posted 01-19-2002 12:15 AM            

I personally believe that the little green men are actually little green army men. The techknowledgy on the consumer market is known to be 15-20 years behind the military tech, so it makes sense that we don't know that it is actually more like 50 years. I've seen some bizzare things flying around during military tests. I live near Tinker AFB and spent many nights watching stars that aren't stars(they hang out in pairs and shoot fake shooting stars at each other And thats when I discovered the clouds that aren't clouds, and the webs that aren't webs. TPTB have mastered camo and propaganda and if you aren't observant and patient you'll never see them. Its a crazy, messed up, fascinating world we live in and I can't keep my eyes off the skies.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is...They aren't ever going to come out and announce on CNN what they have been up to for the last 50 years...However, if you pay attention they will give you tidbits here and there and slowly you can connect the dots. They know we're watching more and more in growing numbers. So, is HR 2977 their way of saying "Okay Okay, but you didn't hear it from us"? What about Nexiabiotech? If they can figure out how to make synthetic webs from goats surely they have enough greymatter to not publish top secret military programs on their web. Doesn't it make more sense they were allowed to throw us some crumbs?

posted 01-19-2002 12:30 AM            

i was so WoWed with teflon "no stick" pans that i forgot to notice
i could go fast to wait in my corvette
in a fast food line

i would like to think the best
but have to use instink rather blunt
than suscume to psyops multiwave intell

[Edited 5 times, lastly by mark sky on 01-19-2002]

posted 01-19-2002 12:01 PM            

quote:

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I guess the point I'm trying to make is...They aren't ever going to come out and announce on CNN what they have been up to for the last 50 years...However, if you pay attention they will give you tidbits here and there and slowly you can connect the dots. They know we're watching more and more in growing numbers. So, is HR 2977 their way of saying "Okay Okay, but you didn't hear it from us"?

Just wanted to ramble.....I'd like to believe this country isn't as evil as it sometimes appears. Breathe easy.

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I hear ya Bob (and Mark Sky & Delphi). If I'm understanding you. I think TPTB have a 'bend but don't break' philosophy, (like all good megolithic disinformation providers). If the 'sheeple' (as they see us), start getting too close to the truth, and they can't be totally bamboozled anymore (like some of these pathetic 'debunkers'/lemmings are to this very day!)... then TPTB will throw a few crumbs, to serve their purpose of damage control.

My hope and belief is that when the REAL powers of LIGHT get through, even into the upper echelon of that dark-side of TPTB, then there will be positive change. Though TPTB usually seem to try to make it as bloody (and profitable) as they can.

Due to the compartmentalization of govt/military/media/corporate world etc., when the 'lower' ranks/sectors of these organizations know what's going on, the best, brightest?, most courageous of them will do what they can to break the system. In time it will topple, with (hopefully) something better to replace it.

So, on the other hand, it may be that HR2977 is a real break, and a reflection of the Light forces (with or without influence from TPTB) changing this situation for the better.

Either way, it's a sign of positive change, IMO. Even if chemtrails should have some kind of positive purpose (innoculation), isn't it better to know the truth (for a change)?

In the case of JFK, other assassinations, and various other organized, criminal actions, it's taken independent investigations (in spite of the phony plants and 'debunkers' thrown in), to get even some of the truth out. TPTB didn't have the Internet to deal with in the 60's though, so I do believe they are not as 'secure' as they were 'back in the day', though that may not be a safe assumption to make at this point. TPTB must use the Internet like any other media source to lie, cheat and steal as they always do. But unlike TV & radio 'programming', controlled print media sources and all of Hollywood's efforts, the Internet is at least interactive and it's harder for them to force-feed us or sell us whatever they happen to be selling at any given time.

I think we're doing the right thing by keeping vigilant from all angles, communicating and keeping it together while holding those Light forces in mind/spirit for direction and encouragement. I don't think the bad guys have a chance in the long run.

posted 01-20-2002 11:58 PM            

Probably 15 yrs ago a friend of mine turned me on to a Sci Fi series. The name of the series was, the Lensman Series, written by E.E. Doc Smith and, if I remember correctly, it was copywrited in 1948. There's seven bks in the series. Anyway, the bad guys in this tale covering many universes and eons of time where known as the Boskonians. The hierarchy of Boskonians was compartmentalized ie., each section had a "Boss" and to any in that section that "Boss" was "The Boss" and there was no other in existence above. However, that was not the case for that Boss was actually at the lowest end of another section above which had it's Boss (actual source was always hidden). This compartmentalization went on and on and on like this. As it turns out the actual source of evil that is being fought in this story exists well out side of this universe. Now, this series made light bulbs light up for me. Then about 10 years later I read the bk, Gods of Eden by William Bramley, and a great deal more shifting took place in my universe.

