posted 01-16-2002 09:41 PM            

Maybe the more PC term (God, I hate that PC crap) would be "biologically or environmentally unfriendly contrails".

posted 01-16-2002 11:03 PM            

Personally, I think that we, in this country, are in an extremely dangerous position at this time. Actually, I feel this planet of ours and all who inhabit it are in extreme danger and you, defender, certainly know as well as I why that is.

A great many more people need to wake up to what's going on and wake up soon. The problem is, and the point I really want to make, has to do with basic communication factors and particularly that factor of emotion as it relates to communication.

Every emotion has it's own wavelength characteristic. It has it's own level of reality,level of responsibility, way of handling truth, way of passing on information,ability to persist on a given course or not persist etc. peculiar to that emotion and unless this is taken into consideration during communication there won't really be any communication. For communication to occur there has to be a duplication between the originator and the point of receipt. The individual who is in a state of fear will not/ cannot duplicate the the person who is enthusiastic. The enthusiastic person observes a problem, rubs his/hers hands together and enthusiastically says, "Let's handle it." And proceeds to do just that. The person in fear just wants to get away from it. And the angry person just want to stop it.

Side Note: If you want an index of the general emotional state of a society identify the general emotional tone used in the media. If the media did not aproximate the emotional state of society in their communications there would be no one listening.

We need to wake some folks up but, to me, there is a gradient approach necessary to do so. All that I have awarness of at this point did not occur suddenly. The awarness I posess now has come gradually.

Now,if I can talk to the check out girl down at the grocery store and get her to look up and see how this contrail in the sky is different from other contrails she has seen before then introduce her to the word chemtrail, I consider that progress. At first, it's slow, but like the chemtrail,it spreads out into her sphere of influence and then continues to spread. If I can get only one person a week to have this cognition, six months down the time track there will be an impact of consequence.

With knowledge and awareness comes an obligation to be more responsible (to be more cause). So one objective of mine is to continually make every attempt I can to wake up (even if just a little) whoever,whenever, wherever, and on whatever I can. Another objective of mine is, because I have the awarness I have about what's going on, to continually be more active in using all the resources available to me to thwart TPTB.

This bill we've been discussing here is very important. This new data from 3T3L1, though, is troublesome. Definitely plan to stay tuned on that one.

defender, thank you very much for your originations. I find what you say and your adroit articulation to be most stimulating.

posted 01-16-2002 11:14 PM            

Thanks for that data on the Congressman's move to rewrite and resubmit this bill. Makes me wonder who wrote this in the first place and posssibly unbeknowenst to anyone else, slipped chemtrails into it. I'll certainly stay tuned on this one.

posted 01-17-2002 12:06 AM            

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The individual who is in a state of fear will not/ cannot duplicate the the person who is enthusiastic. The enthusiastic person observes a problem, rubs his/hers hands together and enthusiastically says, "Let's handle it." And proceeds to do just that. The person in fear just wants to get away from it. And the angry person just want to stop it.

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I guess you do have a point here Hoople, much as I'd like not to address it. Maybe I tend to approach these subjects with a sledgehammer/shotgun, whereas you might use a scalpel/velvet glove?

Sometimes I have that Pavlovian response to what I perceive as a threat. Now that I think of it, (or should I say, now that you mention it!)... most topics I refer to can/may elicit fear----> rejection... on the part of visitors/members. Like most people, I'm a product or reflection of my envrironment, so that's bound to turn some people off. I do try to keep to the 'Other Trails' forum, but... nobody's perfect.

I know from experience that spending too much time in observation of the dark side can be hazardous to your health (mental and physical).

"When you look too long into the abyss, the abyss looks into you."

Sometimes I forget that. I know that there are other approaches, (like yours) that are in some ways more valuable than the sledgehammer/shotgun/shock approach I tend to use/weild(?). I think there's room for all of us these days and any/all approaches that lead to positive change are welcome as far as I am concerned.

Delphi (another member) often reminded me about 'smelling the roses' sometimes, instead of looking for the snakes all the time...which, I also know first-hand, can lead to an aura of self-righteousness, and I know that's a turn-off to 'inquiring minds'! ....damn, not another TV/tabloid reference!!.

