posted 01-15-2002 01:17 PM            

I am pretty new to this site, and I don't mean to debunk or to try and discredit any individual in any specific form or fashion. I will try any voice my opinions about material found on this site, other internet sites pertaining to theories and thoughts related to information found on this site, and any other information that could "possibly" be tied to this site.

What I know is this. I believe in things that most other people don't. A friend of mine recently said something to me that I feel I will remember forever. He said, "I think I learned more critical thinking from our late night talks than I did in my 4 years at college." That comment made me feel extremely good. Anyways, how crazy and bizarre do my theories and thoughts go.

I believe that we live in a world run by a few select people. We are merely "eaters", "consumers", and "workers" that do the work for the elite few and are considered "disposable". We have been programmed from birth (most of us that is) and we don't know any other way of life but what is given to us by an elite group of people -- hmmm, media, major corps, government? This elite group then bombs the hell out of people that don't even have telephones, televisions, or for God's sake - bathrooms. People that have no manner of harming our way of life suffer because of our own governments mistakes, problems, and interests. Moving on, I don't think Lee Harvey killed Kennedy, and I personally think there is a lot more to 9-11 that meets the eye. I fear for the world in 10-20 years. There is going to be a major battle for not oil, but water. And the intelligence our government has at its fingertips is extensive. I believe that "they" do know something we don't and the scope and magnitude of the things happening in the world is beyond any single individual's reach, but as a collective we can put the pieces together and uncloak the conspiracies. That is why I suggested a few things in my intial post under "can't believe my eyes!". Such as being able to manipulate the weather (chemtrails) to move large amounts of precipitation (lake superior). War on water, not oil. Look at snow in Minnesota (nothing), then look at snow in Buffalo (five/six feet). Anywho...

It is not my intent to try and debunk any idea as a whole, only to participate in the idea of "chemtrails, cover-ups, weather changes, ... et cetera". I hope that I have not offended anyone, and if this site would prefer my opinions be raised elsewhere because some photos posted here are being represented wrong, so be it. But I am not a debunker, I just think very critically.

Oh, by the way, I do believe that jet engines do layer our skies with certain chemicals in small amounts on a grand scale. I believe that the damage done to the ozone layer is a lot more extensive than we are told and that the cause is from our adventures into and out of space. Perhaps even airliners. I have a ton of ideas and thoughts, but I don't mean to target this site or any individual.

northern mn man

And on one fall day four years ago, I witnessed a large aircraft of military origin flying in the superior national forest. It was not a aircraft I have ever seen up here before, but it was definately military and only f-16's are common here, one or two transports come in and out once in a while to practice touch and go's, but this was different. It was flying at about 1000 to 2000 feet and dropping "silver streaks" into the area. About the war on water... We here in MN/Canada sit on the world's supply. Fun times ahead. Lets reveal the plans.

posted 01-15-2002 01:32 PM            

Thanks for your ideas on correct classification of the photos. There are probably some misclassifications as you said, and we will endeavor to fix that. A more detailed response is available in the "eyes" thread, which you were posting in.

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. It was flying at about 1000 to 2000 feet and dropping "silver streaks" into the area.

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There wouldn't happen to be a fire in the forest, would there?

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Oh, by the way, I do believe that jet engines do layer our skies with certain chemicals in small amounts on a grand scale.

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This seems to be referring to the normal combustion byproducts of normal traffic. Is this correct?

posted 01-15-2002 01:39 PM            

There were no forest fires. One silver streak was so close to my location that I jumped on my ATV and headed into the woods. I don't know what it was, however on a site I will link there is the reference to perhaps soviet craft overflying the us? I don't know the exacts of treatys and such, but if I was to discribe the aircraft, it was a silver/beige. Not a green or brown like I routinely see in duluth for touch and go's. Duluth has a very long runway at the international airport. Northwest flys 747s in routinely for touch and go practice. They do it all day long... Moving on, I don't know the exacts of the aircraft other than it was military of some sort.

On the propulsion. I believe there are additives in fuels causing either intentionally (my belief) or unintentionally damage/changes to the atmosphere and ecosystem. My reference was in the form of the exhaust by product. I came across a site, sorry I can not remember if it was here or there, that said metallic particals (sp? - sorry eyes burning) are put into fuels. I really gotta run.

posted 01-15-2002 10:37 PM            

Just came in to see the your post and very much enjoyed the read. From what you said, I can tell that we'll have much to discuss as time marches on.

I agree that water is the new prize worthy of war and, unfortunately, I believe that it's soon to come.

My wife is from Michigan and some of her family are still there - way up there toward the top. Apparently Lake Mich is also dropping considerably in water level. My wife's brother has talked about this for awhile and then this summer we met a lady working for the Chamber of Comm in Mt. View, Ar who's house in MI was right on the lake when they built it. Now, she said, the shoreline is a good quarter of a mile away. From my wife's brother, we've heard that tankers have been steadily filling up with Lake MI's water and hauling it to Saudia Arabia. However, I can't validate this report.

Back in late winter of 97' while living in Largo, Fl (west coast - Tmapa Bay area)my wife and I took our dog out for his nightly walk. It was a warm clear night with the usual volume of single engine planes buzzing around. I don't know why we did, but we both happened to look up in the same direction in time to see an extremely bewildering sight overhead. We saw what appeared to be a huge pane of glass (you could see through it but the view was quite distorted) move very rapidly, with absolutely no sound, from North to South. It disappeared from our view as suddenly as it had appeared. Afterwards, we din't even know what to say to one another. We were both too busy asking ourselves if we just saw what we thought we saw. It was a very weird experience that has left us both with an unaswered question since. Now, what the heck does this story have to do with anything? Well, nothing that I know of but I thought I tell you anyway.

I'll be talking to you again NMN.

posted 01-16-2002 12:57 AM            

The jet fuel may be producing some of the trails, but I do believe there is intentional spraying also. I have been watching all this for almost now 4 years and our sun has changed too and is hotter and stranger. I am out in the garden a lot and I watch what is happening to the plants and birds. Why are we having robins in January and the trees are almost ready to blossom. I have never had my cymbidiums bloom in January, usually it is near Easter.

There is more to 9/11 than we will ever know just as with JFK. We are here to work, pay taxes, support the government. We are suppose to be good citizens and be patriotic to our country. There have been other planes that have gone down for no reason either and people have been lost there too. For most people all this is overwhelming and for me sometimes too. I just take some time off, but do come back and keep reading and thinking about people's ideas.

posted 01-29-2002 05:59 AM            

When you get a chance take a look at this article: www.enterprisemission.com/warming.htm
I would like to hear your thoughts regarding internal global warming versus surface.