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Farflame
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Hucknall, Nottingham, UK
6 posts, Oct 2001

posted 11-11-2001 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Farflame     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did anyone else see the news report showing the contrails above Kabul? There were 20 or 30 rings in the sky, very similar to some of the photo's I've seen in the achives. I've heard that B-52's 'circle' in order to find their targets - is this true? I was under the impression that a bomber was given it's co-ordinates in advance, dropped them on the target and then got the hell outta there. What's the purpose of a bomber circling? If it was looking for a target, wouldn't it then need to stop circling in order to line up for a bomb run? These seemed to be perfect circles with no deviation.

They seem to have done everything else to clear the area of the native population, could they be wiping out the rest?

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FLKook
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East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001

posted 11-13-2001 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi farflame, welcome. I noticed this too. I wondered if it might not be bombers circling but fighter jets as they will do when patrolling. Also because the shot I caught on the news was so brief it was hard to say if they would persist and spread in to our oh so familiar chem muck cirrus layer. Any stills or pics that suggest they may have spread?

Noticed you are from the UK, do you get much Chemtrail action in your area? I'm the one tracking Ct reports on a map but my wall map only covers the US.

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Farflame
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Hucknall, Nottingham, UK
6 posts, Oct 2001

posted 11-13-2001 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Farflame     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Strangely enough, the first day I read these pages, I walked my dog and a large jet passed straight overhead at very low altitude, which was a bit of a coincidence. That was just a few days after Sept 11th. I haven't yet seen any definately chemtrails, although I'm often seeing that murky red/yellow haze around the moon.

I'm afraid I only saw a short clip of the Kabul trails aswell, so it may just have been the jets/bombers as you say. I'm just very paranoid of everything 'they' do nowadays, I'm very concerned about the NWO. Tony Blair even openly admitted he wants a NWO yesterday.

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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts


Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 11-14-2001 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are Maverick's explanations of why various circular contrails show up over a combat area:
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum14/HTML/000011.html

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hitech_46253
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Indianapolis, IN U.S.
499 posts, May 2001

posted 11-15-2001 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hitech_46253   Visit hitech_46253's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See THIS:
Hostile CWM operations produced Afgan drought http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LLNews/message/885

The drought was caused DELIBERATELY.
7.5 MILLION face STARVATION.
Then we drop food laced with hemorhagic Fever(Ebola) Pretty sick Puppies we've running things.

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Thermit
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Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 11-15-2001 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:

Then we drop food laced with hemorhagic Fever(Ebola)

So how did you deduce that?

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hitech_46253
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Indianapolis, IN U.S.
499 posts, May 2001

posted 11-16-2001 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hitech_46253   Visit hitech_46253's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(This is a MUCH more believeable story! Our government gave blankets to Indians with BIOLOGICALS in them a long time ago. What makes ANYBODY think things have changed?? Bear in mind that the Afghans actually were BURNING THE FOOD! Also, cluster bombs are yellow cans and the MRE food packs are YELLOW looking VERY SIMILAR. This is about DEPOPULATION and CONTROL Thermit. We've got some SICK SATANIC puppies in Bush Sr. and Jr.)

NEWS BRIEF
Infected Food: Afghanis burning food dropped by U.S. planes
Mon Oct 8 16:28:55 2001


La Voz de Aztlan
Los Angeles, Alta California
October 8, 2001

NEWS BRIEF

Infected Food: Afghanis burning food dropped by U.S. planes

Afghanis are burying and burning food dropped by
U.S. planes for fear of it being infected with the
ebola virus according to a report today by the
Al-Jazeera News Network. Villagers believe that
the food being dropped after bombing runs has
been infected on purpose by the "Great Satan"
in order to depopulate their country.

The ebola virus has already been introduced into
the country by other methods some months ago
and a large number of the population believe that
the dropping of contaminated food is just another
attempt to exterminate the Afghani people from
their strategically located country.

Most Afghani natives know that the true intent
of bombing and invading their country by the U.S.
is to destroy the Taliban and replace them with a
puppet regime for the ultimate purpose of being
able to construct gas and oil pipelines through
Afghanistan to a harbor in Pakistan. The conquest
of Afghanistan also gives the U.S. a more strategic
position to eventually control the oil and gas rich
Caspian Sea region.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
La Voz de Aztlan http://www.aztlan.net

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Thermit
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Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 11-16-2001 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Our government gave blankets to Indians with BIOLOGICALS in them a long time ago. What makes ANYBODY think things have changed??

