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Topic: Spinning our Wheels | Topic page views:
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Buzz
Senior Member
73 posts, Jul 2001
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posted 07-27-2001 07:00 PM
With all the concern, WHAT are we doing? Thermit readily admitted to my query, “Do you really believe that any faction of our gov. has any concern or control over the Chems”? via Email that:1. No I don't. 2. The point of the petition is public awareness. And the petition has served well in this regard. Who is not aware that would SIGN a petition on this very controversial topic? And if you are AWARE of the Chems, you MUST realize, it’s happening in their FACES as well as ours. THEY KNOW ABOUT IT! I SAY, LET’S HIT EM WHERE IT HURTS! 
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 07-27-2001 07:07 PM
Where would that be Buzz?
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Buzz
Senior Member
73 posts, Jul 2001
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posted 07-27-2001 07:17 PM
Glad you asked.In their FAT WALLETS. 
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Chem11
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The Homeland 1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 07-27-2001 07:22 PM
And how best to go about this course of action?
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Buzz
Senior Member
73 posts, Jul 2001
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posted 07-27-2001 07:24 PM
Glad you asked.It will be the individual(s) that must make for change. We are perpetuating our own demise, via the CHEMS, when we accept the propaganda that is self-serving to the ELITIST that control every aspect of OUR LIVES through the controlled media and the “Institutions of Ignorance Propagation” (Schools) 
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 07-27-2001 08:59 PM
I agree with this David Icke line of thinking and am now engrossed in the viewing of a most excellent tape which includes "Children of the Matrix" sent to me by a generous well-loved member here. The information needs to be digested bits at a time as it is overwhelming. True that it is individuals who must make a change Buzz, but how specifically can we break out of the ties that bind, and how yet can we hit their (elite) wallets? Please elaborate. 
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Buzz
Senior Member
73 posts, Jul 2001
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posted 07-27-2001 11:20 PM
OK, hang with me, just for a while, it may be somewhat painful, but what can we achieve with apathy?Dis-Information is the assertion a self-serving MOCK-TRUTH, which is totally false and without any hard scientific credibility. The public accepts the program, (heard it on the news, read it in a magazine, my doctor said, 60 minutes, Dateline, all riddled mind manipulating un-scientific DOGMA). With public opinion in their hands, truth is swept under the carpet. Truth does not SERVE their agenda. Truth empowers people to become accountable through credible/provable INFORMATION. They assert necessary illusions, with an agenda to undermine those who believe and follow, while concealing their decadent motives. They have always created the illusions of catastrophe, while selling us their snake-oils with pseudo-science. More to come...
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Buzz
Senior Member
73 posts, Jul 2001
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posted 07-28-2001 12:34 AM
Our so-called “American Way of Life” is substantiated through Information. This Information determines OUR Decisions and ultimately our QUALITY of LIFE. This cycle has resonated throughout Primates’ history. The WAY to make a change; is to change the INFORMATION that we allow to be SHOVED DOWN our wide-opened gustatory pathways. Then we will become aware of a different truth, a truth that serves the individual, a truth enveloped in Passion, Creativity and Empathy for each other. (Truth IS relative, not fixed and compartmentalized, as status quo would have it) We must LET GO of the Mind-Set of CONSUMPTION. We are ingesting the goods (Emotionally/Physically) that we are Programmed to deem NECESSARY through designed consent, perpetuated by and through belief systems to sustain the Elitist, that just take us to the cleaners, and their ILL-GOTTEN PROFITS to the Bank, while WE Acknowledge the tyranny and suck up the Chems. Acknowledgement is NOT activism; Movement is activism. Movement with a motive based on Truth, empirical or scientifically (repeatable) proven truth that has NO self-serving interest, than expounding on our own individualized consciousness/awareness. Then, only then will we make a Change. But is the Pain of Change, worse than the Pain we now Acknowledge? 
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Chem11
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The Homeland 1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 07-28-2001 12:56 AM
Sure. I'll buy that. I think what we're seeing right now is a move away from information being controlled by a small group of people and a move towards more legitimate dissemanation.I don't watch TV. I hardly read the newspaper, largely because of what I know to be the facts concerning the intelligence community's infilitration of both those mediums. Let's cut to the chase, Buzz. How do you propose to make a substantial economic difference that can be felt by these multi-national corporations and their controlling interests?
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Buzz
Senior Member
73 posts, Jul 2001
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posted 07-28-2001 01:20 AM
By slowly, very slowly breaking/changing the CONSUMPTION CYCLE of this self-serving RUSE: This will allow US/YOU/ME time to adjust and relinquish the myths and Delusions of Sanctuary, Psychologically, Emotionally and Physically. The inertia of decadence that has resided for so long will not be able to Compensate or Retaliate, and all we have done is “Let Go”. This IS Activism, Passive Activism, Their Worst Nightmare. By letting go, SLOWLY, we take away their Offense while Empowering our Defense. Retreat, and we will accrue Harmony.MILK/DAIRY, let it go “Milk Does a Body Good” is not SCIENCE. Milk IS DISEASE, Cow Pus, That’s what is allowed, a certain amount in every Gallon. There is NO, NONE AT ALL, ANY CREDIBLE STUDY PURPORTING that we need Milk in any way to experience Qualitative Health, in fact remember, they control us by ASSERTING THE OPPOSITE OF TRUTH. I CAN PROVE IT THROUGH SCIENCE, not commercial here-say. (Can you let it go for just 30 days?) The Dairy industry is HUGE and in collusion with the Pharmaceutical Cartels, the FDA and the AMA.

