posted 10-22-2001 02:50 PM            

Now that I am in control of my own mind, and ultimately my free will, I'm telling all that I've witnessed and experienced behind the scenes as a White House/Pentagon level mind controlled slave.

nor this one :

In 1983, Senator Byrd ordered that I attend a White House cocktail party, and he acted in the capacity of a pimp, and prostituted me to then president Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan, as you all well know, is an actor, and he was acting to create an illusion of something entirely different to the American populace, while behind the scenes he was very much involved in implementing New World Order controls and eroding our constitutional values.

so Reagan was using whores in the whitehouse ???

I heard Ronald Reagan say to then Prime Minister Brian Mulroney of Canada, who was also involved in this New World Order effort, that he believed the only way to world piece was through mind control of the masses.

sorry...this is hearsay and trash, conjured up by an extremely disillusioned woman....

if you buy into it...well...that's your problem...

posted 10-23-2001 05:15 AM            

Have you ever heard of False Memory Sydrome? It actually pops often in cases of accussed sexual and physical abuse of children. Maybe you should do ALL the research before jumping on anyone else's case.

As an example:

quote:

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Learned MPD

Editor's Comment: Many former patients have described becoming dependent on their therapists. That is one feature of the following excerpt from a report
by Lauri.

I was not the only MPD patient. My therapist had a group of five women participating in this dysfunctional, cult-like treatment. Our therapist was using mind games to
control us and convince us he was the only person who could help us. In "private", he would drop comments about the other MPD "girls." As patients, we became very
competitive and jealous of each other.

I was especially jealous of one woman who was very pretty. He had made sexual advances toward one of her sexiest alters, and I was convinced he was infatuated
with her. He would play his guitar and sing for her, but never me. He compared the two of us and said we were very much alike. He often confused our names which
made me feel hurt. I wanted him to like me in the way he liked her.

I clearly understood the sickest patient received the most attention. So, I devised behavior that would get his attention: act like a five-year-old, come intoxicated to my
session, threaten him with a knife, or even attempt suicide. Everyone of us in the support group were in some way in love with our psychologist.

I wanted to be the best. I became a model MPD patient and exhibited all the right traits. I learned MPD and let it in, but soon it took control of my mind and body.

The doctor decided I needed five to seven years of therapy. He explained to me and my husband, "Because Lauri now has MPD behavior, it follows that she had MPD.
Thus, some terrible abuse in her childhood must have caused it. So terrible that she's repressed those memories deep in her mind. With my help, the alters will reveal the
abuse, then she'll remember her own experiences. Finally, she will work through those old feelings and get better."

This is about the time he raised his rates to $120 per hour.

We bought it, and I worked hard to recall repressed memories. Of course, there were no real memories, but the mind is an amazing thing. Let me explain, in lay terms,
how repressed memories were created on one occasion. The therapist called-up Beth, a 5-year old alter, and hypnotized her. He suggested sexual abuse had occurred at
the hands of her Daddy. He explained she needed to see a "big movie screen" in her mind and tell him what she saw. Then, he asked leading questions about touching,
etc. Beth performed just as the therapist predicted she would. Beth and I were rewarded with much attention and sympathy.

In reality, I didn't have those memories, but the doctor considered them true and wanted more. For months, I allowed other alters to write anything they could remember.
The memories grew worse and worse and I became horrified. I thought it was all true, and I felt worthless and betrayed.

I recalled various fragments of movies, books, talk shows, and nightly news, and soon I had plenty of child abuse memories. But, it didn't stop there. Eventually, I said I
had taken part in Satanic Rituals, been buried alive, drank blood, and helped to kill a baby. With every new memory, my therapist was intrigued and building a case to
prove he was right about me all along. I was rewarded with his attention to me and was his "best" patient. But, I started to have feelings of death and became suicidal.

I truly exhibited all the MPD symptoms even though I had learned them. Control of my mind, emotions, and will was given to the personalities the therapist had
empowered.
http://www.fmsfonline.org/retract1.html#jan94

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Just my $0.02.

posted 10-23-2001 12:33 PM            

Movies have mentioned this on the surface only. Movies like: "Manchurian Candidate" Mind Field, Disturbing Behaviour, Conspiracy Theory and others.

posted 10-24-2001 03:29 AM            

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Just my $0.02.

posted 10-26-2001 04:38 PM            

'In Walter Laqueur's book 'The Terrible Secret' about the Holocaust - Despite details of the Nazis' systematic extermination of the Jews having been made available to the wider world, few believed it to be true. Even when a Polish eyewitness, Jan Karski, told the prominent Judge Frankfurter about what he had witnessed first-hand, the judge was UNABLE to believe him. This was not an account of what someone else had seen, but Karski's own sworn personal testimony. Judge Frankfurter's response was that he was not suggesting that Karski was not telling the truth, but that he was UNABLE to believe him'

posted 11-27-2001 02:47 AM            

Will it take another forty years before
we learn the truth about all of the
"Commerce and Freedom" that's
mucking up the atmospehre ??