Larry, first of all you've got the story wrong. It was the British who did this, not the U.S.

Secondly, it appears that you are basing your "poisoned food" assertions on the reactions of a few people to the Taliban lie that we were poisoning the food. The Taliban are the last people I would believe. They are the sick puppies in my mind. Don't get me wrong, the U.S. government hasn't been an angel either, but we sure aren't wasting time with tainted food. The Northern Alliance has been eating this food too, I think they might have complained at least a little bit, if anyone had died due to it. Also, U.S. soldiers are working with, and traveling with the NA, that would mean our troops would be bringing the Fever home if what you said was true. It just ain't true. And I seriously doubt there is any Chemtrailing going on over Afghanistan.

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Farflame
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Hucknall, Nottingham, UK
6 posts, Oct 2001

posted 11-16-2001 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Farflame     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think people make a mistake when they say 'The British' or 'The Americans' did this or that. It was just a few sick individuals who gave smallpox infected blankets to the Native Americans - however, the public had been brainwashed into believing that they were 'savages' and should be exterminated. Sadly, alot of people still believe the same lies put out by the modern media, and are happy to see the Afghans wiped out (which is what is happening). It's not fair or true to say that 'America' or 'Americans' are evil, but as the most powerful country on Earth, most of the evil that's happening does come from America, and I strongly believe that this whole war has been deliberately manufactured in order to clear the area of Afghans (i.e 'stabalise the area') due to it's strategic position (especially regarding oil pipelines). Whether or not they're spraying Afghans or deliberately infecting them....maybe not, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised.

I don't think Americans are bad people, infact most I talk to on the net are fantastic people, but I do believe that many are brainwashed into believing that they're the 'good guys'. The American and British governments have alot to answer for, and there are some very very bad people running the show.

This is just my opinion of course

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Thermit
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Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 11-16-2001 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:

I think people make a mistake when they say 'The British' or 'The Americans' did this or that. It was just a few sick individuals who gave smallpox infected blankets to the Native Americans.

Good point, Farflame.

It wasn't a conspiracy of a government to do evil, it was just a few assholes who happened to be inhabiting British bodies. Just like there are a few of these asses who have helped give America a bad rap to the rest of the world, well, there's the ignorant foreign policy too...

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Swedishoo
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280 posts, Aug 2000

posted 11-16-2001 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swedishoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FarFlame

I totally agree with you 100%. The majority of public in the US and Britian are good, kind and caring people. They have good morals and faith in God. However the small percentage of leaders and head positions are mostly held by mentally sick Godless, evil people. Their drive is Power and Greed.

Only in America could the Hollywood media-controllers come out with a movie at Christmas time about a British Warlock to teach children about witchcraft.

Glad to see that 60% of parents WON'T be taking their kids to see it.

Christy

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Farflame
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Hucknall, Nottingham, UK
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posted 11-16-2001 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Farflame     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's pretty much the same today sadly. There's good and bad on both sides, it's just a shame that the bad guys always manage to convince the bulk of their population that the other side deserve to die.

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Farflame
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Hucknall, Nottingham, UK
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posted 11-16-2001 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Farflame     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exactly Christy. The vast majority of us don't deserve this, the vast majority of Afghans don't deserve this. Question is, what are we gonna do about it? I for one am sick of seeing these evil morons destroy so many lives. I feel helpless though, whenever I turn on the TV now. I speak out about it, I give money to charities, but I think we need more than that now

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Molliani
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posted 11-17-2001 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Molliani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How could we possibly get involved
in a war in Afghanistan?

February 12, 1998 -
September 11, 2001 - ?

The testimony is rather long. If you just
skim the highlights you'll get the
message.

John J. Maresca;
Vice President, International Relations; UNOCAL Corporation

To House Committee On International Relations;
Submmittee On Asia And The Pacific;

February 12, 1998 -- Washington, D.C.

"The only other possible route option
is across Afghanistan, which has its
own unique challenges."

