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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-22-2001 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well its time for an UPDATE on the WEBSTRANDS issue, I just developed a roll of film that dates from early November through just this last week.
Once again with the help of eyesopen they are now uploaded into the image database.
Here are some WebStrands caught on a car antenna taken November 1st 2001 during webfall




This shot was taken earlier that same day as the riseing sun caught the due drops on the webs on this field

Here is a picture of an empty 12" X 24" field box that had been set down outside on the ground for a couple of hours. The box had no webs on it when it was set outside but this is what i saw when i walked past it after two hours~ i caught the web as a slight breeze caused it to lift up

Here is anoughter shot of a field in early November covered in WebStrand that fell from the sky


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bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-22-2001 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On monday December 17th Poco Loco visited me here in southern oregon. We had been recieving constant rain for the past month, but the day he arrived it quit raining in the early morning.

He arrived about 11 AM and we walked around outside for awhile enjoying one of the few rainfree momments of the last 6 weeks on the Oregon coast. We stopped to see if we could find any Webstrands on the ground~ but there were none. We went inside to look at stuff under the microscope and when he was leaving to go home, we went outside only to realize that webs had been falling from the sky while we were inside. So we grabbed one that was streaming off a car antenna and took it inside to the microscope. Guess what? what appeared to be a single thin strand was in fact made up of at least a hundred ministrands~ some areas looked like a cable had been snapped and the individual strands were all over the place in every dimention~ just like a snapped cable.
The picture below is of the density of web strands that fell in an area about 10" wide by 6" deep, the light level was very low so i had to shot this shot with a wide poen apperature at 1/60th second shutter speed in macro~ so the detail and debth of field is poor.

We then proceeded to take samples which have been sent away for better analysis

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-22-2001 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brookings, Oregon United States of America Date: December 17th 2001 1/2 mile downwind from the pacific ocean
Details: Between 11 AM and 3 PM (witnessed a web fall in a break between rainstorms, there were no webs at 11 AM. This shows a plastic soda straw with web strands wound around the shaft and a few hanging loose. These webs were examined under binocular microscope on site, revealing that each strand was made up of as many as 100 thinner strands woven together.

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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist


East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001

posted 12-22-2001 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations Mark, it looks like you are making progress in this area of the investigation. Your efforts are for all of us, thank you.

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Catnip57
Senior Member


Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001

posted 12-23-2001 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catnip57     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You've got some great pictures here Mark... and I'm glad to see you've also posted some of the camera techniques you used. These shots are so encouraging they make me want to try getting some pictures on my camera just to see how they turn out.

You should get a prize for having the most webs in your area... we usually don't see them quite as thick here... or as frequent

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-24-2001 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well thanks Catnip 57
i think the prise i am getting it that
whatever becomes of me
you will get very soon
thereafter~
they outdid themselves today
uncountless hundreds off shore
got up to a high perch to get a view
smelled like detergent at first
later smoldering garbage
and after that
totally indiscribable

some of the best shots~and this is wierd
came from the $5.99 disposable box camera
but technique is in being at ground central
and seeing
"good luck" for a New Year
to usa all

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-26-2001 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i hate to seem "unappreciative" but
if you are trying to save me with this sky stuff
and my friends end up snuffed
perhaps you could confide in a few folks such as eye
who would help defend our country and planet
but perhaps that is
naughty your goal~eH?

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Thermit
Tech


Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 12-30-2001 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While traveling across Texas day before yesterday, stopped to get gas and observed webstrands caught on the car antenna, as well as lots of webs streaming from the telephone poles, wires, etc. No spiders observed. Deborah said something about talking to a "spider" person, and said they didn't expect that there would be any balloning spiders this late in the year. Need to do more research to see if this is correct...