The paper is the Chicago Tribune.
October 23, 2001
page 7 - section 1

War On Terror
U.S. Bioweapons Research

U.S. admits secret tests on unwary sailors.

Nerve agents, bacteria sprayed on
ships in 1960s

By Mark Pazniokas and Thomas D. Williams
Special to the Tribune

He kept the secret for 30 years. The former Navy skipper told no one about the
classified tests of Project Shad, how the Marine jets came screaming out of the night off a remote Pacific atoll, spraying a 100 mile-long aerosol cloud over his five tugboats.

Then Jack Alderson's men started getting sick.

"Some of the guys tried to go to the Pentagon or the American Legion and said, "I did biological warfare testing." They basically threw them out, told them they were crazy," said Alderson, many of whose former crew complain of chronic respiratory problems. "They told them, "We didn't do things like that."

Now, after seven years of inquiries from veterans, Crongress and the Department of Veterans Affairs, the Pentagon has confirmed that thousands of sailors were present during a decade-long series of classified tests to determine the vulnerability of U.S. warships to attack by chemical and biological warfare.

In a series of "fact sheets" given to veterans hospitals and organizations last month, the Pentagon acknowledged that some of the tests involved spraying live biological weapons over U.S. ships, including Alderson's tugs.

Pentagon officials say nerve agents such as sarin and VX gas also were used, but they refuse to disclose where, when and how.

Other tests involved exposure to "simulalnts, "relatively harmless microbes and chemical markers used as stand-ins for a potentially deadly biological agent that resonates so powerfully today: anthrax

More than a dozen ships were used in the Pacific and Atlantic from 1960 to 1970. For some ships and crews the involvement was brief; for others it was a full-time assignment lasting years.

In the tests, Marine bombers sprayed simulants or live biological agents. Then the ships passed through the resulting cloud and collected air samples. In some tests, caged monkeys were placed on deck and lated tested to determine whether they had inhaled the material.

Sailors Subjected to "Hot Tests"

In the "hot tests," involving live biological warfare agents, the sailors took shelter in compartments rigged with positive-pressure ventilation designed to prevent the test material from infiltrating the ships.

Other precautions included inoculations for rabbit fever and Q fever, two of the illnesses caused by the biological weapons employed, Pasteurella tularensis and Coxiella burnetti.

"the crews who participated ....were not test subjects, but test conductors," according to the fact sheets.

The Pentagon says no health problems have been linked to the tests, but the veterans say no one has ever looked. A dozen test veterans interviewed in recent weeks including a former medical services officer, say they never were examined for exposure to the test material in the 1960s or monitored later.

"I've had some concerns, respiratory problems like the others," said Norman LaChapelle, the former medical officer, "you go to the VA, a good physician will ask you, "What was your work?" Most of us until now couldn't say."

One former tug skipper has cancer of the esophagus. Another officer died after developing fibrous growths in his lungs. Dozens of others have varing degrees of respiratory problems, according to Alderson and others. One former skipper, who did not want to be quoted by name, said he colllapsed and was critically ill for 18 days shortly after his Pacific service. Navy doctors, who were not told of his involvement in the secret program, never did diagnose the cause of his collapse.

The veterans say they are more concerned about the risks posed by powerful cleansing agents used to decontaminate their ships than they are about the biological warfare agents. Some of the cleansing agents now are suspected of causing cancer.

The recently released fact sheets detail only three series of tests, done in 1963 and 1965 under the code names "Autumn Gold," "Shady Grove" and "Copper Head." They are only a fraction of the tests conducted as part of Shad, an acronym for "shipboard hazard and defense."

The three fact sheets are three pages each. They represent nearly a year's work searching archives and synthesizing records by a team led by Dee Dodson Morris, a chemical weapons expert who holds a position meant to underscore the Pentagon's new openness about chemical and biological warfare. Her title is director of lessons learned.

The post was created after Persian Gulf war veterans spent a frustrating decade seeking information about chemical and biological weapons released by the destruction of Iraqi munitions. The experience has left many doubting the Pentagon's ability or willingness to fully investigate Project Shad.

