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Dry Cough
Senior Member

Salem OR Marion
67 posts, May 2001

posted 10-25-2001 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dry Cough     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This interesting email was sent to us - don't know the guy listed at the bottom but he apparently originated it - thought it was worth posting for your information.
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Item 1.

This from the NY Times on 10/21

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/21/opinion/21DOWD.html

Senator McCain:

"I'm afraid we're going to have a nuclear exchange in the next four
weeks.
Sharon's about to go to war with the Palestinians. India could use that
as
a cover to provoke Pakistan. Then Pakistan might nuke India. All these
friction points will be a huge test of Bush."
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Item 2.

This from the Hidustan Times on 10/22

http://www.hindustantimes.com/nonfram/221001/dlame81.asp

China assisting us in war against US:
Taliban commander K J M Varma
(Islamabad, October 22)

Taliban Commander-in-Chief Jalaluddin Haqqani has claimed that the
militia
was "in touch" with China, which was assisting them in the war against
US.

Before leaving for Afghanistan after holding talks with Pakistani
officials
here, Haqqani, who is also the Minister for Frontier Regions, told
reporters "China is still assisting Taliban in the war against the
United

States".
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Item 3.
This is from the Irish Examiner 10/22
http://breaking.tcm.ie/story.asp?j=6682916&p=6683y6x&n=6683214&x=

Israeli warplanes attack Hezbollah positions in Lebanon

Israeli warplanes have attacked suspected Hezbollah guerrilla bases in
southern Lebanon after the guerrillas fired rockets and mortar shells at

Israeli positions in the disputed Chebaa Farms area.

Witnesses said the Israelis used air-to-surface missiles and artillery
shells against the Hezbollah fighters in a valley near the village of
Halta.

It was the first Israeli air raid on Lebanon since July 1st, when Israel

attacked Syrian army positions in eastern Lebanon in retaliation for a
Hezbollah attack near Chebaa Farms.
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Item 4.
Source: Xinhua News Agency - CEIS
Publication date: 2001-10-21
http://globalsecuritynews.yellowbrix.com/pages/globalsecuritynews/Story.

nsp?story_id=24524558&ID=globalsecuritynews

Qatar Calls for U.N. Emergency Meeting for Mideast Crisis

Qatar has requested the United Nations Security Council to hold an
emergency meeting to discuss the escalating Middle East crisis, Kuwait's

official KUNA news agency reported.

"The meeting is to seek international protection of the Palestinian
people,
create adequate conditions for resumption of the Middle East peace
process
on its original basis which includes land- for-peace theme," an official

source at the Qatari foreign ministry was quoted by KUNA as saying.

He added that Qatari Foreign Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim al- Thani
has
summoned ambassadors of the permanent member states of the Security
Council
and conveyed to them the request.

More than 20 Palestinians have been killed and dozens wounded since
Israel
launched massive incursions into six Palestinian self- rule cities in
the

West Bank in retaliation for the assassination of Israeli Tourism
Minister
Rehavam Ze'evi by Palestinian gunmen onWednesday.

Oil-rich Qatar is the current chairman of the Organization of Islamic
Conference.
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Item 5.
http://asia.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/world/afp/article.html?s=asia/

headlines/011022/world/afp/

BETHLEHEM, West Bank, Oct 22 (AFP) -

The Bethlehem branch of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's Fatah
movement

on Monday warned the Israeli army to end its occupation of this West
Bank

town or see the neighbouring Jewish settlement of Gilo engulfed in rifle

and mortar fire.

"If the Israeli army does not withdraw from Bethlehem in the coming
hours,
then Fatah will impose its own curfew on Gilo by shooting and shelling,"

the Bethlehem branch of Fatah warned in a statement.
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Item 6.

Iraq Next -
(The headline in major Toronto newspaper -
in newspaper box today.
"Did you see that" - my wife said,
on the way back from the eye specialist.
"Nope, I didn't see anything -
especially since the doctor put drops in my eyes.")

