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Topic: DS4 summer updates/Air Force response!! | Topic page views:
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Delphi
Mystic Warrior
S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 08-21-2001 09:04 PM
   
IZAKOVIC has updated his wonderful site and has "summer-time" chemtrail photos, Bossier, Louisiana up-dates on chems and anomalous craft, August letters from Louisiana Congressman Jim McCrery and also letter response from Dept. of the Air Force from Lt. Col. Ralph S. Dobbs, Deputy Chief, Congressional Inquiry Division/Office of Legislative Liaison. Congressman McCrery did his best to sincerely and honestly approach the chemtrail issue. The Air Force response was very interesting...longer than I thought it would be, and strangely familiar...(UFO denial response)!!! Interesting that 2 other "agencies" are mentioned in reference to the atmosphere and weather experiments!!Here is, http://deepspace4.50megs.com/pages,main/main1.htm June thru Aug. image index, http://deepspace4.50megs.com/pages/chemtrails/bossier/bossier20011.htm The Air Force letter is, http://deepspace4.50megs.com/pages/chemtrails/bossier/USAFletter/USAFletter160801.htm Blessings and best regards. Joanne/Delphi ^j^  
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RidesTheWind
visionary
The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 08-21-2001 09:46 PM
One thing for sure...If this chemtrail deal ever did have its day in court we at least have the lies on paper! Big bold lies!Thanks for your efforts Jo...Its all we can do.Just keep on trying every chance we get.Our time will shine!
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Chem11
megasprayer news
The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 08-21-2001 09:50 PM
Perhaps the oh-so-sincere congressman could EXPLAIN why, if NASA and the NOAA are 'charged' with investigating the effects of contrails on the atmosphere, he is forwarding a response from the USAF?Perhaps he could also explain why these ponderous ultra-persistent trails are only emitted by military aircraft. It certainly was a 'self-explantory' report from Mr. DOBBS, to be sure. Utterly evasive and completely nonsensical.
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Delphi
Mystic Warrior
S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 08-22-2001 12:02 AM
Chem11, You're right....He was "Shine-in me on"...I guess he sent my dealy to the Air Force cause I included a long "flier" from the now defunct Chemtrails sites...a local,Ark-La-Tex chem group that had clear references and accusations made specifically directed at the Air Force. But you are right, I wasn't at all satisfied to the response compared to what it could have and should have been! The Air Force guy says Chems are a hoax yet names 2 other agencies that are in charge of our atmosphere, and weather, like passing the buck sounding...hmmm. Sorta like the Air Force UFO denial.....Ufos don't exist and they pose not threat to national security...that was about as stupid a comment as ya could get....except for the equally stupid Air Force one about the chems...hoax my a**. My eyes were so swollen and sore as was my throat and skin rashed up this weekend really bad from their "Hoax"! Blessings, Joanne ^j^
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Delphi
Mystic Warrior
S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 08-22-2001 03:13 AM
Chem11, The more I re-read the Congressmans response, the madder I get! What I'm going to do is not let him off the hook or let it drop. I am going to send another, longer, less "folksie, friendly letter" as this matter about the chems has yet to be addressed or investigated properly. You should read what Lo at Chem.track.USA has to say. She composed a great letter for any of us to use as follow up to the esteemed Congressmans efforts and I like the letter...couldn't have composed one so eloquently so I am going to take her up on it and send the idiot another! Folks over at that site are hoppin mad. Thanx for "calling me one it" Chem 11, as I was kinda "wimpy" in reference to it...and ya'll know how "Un-wimpy" I can be when I put my mind to it so I will!! I was hoping not to alienate McCrery but his input and help was no big deal or good result so it's time to "Rock N' Roll" I guess and say more to him that should be said. And I don't understand why the Air Force made not a ONE comment to my "tag-along" plane picture I enclosed...aerodynamically, not possible...one exactly behind the other...that never even got addressed. Or the pics of various "anomalous" craft that showed up in proximity of trails...none of it got explained....Those butt holes! I'm glad I'm taking myself off of the Army Docs prescription of Prozac...I feel more alert and energertic and less "bogged down" and "fogged-down" already. I'm just glad I have folks here that help me "see the light" when I do "slip up" or miss something! (I'm not gettin older, I'm getting better!)...right? McCrery presents himself so well in the media and "seems" like a genuinely nice guy, I got fooled....don't know much about politics...I suppose they all do that...seem genuine while they really aren't worth a poop! Thanx again Chem. Blessings, Joanne ^j^ P.S. I still feel like the Navy and/or NSA behind a big part of the chem scenario...from investigating ufos for so long, I have learned that the Navy has much more to do with our skies and ufo retievals, investigations, etc....more so than many folks realize...tho, the Air Force cover-up a lot of the ufo events too...no doubt about that. J.
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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts
Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 08-22-2001 09:51 AM
Here's a word of unsolicited advice from somebody who gets to deal with bureaucrats all the time. (And that's who you'll be dealing with, not the Congressman himself.)Be professional and businesslike in your response. Also try to be concise. The way you get anyplace with bureaucrats is, you wear 'em down with letter after letter of that kind. If you have the stomach for it, check out Jay Reynolds' site--the part which tells you how he asked the EPA about the sample Clifford Carnicom sent them. You'll notice Jay didn't use any of his trademark colorful language in his correspondence. He patiently worked his way through a long chain of bureaucrats until he got what he wanted. I know you well enough to know you have the persistence needed, Joanne, so I'll just wish you good luck and happy hunting!
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 08-22-2001 09:57 AM
...and I've heard that snail-mail is better than e-mail when nagging the congress-critters...
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Delphi
Mystic Warrior
S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 08-22-2001 01:39 PM
Thanx guys for the "tips", advice, and ideas in reference to how to more successfully go about this situation. I did actually write a long, snail mail letter and enclosed some chem pictures, chemplane pictures, articles on chems, and the Ark-La-Tex flier about chems and sent it out to him in a big manila envelope. I'm gonna send more manila envelopes chocked full of good stuff and I'm not gonna drop the ball for sure. I like the letter Lo composed and can incorporate some of her ideas in with mine. I'll try to be as civilized and lady-like and courteous in my responses as I can, but un-relenting. Lo put up his email addy too but as Thermit said,....real letters are much better but I'll use the email too. Maybe if they get bombarded enough, they'll "take notice" finally and get off their fat rump butts and do something!! I hope and pray so. Thanx about the suggestions. The main thing now is to keep at it...sounds like a good and sensible plan! Blessings all, Joanne ^j^
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