Morris' fact sheets describe how the tests were supposed to be carried out. Because her team interviewed No Veterans, even though Alderson and others offered to share their recollections, they do not claim to be a historical record of what actually happened.

"The fact that the military is investigating,
it doesn't breed confidence. The military tends to downplay its involvement with radiation, with biological warfare and chemical warfare," said Re. Christopher Shays (R-Conn.) "The military does not have a very good record when it comes to examining itself. Its past record of candid review, it's just not there."

LaChapelle helped oversee Project Shad from the so-called mother ship, the USS Granville Hall. It was a converted Liberty ship with a mysterious past; In the 1950s, rigged with remote-control steering, it was sent into the atomic fallout from nuclear tests.

Years later, the Hall's crew joked about setting off the radiation alarms every time they sailed int Pearl Harbor.

"Every time we pulled into Pearl, it was as if we were a spook. We were looked on as if we were orphans in the view of the"real Navy" or combat Navy," La Chapelle said.

To test simulants, the Hall and the accompanying fleet of tugs traveled only 60 miles off the island of Oahu. For the hot tests, they traveled 800 miles to Johnston Island, a remote atoll controlled by the Army's chemical warfare program.

Most Tests Done At Night

The tests almost always were conducted at night, when the air was calm. An A-4B Skyhawk would take off from Johnston, after burner roaring. Sometimes , the sailors could see the cloud falling from thesky, settling over the decks of the tugs.

When instruments showed that the cloud had dissipated, a crewmanin a protective suit would decontaminate, washing down the ship with seawater and cleansers. The monkeys were sent to the Hall to be killed and autopsied. The results of those tests remain secret.

Secrecy was paramount, especially when the crews returned to Pearl Harbor. J.B. Stone, a radioman assigned to the Hall in 1967 and 1968, said, "Grys who got drunk and blathered in a bar in Honolulu would disappear," reassigned to less-sensitive work.

The only tests known to have taken place in the Atlantic, "Copper Head," involved only simulated biological agents, according to the fact sheets. The Navy provided a destroyer; the USS Power. Its cres was told only that it was to steam from Florida to newfoundland in January, one of its more unpopular deployments.

"They wanted cold weather testing. They got it. The winds were horrible" said Larry Ginter, then a petty officer. He remembers a special crew that came aboard. "They told me they were testing air currents and the air tightness of the ship."

Homer Tack Jr., a torpedo man from Butler, Pa., recalls conducting perhaps four tests in January and February of 1965.

"We'd go to sea. The jets would fly overhead and spray. We'd get wet. We all asked what went on. They said nothing," Tack said. He added, "I told my family for 30 years that someday this was going to hit the news."

Long Quest To End Secrecy

Alderson started asking the Pentagon in 1994 to open its files and provide Veterans Affairs with enough data to evalulate what he and others believe is a rash of chronic respiratory illness among veterans of Project Shad.

At the time, Alderson was the chief executive officer of the marine district that manages the port of Humboldt Bay, California. Even with the help of a congressman, he got nowhere.

A book published in 1999, "The Biology of Doom," described some of Project Shad.

Then CBS News aired two stories about the secret tests in early 2000. Officials say that was the impetus for the disclosures about "Shady Grove," Autumn Gold" and "Copper Head."

Pat Eddington of the Vietnam Veterans of America said his organization was appalled that the experiments were conducted and that it took 40 years after they first began for the Pentagon to acknowledge them.

Alderson and some of the other veterans, while frustrated at the military's slow response to their requests for information, said they are proud of their service and defend the necessity of testing.

"It was a highly motivated cres," said La Chapelle, now the administrator of public health for Memphis and Shelby County, Tennessee. "We still feel lilke that. We were doing an importand job for the Navy and the Department of Defense."

He said he does not need to be reminded that biowar research was a real-world concern during the Cold War - or now. Today, as a public health administrator; he is in charge of investigating reports of anthrax terrorism.

(Mark Pazniokas and Thomas D Williams are staff writers for the Hartford Courant, a Tribune newspaper)

posted 11-27-2001 11:07 AM            

Here's a small sample of what you'll
find at the link Mark offered. It's worth saving and reading.

http://www.trufax.org/menu/rocmenu.html

The 1994 Rockefeller Report

Examining Biological Experimentation on U.S. Military

Biological Manipulation Main Menu
http://www.trufax.org/menu/bio.html

 Biological Manipulation of Human Populations
©1996, 1997,1998, 1999. 2000 Leading Edge International Research Group

What's been happening for more than 50 years?

posted 05-06-2002 12:56 PM            

11 Microbiologists dead In 5 months http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000623.html