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Chem11
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The Homeland 1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 07-28-2001 01:35 AM
I don't drink milk. Or the fluorinated poison that our local water district dares to pass off as drinking water.Next? 
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Buzz
Senior Member
73 posts, Jul 2001
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posted 07-28-2001 01:44 AM
How vigilant Chem 11, but you do not resound the multitudes cravings for the insidious concoctions. You must find another vice to participate. 
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Chem11
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The Homeland 1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 07-28-2001 01:57 AM
You're going to tell me to give up meat, aren't you Buzz?Listen, I tried that. I didn't miss it and I felt more spiritually centered, but, I started to lose my edge. I'm a carnivore. I can't help it! 
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Buzz
Senior Member
73 posts, Jul 2001
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posted 07-28-2001 02:05 AM
Please, do not forecast such a ridiculous request. I said, ‘SLOWLY”. We need not experience want in our quest for truth.
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Chem11
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The Homeland 1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 07-28-2001 02:55 AM
Okay, fair enough. I'll quit forecasting! But for God's sake man, spit it out. If you've got an idea, let it fly...
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Buzz
Senior Member
73 posts, Jul 2001
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posted 07-28-2001 03:04 AM
FACT:The United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) has a milk ordinance governing milk safety. The USDA does not allow milk containing 750 million or more pus cells per liter to be shipped across state borders. That should be good news to milk drinkers. Last year, the average liter of milk in America contained only 323 million pus cells, according to Hoard's Dairyman, the dairy industry magazine. Author Jim Dickrell reports that the level of pus cells has been rising ever since farmers began using Monsanto's genetically engineered bovine growth hormone. Before approval (February 1994), the average pus cell count in milk was under 300 million cells per liter. By 1996, that average count had reached 307 million. In 1997, the average count was 313 million. Shall I spit again??? 
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 07-28-2001 03:32 AM
So what's the deal with the pus cells give or take a few million? How is that going to bring the cabals to their knees? Should we be launching a pus cells don't do a body good campaign? Anyone eat hot dogs? or should I say anyone eat chicken lips and assholes scrapped off the floor? There is a lot of crap that is consumed that is not fit for consumption. People don't care, it tastes good so they fill their pie holes. I'm just rambling now so I'm going to bed.
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Chem11
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The Homeland 1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 07-28-2001 03:37 AM
Well, if I did drink milk, I'd be feeeling a little nauseated right now.Yeeuuck! 
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amber
UK ENVOY

