posted 11-25-2001 10:15 AM            

As Thermit would say...onwards and upwards.

posted 11-25-2001 11:13 AM            

Good morning to you! I was just absorbing some of your website, it is impressive. It makes me think that part of the problem here is that... you have taken a more feminine approach to your website, not intentionally, it's just your nature, you're a woman. It's not so 'in-your-face'. That's part of the difference I think between Chem11's approach and yours.

I think that, to some extent (at least as far as I'm concerned, unfortunately), when some of the dark-siders played the 'sexist' card, by injecting a somewhat controversial and devisive subject like feminism/womens rights, there has been something like a carryover, or aftertaste designed by the CONartists to infect anyone they could on the opposing side, that is, US! Any attempt to put a wedge between us is a victory for them. Controversial subjects, can and have, IMO, been used as a chink in our armor, to dilute and divide us as a cohesive group.

It's something that the media/TPTB have been doing to us for decades, if not centuries... to keep us at odds. Divide and conquer. (I know this argument has been made before, but maybe sometimes we have to be reminded... or I do anyway). BTW, I'm not saying that feminism/women's rights is not an important issue, but it's use, by a hostile group is a very easy way to stir up and divide a group like us that is/was focussed on a specific problem/phenom, like chemtrails.

One website is not necessarily better than the other, just different. I think maybe that Chem11 has been in the more masculine 'attack' mode during these battles as evidenced by his logic in using a website that can be accessed by other media outlets. That's why initially, (because I'm a man), I may relate more to Chem11's aggressiveness. But it is nice to have the more feminine, or peaceful(?) side presented as it has been in your website. The more ways we can expose this thing, the better!!

As much as I and Chem11 (or you) may like to fight the CONartists, maybe aggressiveness is not always best? When we don't have to confront them, we can steer our aggressiveness towards the problem of CHEMTRAILS and not the problem of phony 'debunkers'!

Although, if some of them are paid to give us a hard time (like JR, et al), then these 'debunkers' really are a major part of the CHEMTRAIL problem!

...oops, there goes my testosterone again!

I knew I heard that somewhere.... "Onward and upward"!

posted 11-25-2001 11:23 AM            

I love it!

posted 11-25-2001 12:21 PM            

Thought you'd LOVE IT Christy...as it was your idea...lol

posted 11-25-2001 12:33 PM            

You're a 100% correct regarding my views on the level of psychological agressiveness that is required to effect change, Defender. While I at times find these tactics a bit distasteful myself, I have learned something else time and time again...

They work.

posted 11-25-2001 05:51 PM            

In my estimation, hypocrisy and duplicity are the pinnacles of moral corrution. You have accused me of having four different online 'personalities', an utterly baseless accusation, yet you refuse to explain the need for your use of the Lord Vader 'personality' at Maverick's board. Hypocrisy.

I see no need to repeat myself, I explained the vader thing in chat, you remember don't you ? when you challenged mav to duke it out in chat, I popped in, and you were so angry in public and awfully polite to him in there...very curious captain...yep....

You rant and rave about Defender's self-censored use of 'profanity' in the Zone but you shrug off your own vulgarity with a meaningless reference to shoes. Hypocrisy.

defender's comment's were mean spirited, I think most folks would agree your an asshole, and at the risk of repeating myself, you, defender and david don't seem to have any problem talking to ladies as if they were a sub-species...very disgusting...

You attempt to swear people to secrecy regarding you own 'true' beliefs about the subject matter of this board, and then claim that this has been your stated position all along. Hypocrisy.

nope, never swore anyone to that, may have said off the record a time or two, I have seen you do the same, and of course that's standard agency tactic's chem, you know that.....btw, hypocrisy is spelled c-a-r-n-i-c-o-m....oddly enough junk science is spelled the same way...how about that...

Make no mistake, Mr. Vader. You're debunker friends were quite correct in cautioning you against participating in the Zone. Only a fool would trust someone who exhibits the stunning level of duplicity that you so clearly posess and I am going to hang you out to dry.

I'm still waiting chemboy....