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-30-2001 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agreed Thermit!
these spiders might even be illeagal aliens for all we know~ "lets see your ittie bitti passport~ and have a look at your shoes fuse"

I just compiled a bunch of web threads
"All the tangle in one spot" so to speek
for those who want to get emeshed in the subject~that goes back a couple of years
here it is

Floating Spiderwebs http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailsphysicalsamplesresearch.showMessage?topicID=64.topic

MICROTHREAD TECHNIQUE http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailsphysicalsamplesresearch.showMessage?topicID=63.topic

>mentions spider webs http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailsphysicalsamplesresearch.showMessage?topicID=62.topic

More Cobwebs on Indiana Today http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailsphysicalsamplesresearch.showMessage?topicID=61.topic

Wispy White things Drifting Down In Dallas http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailsphysicalsamplesresearch.showMessage?topicID=60.topic

weblike stuff coming down right now over my area http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailsphysicalsamplesresearch.showMessage?topicID=59.topic

Fiber sample Tentatively Identified http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailsphysicalsamplesresearch.showMessage?topicID=58.topic

Corkscrew shaped web sample http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailsphysicalsamplesresearch.showMessage?topicID=57.topic

WebStrands Photo http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailsphysicalsamplesresearch.showMessage?topicID=56.topic

'Fibrils' = UV Microfilaments? http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailsphysicalsamplesresearch.showMessage?topicID=52.topic

"Spiderwebs and Biological Warfare" http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailschemtrails.showMessage?topicID=5521.topic

"WebStrands Photo" (two pages starting here) http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000972.html

"HiGh HoPes~Spiders in Space~Spiders in Goats" http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000324-38.html
someone other than me added the link below
edited 1-12-02 (this time intentionally)
added 1-4-02
William Thomas 1999 http://www.globenet.free-online.co.uk/haarp/haarp.htm
HARRPy New Year

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-30-2001 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bonus points for reading these threads

"Hopi legend Webs?" http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailschemtrails.showMessage?topicID=4909.topic

"Seeing Sky Sparklies and Sky Webs PLS try this" (3 pages start here)( this is already archived) http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailschemtrails.showMessage?topicID=3853.topic

"Unknown Substance Rains Down" http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailschemtrails.showMessage?topicID=5415.topic
see also

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=2474980&BRD=2101&PAG=461&dept_id=417987&rfi=6

"Mysterious Substance" http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailschemtrails.showMessage?topicID=5395.topic

"Weird Things Under the Microscope" http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailschemtrails.showMessage?topicID=5489.topic

"White stuff fallin" http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailschemtrails.showMessage?topicID=5486.topic

"Pt. Arthur TX....Trails and Webs" http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailschemtrails.showMessage?topicID=5643.topic

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-30-2001 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dUh! sometimes you get what you ask for...
and i asked Clifford to put these sites "UpStairs" on the toplevel
and he did
so now they have a new address here http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailsphysicalsamplesresearch

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-31-2001 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THERE BACK!
I was outside working at 11:45 AM and no webs and no spiders~ then I went in for lunch.
I started working outside at 12:30 PM and had that unpleasent webs in the face and neck feeling~ and sure enough there has been another webfall. This one is much more intense than the one when Poco Loco was here a few weeks ago
AND this one includes Spiders!
Yes they are in the webs as they land on my truck. I have caught about 12 of them into a film can, they are about 1.5 MM long with a dark body of what looks like two segments, they have long red to brown legs.They come in sizes of less than a millimeter (say a half MM) to more than two MM.
The bigger ones are redder looking. They keep falling as i write this. The light is too high and difuse to get good contrast on the webs ~ i just tried, but i got a couple photos of the spiders, in full macro they still are but a dot on the screen.
I just caught twenty more spiders off of one window.
Some places on my truck roof there are twenty per square foot~ other places there are none. If you get too close with a camera lens they can "jump" or fly a few inches away.
This is too creepy~ i can feel them on me. got to go, mark

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Thermit
Tech


Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 12-31-2001 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool, get pictures!

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Catnip57
Senior Member


Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001

posted 12-31-2001 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catnip57     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Mark for taking the time to post all those links about the webs... I only had a chance to read a couple so far but there's a lot of good information here for further research.

Now... your last post states that you're getting an infestation of spiders and webs... this is most interesting... and you can feel them crawling on you too? Have you ever encountered this experience before? I don't know how many years you've been farming but if I had spiders falling and crawling on me I'd remember that experience for a long time.

The thing that strikes me as rather odd is the time of year for this to occur...I mean really, it's the dead of winter and I'm guessing it's cold right now where you live. I'll probably catch flack for this... but this spider drop almost seems staged! I'm probably wrong though... it's nothing to worry about... right.

I would think that one of those spider experts would be a good person to talk to about this latest event... just to verify the species of spiders you've found and also the fact that they're floating around in the winter months just to see what he has to say.