So my point? Well, I believe that what we are aware of now in the way of overt and covert attacks upon us is only a miniscule fraction of what is actually taking place. In other words, the "Big Picture" is really BIG! Bigger in scope than we could ever begin to imagine. Whoever we think TPTB might be, I don not think, are any where close to being the actual PTB.

Basically, I believe that taking into consderation all the ramifications, manifestations, facets, etc. of what's going on (good and evil)on this planet, and most probably beyond, boils down to a game that consists of two viewpoints: The viewpoint of the Slavemaster and the viewpoint of the Slave. And this scenario of Slave trying to gain freedom from the Slave Master gets dramatized again and again and again in microcosm after microcosm after microcosm. The script is always the same. Only the props get changed.

Probably one of the most difficult things to confront, if not the most, is evil. Evil is very hard to look at, continue to be aware of and then not flinch while doing so. And, this is why so many people just don't. To do so overwhelms them. It's much less trouble and discomfort to stay asleep.

Any tool TPTB use to suppress and control the slaves eg., the media and the internet, etc. we, the slaves, also have to use in our fight for freedom against our slave masters.

I think that this forum and any others like it are incredible. I also believe that it is very worthwhile for us all to discuss what we discuss, ask the questions we do, post the observations we observe as well as joke and laugh along the way, but not joke in such a way as to degrade the purpose or our fellow Freedom Fighter(s). Degrading under the guise of "joking" "Just kidding" is an enemy line and used by the Slave Masters to introvert a group. A group that turns in on itself is, of course, done for.

There is a price for Freedom and that price is paid in each of us maintaining a constant vigilence and then being willing to fight, in any way we can, against those who would like nothing more than to keep our Freedom from us.

You know, one of the common tactics of the slavemasters is to manuver the slaves into this false belief that they aren't slaves - that they're actually free. Permit some protion of them to be slave masters too (slaves of slaves). Allow some of them to have far less freedoms than others thus giving those with less barriers a false feeling of being "free" or "better than" ie., the social class system. This keeps the slaves fighting with one another (wrong targets) so as not to be able to see or even think that there any other source of evil. It's a great way to keep the real game hidden.

I do believe that there is a way out of this trap and that belief is the second step. The first is becoming cognizant of the fact that there is a trap to get out of.

Whoa, I've got to rein myself in here.

Question: What, exactly, do we know about CTs? We have, I'm sure, thousands of photos between us, we have report after report of a wide diversity of CT manifestation including these spider like webs, but what is actually known and documented to be true about CTs???

I think that if a summary isn't being made somewhere of what we actually know to date then we had ought to start one.

Hoople (Yes, as in Mott the Hoople)

posted 02-02-2002 11:48 PM            

Did you happen to get the lab report from Rusty? If so, any comments?

I am quite thankful to have all this data and viewpoints on this oddity of webstrands falling from the sky. Now, if it happens to happen where I'm located I'll know what steps to take.

I don't have a single concrete datum to base this on, but I perceive that spiders don't have a damn thing to do with these webs other than, perhaps, inspiration.

posted 02-03-2002 12:05 AM            

Isn't it interesting that the lab couldn't tell what it was?? I sure hope you'll keep us posted on the outcome of that research.

We have "webs" float down all the time around here, but NOTHING LIKE THAT STUFF! Our's are just long, 4 to 5 ft., and shiny, but lacking in spiders, just like the rest of the "webs" in these pictures. We always get sicker when they come down, too.

Thanks for your excellent contributions to this forum, marksky. Your humor is beyond genius!

MollyGainYa, with love and "webs"

posted 03-18-2002 08:20 AM            

Like Daniels, fishermen with decades on the water say they've often seen red tide but they've never seen anything like this " it doesn't have a foul smell, it isn't red tide and it isn't oil. They describe it as viscous and slimy water with what looks like spider webs in it.

posted 04-12-2002 07:36 PM            

Spider Webs & Biological Warfare
"Increased Environmental Survivability
of BW Agents"

"Aerosolization is the most efficient
method for disseminating a biological
agent. The problem is that most BW
agents have evolved for survival
inside living organisms; only a few,
such as anthrax, are hardy enough
to withstand atmospheric challenge.
Microencapsulation has been applied
with increasing success to this problem.
Microencapsulation is a method of
enclosing microscopic drops or
particles within individual protective
sheaths composed of certain organic
compounds. The technique, introduced
in 1954, is used from everything from
carbonless copy forms to time-released
pharmaceuticals. Aerosolized agents
may soon be protected from the sun's
radiation, immediate drying, widely
varying temperatures, the explosive
force of munitions, EVEN THE STRESS
OF SPRAYINGS FROM JET AIRCRAFT
TRAVELING AT SUPERSONIC SPEEDS.
(caps/emphasis mine).