But the world as I see it.-

a. The IDF (Israeli Defense Force) is hammering Palestine.

a2. Twenty Palestinians killed in the last few days -

a3. F-16s being used for only 2nd time
since Israel withdrawal from Palestine.

a4. Sharon saying he will really let the hammer fall
on the 27th or 28th if Arafat doesn't turn over
the minister's assassins
(which Arafat can in no way do).

b. The Moslems getting very upset about this -
as evidenced by the head of the Moslem League
asking the UN Security Council to intervene.

b2. And now for the first time
there is Moslem representation on the Security
Council
(Syria was just appointed there).

b3. Along with Amman being the Secretary General of the
UN.

c. The US is hammering the Taliban in China.

c1. Which is upsetting Moslems the world over.

c2. China has signed a treaty with the Taliban.

c3. Chinese soldiers reported killed two days ago
while assisting the Taliban (according to Debka
File)

c4. China and Russian have said that they wish for the
US
to stop bombing in Afghanistan.

d. Russia and China have told the US not to bomb Iraq.

d1. US has been bombing Iraq anyway.

d2. US bombing of Iraq has been against UN rules.

d3. US is planning further action against Iraq
as evidenced by statements by Bush, Cheney and
Powell.

e. Yesterday the US reinforced South Korea with more fighter
planes.

e1. North Korea strongly protested.

f. Taiwan has disappeared off the US public radar screen
but China is emphatic as ever.

g. Pakistan versus India situation greatly heating up -
and both of them are nuclear powers.

h. Major arms and missiles being moved into position by
Hizbollah.

Strangely, when I try to get news from some of my regular sources -
they have disappeared.

http://www2.haaretz.co.il/breaking-news/

Is it just a fluke -

or have they been zapped by Moslem hackers -

or have they been closed down by the Israeli Government.

Also my Debka File newswire is running hours behind -
after showing lots more conflicts, injuries, deaths, incidents
than usual.
See that at:

http://www.webpal.org/

You can click on any news item on the newswire
and it will take you directly to it.

I suspect,
that when things really begin to break -
there will be a news blackout.
It may be happening already -
and we just don't know about it.

Yep, I agree with Senator McCain -
nuclear war within 30 days -
or, for my part, quite possibly much sooner -
and I don't see it being a limited regional conflict.

As I always point out -
I share all my facts -
and sources.
You can interpret them just as well as I.
If you see it differently -
well - so be it.

All that you hear on the TV
is about Anthrax.
A nothing situation.
Probably home grown terrorism just as was Oklahoma City.
Of no real significance.
More people infected each day with fatal versions of AIDs.
Many more killed in auto-accidents.
So what.

The news items that I have mentioned -
may lead to elimination of 80 percent of the world's population
in the next 30 days.
And where are you reading or hearing about that.

Peace and love,
Bruce Beach
survival@webpal.org

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Duncan Kunz
Senior Member


582 posts, Oct 2000

posted 10-25-2001 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Duncan Kunz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Bruce Beach" does have some valid points.

Although I haven't been able to find anything about the PRC signing a treaty with the Taliban or with PRC soldiers killed in Afghanistan -- nor was I blocked from the Ha'aretz site -- the situation on all fronts looks pretty dynamic.

I'm not going to go out and buy a couple hundred bottles of Cipro, but it might not be a bad idea just to stockpile some food and water, in case something closes the stores for a while. You never can tell.

