public opportunity to explain his actions.

posted 07-15-2001 04:40 PM               

I will make another board. Hell, I'm used to having my board taken off-line. I'll just start up Chemtrail and Company III. You will be welcome to post, but don't ask for the keys.

PS I forgive you and love you, but I'm still mad at you.

posted 07-15-2001 06:58 PM               

The privileges which cydoniaquest spoke of were removed some time ago. A mistake of judgement in hindsight.

posted 07-15-2001 07:23 PM            

I've been gone for three days, which is why I'm posting out-of-the-blue. Christy, it appears to me that when Cy deleted himself from Chemtrail and Company II, he unintentionally deleted the board, too. (Remember when he tried to give you the reins of power, but AIMoo wouldn't let him?) I don't know if AIMoo can reconstitute Chemtrail and Company II, but I hope they can. You had a great board there, Christy, and for some reason it seemed to work okay for you, although it didn't for Chem11. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help you.