That's proof of TV conditioning in itself! (in my case anyway). I just used an advertising slogan to express a thought! (I think I'm scaring myself now!)

posted 01-17-2002 11:24 PM            

We do live in a universe of force and one had better be able to weild some force or this unmerciful universe will eat them up. The key to effectively weilding the force is to be able to quickly determine the exact amount of force required then execute that appropriate force to bring about the intended result. This could also be called rationality.

Sometimes you've got to use the wrecking ball and other times it's more appropriate to pull out the tack hammer. Then there's all those other hammers in between and beyond. In any case, it boils down to being able to observe the obvious all the while differentiating between similiarities, differences and identities then acting accordingly.

If I don't know when to or have the willingness to take off my velvet gloves and grab the sledge hammer or vice versa then I have a problem with force.

Now, as for you expressing a thought(s) with a TV ad jingle...I wouldn't worry. Begin to be concerned if you cease to be aware of fact that you're doing it. But if you cease to be aware then you won't know you're doing it so it'll be too late by then. So, on second thought,If you don't become cognizant that you've done it until a day or two later then get concerned.

By the way, it seems that this universe we're associated with is set up on a 180 degree reverse vector, ie., what ever you move towards will move away from you and what ever you withdraw from will move toward you. Basically, what you resist, you get. What you resist you will eventually become, unless of course, you win against what you are resisting. For example: Someone has a resitance to TV ad jingles...Well, the next thing you know you that person is either using them to express themselves or they end up going to work for some ad agency writing the darn things. By the way, to resist something also brings about a persistence in it. The individual who is completely willing to experience anything will usually not have to.

An anecdote for you. There have been occasions when I would be desperately seeking a parking spot near where I needed to be. I would drive here and there and around the blocks and no space would show. My level of resistance toward that circumstance would begin to increase. Finally I would become aware of this volume of resistence and I would force myself to, instead, admire the situation of so damn many cars and no parking space for me. After doing this for only a brief amount of time, suddenly, excellent parking spaces began to open up everywhere around me.

Interesting thing, my first action of response is usually that of resistence which intensifies the situation and causes a persistence. Only when I become aware of my resistance then flow admiration to the situation does the situation better.

I'm taking note now of the amount of resistence that I have for CTs.

posted 01-18-2002 10:42 AM            

Sounds like good advice, but it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks? I'll give it the old college try though! Guess I'm not that old yet.

Anything is possible. I never thought I'd see the concept of chemtrails as weapons (let alone chemtrails) brought up in legislation here in the U.S.! I've only been aware of chemtrails for about 2 years, so maybe that's pretty fast action on the part of Dennis K. in Washinton DC time. (it's like the opposite of dog years time).

It is encouraging, and as far as I can tell has nothing to do with the dark side of TPTB, i.e. another trick... Maybe a sign (like the Internet), that there are good guys still left in government, (more and more all the time?).. the ones courageous & connected(?) enough to look for the Truth in the face of unreported assassinations of Senators Heinz-PA and Tower-TX (to mention two). I'm glad you decided to check in at CC, Hoople!

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BTW, I wondered about your moniker, too.

Mott the Hoople was one of my favorite bands in the late 70's. Very political, anti-(British) establishment at that time.

"Uni-own Jack, is starting to crack... the greed breed's killing off the grass."

(You gotta love lyrics like that?)

posted 01-22-2002 10:18 PM            

My moniker, Hoople, came from this brilliant cabinet/furniture designer/builder guy that I worked for while living down in Fl. Somehow, in his universe, he made a connection between me and Mott the Hoople. So,my birth name vanished whenever around him.

posted 01-23-2002 10:45 AM            

Thermit, I sure haven't seen any coverage of HR2977 on any of the networks.

It may be like senate subcommittee hearings, like the ones in the 70's that concluded that the JFK murder was the result of a conspiracy, but didn't go any farther in determining who was involved! Mainstream media also ignored that, as I recall.

posted 01-25-2002 02:10 PM            

(1) The term “space” means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.