"... we have made it clear that
construction of our proposed pipeline cannot begin until a recognized government is in place that has the confidence of governments, lenders
and our company. "

"A recent study for the World Bank
states that the proposed pipeline from Central Asia across Afghanistan and Pakistan to the Arabian Sea would provide more favorable netbacks to oil producers... "

"... cannot begin construction until an internationally recognized Afghanistan government is in place."

"We urge the Administration and the Congress to give strong support to the United Nations-led peace process in Afghanistan."
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
U.S. House of Representatives http://www.house.gov/

107th Congress, 1st Session:

Testimony By: John J. Maresca

To House Committee On International Relations
February 12, 1998
Washington, D.C.

Mr. Chairman, I am John Maresca,
Vice President, International Relations,
of Unocal Corporation. Unocal is one
of the world's leading energy resource
and project development companies.

Our activities are focused on three
major regions — Asia, Latin America
and the U.S. Gulf of Mexico. In Asia
and the U.S. Gulf of Mexico, we are a major oil and gas producer.

I appreciate your invitation to speak
here today. I believe these hearings
are important and timely, and I congratulate you for focusing on Central Asia oil and gas reserves and the role they play in shaping U.S. policy.

Today we would like to focus on three issues concerning this region, its resources and U.S. policy:
The need for multiple pipeline routes
for Central Asian oil and gas.

The need for U.S. support for
international and regional efforts to achieve balanced and lasting political settlements within Russia, other newly independent states and in Afghanistan.

The need for structured assistance to encourage economic reforms and the development of appropriate investment climates in the region. In this regard,
we specifically support repeal or
removal of Section 907 of the Freedom Support Act.

For more than 2,000 years, Central Asia has been a meeting ground between Europe and Asia, the site of ancient east-west trade routes collectively
called the Silk Road and, at various points in history, a cradle of scholarship, culture and power. It is also a region of truly enormous natural resources, which are revitalizing cross-border trade, creating positive political interaction and stimulating regional cooperation. These resources have the potential to recharge the economies of neighboring countries and put entire regions on the road to prosperity.

About 100 years ago, the international
oil industry was born in the Caspian/Central Asian region with the discovery of oil. In the intervening years, under Soviet rule, the existence of the region's oil and gas resources was generally known, but only partially or poorly developed.

As we near the end of the 20th century, history brings us full circle. With political barriers falling, Central Asia and the Caspian are once again attracting
people from around the globe who are seeking ways to develop and deliver its bountiful energy resources to the
markets of the world.

The Caspian region contains tremendous untapped hydrocarbon reserves, much of them located in the Caspian Sea basin itself. Proven natural gas reserves within Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan equal more than 236 trillion cubic feet. The region's total oil reserves may reach more than 60 billion barrels of oil — enough to service Europe's oil needs for 11 years. Some estimates are as high as 200 billion barrels. In 1995, the region was producing only 870,000 barrels per day (44 million tons per year [Mt/y]).

By 2010, Western companies could increase production to about 4.5 million barrels a day (Mb/d) — an increase of more than 500 percent in only 15 years. If this occurs, the region would represent about five percent of the world's total oil production, and almost 20 percent of oil produced among non-OPEC countries.

One major problem has yet to be resolved: how to get the region's vast energy resources to the markets where they are needed. There are few, if any, other areas of the world where there can be such a dramatic increase in the supply of oil and gas to the world market. The solution seems simple: build a "new" Silk Road. Implementing this solution, however, is far from simple. The risks are high, but so are the rewards.

Finding and Building Routes to World Markets

One of the main problems is that Central Asia is isolated. The region is bounded on the north by the Arctic Circle, on the east and west by vast land distances, and on the south by a series of natural obstacles — mountains and seas — as well as political obstacles, such as conflict zones or sanctioned countries.

This means that the area's natural resources are landlocked, both geographically and politically. Each of the countries in the Caucasus and Central Asia faces difficult political challenges. Some have unsettled wars or latent conflicts. Others have evolving systems where the laws — and even the courts — are dynamic and changing. Business commitments can be rescinded without warning, or they can be displaced by new geopolitical realities.

In addition, a chief technical obstacle we face in transporting oil is the region's existing pipeline infrastructure. Because the region's pipelines were constructed during the Moscow-centered Soviet period, they tend to head north and west toward Russia. There are no connections to the south and east.

