posted 10-16-2001 06:10 AM            

I have been scanning messages posted here for about a week and I must say that the only place I have seen more fear-mongering going on about 911 has been CNN. Shouts of government involvement, or active participation, the Satanic plot angle and the rampant bending of the Bible to suit your means just scrap the surface of what I've seen.

I've got CNN telling me to worry about Anthrax, or not, and there are people here telling me that it's a plot by the government to disarm us. NWO my behind. I think that maybe we just aren't giving the general population the credit that they deserve. If you really believe that this is just an excuse to disarm, then where is our martial law declaration? Fastest way to stomp a people into helplessness is to turn their towns into police states. So, why hasn't it happened?

I know this is not a good way to make friends and all, but since everyone is entitled to speak their piece (thanks to a still intact Constitution) I just thought I'd speak mine.

posted 10-16-2001 07:18 AM            

>>>>TOP U.S. GOVT. TO CHINA NEXT WEEK, DISCUSS AFGHAN

Posted By: Phoenix
Date: Sunday, 14 October 2001, 9:52 a.m.

This article contains a wealth of information.

There is more validation that the U. S. "secret" plan for Afghanistan is proceeding.
As seen before, this involves setting up a government that is amenable to our interests (oil pipelines, most profitable to provide oil and gas for China and Japan).
The puppet government, the Northern Alliance,will probably be fronted by the elderly former king, Mohammad Zahir Shah and be under U.N. control.

Our top government personnel will be in China on Thursday at the Economic Summit and will continue discussions of Afghanistan's future with Russia and China.
The government personnel include Bush and Powell.
The heads of the Commerce department are in Russia now with defense and oil companies, so will presumably be in China by Thursday as well.
I suspect that Cheney will also be there and probably has been brokering deals around the Caspian Sea, the Persian Gulf, Russia and China. Worldwide deal making was his speciality as Halliburton's CEO.
I also strongly suspect Bush Sr. to be active in this process.
It is significant that under consideration is the rebuilding of the infrastructure of Afghanistan (after we're done bombing it again). Infrastructure building and support, especially for the oil industry, is Halliburton's speciality. They did this in the Balkans.

So, it looks like our top government officials, will be in China next week to have discussions that include Russia.
The discussions will include the future of Afghanistan and worldwide economic agreements.
Any outrage about manipulation of foreign governments will be dispersed by the U. N. overseeing this process.

OK, while we're sitting over here in the U. S. expecting an array of "terrorist attacks", although "protected" by NATO planes, the Executive branch of our government will be in China brokering business deals.
What kind of business deals were made to sell out the U. S. to the U. N.?

Shouldn't the Executive branch of the U. S. government be in the U. S. now instead of NATO?
It's not just a matter of where their priorities and focus should be, but aren't they vulnerable to attack themselves?
What would happen if we lost all these people at once?

Does anybody else see something terribly wrong here?

By the way, although the NYT reported Friday that the Afghanistan village of Karam had at least 53 dead, this is not mentioned in this article when civilian bombing is mentioned.<<<<

more:
http://www.rumormillnews.net/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=13103

posted 10-16-2001 10:50 AM            

Greetings from your neighbor to the southwest, home of the soon-to-be World-Series-winning Arizona Diamondbacks baseball team and the semi-pro Arizona Cardinals football team.

Last summer I managed to do both Estes Park and the Durango-Silverton train ride; you've got a lovely state in the summer. I also took my wife dancing at this great cowboy bar on the outskirts of Colorado Springs last year, but was too drunk at the time to remember its name.

As you're undoubtedly aware, most of the folks here are believers rather than debunkers, but we all seem to get along with only the minimum of hissing and snarling. Enjoy!

Regards,

posted 10-17-2001 01:14 AM            

lol

home of the soon-to-be World-Series-winning Arizona Diamondbacks baseball team

duncan I'll bet you a complete "cloudbuster" set up kit, with all the attachments...that it's the yankees year...

posted 10-17-2001 03:51 AM            

"BobB, if it's all just one big conspiracy, then how come people know about it? "

posted 10-17-2001 04:57 AM            

Okay, if they no longer need to cover it up, then it isn't a conspiracy, is it? If it's in the open then it's not being done by secret societies.