Your comments regarding Chickie Deb. You have previosly stated that you were "no fan of Deb's" (who is?) but you are a fervant supporter of her board. That strikes me as a bit 'odd', old chap.

lol...not odd at all, deb had a problem with cy and I at her old board, supposedly our latenight conversations were irrelevant, and pushing *quality* topics of her board, I disagreed...for that reason, I am not a big fan..this is public knowledge...you really are not much of a flamer are you chem......

I'm also a bit curious about the circumstance surrounding your original removal from this forum. Do enlighten us as to what behavior on your part prompted this removal...

Thermit removed a bunch of folks, ask him It's his board....actually there were a bunch of folks here on the otherside running around acting like you chem...

I'm not being in the least bit rhetorical here Mr. Vader and I suggest you make some sort of meaningful attempt at replying instead of 'rocking' us all with another three-sentence post.

It was 4 sentences...

and while I'm on a roll when it comes to suggesting things, I would suggest that someone should put forth the idea of ctc returning to having a debunker free environment....It's much easier to dislike you guys when it's like that, and hey maybe the *thesaurus* goddess sedona might return !

besides, my *agency* contract runs out Jan 01, I'm transferring to the gray suits they have a much better benefits package and I'll get to drive a lumina ! , and of course we get to beat up people like you chem and put them in the trunk...couldn't do that in the geo-metro....

yawn....

posted 11-26-2001 01:46 PM            

Could have used '... conspiracy theorist'... but the media has turned that phrase into a very negative "buzz-term". Today, it's comparable to things like "little green men", synonymous with something 'wacko' or 'unbelievable'.

posted 11-26-2001 02:11 PM            

"...talking to ladies as if they were a subspecies"...???

Funny, your boyfriend(?), Chicken***t/Deb/DaNeice says I'm a woman (another one of her? stupid games we've seen before) and you try to pretend I'm a sexist?? What planet are you people from? What color is the sky in your world?

('Deb' questions peoples gender and 'Seeker' posts 'funny' pictures.... everyone has their little trick to make them feel special!)

"...talking to ladies as if they were a subspecies"... Quite a remark from someone who targets and accuses a chemtrail activist of being a child molester, (one of the more serious examples of their smear campaigns)!!

Like 'CS**t/Deb's use of the feminism issue and the 'just a housewife' disguise to stir up controversial and devisive feelings among some of our members, The S***ker and DuncanK's underhanded use of the child molester label against an unsuspecting member of this forum, you 'debunkers' have reached new lows of hateful rhetoric. You are truly a repulsive lot, aren't you? And...you keep trying to maintain this fantasy you seem to have that you work for an 'intelligence' agency like the CIA! That is really sad. I suppose it makes you feel important in some way?

Like Deb/Chicken***t, you try to stir up anger and fear by promoting your sick methods of disinformation and slander, and then try to pretend that nothing happened, feigning innocence.... and THEN.... you come on with a "holier than thou" attitude. Games.

'Seeker' you have a lot in common with 'Deb'. (BTW, your ruse of attempting to distance yourself from her/him/it/them is really pathetic). The use of the name "Truth Seeker" is just another disguise, like nodebunker... the total opposite of what he/she/it does. You are a HATE Seeker at the very least. Like Deb/Half-wit's use of the name 'nodebunker', the name itself is a lie, designed to suck newcomers into thinking they are open-minded, or in favor of the very position they deny and attack! Ridicule, disinfo and lies..., seems they never get tired of it?

These losers wouldn't understand a love-fest if they were invited to one! I think that Love is something you dark-siders don't understand. If you did, you wouldn't waste your time aiming your hateful noise at someone who can't be conned or twisted into your supposed denial of what we all know is real! Though I'm sure that some of you really are just too dense to understand or believe it.

Then again, some of you just argue for the sake of arguing, like my ex-wife. You must have grown up in broken homes, parents arguing all the time? No time for you, so you need to be heard, need to be the center of attention? Maybe your mom was a hooker, or you father used to kick you around, so you hate men, or women? You must be very sad and lonely individuals to spend so much time and effort generating so much hatred for faceless people in chatrooms you don't even know.

But misery 'loves' company and you still have your little 'debunker' sites to play your hate games.