The act was previously written in a rather loose fashion:

quote:

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(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:
…(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--
……(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;
……(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;
……(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or
……(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.
……(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental
health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--
……(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);
……(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or
……(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.
(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--
……(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;
……(ii) chemtrails;
……(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
……(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;
……(v) laser weapons systems;
……(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
……(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.
(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.

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posted 01-29-2002 01:03 PM            

quote:

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A Letter To Representative Kucinich
by Diane Harvey
1-29-2002

Arun S. Ivatury
Legislative Assistant
Rep. Dennis Kucinich
1730 Longworth
Washington, DC 20515
202-226-8135
arun.ivatury@mail.house.gov

Dear Mr. Ivatury and Representative Kucinich:

Those of us interested in this subject understand why the original bill mentioning chemtrails has been reworded to exclude all reference to military operations within the earth's atmosphere. Indeed, we expected no less than the immediate excise of any mention of the frantically suppressed fact the very word "chemtrails" points to so accusingly. But as you are aware of by now, a significant number of us have been spending our own time and money for the past few years in a serious collective effort to pry a straight answer out of officialdom about what we know very well is going on in the sky. All those whose stated job it is to report to the public on such an important ongoing event have chosen instead to give excruciatingly unsightly performances of political duck and cover.

We are, as you also know by now, particularly disgusted by routinely being treated as mentally deficient as the sole reward for being somewhat more observant than the average citizen. If those of us who have been educating ourselves in the pursuit of truth all this time receive one more idiotic and insulting form letter describing the formation of contrails from ice crystals it will be twenty too many. I can assure you that there are thousands of us who know the difference between contrails and chemtrails so drearily well as to be capable of giving lectures on this at the Pentagon. Either the military and government are consistently and outrageously lying to the American public, or they/you are strangely, unacceptably and dangerously ignorant of a pervasive, expensive and glaringly obvious "secret" operation underway in the atmosphere throughout this country and beyond.

Unless the subconscious attitude of your office is that the average citizen is most probably a deranged dolt, unworthy of the slightest consideration from the saner and wiser class of humans called elected officials, then you most definitely owe it to us to take this outpouring of indignation about the reality of chemtrails seriously. Perhaps you have even by now, in the privacy of your own minds, asked yourselves the great unsettling question. "Just how many certifiably demented citizens are statistically likely to be out there, per square inch? Could there in fact be so many deranged Americans as chemtrail activists seem to represent?"

If nothing else, you would do well to face the fact that we do not after all represent, as some might vainly hope, a hitherto unsuspected demographic consisting of a mass of lunatics. We are just what you would logically conclude: increasingly vocal, normal, competent, reasonable and quite rationally incensed citizens who refuse to be placed in the position of voiceless guinea pigs. We demand to know what is being done to our atmosphere and we want to know why it is being done, no matter what the reason for this might be.

We know perfectly well that chemtrails cause illness, and that this fact alone is enough to cause all those involved in these operations to lie until death doth us part. Of course we really must insist on an answer a little sooner than that. We naturally consider this attitude of perpetual denial to be exactly what it is: the most self-serving and cowardly of all possible responses to our rightfully concerned inquiries. And all officials and authorities of any kind in whom the public trust is invested ought to give some thought to the laws of political cause and effect in this matter. The inevitable chain reaction is bound to be drastic when a fairly large subset of the voting public is repeatedly lied to over a period of time, and is perfectly well aware of it, by a numerous and varied body of unimaginative liars at all levels of local, state and national government.

Elected officials, we are given to understand by that currently unheeded instruction manual called The Constitution of the United States, are not voted into office by the public in order to lie to the public on behalf of blatant "secret" military operations. Furthermore, as each day goes by, more and more people are becoming quite aware of what is going on in the skies over their heads. We are not the isolated and relatively easily ignored voices in the wilderness of governmental and military bureaucracy we once were. This government is going to have to deal with the reality of public awareness about chemtrails sooner or later, and we strongly suggest to you that sooner would be better. The longer this lie continues, and the more of us are lied to, the worse the reaction will be when the majority of the public finally finds out. This is not going to be hidden for much longer, as I am sure you must be beginning to realize.

I doubt that the American public will be very forgiving when the true extent and duration of these lies are finally revealed. And you can be sure the truth will emerge, because it always does. Think about it.