Hence, it isn't a conspiracy. So, why is it being made out to be one by people?

posted 10-17-2001 07:44 AM            

Of course, if this is a NWO plot, then why on earth would GW even pretend to try to deal with Russia or China, since we would need them pissed at us in order to get the TOTAL support needed for NWO.

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Just my $0.02.

posted 10-17-2001 09:33 AM            

...On the other hand, if we win the next three games as easily as the first one against Atlanta (and I'm not holding my breath), I'll stand you the chembuster against my bottle of chemscum-antidote (sorry, not recommended or guaranteed against anthrax).

posted 10-18-2001 01:35 AM            

you cia guys sure are so tight with your money !

posted 10-31-2001 12:16 AM            

or...the gov. controls sports too !

Ack !

posted 10-31-2001 01:13 AM            

And Cydoniaquest is probably in on it, too; it all ties in together. LOL

posted 10-31-2001 02:05 AM            

just for disclosure's sake...here's a photo of the *skull and bone's* annual 2001 "NWO & old family picnic"...

of course I will not dislose duncan's visual identity...or Jay's...but I'm the one on the extreme right...I am not afraid disclosing my photo...

I want to believe...

posted 10-31-2001 11:41 AM            

Could you keep a secret if someone threatened to ruin your reputation or rape your wife, or kill your kid or kill you? I think so. I know I could. Or what if someone gave you that choice, one of the above, or a nice cushy job with a huge salary?

You can't be serious about that old ruse about people not being able to keep a secret?

I do agree with one thing, I was hoping the Diamond Backs would sweep the Yankees. Though it's true some games are fixed, like that one last night maybe? Having the Yankees win at least one game was probably part of the script!!

posted 10-31-2001 11:59 AM            

Your response was dead-on, not to mention TPTB and the U.S. ignoring Chinas human rights abuses including their occupation of Tibet. As long as they keep threatening/pretending they will attack Taiwan, they seem to able to get what they want. And especially since they are in bed with American/European big business, China will not stand in the way of U.S./European operations in Afghanistan or anywhere else that's not a threat to them.

I still think there's a connection between China/Clinton/TPTB and the current state of affairs... they've all benefited from 9/11 to some extent. Though this is most of all a victory for American/European oil interests, maybe a power grab to reduce dependance on Saudi oil who stand to be the big losers here? (not to mention 3rd world civilians/combatants)... IMO.

KnewEyes, I think we are seeing a NWO in operation right now. As long as we (Americans/Europeans etc) are not considered as 3rd world useless eaters/subjects/cannon fodder, we are relatively safe as far as us being 'genocided'. But 10-20 years from now, who knows? Though there has been speculation about chemtrails/non-consensual human experimentation as being a slow-acting form of genocide. As are GMO and pharmaceutical experiments already being conducted world-wide on the entire population?

XPig, the NRA and large segments of the U.S. population and other worldwide are standing in the way of disarmament and the non-stop attacks by the Clinton/China regime against the Constitution and their efforts to disarm the citizens of what may be the last free country on earth. NRA and it's supporters and many others; Libertarian, Constitutional groups are standing in the way of what we consider to be totalitarian and fascist (NWO) involvement in the United States.

Some people think that the L.A. riots were a dry run for martial law as it might be employed nationally. If so, TPTB have learned that there would be a bloodbath since American citizens still have the right to keep and bear arms. National Guard units basically stayed out of South Central L.A. and so, suffered no casualties, that I know of. They were apparently ordered to remain on the outskirts and to basically try to contain the violence within the ghetto neighborhoods.

posted 11-05-2001 11:05 AM            

DK: home of the soon-to-be World-Series-winning Arizona Diamondbacks baseball team

t/s: duncan I'll bet you a complete "cloudbuster" set up kit, with all the attachments...that it's the yankees year...