Depending wholly on this infrastructure to export Central Asia oil is not practical. Russia currently is unlikely to absorb large new quantities of "foreign" oil, is unlikely to be a significant market for energy in the next decade, and lacks the capacity to deliver it to other markets.

Certainly there is no easy way out of Central Asia. If there are to be other routes, in other directions, they must be built.

Two major energy infrastructure projects are seeking to meet this challenge. One, under the aegis of the Caspian Pipeline Consortium, or CPC, plans to build a pipeline west from the Northern Caspian to the Russian Black Sea port of Novorossisk. From Novorossisk, oil from this line would be transported by tanker through the Bosphorus to the Mediterranean and world markets.

The other project is sponsored by the Azerbaijan International Operating Company (AIOC), a consortium of 11 foreign oil companies including four American companies — Unocal, Amoco, Exxon and Pennzoil. It will follow one or both of two routes west from Baku. One line will angle north and cross the North Caucasus to Novorossisk. The other route would cross Georgia and extend to a shipping terminal on the Black Sea port of Supsa. This second route may be extended west and south across Turkey to the Mediterranean port of Ceyhan.

But even if both pipelines were built, they would not have enough total capacity to transport all the oil expected to flow from the region in the future; nor would they have the capability to move it to the right markets. Other export pipelines must be built.

Unocal believes that the central factor in planning these pipelines should be the location of the future energy markets that are most likely to need these new supplies. Just as Central Asia was the meeting ground between Europe and Asia in centuries past, it is again in a unique position to potentially service markets in both of these regions — if export routes to these markets can be built. Let's take a look at some of the potential markets.

Western Europe

Western Europe is a tough market. It is characterized by high prices for oil products, an aging population, and increasing competition from natural gas. Between 1995 and 2010, we estimate that demand for oil will increase from 14.1 Mb/d (705 Mt/y) to 15.0 Mb/d (750 Mt/y), an average growth rate of only 0.5 percent annually. Furthermore, the region is already amply supplied from fields in the Middle East, North Sea, Scandinavia and Russia. Although there is perhaps room for some of Central Asia's oil, the Western European market is unlikely to be able to absorb all of the production from the Caspian region.

Central and Eastern Europe

Central and Eastern Europe markets do not look any better. Although there is increased demand for oil in the region's transport sector, natural gas is gaining strength as a competitor. Between 1995 and 2010, demand for oil is expected to increase by only half a million barrels per day, from 1.3 Mb/d (67 Mt/y) to 1.8 Mb/d (91.5 Mt/y). Like Western Europe, this market is also very competitive. In addition to supplies of oil from the North Sea, Africa and the Middle East, Russia supplies the majority of the oil to this region.

The Domestic NIS Market

The growth in demand for oil also will be weak in the Newly Independent States (NIS). We expect Russian and other NIS markets to increase demand by only 1.2 percent annually between 1997 and 2010.

Asia/Pacific

In stark contrast to the other three markets, the Asia/Pacific region has a rapidly increasing demand for oil and an expected significant increase in population. Prior to the recent turbulence in the various Asian/Pacific economies, we anticipated that this region's demand for oil would almost double by 2010. Although the short-term increase in demand will probably not meet these expectations, Unocal stands behind its long-term estimates.

Energy demand growth will remain strong for one key reason: the region's population is expected to grow by 700 million people by 2010.

It is in everyone's interests that there be adequate supplies for Asia's increasing energy requirements. If Asia's energy needs are not satisfied, they will simply put pressure on all world markets, driving prices upwards everywhere.

The key question is how the energy resources of Central Asia can be made available to satisfy the energy needs of nearby Asian markets. There are two possible solutions — with several variations.

Export Routes

East to China: Prohibitively Long?

One option is to go east across China. But this would mean constructing a pipeline of more than 3,000 kilometers to central China — as well as a 2,000-kilometer connection to reach the main population centers along the coast. Even with these formidable challenges, China National Petroleum Corporation is considering building a pipeline east from Kazakhstan to Chinese markets.

Unocal had a team in Beijing just last week for consultations with the Chinese. Given China's long-range outlook and its ability to concentrate resources to meet its own needs, China is almost certain to build such a line. The question is what will the costs of transporting oil through this pipeline be and what netback will the producers receive.

