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msswv123
Senior Member
Gastonia,NC USA
123 posts, Jan 2001
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posted 01-20-2002 11:24 AM
  
May be of interest to this thread:Double peaked solar max:
The most recent (and ongoing) Solar Max crested in mid-2000. Sunspot counts were higher than they had been in 10 years, and solar activity was intense. One remarkable eruption on July 14, 2000 -- the so-called "Bastille Day Event" -- sparked brilliant auroras as far south as Texas, caused electrical brown-outs, and temporarily disabled some satellites. After that, sunspot counts slowly declined and the Sun was relatively quiet for month-long stretches. Solar Max was subsiding.
>>But now, as 2002 unfolds, it's back. The Sun is again peppered with spots, and eruptions are frequent. Says David Hathaway, a solar physicist at the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center: "The current solar cycle appears to be double-peaked," and the second peak has arrived.<<
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/18jan_solarback.htm
Resurgent Sun.
www.spaceweather.com 
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roman
Senior Member
Marietta Ohio USA
407 posts, Sep 2000
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posted 01-20-2002 06:44 PM
I agree with you BOB something is just a little fubar when a gov offical send 's you a letter like that back. My Zone Alarm went nuts while reading your post so someone in intrested in what you have to say.roman...
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BOB B
Senior Member
LINDEN ,TEXAS,CASS
307 posts, Jan 2002
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posted 01-25-2002 12:17 AM
Our Sun is going through an obvious transition,all you have to do is let it shine on your skin or look at it to realize that undeniable fact, and these jokers at NASA and our beloved lapdog Federal government are somehow squelching the intellectual community from blowing the whistle on the greatest catastophe to ever befall mankind.What are "they" saving us for??Or are "they" as I suspect, completely aware of what is occuring and were prepared in advance, to ride it out, underground, and want to prevent the public "herd" from discovering "thier" underground complexes before a final catastrophe kills us all off Incidently,underground cities do exist by "thier" own admission!It was our struggle which will allow the elite to survive, they used our taxes to create thier private means of survival, and it is my belief it is thier intention to let us fry on the surface while they live in comfort in carefully engineered comfort below the ground-Kind of like a bad Star Trek episode, aint it??WELL, I FOR ONE AM NOT AMUSED, AND ALTHOUGH I FEEL MOST OF THE HUMAN RACE WILL PERISH ANYWAY,I DONT THINK THESE BASTARDS SHOULD SURVIVE AND LET US DIE WITHOUT EVEN TELLING US WE ARE BEING COOKED.We are being cooked, we are being exposed daily to highly elevated levels of radiation in almost all measurable wavelengths, and this fact is not being reported by any media I am aware of.Someone thinks im on to something, my Zone alarm is having a cow with intruder alerts every time I post. I hope this turns out better than I think it's going to, but I feel we are in for one hell of trip>
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Scanner
benign presence
Shreveport, LA
207 posts, Sep 2001
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posted 01-25-2002 12:42 PM
The sun is certainly acting up. Maybe it always has, but we just didn't have the technology to study it as closely before. At any rate, there does seem to be more activity than anyone expected...including NASA. As for the elite, they've always been there and they've always looked out for themselves at the expense of the "common" folk. That's never going to change. Can you say "Enron"!! Looks like we have choices to make. We can make like an ostrich and stick our heads in the sand, we can go along for the ride like sheep, or we can sit back and watch like owls and act when the opportunity arises. Hoooo...Hoooo
Scanner
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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!
Stamford, CT, USA
1750 posts, Dec 2001
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posted 02-01-2002 06:54 PM
I too have noticed that the sun is a lot brighter than I remembered it as a child. It is a lot whiter and harder on the eyes than it used to be. It is also much harder to look at the sky when it is filled with Chem clouds and Trails.