"In addition to microencapsulation,
rDNA could be used to 'toughen' a
BW agent. The genes known to
control cellular repair could be
manipulated to enhance the survival
of an agent faced by these kinds
of environmental stresses.

"ALONG THESE LINES FALLS ONGOING
U.S. MILITARY RESEARCH INTO
ARTHROPOD (i.e., spiders) VECTORS.
After all, nature's own method of
transferring some of the most
disastrous diseases, such as malaria
or dengue, is to enclose them within
the mosquito. AS UNDERSTANDING
OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN
PATHOGENS AND ARTHROPODS
GROWS, 'MORE EFFICIENT (OR EVEN
TOTALLY NEW) HOST-VECTOR
SYSTEMS" should be possible,
Geissler has pointed out."

- quoting page 99 - from the book:
"Gene Wars - Military Control Over
The New Genetic Technologies"
by Charles Piller & Keith R. Yamamoto
ISBN 0-688-07050-7 (c) 1988
Library of Congress UG447.8.P54 - 1988

Inside jacket panel quote:

"GENE WARS is an arresting book about
the incredible dangers and implications
of genetic engineering harnessed to
biological warfare. This book should be
read, pondered and then acted upon
by all who are concerned about the
future of life on our planet. IT IS A
SPECIAL CHALLENGE TO ACTION BY
THE SCIENTIFIC AND MEDICAL
COMMUNITIES. (caps/emphasis mine)"
- Senator George S. McGovern"

FROM
solsystem
Registered User
(10/4/01 7:22:30 pm)
Reply Mysterious Substance
This story was released on Thursday Oct 4 on 810 KGO Radio. The incident occurred on Sunday September 30.

A woman in the Napa California called in to report a plane flying overhead distributing some type of white looking substance. She called the local police and they came out and discovered some type of sticky looking synthetic substance. The materials were turned over to the FBI who stated the materials could have come from spider webs at the higher elevations. The plane may have been just a coincidence.

Maybe one way to bring about public awareness of the Contrail issue is tell people that we may be under attack by some unidentified aircraft.

FROM Anne
Registered User
(10/5/01 9:55:18 pm)
I heard the FBI said that the substance was "organic", but did not say what
it contained. The woman lived near Lake Berryesa and said that the substance
was cotton like. I will try to check the papers for more info.

FROM daystar1952
Registered User
(10/29/01 12:22:34 pm)
Reply Weird things under microscope

Today I had out my microscope and I was looking at different webs, some from outside that were single strands, some from outside that were cobwebby and ones from inside that were cobwebby. I also had one of 3 samples left of a long thicker strand that I collected at the end of Aug. I had an infared spectroscopy done , which the company compared to the spectroscopy of a spider web done by a Japanese company. They were pretty similar so The Materials Institute that was analyzing it for me said their opinion was that it was spider silk. However a biology teacher who used to work in a lab looked at it under the scope with me and also looked at the spectrographs and he said twice that his opinion was that it wa synthetic. It had very striking corkscrews. I know that real spider webs can have corkscrews also but there's just something about this. I'm trying to decide whether to send it to a spider specialist who works for our agricultural extension service. The webs , from outside that I looked at under the scope today ( the cobwebs, not the single strands) had these funny things that looked like starfish all interspersed within the web. Could it be some sort of baby spiders? They looked like they could be organisms. They reminded me of a cross between a starfish and an anenome, because these sort of star shaped things had soft tentacles that could be spread out in different directions from the center. Hope I'm making some sense. Does this sound vaguely familiar to anyone?

FROM Moose
(10/29/01 2:21:42 pm)
Reply Re: Weird things under microscope
Question: How powerful is your microscope, Daystar?

FROM daystar1952
(10/29/01 5:21:44 pm)
Reply Weird things
The power I was using was 100x. I keep trying to use the highest power but I can never see anything

FROM TOCarm
(10/30/01 7:40:32 am)
Reply To Daystar1952 - Re: Webs

From the research I've done on
spiders and their web-spinning
techniques/abilities, natural
spider web strands will resemble
the way rope is manufactured.
The 'single strand' will actually
be found to consist of several
smaller strands which are woven
or "spun" together to form a
single filament.