South to the Indian Ocean: A Shorter Distance to Growing Markets

A second option is to build a pipeline south from Central Asia to the Indian Ocean.

One obvious potential route south would be across Iran. However, this option is foreclosed for American companies because of U.S. sanctions legislation. The only other possible route option is across Afghanistan, which has its own unique challenges.

The country has been involved in bitter warfare for almost two decades. The territory across which the pipeline would extend is controlled by the Taliban, an Islamic movement that is not recognized as a government by most other nations. From the outset, we have made it clear that construction of our proposed pipeline cannot begin until a recognized government is in place that has the confidence of governments, lenders and our company.

In spite of this, a route through Afghanistan appears to be the best option with the fewest technical obstacles. It is the shortest route to the sea and has relatively favorable terrain for a pipeline. The route through Afghanistan is the one that would bring Central Asian oil closest to Asian markets and thus would be the cheapest in terms of transporting the oil.

Unocal envisions the creation of a Central Asian Oil Pipeline Consortium. The pipeline would become an integral part of a regional oil pipeline system that will utilize and gather oil from existing pipeline infrastructure in Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan and Russia.

The 1,040-mile-long oil pipeline would begin near the town of Chardzhou, in northern Turkmenistan, and extend southeasterly through Afghanistan to an export terminal that would be constructed on the Pakistan coast on the Arabian Sea. Only about 440 miles of the pipeline would be in Afghanistan.

This 42-inch-diameter pipeline will have a shipping capacity of one million barrels of oil per day. Estimated cost of the project — which is similar in scope to the Trans Alaska Pipeline — is about US$2.5 billion.

There is considerable international and regional political interest in this pipeline. Asian crude oil importers, particularly from Japan, are looking to Central Asia and the Caspian as a new strategic source of supply to satisfy their desire for resource diversity. The pipeline benefits Central Asian countries because it would allow them to sell their oil in expanding and highly prospective hard currency markets.

The pipeline would benefit Afghanistan, which would receive revenues from transport tariffs, and would promote stability and encourage trade and economic development. Although Unocal has not negotiated with any one group, and does not favor any group, we have had contacts with and briefings for all of them. We know that the different factions in Afghanistan understand the importance of the pipeline project for their country, and have expressed their support of it.

A recent study for the World Bank states that the proposed pipeline from Central Asia across Afghanistan and Pakistan to the Arabian Sea would provide more favorable netbacks to oil producers through access to higher value markets than those currently being accessed through the traditional Baltic and Black Sea export routes.

This is evidenced by the netback values producers will receive as determined by the World Bank study. For West Siberian crude, the netback value will increase by nearly $2.00 per barrel by going south to Asia. For a producer in western Kazakhstan, the netback value will increase by more than $1 per barrel by going south to Asia as compared to west to the Mediterranean via the Black Sea.

Natural Gas Export

Given the plentiful natural gas supplies of Central Asia, our aim is to link a specific natural resource with the nearest viable market. This is basic for the commercial viability of any gas project. As with all projects being considered in this region, the following projects face geo-political challenges, as well as market issues.

Unocal and the Turkish company, Koc Holding A.S., are interested in bringing competitive gas supplies to the Turkey market. The proposed Eurasia Natural Gas Pipeline would transport gas from Turkmenistan directly across the Caspian Sea through Azerbaijan and Georgia to Turkey. Sixty percent of this proposed gas pipeline would follow the same route as the oil pipeline proposed to run from Baku to Ceyhan. Of course, the demarcation of the Caspian remains an issue.

Last October, the Central Asia Pipeline, Ltd. (CentGas) consortium, in which Unocal holds an interest, was formed to develop a gas pipeline that will link Turkmenistan's vast natural gas reserves in the Dauletabad Field with markets in Pakistan and possibly India. An independent evaluation shows that the field's resources are adequate for the project's needs, assuming production rates rising over time to 2 billion cubic feet of gas per day for 30 years or more.

In production since 1983, the Dauletabad Field's natural gas has been delivered north via Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan and Russia to markets in the Caspian and Black Sea areas. The proposed 790-mile pipeline will open up new markets for this gas, travelling from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan to Multan, Pakistan.