uk 445 posts, May 2001
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posted 07-28-2001 04:32 AM
I am with you Buzz I am nauseated...but with you! The whole NWO thing is partly about running the world as one big business...in order for it to be as powerful as they want - they need CONSUMERS!!! DON'T buy! That's power!!! I think though, Buzz, they know there will be a backlash to consumerism...so they are concentrating now on the things we can't do without...food, water, shelter, the air we breathe...they will have a monopoly in these areas soon...But sod it...we will be 5th dimensional soon and won't need these things  
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Buzz
Senior Member
73 posts, Jul 2001
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posted 07-28-2001 05:40 AM
Food, Water, Shelter, when have they not monopolized them? We can be 5th dimensional NOW. They are now and have always banked on our apathetic complacency and un-accountability. Their silver tongued, dissonant rhetoric has successfully quelled any altruistic attributes by “divide and conquer”. That cannot be explained away with their twisted semantics, while they defecate on our constitution.Less we lay down now, in hopes of transmutation?
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Buzz
Senior Member
73 posts, Jul 2001
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posted 07-28-2001 06:20 AM
Spinning my Wheels.Boycott the System that is now so arrogant and rife with deception. In all the Documentaries shown over the years regarding the Holocaust, I did not hear of any Jews, who having missed the morning muster had escaped to another dimension. Were they waiting for it all to “just go away”? We’re living in a science fiction novel. No, the fact is that if a book were to be released stating the FACTS, it would be debunked as pure heresy. Pus is not dangerous. Pus is rather delicious, especially when it's mixed with sugar and frozen, or bubbly hot atop marinara sauce and pizza. Fermented pus with acidophilus bacteria makes for a tasty breakfast, especially if jellied fruit preserves are mixed in. I used to enjoy Dannon's pus, but Brown Cow makes a brand where the saturated fat rises to the surface. Now, that's 'hearty' food! “Time for some Hot Cocoa”!

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RidesTheWind
visionary

The Void 1359 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 07-28-2001 06:58 AM
Buzz...I know where you're going but it still doesn't seem enough because we are so few in numbers. It will take not only not drinking milk, but not living the old way of life at all and thats where the discomfort for many comes in....No more electricity, no more Walmart shopping, no more driving cars and consuming gas, no more buying regular super market crap etc...We have tried when we started organic food.The grocery stores had none. I for one spent a year getting them to slowly bring in food,but everytime they did,weeks later they would say they couldn't get it anymore.Fed up with that we started our own co-op and eventually a healthfood store....Organics began growing by leaps and bounds...Just when we thought we had an edge,over the planes come...There is no longer any sort of organic food to eat.At the start is was questionable but better than nothing, now its non existent! So if we refuse to drive cars and take a bus to stop consuming Shrubs oilwells, they will find a way to overcome that too I would venture to guess.And again, the masses are so comatose the hope of waking them up is staggering.I have a huge stack of chemtrail flyers I keep in my car and pass out when I see an oportunity.Yesterday I was at the vets and it just so happened they were laying down the lines thick.I told the lady to be on the lookout for pets with unexplained illnesses and high counts of barium and aluminum and for her to watch out also and left. I would imagine she went out and looked after I drove away...The seed was planted,if it grows is up to her. I plastered the fliers on the inside of beach stall bathrooms etc...Its about all we can do for now as we play Johnny Appleseed and plod along.
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RidesTheWind
visionary

The Void 1359 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 07-28-2001 07:21 AM
I think we should compile a list of things we can do to start rebeling against the shadowland lies of brainwashing and once the list is complete I would hope Thermit would add it to the fourms list for new comers to read and contemplate...Thats a start but unfortunately its like singing to the choir I would think in here...Maybe shadowland visits more than I realize?
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Buzz
Senior Member
73 posts, Jul 2001
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posted 07-28-2001 07:22 AM
Nothing, no single action/non action can be now perceived as “enough”, if we dwell on the big picture. I have never achieved anything in my life by dwelling on the entire project. Chisel away at the non-essentials, a little at a time. This is a universal concept.It’s just ONE (1) thing, only one. Do this, however few we are, but do it. Consider a hypothesis: The LARGE will always be amenable to the small. Vegas doesn’t make their daily millions on ONE BIG GAMBLER do they? It is the many that dictate public opinion, and it is the many that re-enforce the dis-information once assimilated. Next I will ask you to cancel all of your insurance policies (well, let's keep the car going for now). I would not ask you if I were not able. Fear is our prime motivator and detractor. I cannot/will not live in fear of what if this or that happens. The great mistake is to anticipate the outcome, thinking of victory or defeat. Let nature takes its course, and your intrinsic truth will strike at the right moment.
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RidesTheWind
visionary

The Void 1359 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 07-28-2001 07:47 AM
I will agree that the main place to start is to first recognize how much fear we live in and then begin eliminating that fear.I think alot of folks need to find spirit first and discover the trust and belief in it first, for without that trust and deep knowing all will be right,the fear over rides the good intentions. One has to REALLY BELIEVE IN THEMSELVES,first! Belief and true intention is critical to this process.
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