Artificially manufactured "spider
silk" will undoubtedly appear as
a mono-filament, that is, it will
appear much like a wire, extruded
through a die.

I have a couple of scientific and
scholarly references about spiders
and on the methods by which they
"spin" their threads listed in an
'open letter' which I've long since
posted here under the subject
title "Chemtrail Open Letter".

I suggest simply going down to your
local public library and looking up
what sorts of books they have on
spiders - any good book on these
arthropods will go into depth as to
how spiders 'spin' their webs and
the 'tell-tale' signs within the
structure/nature of those web
strands that are hallmarks of NATURAL
spiders' silk.

FROM daystar1952
(10/30/01 9:07:49 am)
Reply Webs
Good idea, I fact I am at the library now. I've only been looking up info on the web. I don'yt know why I didn't think of it. Thanks

FROM TOCarm
(10/30/01 5:14:50 pm)
Reply Daystar1952- Way to go!
-
Dear Daystar1952,

WAY TO GO, brother! The public library
has virtually EVERYTHING UNDER THE
SUN that any 'true blue' chemtrail
activist NEEDS in the way of research
and references.

While you are milling about the place,
I suggest seeing whether your library
has a copy of the book entitled
"Gene Wars" subtitled something to
the effect of 'US Military Control
Over the New Genetic Technologies'
or something very close to that.

Within that book you will find the
author (Charles Pillar if I recall
correctly and one Dr. Yamamato
with a PhD in microbiology if I
also recall correctly) describing
a biological warfare delivery
mechanism via aircraft aerosol
spraying using, of all things,
SPIDER WEBS!

Also, you'll find all sorts of good
books on BIOLOGICAL and CHEMICAL
WARFARE at the public library.

All this 'mysterious chemtrail stuff'
is not 'mysterious' at all...it's here
at the public library and it is also
in THE PUBLIC DOMAIN!

Trouble is, too few Americans seem
to "give a sh#t" about anyone except
themselves nowadays! If it "doesn't
cause them pain" and if it "doesn't
affect their bank accounts/portfolios",
then IT DOESN'T RATE their attention!

FROM mark sky
(1/5/02 7:04:14 pm)
Reply so true TOCarm
bumpin the "web sites" tonight

FROM Moose
(1/6/02 5:41:54 am)
Reply Re: Weird things
Sorry I didn't notice your response to my question earlier, Daystar, but I have a couple of suggestions regarding your problem when you try to use the highest power on your microscope. The trick to finding your sample under high power is to keep in mind that because of the optical properties of a microscope, any movement of your slide (as viewed through the microscope) must be in the *opposite direction* from that in which you wish to move the slide. For example if you wish to examine the right-hand side of your sample more closely (as viewed from the microscope) you have to move the slide to the left. If you want to view the lower part of the sample, carefully push the slide down, not up. Also you'll have a better chance of high-power viewing if you move the sample as close to the center of the picture as possible while you have it under low-power magnification, and THEN switch to a higher power. To illustrate: Let's say your sample fills the bottom third of the view under low magnification. If you switch to a higher magnification more than likely you will see absolutely nothing since you are now looking at a smaller area (the blank area centered just above the sample viewed previously under the lower power.) Recalling that your sample was at the bottom of the last picture, you move the slide ever so carefully DOWN (while looking through your microscope)...*not* up as common sense would seem to dictate. I'm recalling this stuff from my high school biology class so if anybody has any corrections or further suggestions please elaborate.

FROM daystar1952
(1/6/02 6:27:08 am)
Reply Web strands and TV
Thanks moose for the good microscope advice. I will try that method next time. A gentleman called me the other day and asked me to be on his cable TV show as a guest who who speak on Lyme Disease. He does all sorts of controversial shows on One World Govt, emerging diseases and he's done a little on chemtrails. I told him that I didn't really want to be a guest at this point due to problems concerning my cognitive abilities due to Lyme. I can write OK cause I have time to stop and think but when speaking I can forget what I'm saying in the middle of a sentence. Anyway, I had a cable show myself for half a year were I would play other people's tapes such as chemtrail tapes, Gulf War Illness etc. However because of memory problems I just couldn't "get" the editing process so I had to give it up. This gentleman said we could work together, meaning that I could send him info, documents, ideas, photos and tapes. I am in the process of putting together a package for him of different videos and I'm sending him a microphotograph of my web sample with the companies evaluation, the biology teacher's opinion and a letter from Professor Spratt which documents how back in the 70s they were experimenting with spraying biologicals on spider strands or webs to see how long the bacteria would survive. If anyone has anything they would want shown on this show or thinks of anything that should be included , let me know. I'm hoping that someone who knows about spider webs will get in touch with this producer after seeing photos and info on the show

FROM Manon Lachasseuse
Registered User
(1/6/02 10:09:50 am)
Reply Re: Web strands and TV
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you should get clifford carnicom to do the show, or at least phone-in...