Diane Harvey

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posted 01-30-2002 02:45 AM            

ICIS INSTITUTE FOR COOPERATION IN SPACE

PO Box 25040 , Ventura, CA 93001 www.peaceinspace.com

Tel: 805-641-1999 Fax: 805-641-9669 rosin@west.net

World Treaty Banning Space-based Weapons / H.R. 3616, the Space Preservation Act of 2002 1-29-02

SPACE/ABM TREATIES - COMPARISON

Operative Provision
World Treaty Banning Space-based Weapons1
1967 Outer Space Treaty2
1979 Moon Treaty3
1972 ABM Treaty4

Signatories
Applies to multilateral signatories. Operates as norm under International law for all nation states.
Applies to multilateral signatories. (96 States have ratified the Outer Space Treaty as of February 1, 2001)
Applies to multilateral signatories

(9 states have ratified the Moon Treaty as of February 1, 2001)
Applies only to U.S. and Russia.

Permanent ban on space-based tactical and strategic weapons; removal from space of any existing space-based weapons

Section
Yes.

Article I, Section 1(a)
Not applicable
Not applicable
Not applicable

Termination of research and development, testing, manufacturing, production, and deployment of all space-based weapons
Yes.

Article 1,Section 1(b)
Not applicable
Not applicable
Not applicable

Treaty does not prohibit:

Non-weapons related Space exploration;

research, development, testing, manufacturing or deployment

Civil, commercial, or defense activities (including communications, navigation, surveillance, reconnaissance, early warning, or remote sensing) that are not related to space-based weapons or systems.
Yes

Article 1, Section 4
Yes.

Article 1
Yes.

Article IV
Not applicable

SPACE/ABM TREATIES - COMPARISON

Operative Provision
World Treaty Banning Space-based Weapons
1967 Outer Space Treaty
1979 Moon Treaty
1972 ABM Treaty

Prohibits weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in space or on celestial body
Yes.

Article II, Section 1
Yes.

Article IV
Yes.

Article III
Not applicable

Prohibits weapons-related bases or testing on celestial bodies
Yes.

Article II, Section 1
Yes

Article IV
Yes.

Article III
Not applicable

Use of military personnel for non-weapons activities is permitted.
Yes.

Article II, Section 2
Yes.

Article IV
Yes.

Article III
Not applicable

ENFORCEMENT

Establishes, and deploys a United Nations outer space peacekeeping agency, whose mission is to monitor outer space and enforce the permanent ban of space-based weapons under this Treaty.
Yes.

Article IV
Not applicable
Not applicable
Not applicable

The 1967 Outer Space Treaty does NOT ban all space-based weapons. It bans weapons of mass destruction in space. Moreover, that treaty has NO enforcement mechanism. Also, the Moon Treaty and the Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty do not ban space-based weapons.

The World Treaty Banning Space-based Weapons and U.S. legislation incorporate compatible language and purpose. The signing of the World Treaty will help put pressure on the U.S. Congress and President to pass H.R. 3616 and forthcoming Senate legislation into law that will ban space-based weapons in 2002. Only the U.S. has initiated the aggressive move to weaponize space and to break the ABM Treaty, as announced by the US President that he will do in June, 2002. .

Under the World Treaty Banning Space-based Weapons, “Each State Party to this Treaty shall implement a ban on space-based weapons, implement a ban on the use of weapons to destroy or damage objects in space, and immediately order the permanent termination of research and testing, manufacturing, production, and deployment of all space-based weapons of such State Party.” Similarly, H.R. 3616, the Space Preservation Act of 2002, introduced by Congressman Dennis Kucinich and a forthcoming Senator “To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by prohibiting the basing of weapons in space and the use of weapons to destroy or damage objects in space that are in orbit, and for other purposes” will also “implement a ban on space-based weapons of the United States and the use of weapons of the United States to destroy or damage objects in space that are in orbit and immediately order the termination of research and development, testing, manufacturing, production and deployment of all space-based weapons of the United States.” The U.S. legislation will lead the U.S. President to sign the World Treaty, which will ban all space-based weapons…the ultimate goal that is achievable in 2002.