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 12-31-2001 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
started "gardening" in 1967
been farming for a living since 1976
you bet these little dudettes will get to a lab
know that i never ever had
these webs in my face like this

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 01-01-2002 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DISCOVER Vol. 22 No. 9 (September 2001)
Table of Contents

The Biology of ... Spider Silk
Arachnomania
The race to synthesize the world's strongest fiber
By Robert Kunzig
http://www.discover.com/sept_01/featbiology.html

"More research has been done on the dragline silk of Nephila than on any other kind. But it is a long way from being understood. A single thread of that silk is perhaps three to five micrometers across. When Vollrath started looking into it, people thought dragline silk was a relatively simple composite material, like fiberglass, consisting of stiff sheets of crystallized protein floating in an elastic rubbery matrix. But that, Vollrath has found, is not the structure of the whole thread; it's the structure of a single filament inside the thread— and there may be thousands of such filaments, each only a few nanometers across, too small to be seen with a typical microscope, and perhaps bundled in some way that has yet to be discerned."
This is NOT what Poco Loco and I saw~ we could see the individual strands under the microscope

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 01-01-2002 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just reread ToCarms
"Spiderwebs and Biological Warfare" http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailschemtrails.showMessage?topicID=5521.topic
"ALONG THESE LINES FALLS ONGOING
U.S. MILITARY RESEARCH INTO
ARTHROPOD (i.e., spiders) VECTORS.
After all, nature's own method of
transferring some of the most
disastrous diseases, such as malaria
or dengue, is to enclose them within
the mosquito. AS UNDERSTANDING
OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN
PATHOGENS AND ARTHROPODS
GROWS, 'MORE EFFICIENT (OR EVEN
TOTALLY NEW) HOST-VECTOR
SYSTEMS" should be possible,
Geissler has pointed out."

and i had been thinking since yesterday of the probability of enough spiders leaveing the nearest upwind land mass (China, and somehow launching themselves high enough to propel across 5000 miles of Pacific ocean to land on the seashore at a density of several per square foot.
I wondered just how many landed a few feet too soon and dround in the ocean. I wondered how many had been caught in the many rain storms we have been having dayly for the last two months and were forced down into the ocean. The rediculously small fraction that would survive the traverse across the ocean to land where i work would mean that astronomical numbers would have left in the first place.
I did a little scouting around yesterday afternoon to see how widespread the webfall was. I went 13 miles north up the coast and found just a few had fallen there~ it must have appeared wierd as a guy drives up to a lookout, gets out of the car, examines a barbwire fence strand, gets back in car and leaves~ while everyone else is looking at the ocean! Strange tymes

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001

posted 01-02-2002 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Strange times indeed. Just wanted to say, that I too was struck by the Hopi prophecy, which I read about the same time that I became able to SEE the strands. The prophecy is generally attributed to electrical wires crisscrossing our land, but when I first read it my heart skipped a beat. Something in me KNEW that it was these webs, not wires.

Since snow has such a great ability to clean crap out of the sky, we shall see what the snow brings.

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Thermit
Tech


Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 01-02-2002 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For whatever it is worth, I posed (somewhat incoherantly) some questions to a bug expert with some spider knowledge...

quote:


Subject: Webstrands and Ballooning Spiderlings


Question:

A resident of the Oregon coast area is currently seeing large amounts of webstrands in their area for miles along the coast. Small spiders are sometimes seen when this occurs. These spiders are 0.5 to 2.0 millimeters in size, have red to brown colored legs and a dark body. Any ideas on what type of spider this may be? The wind predominantly comes from the ocean there, so one question is where are these massive numbers of spiders coming from? I'm currently seeing these webstrands in Texas as well, but no spiders. What times of year are these ballooning spiders expected to be seen? Thanks!


Answer:

Dear Mark:

I am not sure exactly what you are asking, as it appears you have answered your own question. They would indeed be juvenile spiderlings, dispersing by "ballooning." It is next to impossible even for experts to identify immature spiders. Determination of spiders to species requires the presence of mature genitalia, and identity to family depends on the eye arrangement, something requiring high magnification.

I am not suprised at ballooning spiders in Texas at this time of year, but the Oregon phenomenon seems unusual, unless it is near Brookings, or some other locale that gets unseasonably warm :-) Spiderlings have been collected high in the atmosphere, though, so I suppose they could be coming from overseas or something. You might consult a meteorologist about it!