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roman
Senior Member
Marietta Ohio USA
407 posts, Sep 2000
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posted 02-01-2002 07:46 PM
I can see that we are on the same wavelenth on this thread.I have been on this earth for fifty years.I have spent a large part of those years outside.I have blond hair and blue eyes so I have always been sun sensitive.I don,t tan I burn so I always have plenty of clothes and sun screen ,hat sun glasses when I go outside.Yesterday we had record warm temps 75 degrees here in the Ohio valley I washed my car outside under partly overcast skys I wore a tee shirt and was only out there about a hour and thirty minuits.Today I have a slight sunburn on my face neck and arms.This is a first for me on the last day of January.roman...
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Deb
Senior Member
Plainfield, Indiana USA
163 posts, Oct 2001
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posted 02-01-2002 10:13 PM
Do y'all read the Science forum often?
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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!
Stamford, CT, USA
1750 posts, Dec 2001
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posted 02-02-2002 11:45 AM
The sun is definately brighter than it has been. I have been able to monitor the brigtness from inside, (believe it or not) an ancient solar observatory cave right here in Stamford CT. It seems that the ancient peple here circa 3000 BC were just as concerned with the workings of the sun as we are now. Beisdes being able to mark solstices and equinoxes, they were also able to monitor its brightness. Below is a link to my aol homepage if anyone is curious. One picture shows how they were able to monitor the suns brightness.I discovered it in 1992 and have been studying it ever since.
http://hometown.aol.com/mandannyrock/page10.html
[Edited 3 times, lastly by Dan Rockwell on 02-02-2002]
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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts
Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 02-02-2002 02:35 PM
That is just the neatest thing, Dan! I am amazed that people could build such an instrument out of quarried stones, and that somebody 6000 years later was able to figure out how to use it. You say you use it to measure the sun's brightness. How do you do that?
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KnewEyes
watcher
under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 02-02-2002 04:12 PM
Ok Dan you wore me down,,
Your property, and findings around it sound very interesting. I live close by and would like to see these places sometime if that would be ok with you..when it gets a bit warmer? Just promise you won't greet me swashbuckling a sword, while balancing a bantam ok? I think that would kinda scare me! lol, only kidding. Actually I really like bantams and when in the
proper "environment" one of my hobbies is hatching all different kinds of eggs, bantams included.
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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!
Stamford, CT, USA
1750 posts, Dec 2001
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posted 02-02-2002 04:40 PM
3T3L1, The brightess of the sun was measured by sighting the sun through an upside down V-notch from the interior of the cave. One picture shows a view of the sun as it appears when sighted through the notch. It wasn't easy to figure out how the whole thing worked. It took a good astronomical program, a number of computer simulations, and several direct observations to learn how to use it. KnewEyes, I'd be glad to show you the cave sometime. I usully don't carry my sword around with me. lol My pet rooster is an English Game bird but thinks he's a parrot.
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penumbra
quarky
North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 02-19-2002 08:00 AM
Here's a weird picture from www.spaceweather.com... 
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Scanner
benign presence
Shreveport, LA
207 posts, Sep 2001
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posted 02-19-2002 01:44 PM
What I want to know is which was is it headed? Hopefully away from us!
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KrissaTMC2
Never Surrender!
Greenwich, CT, USA
472 posts, Feb 2002
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posted 02-19-2002 06:38 PM
Now that is really bad looking. Those are definitely flares and luckily they ain't headed in our direction. I have to kind of wonder though, if we would really know if one was headed right at us especially an X-CLASS or greater flare. Would it appear to be a ball of light hurtling out of the sun steadily growing in size as it rapidly approached us or totally catch us by surprise? Believe me, I don't want to find out.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by KrissaTMC2 on 02-19-2002]
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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!
Stamford, CT, USA
1750 posts, Dec 2001
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posted 02-20-2002 11:37 AM
I hate to frighten you Krissa but here is what we've been picking up from that Solar monitor that BOB B told us to use. (Right here I had an image of the Solar X-ray graph showing all the M CLASS flare activity, but oh well.)
http://206.131.246.33/sun/noaa.html Just look at the X-Ray Flux graph.