The World Treaty states, “Each State Party to this Treaty agrees to the establishment, funding, equipping, and deploying an outer space peacekeeping agency, whose mission it is to monitor outer space and enforce the permanent ban of space-based weapons under this Treaty.” In a step towards the establishment of the World Treaty, H.R. 3616 requires “The President shall direct the United States representatives to the United Nations and other international organizations to immediately work toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing an international treaty banning space-based weapons.” Both the World Treaty and the U.S. legislation lead to the establishment of a world space peacekeeping agency.

Both the World Treaty and the U.S. legislation do not prohibit the use of funds for activities including “space exploration, space research and development, testing, manufacturing or deployment that is not related to space-based weapons or systems, or civil, commercial or defense activities (including communications, navigation, surveillance, reconnaissance, early warning, or remote sensing) that are not related to space-based weapons or systems.”

The World Treaty explains that “Each State Party to this Treaty undertakes not to base in space any object carrying nuclear weapons or any other kinds of weapons of mass destruction, install such space-based objects or weapons on celestial bodies, or station such weapons in outer space in any other manner. The moon, the planets, and other celestial bodies shall be used by all State Parties to this Treaty exclusively for non-weapons, peaceful purposes.

The establishment of weapons-related military bases, installations and fortifications, the testing of any type of weapons and the conduct of military maneuvers on celestial bodies or space-based objects shall be forbidden.” The World Treaty states, “The use of military personnel for scientific research or for any other non-space weapons, peaceful purposes shall not be prohibited. The use of any equipment or facility necessary for peaceful exploration or habitation of the moon, the planets or other celestial bodies, or objects in space shall also not be prohibited.” Space presents the time and place in which the military role changes. There is a non-space-based weapons role for the military to play in space that can provide important service benefits to earth. Since the military is not going to disappear, and has great skills and intelligence, it is time to apply the military in service in the context of a new space paradigm that this World Treaty and U.S. legislation allow the human species to enter together. This is where the world peoples comes together.

In both the World Treaty and the U.S. legislation, the term “space” includes “all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth” and “includes any celestial body in such space.” “The terms ‘space-based weapon’ and ‘space-based system’ means a device capable of damaging or destroying an object or person (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by – firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object or person, detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object or person, directing a source or energy against that object or person, or any other undeveloped means.”

The ABM Treaty was an agreement between only the US and USSR. This is the time for the WORLD Treaty to replace the ABM Treaty that the U.S. President has committed to breaking on June 13, 2002. The U.S. could then deploy a space-based weapon system under the guise of calling it “MERELY testing.” Time is of the essence. With this sense of urgency, World Citizens are coming together in solidarity, rising above their different perspectives, to work together to achieve one common goal: to pass the U.S. legislation and the compatible World Treaty into U.S. national and world law that will BAN SPACE-BASED WEAPONS IN 2002. www.peaceinspace.com

1 World Treaty Banning Space-based Weapons -- www.peaceinspace.com

2 Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space,including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies. www.oosa.unvienna.org/SpaceLaw/outerspt.htm

3 Agreement Governing the Activities of States on the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies.
www.oosa.unvienna.org/SpaceLaw/moon.htm

4 Treaty Between The United States Of America And The Union Of Soviet Socialist Republics On The Limitation Of Anti-Ballistic Missile Systems. www.fas.org/nuke/control/abmt/text/abm2.htm

posted 01-30-2002 02:53 AM            

From: "ICIS - institute for cooperation in space
To: Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:39:01 -0800

Subject: UN General Assembly Votes - ban on space-based weapons

Below, thanks to the staff members at the UN General
Assembly in New York and at the UN Outer Space Committee in
Vienna Austria, are the vote tallies on the two most recent UN
Resolutions on Preventing an Arms Race in Space.

NOTE - There are many no-shows at UN votes. The tallies below
show who showed up for the vote on the Resolutions to prevent an
arms race in space. They PROVE that that nearly ALL of the UN
member nations participating in these General Assembly votes
support a ban on space-based weapons. NONE voted against the
resolutions. Only 3 or 4 nations abstain from voting.