I suggest to anyone, even the 'debunker'/phony critics themselves not to log onto their 'ratholes', even for a laugh. They are poison to the truth. The sooner you get out, the better your chances of recovery and happiness. You meet a much nicer, higher class of people at places like CTC! (I guess that's why they keep coming back here?... deep down, they know they're wrong,... they must even get tired of listening to their own BS!!).

Here's an idea. Try venturing out of your little room, going out and take that big step of actually meeting real people. I know it's scary for you 'debunker' shut-ins, but try it. Turn off your computer, turn off your TV/VCR/Nintendo and go out into the real world! You might learn something. You can escape your little hateful world of 'chemmie hunting', even if only for awhile. Give humanity a chance.

... giving these 'debunkers' any air-time, or bandwidth may only delay us in finding out what chemtrails are... and maybe thats all some of them are trying to do. But 'seeker' and the rest of the 'debunker' creeps aren't nearly smart enough or good enough to stop us.

The Force is with us!!

posted 11-26-2001 09:19 PM            

lol

just in case you don't have "audio" defender...

Yes, well, that's the sort of blinkard philistine pig-ignorance I've come to expect from you non-creative garbage...

T/S

posted 11-26-2001 10:01 PM            

Well I never heard it four months ago Chem11.

According to theseeker's definition: defender's put more than one smiley in his post so he must be a she. Too funny. What with his cyber flirting with amber and Delphi that would make him a cyber lesbian. Then according to defender's view of ChickieDeb, he and Deb have a lot in common...

posted 11-26-2001 11:55 PM            

I'll pull my quote from a fish called wanda...oops

my secret weapon is waiting for chem to really p/o me...

and btw I miss you too lulu

whoopse that was more than one smiley !

T/S

posted 11-27-2001 12:41 AM            

Kinda lonely is right.

whoopse that was more than one smiley

posted 11-27-2001 01:11 AM            

According to theseeker's definition: defender's put more than one smiley in his post so he must be a she. Too funny. What with his cyber flirting with amber and Delphi that would make him a cyber lesbian. Then according to defender's view of ChickieDeb, he and Deb have a lot in common...

cyber lesbian...lol !!!! can I borrow that one !

I better shut up too...would not to give the appearance of actually having fun...no..no..no..

posted 11-28-2001 12:47 PM            

What is your problem with editing seeker? You've made a big deal out of that before... I know it's hard to find fault with my posts, but you are really reaching by criticizing my use of the edit button. You are actually counting the number of edits I make?

And... what is the thing about an extra ??

e tu... Lulu?
(& Amber?)

And what's wrong with flirting with the opposite sex? I was never the one to start it, BTW. Playing/flirting with women who like men, is fun, even when it's online. It's healthy. I like women who like men. True though, you never know what gender you're talking to, have to rely on your own judgement and statements made by the party in question.

Do some of you really have problems with heterosexual males? Is that the best shot you can take at me? That's odd considering your posturing as a self-righteous prude, seeker. You and CS/Deb must be representing the Religious Right, Gay & Lesbian CONtrail contingent here at CTC? (or as seeker always says lol!)... is that too many smiley faces?

Hey Amber & Lulu... if you had a problem with flirting, why did you start it with me? I was just having fun with Delphi, so you must have felt left out? BTW, I didn't bring up the wedgie thing (Lulu), .... or the 'licking, tounge-sticking out face' icon "... between your legs" (I won't mention any names but her initials are...AMBER).

(P.S., if flirting is against the rules Thermit, I'll be the first to stop it, if it is really offensive to the average adult?... though I doubt that's the case?.... But if I have to stop, everyone else should too... Flirting certainly can't be any more offensive than 'debunkers' use of a child molester label as a means of hurting an innocent member(s) or side-tracking a legit debate. ) I like to have as much fun as most people (probably more), but to me Chemtrails are not that funny...as they are with 'debunkers'. That must be at least one of many differences between activists and CONNIEs. Thats another reason why this kind of conflict between us and them is inevitable... when you mix connies with activists.

P.P.S.... what was this thread about before the seeker/debunker attacked it?