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Topic:   Does the Sun look the same to you?

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BobB
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LInden,Texas,United states of America
67 posts, Jul 2001

posted 08-03-2001 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BobB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just wanted to post this to see if anyone else had noticed changes in the appearance of the Sun,and sunlight and if so if they noticed the same thing I did. My obsevation is a brigher, whiter looking sun than I remember in my childhood.Is this caused by chemtrals, or are chemtrails a result of the changing sun???any input appreciated

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Delphi
Mystic Warrior


S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 08-03-2001 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BobB, Sure have noticed a definite change in the appearance of the sun. I feel like, the past year or two, it does seem extra, extra bright, and very white all the time...hardly ever the big orange orb I remember it to be...can only glimpse really fast of course with strong sun-glasses on, but when glimpsing, it seems to have "silver-white" brite patches to it that almost seem like they are moving at the center...probably an optical illusion...I wonder if the chems could be trying to "filter" the extra strong and harmful rays from getting to earth...yet, I still have some of the "conspiracy type doubts" as to other reasons for chems...but, regardless, the sun really doesn't seem the same. The past 2 yrs., all my plants seem to "shrivel" more inspite of watering and care and often, they look "burned", either by heat or chemicals??? My yard has been invaded by pastel color mushrooms, (no, I haven't been munching)...the trees and grass seem to be suffering from something...heat or chemicals or...? The 11 year solar Max we are having seems more active and severe than others in the past...more powerful CME's and solar storms and such. Blessings, Joanne ^j^

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roman
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Marietta Ohio USA
407 posts, Sep 2000

posted 08-03-2001 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No it does not. Too bright ,wrong color,strange sunsets that are too bright to observe as we did in the past. Sunset at mallory in Keywest is much brighter then it ever was in the past this year. I think that Bob is on the right track. roman

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BobB
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LInden,Texas,United states of America
67 posts, Jul 2001

posted 08-06-2001 02:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BobB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Solar flux satellite data. ................... http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/xray_1m.html

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Thermit on 08-06-2001]

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Delphi
Mystic Warrior


S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 08-06-2001 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BobB, Thanx for the solar info. Wow, it is "creepy" wondering just how far the Solar upheaval is going to progress this cycle. They keep saying this 11 yr. cycle has been the "worse" one since records were being kept on such...I sure hope our "star" isn't going to go "Medievil" on our butts! So much occurring in the Heavens lately that give one pause for thought! Seems like "fire-ball" reports on a daily basis anymore...chemtrails....ufo sightings....red rain and "corn husk rain"...what next?? Popcorn?/...if the sun heats us up to much? Blessings, Love, and light, and prayers, from Joanne ^j^

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001

posted 08-07-2001 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This solar cycle is waayyyyy beyond a regular 11 -year peak. Those intensely bright spots that you see are actually sunspots. I have read a lot of information in the Solwatch section of cyberspaceorbit during the past year or so. Even though the sun has done its magnetic flip, the solar activity has not died down. I don't think anyone even knows what IS going on with our Star.

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Delphi
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S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 08-07-2001 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Penumbra, It is just too "weird" as far as the sun goes...and your right, this so-called 11 year cycle is not being active in the same amount of time as others, I'd bet...maybe a scientist would say no to that...but, I've always been interested in sky-watching and what occurs there, and I don't remember the sun even looking like it does lately. To me, it really does look different and unusual. I like Kent Steadmans Cyberspaceorbit site too...he always has lots of interesting and "far-out" info and articles and pictures in there...plus, he sounds like a pretty cool ole fart...Blessings and Love, Joanne ^j^

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BobB
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LInden,Texas,United states of America
67 posts, Jul 2001

posted 08-18-2001 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BobB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im telling ya, folks, right here is the amswer to the mystery,and its getting worst every day... From Space weather.com- http://www.spaceweather.com/index.html RADIATION STORM: The flux of high-energy protons around our planet soared to 1000 times normal on August 16th. The ongoing S2-class solar radiation storm is unusual because it was not triggered by a major flare on the Earth-facing side of the Sun. Instead, it appears to be the result of a backside explosion detected by SOHO coronagraphs on August 15th.

Above: NOAA satellites registered a sharp increase in the numbers of energetic solar protons around Earth on Aug. 16.


IMPACT! The leading edge of a coronal mass ejection that billowed away from the Sun on August 14th struck Earth's magnetosphere August 17th at ~10:30 UT (3:30 a.m. PDT). The impact triggered an ongoing G2-class geomagnetic storm. Sky watchers as far south as Sacramento, CA, spotted auroras Friday morning, and there might be more to come! (continued below)

Above: NASA's ACE spacecraft detected an interplanetary shock wave just before it reached Earth on Aug. 17, 2001.