On November 29, 2001, in a UN General Assembly vote
unanimously approved the basis for world treaty establishing a
permanent ban on space-based weapons, in Resolution 56/535,
adopted by a 156-0 vote, with 4 abstentions. Significantly, the
United States and Israel were among the four nations abstaining
(Georgia and Micronesia were the other two abstaining nations).
On November 20, 2000, the United Nations and Israel similarly
abstained from voting on a General Assembly resolution to prevent
an arms race in space (Resolution 55/32), where the final adopting
vote was 163-0.

A/RES/56/535 29 NOV. 2001 VOTE: YES - 156 NO - 0
ABSTAIN - 4 (USA; Israel; Georgia; Micronesia)

A/RES/55/32 55/32 20 NOV. 2000 VOTE: 163 YES NO - 0
ABSTAIN - 3 (USA; Israel; Micronesia)

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ICIS - Institute for Cooperation in Space http://www.peaceinspace.com

I think these votes tell the story....

posted 01-30-2002 09:32 AM            

"A slamDunk for Chemtrail Activists!
No hard feelings Chip?? Dunk??

It looks like Dennis the Menace emerged from this with egg on his face. In the eyes of his colleagues in the House -- and many of the Capitol observers -- it appears that someone "put something over" on Kucinich by inserting wording he wasn't even aware of; or else he changed his mind as to the efficacy of his bill.

No hard feelings, defender?

posted 01-30-2002 12:33 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by desert flower:

What people picking apart Bills HR2927 and HR3616 don't seem to understand, is that although the latter has been changed in scope---it is still way ahead of "nothing" which is what we had before, not to mention that HR2927 brought chemtrails and mind control to the attention of thousands of people who had never heard of them before, as well as revitalizing the chemtrail community. Wouldn't it be far more beneficial to thank Congressman Kucinich, stand behind him, give Bill HR3616 positve energy---and demand it's passage?

As we know, chemtrails are only one step towards this agenda. Chemtrails are not likely to stop by our trying to find fault with this Bill---in fact quite the opposite.

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No hard feelings to have Dunk!

I agree with desert flower. TPTB can't fool everyone forever. DF does have the right attitude here, whereas I have tended to be fatalistic, as in my questioning of whether or not Dennis K. might be assassinated.

Even if Dennis K. were part of a plan to discredit(?) the chemtrail issue, which, BTW, I don't believe he is... it wouldn't change the fact that chemtrails have received at least some of the attention they deserve.

Hey, Senator John Glenn is also from Ohio!! TPTB also tried to kill his attempts to end Non-consensual Human Experimentation in the U.S. when he introduced that bill, but he's still alive too, (even revealing the existence of ET's without government approval?)! What is it with Ohio? We've got some real American heroes to support here! Let's not let'em down!?

We (or should I say "I"), tend to think that just because the mainstream media ignores chemtrails, assassinations, non-consensual human experimentation and countless other conspiracies that all hope is lost. In fact, this doesn't mean that powerful forces aren't at work to expose them and bring them to justice! The bad guys rely on apathy, among other things, to keep us in the dark.

Dennis K. and John Glen are only the tip of the iceberg. The Powers That Suck are crumbling before our very eyes thanks to people like this!

posted 01-30-2002 12:52 PM            

Love and Peace
Desert Flower

PS Let's keep in mind that we are in the midst of Mercury Retro.

The following is from ICIS website:

ICIS institute for cooperation in space

Dr. Carol Rosin, ICIS President, PO Box 25040, Ventura, CA 93001

Tel: 805-641-1999 Fax: 805-641-9669 POSITION PAPER 1-27-02 DRAFT 1

NEW SPACE PARADIGM: U.S. HOUSE AND SENATE LEGISLATION and
WORLD TREATY BANNING SPACE-BASED WEAPONS to be SIGNED in 2002

The purpose of H.R. 3616, the Space Preservation Act or 2002, introduced by Congressman Dennis Kucinich, a forthcoming Senate Bill, and of the compatible World Treaty Banning Space-based Weapons is “To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space." The U.S. legislation requires the U.S. President “to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.” The WORLD treaty will replace the ABM Treaty that President Bush announced the U.S. will unilaterally break in June. This legislation and World Treaty are focused on achieving a ban on space-based weapons in 2002, at the one moment in history when this can be accomplished BEFORE weapons are placed in space… and on creating a world cooperative space program that will replace the space-based weapons program and the war industry and mindset. This new national and world law will bring humanity into a new Space Age paradigm of real solutions to urgent human (health, education, poverty and suffering…war and terrorism) and environmental (energy, global warming, pollution…) problems, stimulate a new kind of space economy that will no longer be based on fear and war, and will build a security system based on the applications of space technology to enhance communication and earth observation, making it possible to reduce and eliminate dangerous technologies on earth while transforming the war industry and mindset into a space industry that recognizes who we are in these bodies and in the universe. There will be peace on earth through peace in our sacred space. People and organizations across the U.S. and worldwide with different perspectives are rising above them in solidarity to ban space-based weapons.

The U.S. legislation and the World Treaty Banning Space-based Weapons provide a new framework for a space stimulus plan in which humans can build a sustainable national and world economy and a security system that is based on continuing to build world cooperative and inexorably linked civil, commercial and military space development and exploration programs instead of space-based weapons programs. The legislation and World Treaty establish a permanent ban on space-based weapons. The World Treaty leads to the creation of a space peacekeeping agency that will verify and enforce the ban. The World Treaty incorporates wording that is compatible with the U.S. legislation and that is in adopted UN space/peace treaties and from international treaty proposals. The World Treaty is based on world law related to the peaceful uses of outer space including in the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, on universal laws and principals, and on the most recent U.N. General Assembly resolutions on preventing an arms race in space. The passing of this legislation and World Treaty into law in 2002 is a vital step needed to cap the arms race. This will lead to the reduction and elimination of ground-based weapons that can damage or destroy objects or people in space, and that will lead to the reduction and eventual elimination of dangerous weapons and technologies on earth.

A U.S. national and a world movement is rapidly networking to build support for the U.S. legislation and the World Treaty that will ban on space-based weapons. The intention is to pass this ban into national and world law this year. Further testing of missile defense space-based weapons will be halted, BEFORE President Bush breaks the ABM Treaty, and BEFORE an unstoppable momentum of vested interests can deploy them under the guise of it being “MERELY testing,” On December 13, 2001, Bush announced the U.S. will unilaterally abrogate the ABM Treaty in June, thus accelerating the space-based weapons program amid an atmosphere of fear and terrorism, and the movement to prevent it. The weaponization of space would increase global instability and the probability of global warfare with weapons of mass destruction including nuclear weapons, or biological, chemical, or other weapons, along with perpetuating more suffering, poverty, environmental damage and deaths of more and more species including humans. Space-based weapons are dangerous, destabilizing, too costly ($148 billion so far), and would not protect anyone or anything from terrorists. This legislation and treaty will cap the arms race in 2002, once and forever, and will allow space R&D and exploration programs to continue with a non-space-based weapons mandate and with commitment to direct the Space Age technology, products and services to solving problems on earth,

We can now feasibly transform/convert the space-based weapons R&D program and war industry into a world cooperative civil, commercial and military space R&D program and industry without space-based weapons. This is the new space paradigm…a new way of thinking, This will unleash minds to create safe and clean alternative Space Age technologies, products, and services that will stimulate the economy more than will a space-based weapons industry, including more jobs and training programs that can be applied directly to solving urgent humanitarian problems (eg. healthcare, education, poverty, hunger, etc.) and environmental problems (eg. the energy crisis, global warming, pollution, etc.). This world cooperative space R&D and exploration program will put into place technology and information services that can provide us with a strong national and global security system that is based on modernizing ground forces, which includes enhancing world cooperative communication, information sharing, and alternative technology applications and sharing. The WORLD Treaty halts worldwide R&D, testing, production, manufacturing and deployment of ALL space-based weapons as does the U.S. legislation. A multitude of vital benefits and opportunities that will be made available to everyone inclusively will bring the world, including former adversaries, together.

