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Topic: another way to view the saturation of our sky | Topic page views:
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Phil
Senior Member
Wisconsin 30 posts, Sep 2000
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posted 09-06-2001 08:32 PM
Wed. night I was sitting on my porch watching the moon rise. I have no outside lights, so it is good and dark the sky was very clear and still. I use a Kodak DC215 zoom digital camera, I started taking a few shots as the moon started to peek over the trees. In my peripheral vision I could see what appered to be millions of VERY REFLECTIVE particals being illuminated by the the flash. It looked like a metalic snow storm, I repeated this flash many times, and every time I did it, the realization kept sinking in further, that with every breath we take adds untold metals to our systems.Try this and post your findings. the reflective particals did not show up on the recorded image. This really needs to stop! ------------------ Best Wishes Phil 
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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts

Lubbock, Texas 1347 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 09-06-2001 08:44 PM
Phil, are there any atmospheric scientists at UW in Madison that you could ask about this? They might have some data on what you are seeing, or they might have suggestions on how you could take a sample and get it analyzed.
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padawan-learner
Senior Member
Canada 105 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 09-06-2001 09:12 PM
Thanks for the tip Phil....sadly, due to the massive spraying I rarely get a good glimpse of the moon anymore. I have seen the 'sky sparklies' around the sun. Disturbing. You're right...it must stop. Will it though? That is the question.
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Stephen Schillinger
New Member
Enfield, Connecticut, USA 9 posts, Aug 2001
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posted 09-06-2001 10:02 PM
Very Interesting discovery. I have an idea tell me what ya think. What if on a really heavy trail day we set up kind of an air induction system. Maybe like a very large hydrolicly powered fan " like the type you would find on a well drilling rig" but set it up with a minimal micron filter at the intake. I think that by doing this late at night their would be a minimum of dust from day to day activity the fan I`m refering to sucks in aprox 60,000 cubic ft pr Hr. A couple of hrs. should capture alot of stuff maybe enough to anilize in the lab. ------------------ Sky Watcher 
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Catnip57
Senior Member

Central Washington 527 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 09-07-2001 01:04 AM
Stephen... sorry to get cut off from our chat conversation... my server gets nasty sometimes and gives me the boot. I hope you'll post the information you told me about seeing the particles thru the welders helmet.. it really sounds like a good way to see them and others would like to know about that I'm sure.. 
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eyesopen
This Space For Rent
Ventura CA 627 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 09-07-2001 01:11 AM
Please do tell!
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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts

Lubbock, Texas 1347 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 09-07-2001 01:18 AM
In spite of the claims of Clifford Carnicom, and the particles he has collected on HEPA filters in his yard, the fact that particles are observed at ground level doesn't prove that they came out of airplanes in the sky. Even a correlation with spray plane activity isn't enough. You have to collect samples at altitude, as they're being sprayed (not popular with the FAA) or do Fourier Transform Infra Red spectroscopy with a telescope before you have proof.  
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Stephen Schillinger
New Member
Enfield, Connecticut, USA 9 posts, Aug 2001
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posted 09-07-2001 02:04 AM
As I was telling Catnip 57 you can see chem trails through awelding helmut differently. Much differently! I use an auto dark helmut with the helmut set on #15 they show up best I don`t know a darn thing about spectrscopy but I do know what I see. and I see it almost every day If you look at the welding arce without a shield you see mostly blue or purple. with it turns green and white somehow it makes it more visble I`ll leave it up to you more scientific types to explain it to me lets work together to end the trails.sfssruffy. Sky Watcher
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eyesopen
This Space For Rent
Ventura CA 627 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 09-07-2001 02:10 AM
What are you using as the light source and where do you look? It's not the sun? What are the colors you are explaining? Sometimes it takes me a while to catch on to things.....
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