FROM daystar1952
Registered User
(1/6/02 11:16:59 am)
Reply call in
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I thought that would be a good idea too however I asked him if he did callins and they don't. Maybe I'll push that aspect because there is really no local. I don't feel I have any credentials . Many of us here know quite abit ( about what we don't know :=) ) but I think a title of some sort is needed to make one credible

FROM mark sky
Registered User
(1/6/02 2:00:05 pm)
Reply daystar1952
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congratulations on your TV contact
there are a bunch of references on this second page of
WebStrands that you could use, in addition to the photos www.chemtrailcentral.com/...972-2.html

FROM Joe Hillshoist
Registered User
(1/7/02 9:57:35 pm)
Reply Re: daystar1952
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Daystar you have the "street cred" if not the university credibility. All you have done is research well and accurately.

I say go for it mate, you will be great.

FROM mark sky
Registered User
(1/7/02 11:43:22 pm)
Reply daystar
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i work with experts and farmers
every day
if i had to stake my life
if i had to risk my "fortune"
the dirt would have my vote
life counts
every momment
what have you to give
someone special shall hear
stutter as you may
the unperfect shall rejoice
a planet of misfits
some stuffed into suits
pretend and puff up in attitude

the effected reach out and touch those
ment to be

more falls from carnicom
i catch and paste below

stevie
Registered User
(1/13/02 8:57:16 am)
Reply spider webs in october and november
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I haven't posted since early November.I had posted about the spider web substance over my area and the symptoms that I as well as my 3 year old dog had. I lost my dear little friend the 30th of December with what started as a mysterious illness after he came in contact with the spider web substance.I was concerned at the time and had even contacted our local health dept. whom actually laughed at me and said it was only spider webs. That was in the last part of October and after 2,000 dollars in veterinary bills and a horrible nightmare watching as my beloved friend kept getting worse,He lost his battle at age 3 of unspecified cause.He had enlarged lymph nodes and was almost completely paralyzed when he died. I think this isn't a coincidence, this is scary business as I too have had strange symptoms including breathing problems and fatique.I think we are all sitting ducks. Stevie

Manon Lachasseuse
Registered User
(1/13/02 9:48:45 am)
Reply Re: spider webs in october and november
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i'm so sorry to hear about your friend...

but if i were you, i'd ask to see the blood analysis the doctor took, or if there's still any blood sample left, take it to an independent lab for analysis. that way, you might have some proof of foul play? ... it does seem more than coincidental.

are other people in your area feeling sick?

stevie
Registered User
(1/14/02 11:12:48 am)
Reply Re: spider webs in october and november
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Thank you for your post. I did see the blood results it only showed anemia. Whats odd looking back on this ,the guy across from me,came down with lymphoma, I also noticed alot of dead birds in the area. I live on 10 acres in a remote area and there is always small planes etc and alot of chemtrails.I couldn't get any blood because I had my dear friend cremated, but I wished I would have had him autopsied now. I am so frightened now I feel like moving, but I guess that doesn't stop who ever is trying to do us all in. Stevie

TOCarm
Registered User
(1/17/02 12:25:27 pm)
Reply Stevie: Spiderwebs
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Stevie,

COLLECT as much of the spiderweb
like material that you can in
zip-lock bags, clean plastic jars,
whatever using tongs or some
such utencil while wearing disposable
latex gloves and dust mask over
your nose/mouth. If you can,
REFRIGERATE the stuff. If you can
TAKE PICTURES of the web stuff
laying all over your property, please
do so.

Once you have enough 'samples'
and photos, PLEASE contact your
local/county/state sherrif/police
departments giving them those
pictures and collected web evidence.

Perhaps you can't bring back your
beloved pet but, by gosh, you sure
can make the SOBs "pay" in some
way or fashion!

-TOCarm

p.s. If you find alot of dead birds
on your property following chemtrial
spraying, might I suggest you
collect/preserve their bodies. Again
FREEZING them will help preserve
any remaining biological evidence.