While there have been decades of efforts to stop it, and decades of efforts to build it, the largest R&D program in history now exists, and it is mandated to weaponize that place above all our heads. Removing that mandate by signing into U.S. national and world law the ban on space-based weapons will not stop ground-based weapons systems or basic R&D programs, but it will stop the R&D, testing, production, manufacturing and deployment intended for space-based weaponry. This will lead to the reduction and eventual elimination of dangerous and costly ground-based systems and to their replacement and alternatives. This ban will actually free minds in the military industrial/business intelligence lab university complex so that they can create technologies, products and services that we need the Space Age in which we live. This ban will cause “second order change” to occur that will allow us to enter into a new space paradigm in which we can live in peace and harmony on earth and in space. With intention and commitment, the space-based weapons industry will now be transformed into a world cooperative military, civil and commercial space industry without weapons in space. The war and weapons economy will be transformed into a Space Age economy. Veils of secrecy will begin to be lifted. Resources including alternative energy and clean propulsion systems, pollution free technologies, and means of caring for all life on earth will be supported and will emerge.

ICIS educates individuals, groups, decision makers and the collective consciousness about the legislation and World Treaty that will remove of the mandate to weaponize space and outlaw space-based weapons, about the resulting benefits of continuing and expanding already on-going world cooperative military, civil and commercial space R&D, and about the vision of what IS and what CAN BE in space and how that will benefit all on earth. For example, the military role changes in space as they can help pave the way into space and get the technology and information services applied directly to solving earthbound problems. The militaries of the world depend now on surveillance, reconnaissance, navigation and communication satellites, radar and sensors for enhancing their intelligence and because they use them as “force multipliers in war and defensive situations. The militaries can also use the same technologies for dual uses, the other use being to help humans and other animals and our environment, for example. When the space-based weapons momentum is cancelled, the technologies will emerge that we want, clean and safe, and applicable to solve problems not create them. And the militaries can continue to work on their non-space based weapon systems with corporations and businesses in the new space paradigm. The contracts allotted will not be space-based weapons based. This is a first step to changing the way the minds think in those arenas. The choice is ours. We can now replace blueprints for space battle stations and weapons yet to be imagined. This is only a once-in-a-lifetime choice: Weaponization or Cooperation in Space. We can have space-based battle-stations and weapons pointed down all our throats that are being designed to control the earth and space from space, or we can have space craft, space-based habitats, hospitals, schools and universities, laboratories and industries, hotels and resorts, farms, elevators, and places in space where future generations can live, work and explore. Imagine how much we would learn about healing techniques from designing a space-based hospital in zero gravity. Imagine what it would be like to visit a space-based hotel and resort. Space tourism has begun. Imagine the new technologies that will be released that are of a non-polluting nature when the collective consciousness awakens to the available alternatives. As humans evolve into space with a new collective consciousness and intention, we will learn more about ourselves in these bodies and about who we are in the universes.

It is OUR responsibility, our RESPONSIBILITY, to educate about the new Space Age paradigm and this new way of thinking, about the legislation and the compatible World Treaty, to get it passed into law while we still can, to make sure that space technology and services get applied to solving urgent humanitarian and environmental problems, and to preserve our sacred space for the children.

The legislation H,.R, 3616 has been introduced, and the Senate version will soon follow. The compatible sister companion World Treaty Banning Space-based Weapons will soon be officially introduced and signed by nation-state leaders. The ICIS 90 Day Plan of Action to educate people and decision makers about the rapidly growing support for this ban will be announced in February. The globally televised World Interactive Treaty Signing (WITS) event is scheduled to take place in May.

Timing is of the essence. We have only a few months before the ABM Treaty is going to be abrogated, in June. People are calling, faxing congress members and world leaders (free via the www.peaceinspace.com website), and are writing and calling members of the US congress and administration, and nation-state/world leaders, to request their support and signatures. Leaders of Canada, Russia, and China have publicly stated they are ready to ban space-based weapons. People are contacting the leaders to request they introduce and sign the World Treaty and invite all other leaders to do the same. The ICIS FAQ, Frequently Asked Questions (see website), has continually updated sample letters and addresses.

Keeping weapons out of space is one of the most important and possibly the most important contribution our generation can make for our suffering life forms and environment on our planet, and for the children. Peace on earth begins in space. Space holds the key to peace on earth.