Thank you for your question, and Happy New Year!

Sincerely,

Eric


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Catnip57
Senior Member


Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001

posted 01-02-2002 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catnip57     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm currently reading an interesting book entitled Biohazard written by Ken Alibek who was formerly involved in the Soviet Union's creating and stockpiling of biological weapons.
I highly recommend it to anyone interested in finding out all the various ways that country found to improve deadly strains of viruses and bacteria. They experimented and improved some of the worst and nastiest strains of anthrax, smallpox, ebola... etc..etc... You name it they probably tried it including using genetic engineering. The goal of the Soviet union was to create viruses and bacteria that were resistant to several types of antibiotics just to make sure there was no cure and no hope for the victims.

This book covered several really interesting details about the history of bio research including some ideas that were used by people in the fourteenth century. I thought I'd include a paragraph from the book to give everyone an idea of some of the possibilities..

The earliest recorded use of Y. pestis in war was in the fourteenth century, when a Tatar army conquered Kaffa, in present-day Crimea, by catapulting the bodies of plague victims over the walls of the town. During World War II, leaders of the Japanese bacteriological warfare program turned to plague because an attack could be concealed as a natural outbreak. But there were drawbacks: when they tried to drop bombs filled with plague from aircraft, the explosion killed the bacteria. The commanders finally settled on a more effective method of delivery: they blanketed the target area with billions of plague-infected fleas.

There were numerous other stories of countries using biologicals in a fashion that made epidemics look like natural occurrences.

Has anyone noticed the stories on Rense about all the Doctors specializing in microbiology disappearing and being murdered?

Now about these little spiders that Mark caught.... If fleas can be infected with plague...perhaps spiders could be infected with something nasty too? Just a thought... though not a very pleasant one.

Let us know what you find out about the spiders Mark.

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 01-02-2002 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Catnip i read that book, and more~ seems everyone on this side of the pond, wants Ken to "shut up" about it
Did you ever read Kens warning (not widely published) about the aerosole mental deabilitation program?
it was in the RESISTOR subscription ($100/year) newsletter
"repeted applications were nessesary
and the result was something like you see around you every daze"
it was gene spliced~GoD onloy knowes compilation of WHO knows what
cosisting of every genera from variouse plant animal and germ families
a whiches brew
zombies that think itz all normal

too everyone~ we had anougher webfall today
pretty slight and timed just after noon~ ceaseing by 2 PM
no spiders to be found
the aracknids took a ride today
will tell you when i no more

Too Thermit~ interesting that BROOKINGs was named in your reply~ is Broookings renouned for unusual spider flight somewhere?
mayhaps the brookings effect is why i see?

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Catnip57
Senior Member


Central Washington
527 posts, Apr 2001

posted 01-03-2002 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catnip57     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well... I'm not surprised that there's been an effort to "shut up" Mr. Alibek after all, he's telling all the nasty little secrets about what the Soviet Union was doing. I'm sure none of us here feel like our own country was too far behind in it's own field of biological research.

Makes me wonder what all those dissappearing microbiology doctors knew. Knowing too much about a subject can be hazardous to one's health it appears. Even the one big time doctor that defected from the Soviet Union to go to the UK has recently turned up dead. Hmmmm.....

I've never read Ken's warning in the Resistor.. I bet that was quite the eye opener. I wonder if they have a web site for folks to go visit?

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 01-04-2002 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a rare mild day on the south coast
\no rain which is unusual these daze
a few stripes on the way to work
ground haze over your eyeballs
and afternoon a webfall again
this one heavy and documemented

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bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 01-04-2002 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just keeping a public record
webs fell again today
no noticeable spidies
a fairly substantial amount
fell after 12 noon and glimered
in the black and orange bar coded "sunset"
picture again~ (note)grass/earth frame 9-10

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 01-10-2002 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
public record again 1-10-2002
early morning colored sky with black "clouds"
corona at 11 AM
webfall at noon (with spiders)
moderately heavy web coverage on ground
same spiders as in late December
samples taken~ no pictures this time (same ole shit)
golden sheen to fibers~ length over 40"
35 to 50 per square foot coverage
no wind
bar code clouds interpersed with red and buff
general agitation state in the late afternoon
"sented "detergent" drop locallized in front yard 7 PM pacific time
(non detectable 100 feet away)
over and out~mark sky~ your gueini human on the ground...

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