A proposed extension would link with the existing Sui pipeline system, moving gas to near New Delhi, where it would connect with the existing HBJ pipeline. By serving these additional volumes, the extension would enhance the economics of the project, leading to overall reductions in delivered natural gas costs for all users and better margins. As currently planned, the CentGas pipeline would cost approximately $2 billion. A 400-mile extension into India could add $600 million to the overall project cost.

As with the proposed Central Asia Oil Pipeline, CentGas cannot begin construction until an internationally recognized Afghanistan government is in place. For the project to advance, it must have international financing, government-to-government agreements and government-to-consortium agreements.

Conclusion

The Central Asia and Caspian region is blessed with abundant oil and gas that can enhance the lives of the region's residents and provide energy for growth for Europe and Asia.

The impact of these resources on U.S. commercial interests and U.S. foreign policy is also significant and intertwined. Without peaceful settlement of conflicts within the region, cross-border oil and gas pipelines are not likely to be built. We urge the Administration and the Congress to give strong support to the United Nations-led peace process in Afghanistan.

U.S. assistance in developing these new economies will be crucial to business' success. We encourage strong technical assistance programs throughout the region. We also urge repeal or removal of Section 907 of the Freedom Support Act. This section unfairly restricts U.S. government assistance to the government of Azerbaijan and limits U.S. influence in the region.

Developing cost-effective, profitable and efficient export routes for Central Asia resources is a formidable, but not impossible, task. It has been accomplished before. A commercial corridor, a "new" Silk Road, can link the Central Asia supply with the demand — once again making Central Asia the crossroads between Europe and Asia.

Thank you.

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hitech_46253
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posted 11-18-2001 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hitech_46253   Visit hitech_46253's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The US government has bought all commercial satellite photos over Afghanistan. Since the resolution of these photos will NOT show troop or ground movements you have to wonder WHY. The US government HAS been trying to shove an oil pipeline through Afghanistan for some time. The WTC even was STAGED to push this war. Negotiations with India and others are documented in June and July show planning for an October war.

We've clearly seen how DROUGHTS are caused by CHEMTRAILS. The material I cited suggests that the drought there WAS caused deliberately. This is QUITE LIKELY. The globalist want total control of Oil and DRUGS! Bear in mind that Bushy Sr. was head of the CIA and they are the CHIEF drug runners.

And I'd still suspect globalist interests spreading the EBOLA to further their de-population agenda which the US is now empowering the UN to perform.

I continue to document these items here:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LLNews

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On last Friday evenings news on CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corp.) there was a story that showed a close up of a B-52 laying thick trail as the reporter described American bombing support of the Northern alliance taking Kunduz. Then the reporter described 'deadly sky grafitti' over a shot of the sky showing some trails and a circular one in progress.
There have been many close up shots of B-52's on the news but this was the first one showing trails in the whole sky.
Glad that the editors snuck that one through.

Sorry no still, I'm very lo-tech.

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Dry Cough
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posted 11-28-2001 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dry Cough     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the really excellent posts, people, on this topic - I have also seen the thick chemtrails on some of the media broadcasts and I think someone posted some time ago - I know Rense did - how at the beginning of this "war on terrorism" several Afghans and Pakistanis DID break out in hemorraghic fever, so there IS some credence to that story and the fear that those folks have about our government's nefarious activities over there, Taliban reporting or not. We have one evil government pitted against another here - the Taliban was set up by ours anyway, let's not forget that fact and was given 8 million by Colin Powell, weren't they, just a few months before 9/11, so....it's the same old song, set up a straw man and then when you need a convenient "enemy" to attack for your latest war in the latest game play of the NWO, you have your ready made Hitler to step up the the plate - undoubtedly another version of Hegelian dialectics being played out.

One other point - the Afghanis may be upset about our little food packs because I recall during our Bosnia "peace" (ha! - bombing everyone there as well - see the emperor's new clothes and their comparison photos on Belgrade and NYC - really amazing stuff) mission that the Moslems were quite upset and were destroying the free food being dropped because the UN and the NATO countries were including birth control pills in the little food packs supposedly to protect the moslem women and girls from pregnancy by rape - they, as Catholics do, do not believe in birth control but believe it to be intrinsically evil, so THAT may also be a factor here with the Afghans if the UN and/or the aiding countries are including birth control again in those food packs, Ebola or no Ebola.

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