Regards,

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Duncan Kunz / duncankunz@home.com
Mesa AZ / 480-891-2525

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David
Chemtrail Information Agent


1290 posts, Oct 2000

posted 10-25-2001 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dry Cough. Just some information for you.
Mr. Beach and I communicate.
His wife is a firm believer in chemtrails and NOT a fan of the new world order. She tried to point out chemtrails to him again a couple of nights ago, even going to a location about 30 mins from their home to get a better view. Still he is not convinced of their existance.
Bruce however IS very PRO NWO, very. You might consider this fact when reviewing his information on world affairs, some bias might exist.
Here is a link to his personal view on the NWO---- http://www.webpal.org/essays/nwo/

[Edited 1 times, lastly by David on 10-25-2001]

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Dry Cough
Senior Member

Salem OR Marion
67 posts, May 2001

posted 10-26-2001 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dry Cough     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
David - thanks for the kind information about Mr. Beach and I will check out his essays - I am sorry to hear that but as I said someone just forwarded his email message and I thought it was interesting since we have been wondering if and when a nuclear exchange might happen ever since Boeing picked up and moved away from Seattle after so many years of being there. I like your description as "chemtrail information agent" - I guess we all have to fill those shoes a bit since the official talking heads can't or won't.

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Dry Cough
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Salem OR Marion
67 posts, May 2001

posted 10-26-2001 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dry Cough     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
David - I just read his first prelude gushing over the "inevitable" NWO and THAT was enough to make me feel quite nauseous so I don't know if I can stomach any further reading but I did, however, send it to my very anti-NWO friend who had forwarded Mr. Beach's email to me in the first place, so thanks so much. Gee, with people like Mr. Beach the antichrist won't have much problem getting him to take the MARK, will he?

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BobB
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LInden,Texas,United states of America
67 posts, Jul 2001

posted 10-29-2001 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BobB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like Iv'e been saying all along folks, this is ARMAGEDDON, and you are quite correct when you state the news is being censored.You must see the whole picture though. The events to come will kill at least two-thirds of the worlds population quickly, with the rest suffering a radiactive night mare of sickness and starvation.The increased solar output and chemtrails are all a a part of the biblical prophecies.Underground cities and transportation have already been constructed. this war is being planned by all the worlds superpowers as a population trimming opperation, the illuminati elite plan on surviving in comfort beneath the Earths surface, they have know for centuries that these events would come to past, and when.And now i say to you DUNCAN KUNZ, where is your alegiance??With our Satanic government??Are you going to ridicule me or insult my intellect now??... I may not be as elloquent as you, Duncan, but at least I have the facts straight, and I have the ability to think beyond the party line....I hope i am able to speak to you again , you fellow seekers........

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Duncan Kunz
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582 posts, Oct 2000

posted 10-29-2001 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Duncan Kunz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
”And now i say to you DUNCAN KUNZ, where is your alegiance[sic]??

My allegiance is (in order) to God, my family, myself, the Constitution of the United States, and
The Boeing Company. Where’s yours?

”With our Satanic government??”

There are some who really really think our government is Satanic. I’m not one of them, although I've had a devil of a time finding a parking place when I lived in Washington, DC. I do think that there’re a lot of crooks in the government. And if you want to consider our
government as run by devils, that’s your right. So far the Satanists haven’t taken away the right
to either free speech or free thought.

”Are you going to ridicule me or insult my intellect now??

Not unless it really floats your boat. It’s not like I feel I have to prove anything one way or the other.

”I may not be as elloquent [sic] as you, Duncan, but at least I have the facts
straight....”

Well, here’s the good news. We’re halfway to complete agreement on that.

Regards,

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Duncan Kunz / duncankunz@home.com
Mesa AZ / 480-891-2525

[Edited 2 times, lastly by Duncan Kunz on 10-29-2001]

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Megatherion
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5 posts, Oct 2001

posted 10-29-2001 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Megatherion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The writter for the NY TIMES 10/21 article quotes reporter friend speaking of a nuclear exchange not Sen.McCain.

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Cougar390
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Milwaukee, WI
70 posts, Jun 2001

posted 10-29-2001 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cougar390     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right on Bob, we know exactly what is going on. I'm just about done trying to convince num nums about the truth. To want to know nothing and hear nothing makes you the satanic governments best friend. Like the bible says, do not cast your pearls amongst swine.

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