The readings were Solar X-Rays:M CLASS FLARE Geomagnetic:Quiet at the time of the original posting and I'm still seeing the same readings as of this edit on 2/22/02 at 12:30 AM
[Edited 3 times, lastly by Dan Rockwell on 02-21-2002]
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penumbra
quarky
North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 02-21-2002 06:50 AM
Dan, could you try to fix that picture? Or just put up a link to it?
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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!
Stamford, CT, USA
1750 posts, Dec 2001
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posted 02-21-2002 11:54 PM
Sorry about that penumbra, the hyperlink wasn't stable and the displayed graph kept disappearing. I kind of forgot that she has the same information as I do, but wasn't sure if she bothered to look at the Solar Flux data showing how numerous the M CLASS FLARES really were.
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Planetmann
New Member
Irvine, CA USA
14 posts, Mar 2002
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posted 03-07-2002 10:42 AM
I haven't read through all of this thread, although it is very interesting. But I did read of someone getting sunburned in January. I just wanted to say that about a week ago, on a sunny, but seasonally low sun angle day, I got fried while being outside for only about two hours. I was really suprised, as I do a lot of sailing and don't usually get burned at all! I do use sunscreen, but didn't on this particular day, as it was a business function and I hadn't expected to be outside. I burned far more than I would expect in February. Thanks
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Planetmann
New Member
Irvine, CA USA
14 posts, Mar 2002
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posted 03-07-2002 11:17 AM
Just out of curiosity, I emailed my favorite weather site and this is the interesting response I got. Here is a meterologist, who no doubt has interest in atmospheric phenomena, yet his "reading of the scientific literature published on the subject has shown nothing to warrant serious attention be paid to the matter." Hmmm... As follows: Original Message:
From: Planetmann
Subject: Full coverage?
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 16:17:41 -0800 With all the atmospheric information your site provides, why is there
nothing about ChemTrails? These are occurring all over the country,
clouding ATC radar screens and people are complaining about feeling sick
when they occur. The Air Traffic Controllers are wondering what is up…
how
about you? What is up? Does your site have anything to say about this? Are you
allowed to, or are you supposed to be quiet, as so many others seem to be! Will you reply??? Thanks, His response: Hi, My reading of the scientific literature published on the subject has shown
nothing to warrant serious attention be paid to the matter. YOu might take
a look at http://www.straightdope.com/columns/000616.html for an
interesting viewpoint on the matter. Thanks,
Jeff M. ---------------------------
Dr. Jeff Masters (jmasters@wunderground.com)
Chief Meteorologist
The Weather Underground, Inc.
300 N Fifth Ave #240
Ann Arbor, MI 48104
734-994-8824
http://www.wunderground.com Check out "straightdope" and you'll wonder why people read it! Is Cecil Adams an old subject ya all know about? Thanks
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penumbra
quarky
North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 03-11-2002 06:54 AM
Hi Planetmann! The sun's so bright I gotta wear shades. A whole group of friends got fried at the beach Saturday. Almost a purple color burn. Yikes.
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penumbra
quarky
North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 03-16-2002 09:52 AM
Yikes!!! 
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KnewEyes
watcher
under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-14-2002 07:08 PM
Does anyone else notice the sun is setting in the northwest tonight?
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Bonehead9
Senior Member
suburb of Chicago, IL US
176 posts, May 2002
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posted 05-14-2002 08:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by KnewEyes:
Does anyone else notice the sun is setting in the northwest tonight?
Yes!! It's a plot by the Canadians to tilt the Earth on its axis so that the vast frozen lands of the north will become a temperate paradise, thus increasing the property value one hundred fold! 
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 05-14-2002 09:17 PM
Now that you mention it KnewEyes, I notice.
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ophello
New Member
Eugene, OR
22 posts, Jan 2002
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posted 05-14-2002 10:29 PM
the sun is more than a year PAST the 11-year peak. activity is still increasing. there is more here we'll have to deal with than i think anyone can appreciate yet.  including me.
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