The interplanetary magnetic field in the vicinity of our planet spent much of Aug. 17th pointing south -- a condition that renders Earth's magnetosphere vulnerable to solar wind gusts and improves

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Delphi
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S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 08-18-2001 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BobB, "Here comes the sun"...I hope not literally! Like is mentioned, it isn't going to "blow" but it sure is "shooting" a lot of "power" around and at earth...it is kinda "creepy" just the same...I wonder if more skin cancer is going to start showing up real soon?...As long as we still have skin anyways. If skin cancer statistics go way up, that'll be a pretty good indicator that the sun is doing a number on us anyway. Bless us all! Joanne ^j^

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Delphi
Mystic Warrior


S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 08-18-2001 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BobB, Yikes, You may be right after all! Go directly to http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com after you read this...scroll the entire page, as there is news for Aug. 16,17,18 all mixed in all the way down. The gist being, the news of the sun does sound worse than originally was reported...protons moving faster than ever have...like about light speed, and there will be effects....EM, and maybe the sun activity is causing the world-wide earthquake activity reported tonite at Cyberspaceorbit also....extreme happenings in Russia, China, Texas showing some activity. all over the world, "shaker" events being reported!! Double creepy!! I hope this isn't the big "dealy". I better not say, RTW says thoughts can become reality, but anyway, looks like "Mother Earth" is into some "Rock N' Roll" right now! Bless us all! Joanne ^j^

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BobB
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LInden,Texas,United states of America
67 posts, Jul 2001

posted 08-18-2001 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BobB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it might be time to dig a hole, a deep one, with provisions for a long time and perhaps try to ride it out....what thier not telling you is high energy protons penetrated the Earths natural shield and the magnetic fields in the solar system are fluxuating wildly.Ultra violet spectrum off the scale used to measure it, because readings were never predicted to go this high.What it amounts to is an unprecedented and worsening solar event which may end life on Earth

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Delphi
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S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 08-18-2001 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BobB, It certainly dosen't look good...the solar upheaval, (the solar wind actually stopping a while back which has never happened as far as we know), and the recent upsurge in earthquakes, volcanoes, "freaky" weather...things definitely looking "shakey". I hope and pray that things "settle down" and we all live happily ever after....will see. Take care Bob. If all bets are off, we got to know some nice people here and elsewhere through the years, that, and any good memories, and our spirit and soul, we can never loose. Good luck to you and yours cause if you're right...oh boy! Blessings and prayers for us all! Joanne ^j^ ^j^ ^j^ Angels for us all! J.

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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 08-19-2001 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like to echo Lulu's question about the reference to the solar wind stopping...in 99' ?

I know the solar minimun was in 94' to 96' and if there was a stoppage, or if it was even possible, seems that would have been the time...but again a reference would be good readin'

Current solar activity :

T/S

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Delphi
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S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 08-19-2001 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll have to "snoop" around in the archives at Kent Steadmans http://cyberspaceorbit.com to find info on it but the one I'm aware of was just this year...and it was quite remarkable and unsettling. I'll go and look through there, as I think that is where I saw it mentioned...if not, I'll have to "snoop" all my weird ole "haunts" til I find it...might be a while. Blessings and love, Joanne ^j^

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Delphi
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S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 08-19-2001 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
T/S, Did you see the data Bob has up on the thread...."Solving the Chemtrails Mystery, (probably)"...He mentions the Solar wind stoppage there and has data provided also. Blessings, Joanne ^j^

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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 08-19-2001 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm...no I did not Delphi...I'll go take another peek...sometimes when links are scattered in text I miss them....

I posted one of these that was really huge a while back, but here's the cme from the 14th:

T/S

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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 08-19-2001 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wicked! Thanks seeker.

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Delphi
Mystic Warrior


S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 08-19-2001 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
T/S, Here's a site that has lots of info about the solar wind dealy...It didn't stop totally, but to an astounding degree, it was way down. http://www.best.com/~handpen/Bios/comes.htm I hope I got it right. A web search for Solar Wind Stop eventually spit out some sites about it also. I can't stand the guy who runs the site because of personal run in, but he does have very excellent sites and info...no denying that. Good luck, Blessings all, Joanne ^j^ P.S. I could have swore I heard "other" solar wind event that was more recent, but guess not. J.

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Delphi
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S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 08-19-2001 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry guys, This link should do it better...the top of page has topic about solar wind stoppage to access to besides many other excellent topics, I hope this one does it, http://www.handpen.com/Bio/ss.htm Fingers crossed. Blessings, Jo

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Delphi
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S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 08-19-2001 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I Got It..it works! Jo The link, I mean!

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001

posted 08-23-2001 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think the sun looks the same at all, and I don't mean by simple observation. I have pored through older pictures of the sun and they do not look like this:

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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts


Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 08-23-2001 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Penumbra, one of the reasons that picture looks scary is that it was taken in the wavelength of soft x-rays (~1-200Å). Here is a picture showing how the sun currently looks when you view it through a conventional telescope at a typical visual wavelength of 6767Å.



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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001

posted 08-24-2001 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks 3T3. I usually look at all of the solar data, and I have looked at the NOAA archives as well. That picture is a little scarier than most! but I do think that something is going on with our Star. Beyond the scope of a 22-year cycle.

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afraidofsunlight
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Balto.,Md.
100 posts, Jan 2001

posted 08-28-2001 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for afraidofsunlight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Total saturation.
Ionized metal particulate matter.

The sun is still yellow.
It's the air you breath that has been forever changed.

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Moonstar
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61 posts, Apr 2001

posted 08-29-2001 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you know that the sun has weather patterns similar to the earth? The superheated jet streams were detected by instruments aboard the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) a spacecraft jointly operated by the European Space Agency and NASA. Here's some links:
http://www.cnn.com/TECH/9708/28/river.of.sun

Giant convective cells found on the Sun http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/ast28may98_1.htm

Ephemeral Auroras Increase Due to Solar Storm Activity http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/planetearth/auroras_000509.html

Race to recover the Sun probe lost in space http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/publications/TELEGRAPH/wsoho27.html

The other Y2k problem: solar storms http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2267998,00.html

Why do you think there is all this interest by governments in the WEATHER of the sun. Is the sun's weather to be included in owning the weather by 2025? Also all this proliferation of electromagnetic weaponry is affected by solar flares. Can't have that.

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