TOCarm
Registered User
(1/17/02 5:39:06 pm)
Reply Dear Stevie - Your Pet Dog & Dead Birds
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Stevie,

In your 1/13/02, 8:57:16 AM posting, you
wrote:

"He [your pet dog] had ENLARGED LYMPH
NODES and was almost completely
paralyzed."

In your 1/14/02, 11:12:48 AM posting, you
wrote:

"...I also noticed ALOT OF DEAD BIRDS."

Stevie, PRINT OUT the following pages
from Rense's website AND SHOW THEM
to your local vet, your local/county/state
law enforcement agencies as well as your
local/county/state health officials ASAP
("as soon as possible")!!!

rense.com/general18/mplas.htm
rense.com/general2/up.htm
rense.com/ufo6/plumups.htm
rense.com/health/gwicontag.htm
rense.com/general17/catt.htm
rense.com/general18/mcc.htm
rense.com/general7/mycro.htm
rense.com/general3/chemill.htm

- TOCarm

stevie
Registered User
(1/17/02 6:27:27 pm)
Reply Re: Stevie: Spiderwebs
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I feel so stupid because I had collected some of the stuff and I did take pictures,but by the time everyone told me how stupid I was or how funny it was that I actually thought it was chemical not spider webs, I threw the stuff away.I feel really bad now thinking I could have done something to have helped my (dog) I hate calling him that.I did call the sheriff and the health dept. when it happened and they said it was spiders, and at the time I did see a lot of baby spiders everywhere so I dismissed it but now after reading all those articles I truly believe it is something that was dumped on us. this is really scary,what the heck are we to do besides build underground shelters and live in seclusion? thank you for your post stevie

TOCarm
Registered User
(1/17/02 6:58:51 pm)
Reply Dear Stevie
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Don't feel bad. Just remember
that the NEXT TIME such an
event occurs, then by all means
DO collect the 'web material'.

To be sure, there IS a natural
occurance wherein spiders DO
issue forth streams of 'web
material' called GOSSAMER.

If you should see anything that
might appear like 'web material',
then collect it anyways.

Inspection of this web material
under a very, very powerful
microscope (electron beam type)
will be able to distinguish the
'natural stuff' from the

mre808
Registered User
(1/18/02 11:19:44 am)
Reply Re: Dear Stevie
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Add these to your list to print. I've made some hard copies and I suggest everyone else does as well.
www.eurekalert.org/pub_re...011102.php
www.latimes.com/news/scie...-headlines
www.nexiabiotech.com/

TOCarm
Registered User
(1/18/02 12:09:03 pm)
Reply Dear mre808 & Stevie - re: 'spider webs'
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mre808:

Darn good links you've researched!

For BOTH you and Stevie, might I
suggest you read the book research
citations I listed in a topic I started
here on Cliff's site entitled:
"Chemtrail Open Letter"

I just checked at that topic of mine
is on page 4 of 20, listed towards
the bottom of page 4 (as of now).

Please read the citations I quoted
from the books enumerated with
the following "reference numbers"
in that 'Chemtrail Open Letter':

"4) 'Gene Wars - Military Control
Over The New Genetic Technologies'
by Charles Piller & Keith R. Yamamoto
ISBN 0-688-07050-7

"5) 'Spiders And Their Kin'
by Herbert W. & Lorna R. Levi
ISBN 0-307-24025-5

"7) 'American Spiders - 2nd Edition'
by Willis J. Gertsch, Ph.D.
ISBN 0-442-22649-7

These and other information I
quoted/cited might very help the
two of you in uncovering/discovering
OTHER nefarious chemtrail related
information which may help future
investigators and investigations
(of a CONGRESSIONAL nature,
perhaps!) which the two of you
can surely post to Cliff's website.

- TOCarm

mre808
Registered User
(1/18/02 12:29:47 pm)
Reply Re: Dear mre808 & Stevie - re: 'spider webs'
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Thanks, I'll check it all out. My lady just called and informed me that her chemistry proffessor has agreed to take a look at some samples and use it as a lab experiment for all the students. I haven't spoke to him yet and I'm not sure how well she explained it to him but I'm anxious to see where this leads. I'll keep you updated.

mark sky
Registered User
(1/18/02 8:42:01 pm)
Reply Stevie
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all the webs thats fit to spin
welcome to DreamWeaver www.chemtrailcentral.com/...00972.html

mark sky
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thanxx for the link mark..


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